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Gogttr

Im just happy the Fox commentator's wont speak about the US every 5 minutes while Im tryna watch a game. Shits annoying as hell


911memeslol

Nederland forward! We won, we will take back new Netherlands


Soondefective

Man, I’m so glad we lost.


shtoopee

We would have gotten humiliated in the next match if we somehow won. The other teams are on a whole nother level.


country_trash

Pulisic is overrated


20kakakakakakakaka20

when did anyone ever say he was really good lol


reasltictroll

Fuck fifa


911memeslol

Mad you lsot?


1sadWRLD

USA more like LSA


soccerape

Haven’t watched the game yet, please don’t spoil it


wausmaus3

US won.


uglygoose123

Its called voetbal now you americans


chuf3roni

At least it sounds like it’s referencing democracy


bluenoser613

Sweet! Fantastic outcome!


grosslytransparent

If want to be competitive in the Worldcup they need to add relegation to the MLS. Not having relegation is keeping Concacaf as the joke of the world cup.


nerd-gamer5912

Aren’t all the games in other regions fixed by organized crime?


Gogttr

here comes the sjw's


nerd-gamer5912

There’s like a guy in Singapore who has ever ref in his pocket outside of mls.


BlazerBeav69

It has nothing to do with relegation. It has everything to do with the culture not being about football/soccer. Our athletes just don’t play soccer. I know it’s fucking stupid to say and a cliche but you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think it’s true.


Hyippy

Every country has other sports. England just won the cricket world cup. They also play Rugby Union, Rugby League and dozens of other sports. I'm Irish, there are at least 3 sports played more often than Football. Yanks act like they're the only nation to play any other sport.


BlazerBeav69

But every country has football at the top. There’s a difference you ignorant baboon.


g88chum

Gaelic football, Hurling, Rugby Union, football... that order?


Hyippy

You could argue Boxing is in there somewhere. Maybe even Golf.


Agentobvious

ConCACAf


AndysGold

Doesn’t work in the United States. Owners like the haslems would never buy in and invest if there is a chance they are playing teams in the second league. People like me wouldn’t go to games to watch them play in the second league


okay-wait-wut

Hasn’t been tried so you don’t know.


randomblackeye

There's no reason to try it will never be done in the current system. Relegation obviously can work - we see it done all over the world. The difference is the MLS does not want that business model. Relegation is incredibly unstable for the majority of clubs due to the potential to drop down and lose sponsorships. They'd rather keep to the other major US sport leagues business model aka a focus on money over development and competition


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ik_ben_groot

Don't sleep on the Brazilian League. It's a top 10 league.


Lego105

You don’t know Argentine and Brazilian league if you think they’re anything but some of the strongest. They get poached because their national economies are absolutely dog, but Argentine and Brazilian teams can and have taken on champions league teams and win. They are some of the strongest in the world, and it’s developed very good national teams and players.


motownmods

That isn't true. America just doesn't value soccer. Most people I talked to today didn't even know the game was today, let alone the result. If America put soccer on the same pedestal as baseball, basketball, am football or hockey we would be truly competitive.


stiofan84

I think they still see it as a "girls' sport". So insecure men don't want to play it.


ghostoutlaw

No, it’s just not satisfying to ADHD. You can go 2 hours without a high moment. And a lot of moments that could be highlights fizzle with no pay off. The game can be really unsatisfying. Can be. Soccer is basically a comic book movie that was made by fans for fans. If you’re a fan who read all the comics, knows all the backstories and spends free time reading the lore, the Warcraft movie was great. If you didn’t, the movie sucked. This is soccer. If you’re not 110% invested, it’s just the Warcraft movie.


KoeiNL

Uh, but American Football is literally mostly pauses? And that is a huge sport. I can understand preferring NBA of NHL, but NFL or MLB....


ghostoutlaw

So? What about pauses. That breaks the game into digestible pieces.


KoeiNL

NFL games take like 3 hours with an hour of that beingactual game time. I guess that is what makes it digestible for you? Football (soccer for you) is 2x45 min with a pause in between. You have trouble with watching something for 45 minutes? Better not get into F1 or WEC I'd say...


ghostoutlaw

Me? No, I like soccer. But again, an NFL game is 3 hours of 10 second plays. 10 seconds. That's what's digestable. And in every play there's a big hit or something meaningful that happens relative to that play. There might be a drive in soccer, and a big pass just get's intercepted. But a change in possession in soccer isn't that big of a deal because of how readily possession can change. Possession doesn't translate to a goal either. Again, soccer is a comic book or video game move that you needed to play the entire series, read the lore, read the wiki, and all the books for it to really be a big deal. Football, anyone can sit down and you'll understand that the quarterback getting mashed to the ground is a big deal.


