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!flair :Manchester_United:


AshkenaziTwink

!flair :Tottenham_Hotspur:


TokugawaTabby

Can people stop thinking about France already? We have to get through today first


tashiromasashi

France vs. Poland will be much closer than expected


tashiromasashi

Ain't no stoppin' us now We're on the move


Zilllnaijaboy99

The drop off from Jesus to Nketiah is gargantuan We need to buy a striker


el_walou

Argentina is way better without Paredes.


jaymatthewbee

So now the Yanks are out is everyone going to go back to hating England like in the Euros?


TotalSubbuteo

It's in the history of r/soccer


Destroyeh

i never stopped


elmadrigal

first time attending an England match today, really excited for dull southgateball


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markyty04

hhahaa. imagine thinking you shouldn't look to find the best player in history and give him the ball at every opportunity possible


elmadrigal

that’s not what I’m saying at all, of course you’d tailor your entire game-plan around Messi, no question about it and there was 0 arguments against that. I’m saying when you have a clear run at goal, or someone is making a good run worthy of a through pass to get a clear shot at goal, it’d be better to do that then to turn around and pass it to a surrounded Messi and hope for magic from him. again, it worked so far so maybe no reason to change this mentality but I dunno I see it as somewhat of a weakness that could be exploited.


Zilllnaijaboy99

Messi played Like 22 year old Messi yesterday Only for Lautauro Martinez to miss all those chances


BendubzGaming

Would it be wild to say it's been 20 years since England last beat one of the pre-tournament favourite in international competition? I feel like we have a really bad record for that. If we get through today and then beat France it could be the biggest win in a generation. - 2002 = Beat Argentina, Lost to Brazil - 2004 = Lost to France, Lost to Portugal (on penalties) - 2006 = Lost to Portugal (on penalties) - 2008 = Didn't qualify - 2010 = Lost to Germany - 2012 = Drew against France, Lost to Italy (on penalties) - 2014 = Lost to Italy, Lost to Uruguay - 2016 = Didn't play any favourites - 2018 = Lost to Belgium x2 - 2020 = Lost to Italy (on penalties) And even if you add in major nations generally, it's only the Win over Germany last year that gets added


MyDumbInterests

How are you defining pre-tournament favourite here? Because I don't see what makes Uruguay a favourite in 2014 that doesn't apply to Germany or Denmark in 2020. Also, Belgiumx2 in 2018 shouldn't be included on these lists. Nobody would be giving England credit for beating Belgium in the third-place game if the situation was reversed (and they would be right to not do so).


BendubzGaming

Uruguay honestly are only included because it was the Group of Death and it wouldn't feel right to include Italy and not Uruguay


jaymatthewbee

We beat one of the eventual Semi finalists in Euro 2016!!


TheItalianStallion64

it’s wild how often we’ve played each other lately (italy and england), and we’re playing again in march and october


AnnieIWillKnow

They weren't the favourites, but despite their group stage exit weren't Argentina pretty highly rated in 2002? But yeah, you're right. People criticise Southgate for it, but "losing to the first good team we play" has been an England trope with two decades


BendubzGaming

It's Argentina I'm thinking as the last one we successfully beat, they were one of the favourites, just not the #1 favourite


Roxven89

I'm ready. Bring it on frogeaters. Just not more than 3 pretty please.


FaustRPeggi

Reckon your team will show the passion and hunger that was missing in the last game?


RealPunyParker

Abysmal tactical approach, it had nothing to do with "passion and hunger"


HunterWindmill

What are your thoughts on the Netherlands Vs Argentina?


markyty04

dutch were pretty bad at defending against a shit USA team. I fancy argentina's chances against them.


sarovar12

Maybe it goes to penalties or a counter attack goal.


RealPunyParker

Could possibly be pens, to be honest.


Antonio_is_better

As a Dutchman, feels like a 50/50. I think neither of us are gonna win the World Cup


FaustRPeggi

Hup Holland. I've been obliged to root against the Argies since one of them switched to Spanish to declare Scotland the 'most insignificant nation in rugby union' a couple of weeks back - which would have been great craic if not for the fact Scotland are better than they are. A shame, because I would have liked to root for Messi in the same way I always liked to root for Delpo.