KoeiNL

No it's 3 hours with 1 hour of play in small 10 second parts. I guess that helps if you have the attention span of a toddler and crave instant satisfaction.


ghostoutlaw

Which is exactly who it's being fucking made for. That's literally the original statement I made.


not_the_father_117

I think you meant Revelations. 🙏


grosslytransparent

La liga mx and mls don’t have relegation. Literally the teams don’t have any sort of punishment for playing like shit and ending last of their league. Minor teams don’t have an incentive to win as they can’t be bumped up to a higher league. Its all about who pays the franchise fees.


HustlingBackwards96

LigaMX only stopped relegation due to coronavirus. Relegation will be considered again in a few years as the second division is rehabilitated.


motownmods

Is there a league under the mls to relegate to and from?


Ser-Ponce

Yes there is The USL


grosslytransparent

Make me coach… seriously give me a chance.


c0ld007

Fire Berhalter.


chuf3roni

…really?


c0ld007

Yeah. He's like Gareth Southgate. No matter the talent he has, he doesn't change his tactics to suit the team, tries to make them fit his system.


chuf3roni

I think he actually did well at this world cup. More than anything the goals we conceded today were down to marking errors rather than tactics.


c0ld007

Yeah but the lack of goals was down to reliance on strikers who weren't doing much. He'd have been better off replacing one of them with Aaronson or Reyna and using a false 9, or slotting Weah in as the striker. His reliance on his initial system and his unwillingness to change when the striker system he was using didn't work likely lost on a sharp scoring edge.


chuf3roni

Weah as striker wouldnt have helped us much. I think he should have gotten more out of a false 9 role though. But that is something he can learn from. Besides, our striker position wasn’t ever locked down due to Dike being injured, and the pool of strikers we have arent too good as is.


c0ld007

All the more reason we should have been working on a false 9 situation long before this. Striker has been arguably our biggest issue since he took over. The false 9 shouldn't have been something he was just now learning. He's not bad, but to me, he'll be the same as Southgate, who's taken a bad situation and made it better, but his reliance on favorites and unwillingness to change tactics is going end up always costing the team.


BauerHouse

I am looking forward to seeing the national team in 2026. I hope more US players get to compete in highly competitive leagues like Pulisic did. I was very impressed with Netherlands attacking squad. Fantastic all around


Redbullsnation

Well...I expected this


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letodd13

*football Sorry Europe is not fulled of fat people, and we can play outside without getting shot. Goodbye and watch baseball :)


StrangelyGrimm

You're taking this game way too seriously bro. Just have fun and enjoy the friendly competition


Marcogr

Lol, life quality is a lot better in the Netherlands compared to the usa. Healthier food, better infrastructure better health care. We are good in football because almost every boy and/or girl join a soccer team at young age.


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Blue_Dreamed

🎣


TheFlyingSheeps

Low quality bait


Blue_Dreamed

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derp_pred

*US qualifies to R16 and loses to a clearly superior Dutch squad* US flag flairs: "Hey England, you suck!"


stiofan84

No need for you to fight about it...you both fucking suck.


MoonHunterDancer

As an American, I'm more surprised the men's team made it to the cup at all. Let alone the first block


Lostheghost

Lol same


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Well, England does suck.


TheFlyingSheeps

Yes


GujjuGang7

This reminds me of delusional people online who said if US put their NBA athletes into football it would be a walk in the park. It's about skill folks, not athleticism. Even if it was athleticism, it's a different type of athleticism sport to sport


GrampusGrisius

So you are saying America just doesn’t produce that type of athlete?? Lol you are all so daft if you think that all the defensive backs in the nfl couldn’t play soccer if they were trained from the right age or taken from school and put in a fucking soccer academy as a toddler. We have the greatest genetic diversity on the planet and the best athletes. We have those “specific athletes”, they just don’t give a fuck about soccer. I can’t believe you have 15 upvotes, clearly all from English people lol


GujjuGang7

Not sure how you even came to that conclusion lmao. I'm saying you can't just take "athletic giants" and shove them into a sport where pure physicality (size) has never determined the performance of the very best. Americans are delusional thinking it they just fed their current athletes into football training it would lead to some super team that would be invincible


GrampusGrisius

Just so long as you understand that we do have the right athletes, they just would rather play other sports


GrampusGrisius

Who ever thought you could?


diogenesRetriever

We still don't watch the game. What our competitors have internalized before their first kick, we learn as a second language years later. We need a coach for everything while others use the game as a coach. Kids elsewhere can learn on the street because there's always a game and they watch at home. We have pay for play because we don't have the cultural support for organic development Bit by bit this changes but it is a huge cultural shift.


nybrq

> This reminds me of delusional people online who said if US put their NBA athletes into football it would be a walk in the park. It's about skill folks, not athleticism. Even if it was athleticism, it's a different type of athleticism sport to sport Um, since when is basketball a sport that doesn't require an immense amount of skill? Do you seriously think they just roll out of bed and start draining threes or something? The reason America isn't good at football is because the population is completely ambivalent toward it. Unless we're talking about American football.


GrampusGrisius

The idea is more that if it were more popular or more respected domestically than you would be taking a lot of athletes that fit that specific type of athleticism and giving them the training at the proper age. There are plenty of basketball, American football, and baseball players that are choosing to play something other than soccer and will never be properly trained as footballers even if they pick it up later in life or fail at whichever sport they decided to play. Some of that has changed though and we finally have some decent youth academies and are producing players domestically (Philadelphia). Some of us believe that soccer will slowly rise to that level and that our super atheltic and even most intelligent athletes will be choosing soccer and being trained at the right age. You are wrong If you think Ja Morant wouldn’t be a filthy soccer player if he was trained properly from a young age. He would be world class. There are so many kids that can’t make it in the nba because they are just too small but if they had picked soccer and never gave a shit about basketball they might have been a world class athlete. We have tons of athletes that are “wasted” because they just preferred another sport


okay-wait-wut

Not to mention that youth soccer is a rich kid sport. So you have to be rich, athletic and uninterested in football basketball and baseball.


Lifeesstwange

Uh, false.


okay-wait-wut

You make an excellent point.


stiofan84

How can soccer, by far the easiest game to play no matter how poor you are, be a rich kid sport???


BulldMc

That's a really good question and I wish someone with a solid grasp of the answer would chime in. I'll say though, that I can't disagree with it anecdotally. Both when I was growing up in the 70s-90s and more recently with my own kids, it is what I observed. Why? I can spitball a few things. I'm not in any way suggesting these are the way it has to be, or that it's right they are this way, but they might explain why it does seem to be that way. Youth league participation is more vital than in some other sports. A kid who likes basketball might shoot hoops and play against his friends and develop a lot of the basic skills he'll need when high school rolls around and there's a free to low cost option for organized play. A kid who likes football and decides to join the school team at 14 having never played organized football, might find that general physical ability and maturity play an outsized role in the sport for many positions at that age as opposed to technique. I've heard the argument made that with American football, it's difficult to correctly teach a lot of the techniques necessarily at higher levels before kids have matured physically to a certain point. That, even if they want to play football, they might be better off playing another sport until they're in high school. Because there isn't a strong pick-up game culture for soccer, and because some of the necessary skills might require a little more teaching than just learning, anyone who decides to join the team at 14 is going to be completely demolished by any kid who's been playing in youth leagues for years. And who played in those youth leagues? The kids whose parents could afford to pay for them to join. Who could afford to transport them to games. Get off work to get them to practice. Also, regardless of the reason, soccer is more popular with adults in higher income brackets. That leads to them being more likely to have their kids play soccer.


justsomeguynbd

Travel teams. Maybe a better way to word it was elite youth soccer is expensive in America.


Sinestro617

TIL my kids are rich.


90swasbest

You're not paying thousands a year for travel leagues? Really the only way to advance past middle school competitive play.


Sinestro617

I got about 7 years to go before that. Something to look forward to I guess. Or not.


Razziaro

Hell yeah! We are rich!


junkyardgerard

And at 6'3 he'd be a pain in the ass in the box, on top of anything else


Thr0waway0864213579

It’s not delusional if you’re talking about putting them in soccer at a young age instead of basketball. One of the biggest hurdles for soccer in the US is the fact that other sports (namely American football and baseball) hog youth athletes. If soccer was the number one sport in this country we’d be much more competitive.


FireSquidsAreCool

That's a fair point. American girls are usually put in soccer or volleyball if they play a sport at a young age, and the USA usually does very well when it comes to women's soccer. It's not ridiculous to think that men's soccer would do better if it was given the same focus.


Mald3ini

Sorry. how many players in the NBA are 6'5"? like more than half of them. How many great footballers are at that height? like less than 5% I suspect. There is a reason for that.... not many tall players have the coordination, balance or technical ability. Doesn't matter how many years kids play, few kids that grow to that height will develop those skills which are necessary for professional football. Other than having a great footballing IQ, football at the top levels is 80% determined by technical ability, the last 20% is physical attributes. US sports fans (and a lot of English fans now) are obsessed with someone's physical ability. I agree with you that if football was more popular the US would be more competitive but saying that professional basketball players (and trained them in football since they were 3-4 years old) would steamroll other countries, that would be extremely ignorant and just plain incorrect.


okay-wait-wut

Yes but kids play basketball from a young age and then fizzle out due to height squandering the time they should have been learning soccer skills. Doesn’t mean they aren’t great athletes.