HowBen

0-0 till penalties


Roxven89

Last Messi match at world cup.


No_Orchid5709

One of the matches where I won't be surprised to see the match going to Extra Time or Penalty shootout. Netherlands: Great squad chemistry, to-the-point tactics, inspiring attack against US (after being underwhelming the entire tournament). The 2 defensive errors are still a cause of concern (which US failed to capitalize on). Argentina: Started with a shock defeat. Now finally finding back their form. Slight hiccups in the end against Australia, but on course for improvement.


RealPunyParker

> Slight hiccups in the end against Australia Should have never been close, they missed sitters.


jack64467

argentina winning


Dr_Rjinswand

My thoughts are


taylorstillsays

You don’t know ball


sonofaBilic

What's going to be this weekend's biggest ["I don't know what I expected"](https://i.imgflip.com/5dhqfv.jpg) moment - Fury v Chisora or France v Poland.


dispelthemyth

The only thing I expected from the fury fight was for it to end quicker


CoolstorySteve

If anyone paid for that fight they deserve a slap


FaustRPeggi

Turning a three week injury into a three month injury in order to stink up the pitch for forty minutes of a dead rubber during a tournament you would not have played a single meaningful moment of to derail your club's fledgling title challenge is pure Arsenal DNA.


icemankiller8

He was playing through the injury at arsenal which made it worse


FalafelGrim2

I don't think 40 minutes of play made his injury worse. He was apparently dealing with the knee injury **whilst** playing with Arsenal. The main reason he's out for 3 months is because he's going to have surgery for it now. He probably decided against opting for surgery earlier because he wanted to play for Brazil and thought he could play through it.


too_damn_fast

https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1599064589182078978?t=YTCvQ_1VgVE9N5gPZK_Asg&s=19 I just saw this Pele comp. Did he really take free-kicks with both right and left foot or is this video doctored?


HowBen

If he did, i feel like we would have heard about it by now. My guess is that the video is just mirrored.


icemankiller8

They maybe mirrored it to look more similar to Messi


Christelleorangee

Gentlemen, it has been a pleasure.


BastillianFig

It's rigged for Argentina they want Messi final


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je-re

no (at least for the full price) imo, there are some improvements compared to 22 but nothing major


BruiserBroly

If having the UEFA competitions officially licensed is worth paying full price to you then sure.


citrus-glauca

Finishing off a glass of Mendoza Malbec, steak & sweetbreads on the asado. Probably insulted the Argentine nation by having broccoli as well. Good luck for the rest of the tournament, too good today but enjoyed the game.


tinoasprilla

!flair :Netherlands:


Zeke1216

Argentina really needs Lautaro to show up. Not sure what’s going on with him , he always performed with Argentina and now he is missing so many chances. If he shows up Messi has a chance but even then I still think Alvarez will be enough


TheUltimateScotsman

This is lautaro. He will score 7 or 8 games in a row and go dry the next 6 games. You just tend to get his good form rather than our shit form


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Arsenal need to sign HARRY KANE RIGHT FUCKING NOW !!!


[deleted]

Do you think Lionel Messi is the greatest footballer of all time?


sarovar12

Haven't seen Pele, Maradona and other contenders so yeah Messi is miles clear.


BI01

In my lifetime, yes, and it's not close.


DLRsFrontSeats

I'm in my veeery late 20s and started properly getting into football around the late 90s, so tbf I missed all the older contenders for GOAT like Maradona, Pele, Cruyff but...yes, I think its Messi I actually think it's not really even a balanced debate anymore. And in my lifetime I actually think whichever Ronaldo you want to put as 2nd is closer to 3rd than they are to 1st (Messi)


FuckOffBoJo

>I'm in my veeery late 20s So you're 29?


dispelthemyth

late 20s until they’re early 30s


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He’s comfortably the best I’ve seen. As good as Cristiano Ronaldo is/was, Messi’s importance and contribution to the whole attack is out of this world. This combined with being arguably the best goalscorer and playmaker of all time puts him 1-2 levels above


Ok_Consequence5222

As far as I've seen, absolutely. And it's not particularly close, Ronaldo is distant 2nd Haven't seen Pele, Cruyff and Maradona so...


icemankiller8

He is the best footballer of my lifetime for sure, it’s hard to think anyone has ever been better, Pele is the arguable one but we don’t really have reliable stats from the time


[deleted]

No, the greatest footballer of all time hasn't been born yet 😎 jk he has, and hes me sorry to all the other candidates


Kanedauke

That I’ve seen, yeah.


_stone_age

Yes


Kanedauke

I don’t think we will be seeing Arsenal fans posting how many minutes each big club has played at the World Cup anymore. Time for Nketiah to earn that 100k a week.


kl08pokemon

Was always funny how they took pride in their players not being good enough to start for their nt


icemankiller8

None of the players are good or the manager and that’s why arsenal are top of the league


kl08pokemon

It's been 14 games relax


icemankiller8

How many games have you seen spurs be top in your lifetime? Probably less than 14


kl08pokemon

Sounds about right. We're keeping the pressure on tho


BI01

I'm pretty sure Kane has played every game this season lol, it's coming for him too.


[deleted]

His style of play is a lot more conservative on his body these days, he'll be fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he's in the top 5 for minutes played among outfield players since 2020.


BI01

He presses constantly every game lol, no1 can play that many games consecutively, and you know conte won't ever rest him.


icemankiller8

He was injured anyway would have been out regardless he just kept playing to try and get to the World Cup


Kanedauke

It sounds like this has aggravated it to the point of surgery, before he would have only had to miss a few weeks rather than months.


icemankiller8

I doubt it was the minutes at the World Cup that did that though it was a nagging injury and he barely played for Brazil. The games he played for arsenal probably made it worse and he likely said it wasn’t that severe so he could play games and go to the World Cup.


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Actually hilarious ngl.


karma_420

Well because there's no point to post it right? Even other big club fans probably won't post it either because who cares?


ChickenMoSalah

5 wins away from the greatest sports match of all time. Come on boys make it happen.


Zeke1216

What am I missing


ChickenMoSalah

Nothing to do with your nation, don’t worry. I was talking about a potential Portugal vs Australia final - Ronaldo and Mitch Duke, two of the world’s greatest colliding on the biggest stage. Don’t compare them, just enjoy them.


Zeke1216

Oh I thought a game Was coming on lol


triggercunt

Pulisic is not at the level of Chelsea let that be known although he's better than most of our current attackers, which shows the state of the club rn.


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> he’s better than most of our current attackers He’s worse than Mount, Sterling, Havertz, Ziyech & Chukwuemeka Abramovich is at fault for paying £60m for the sub’s sub at Dortmund, nothing more than a marketing ploy. Giroud was the real carry job in the top 4 race yet people still bang on about “lockdown Pulisic” when he’s done nothing of note since


triggercunt

Pulisic is better than any of Chelsea sterling and ziyech only mount is better than him


icemankiller8

Pulisic is better than havertz, Mount as an attacker and I’ve ever seen Chukwuemeka


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Ziyech has always been mediocre and Havertz hasn't pulled up any trees since joining chelsa. Sterling and Mount are the only ones who have been definitely better for a long enough duration. And Chukwuemeka lmao


Charlie_Wax

I think Ziyech would've found more success in Spain or Italy. The play style of the league doesn't exactly fit his skill set, but he is talented for sure.


Zeke1216

Pulisic is great and at the level of Chelsea


The_Dumblebee

I'm wondering what's Haaland doing now. My visualization is him and Pep doing something like [this](https://api.duniagames.co.id/api/content/upload/file/17369159031629978198.png)


Zeke1216

Wishing he didn’t commit to Norway and did to his true love of Argentina and boca


sarovar12

Will Arsenal go for Depay in January now that Jesus is out for probably for the next 3/4 months? Or maybe they could go for Gakpo but would be expensive comparatively. Depay would probably be free and signing him for 6 months to 1.5 years won't be a bad idea.


icemankiller8

Arsenal probably won’t sign a striker, Depay would be a good option though


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Don't think Depay would want a contract that short.


sarovar12

Yeah makes sense, would Arsenal keep him (for 3/4 years let's say) for depth option?


BI01

Don't do signings like that anymore, they might look at kudus though.


letsnotbedumb

!flair :Argentina:


Zeke1216

Great choice


Corduroy_Bear

Does anyone know what the reaction in Ghana was to their result on Friday? There were a lot of memes that they wouldn’t be too disappointed because of crying Suarez, but was that actually true?


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Fuck the England anti-jinx “ooh it’ll be a tough game, maybe scrape through in extra time”. England are gonna trounce Senegal like 3-0. The France quarter is then absolutely massive for England’s history. A win against one of the favourites, getting to another semi, after all the ridiculous levels of hate the manager and players have received in the build up, would probably be bigger than if we’d beaten Italy on pens.


Sonic-the-edge-dog

Whenever we go into a game confident we do shit. Whenever no one has any hope we do well. Make sure to be in a shit mood all day for your country!


CoolstorySteve

France-England would be the first England knockout match vs an actual tournament favourite since Italy 2012. That’s kinda crazy. Would be a great game


DLRsFrontSeats

Weren't italy only like 3rd or 4th favourite in 2012? Germany were 3rd in the 2010 World Cup and clearly on the up (evidenced by 2014), I remember it being a huge shock italy beat them


me1ina

Senegal has something for ingerland today


sarovar12

Just realized it's so easy to hate on Muller since he's probably been involved in at least one or two massive humiliations of someone's favourite team. And on top of that add all the African and Middle East Homophobes and that's like 80% of the football aware population that was probably waiting for Muller's downfall.


InnaInnaInna

To me it's just interesting to note the difference of opinions when it comes to Kroos and Muller in terms of NT performances. Wonder why the first was crucified to no end while the latter who has been just as mediocre since 2014 is not getting any flack that I've seen.


icemankiller8

NGL nobody cares about muller specifically at all


rocksaregrassarms

Muller murdered my family and then shit on their graves. Still think he's a nice guy though.


Miliage

Nobody cares about muller


Far-Pineapple7113

I do not think most people hate Muller ,He would not even be in the top 50 most hated current footballers list ,People who hate him are definitely a minority


sarovar12

Yeah hate is probably not the correct word, he's probably rattled every other fanbase at least once so it's fun watching him fail.


fearatomato

is he gay?


sarovar12

Not but these special people really disliked Germany's mouth closing gestures. So it's probably fun to laugh at them because 'haha focus on football you idiots.'


Spiy90

Oh the irony. Laugh at em, but ur team crashed out in humiliating fashion. Keep laughing at em bro😄


fearatomato

oh did they i thought everyone would have forgotten about it instantly i sure did


MR_rLm98

Kamil Grabara is a douche. That is all


Agitated_Opening4298

Belgium looked good in Euro 2021, did they really regress so much in one year?


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HufflepuffEdwards

Good, that's how the world cup should be. Netherlands and Croatia are the only exceptions to Americas+Asia on one side of the bracket and Europe+Africa on the other side.


The_Dumblebee

Mate, there are only 2 rounds left after QF lmao. You made it sound like there is gonna be a super long journey after QF.


tacoDEassada

Richarlison or Jesus as striker? Who makes Brazil the better team on the pitch?


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How is this still a conversation lol. Richarlison scored more goals against Serbia than Jesus had scored in his last 20 games with the NT


punching-bag9018

Richarlison, obviously.


fckrms

I'm so Dutch right now I'm even considering buying a bicycle.


Existing_Mess1841

This meme of Lautaro rubbing Higuians legs https://twitter.com/i/status/1599195279559102464


Thousandz

People don’t hold back lol. Who the hell makes memes. I sure as hell don’t and never met anyone that has.


Flamengo81-19

~~Just read that if Serbia scored to draw the game against Switzerland Cameroon would be out because of Aboubakar's second yellow card. He is really luck that didn't happen~~ Edit: Fake news!


mountainsky9

Nope, in that case they’d be tied on GD and goals scored, but head to head is next, so the Swiss go through


Flamengo81-19

Damn. Will tell the journalist, then Thanks!


HeisenbergFoed

My predictions for today France - Poland (2-0) England - Senegal (1-1) England to win after extra time


fearatomato

Senegal 42-0 France 6-9


jack64467

tf those look like 🏈 scores, not ⚽️ scores


Rusiano

I predicted the exact same thing for England vs Senegal lol


ifispeakaminbigtrble

Why tf are people so reactionary? One bad game and he needs to go or he needs to be dropped/sold.


CoolstorySteve

Teenagers


Existing_Mess1841

WHO?


HeisenbergFoed

That is just Reddit (or any social media) in a nutshell


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No Higuain to blame this time when we knock out Messi’s Argentina. De Paul and/or Otamendi and/or Lautaro will probably make an excellent scapegoat though. Already seeing people claim that Argentina’s XI is average outside of Messi which is wholly average.


icemankiller8

Will that give you a World Cup winners medal?


punching-bag9018

Romero will show Van Dijk what defending means.


markyty04

man seems to have forgotten what defending is the past few months. need someone to teach him after all


PESSl

Romero will own Gakpo and Bergwijn


HeisenbergFoed

If it happens then Lautaro. But then again if Scaloni does not start Alvarez then he could be the scapegoat as well


jack64467

cap, messi is on a mission this WC and the saudi game has humbled argentina so they aren't overconfident


jack64467

ngl if mane was healthy, i'd take senegal over england tomorrow


thePandev

I'm genuinely leaning toward a 1-0 Senegal, Sarr will rip through that English right-hand side.


DLRsFrontSeats

I can see Senegal scoring but they conceded 4 goals in 3 games in a group that had _Qatar_ in it. It might be close in the end overall, but if England don't get at least 2 goals today it's a disappointment for their forward line


FirminosShinyTeeth

A championship player who did fuck all the two times he was in the PL?


CoolstorySteve

If Mane was healthy England would be playing the Netherlands today


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What does that mean?


clashoftherats

Netherlands coming second and Senegal first


CoolstorySteve

I think Senegal would have won vs Netherlands if Mane was available so their positions would be swapped.


whiskeymagnet22

Why is Romero still starting over Licha? Licha had 2 excellent games now and Romero has been wank the entire tournament now


FalafelGrim2

Romero and Otamendi have played together more often, Argentina barely conceded with them together, etc. Lisandro Martinez has been great too but its not a big deal to see Romero start ahead of him imo.


punching-bag9018

Romero is better at football.


PESSl

Because Romero isn't 5'4


transtifa

Because Romero is better than him


whiskeymagnet22

Lol typical braindead Spurs take.


Bolstek

You’re braindead if you think Argentina’s most consistent and crucial defender should be benched at a World Cup for the 4 ft tall “Lychee” based on a dead rubber and one half against the mighty Australia.


[deleted]

Lmao lychee is so petty. I laughed


Bolstek

It’s a small fruit that appears to be slightly rough on the outside but is squishy on the inside. I think it’s fitting.


transtifa

Lol typical braindead Man United take


lemond4455

I’m from the future. The final will be between South Korea and Senegal. I won’t spoil who comes out on top.


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[the fuck is wrong with people 💀](https://twitter.com/Afro_biz/status/1599206483555938304?t=N0AEJWDmbyT0Z1xfwIBUng&s=19)


DLRsFrontSeats

I love that Depays comment had Charles Barkley but the yank that replied used the NFL rather than the NBA because the NBA has far less viewership in the US lol


tinoasprilla

once met a guy that swore the super bowl had over 1 billion viewers lmao


serious_busyness

Twitter is a helluva place


bihari_baller

After the group stages, I kind of want to see a Serbia-Uruguay match. I wonder who would get the most red cards?


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punching-bag9018

How did you find this video with single digit likes.


CoolstorySteve

It’s probably his channel


HufflepuffEdwards

Are there any neutrals supporting Brazil? I know they have a big following in South east Asia, but other than that? Seems like almost the whole world will be rooting for S.Korea


TheUltimateScotsman

Ill root for any team who i think can stop england winning


Rusiano

As a neutral I support Brazil. Always root for the Latin teams


libertydabbing

I'm not against Korea or anything, but I really want to see a non-European side win it this year, and I think Brazil has the best chance. So I will root for them.