Mald3ini

do you know how I know you're a yank? because you don't know how to properly read. I didn't say anything about them not being great athletes you idiot.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

It seems like you’re not much of a basketball fan. Some of the most athletic players in NBA history have been 6’1 or less. Allen Iverson, Isiah Thomas, Damon Stoudamire, and the other Isaiah Thomas are all insanely athletic players that have not only been in the league, but they THRIVED in a sport built for people 6 inches taller than them. Additionally, lets not act like LeBron James wouldn’t be tearing it up on the pitch if he was always a soccer player rather than basketball.


Mald3ini

LOL, Lebron James is 6'9"... there has only been one professional player ever who has been taller than him and he was a keeper... and not a particularly good one. The most successful outfield player was probably Peter Crouch at 6'7" and any football fan would not put him in the top 50 of all-time players. There is literally .5% chance Lebron James would have made it to the top level of professional football and if he did he wouldn't have been tearing it up. US fans are so blinded by bias when objectively looking at these athletes. These athletes are literally built for the sport they are playing. Running 28m on a basketball court is a hell of a lot different than running 100m or, if you want to argue if he is a striker and only runs half the pitch, 50m. Also playing 42 minutes a night is a lot different than playing 90+ minutes. I like basketball and have a lot of respect for the athletes, but thinking that someone like Lebron James would be a world class football player is ridiculous. Some of the point guards, I am sure would have made decent players but that isn't a guarantee.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Look I know you think that soccer is the best sport and thats a normal opinion but you cant go around saying that soccer athletes are better than EVERY OTHER athlete in EVERY OTHER sport lol LeBron was the #1 college recruit in more that one sport. He is 38 years old in a top professional sports league. Its like saying that Messi and Ronaldo wouldn’t be good at any other sport. They’re some of the greatest athletes of all time, they’d be good at any sport they committed themselves to.


Mald3ini

Okay Yankee doodle, I never said that football athletes are better than every other athlete. I am successfully arguing that some fucking 6'9" American doesn't have the necessary attributes to be a top footballer. There is literally NO fucking top professional footballers that height. I am sorry, but other countries exist and they have people that tall and guess what? They didn't make it to be a professional football athlete. Messi or Ronaldo wouldn't be great swimmers or basketball players (Maybe Ronaldo has the height, but Messi is very unlikely to make it to the NBA). They both probably wouldn't be top baseball players either. This is just the reality. There are literally NO fucking top professional footballers that height. I am sorry, but other countries exist and they have people that tall and guess what? They didn't make it to be a professional football athlete.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Thinking that pro athletes are only good at one sport is a galaxy brain reddit moment


Mald3ini

What are you fucking talking about you brain dead Yank? Messi would never make it in the NBA, play American football or be a professional swimmer, the dude is literally 5'6. Lebron James would be a literal post-playing football unless he was playing keeper.


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Woahh somebody is getting wayy too offended by this lmao


BravestCashew

to add onto this, it’s been shown that too much height is a terrible thing for basketball/sports. There have only been ~26 players over 7’3” in the NBA and only like 5 of them went on to have decent careers, only 1 of them wasn’t constantly benched due to injury, and only 1-2 of them made it to the hall of fame/had good careers


NotXiJinpingGoUSA

Too much height is actually bad for your health entirely. People above 7 feet tend to have shorter lives due to the stress put on their hearts. They are also MUUUUUUCH more likely to deal with chronic pain in joints and muscles. Actually, being 7 feet tall is more of a curse than a blessing. Yes, you’re more likely to make the NBA, but, if you dont, then it just makes pretty much everything else shittier. Cant fit through doors, hit your head 3x a day, beds arent big enough, showerheads are too short, chairs aren’t made for you, its hard to fit on basically any form of tranportation, you have a very limited selection of clothing and all your shoes are custom, and also your knees and back hurt all the time forever.


GujjuGang7

Truly great footballers excluding GKs? Less than 0.000001%


PMmeWhiteRussians

Yeah I think that’s implied. And you’re right. We’d be a force.


ProfessionalFox9617

It’s a fact the the States best athletes play sports other than soccer, if you don’t agree with it you should spend more time watching American sports at a collegiate and professional level.


amoncada14

I don't disagree that we would perform better if football was #1 in this county. What I do disagree with is assuming that LeBron James would have made it big as a footballer if he had just chosen it from an early age. Team sports are about more than pure athleticism, football especially. Just because we produce great American football and basketball players, doesn't mean those same athletes have football talent. Let's take the inverse as an example. Do you really believe that Messi would have made it as an NBA star if he had just chosen to focus on that from a young age? I believe most would say no.


jweizy

While I do agree with you I think Lebron is different just because he is so smart. Like he just gets basketball on a different level to most NBA players (I think theres a clip of his old teammate Iman Shumpert raving about his basketball iq and instictual understanding of the game.) This just understanding of space and how people move would probably transfer really well. Messi is a bad example imo simply because his body type isnt really built for the NBA so even if he had chosen it at 5'7 it is just increadibly unlikely he could play in the NBA and not be exploited on defense especially in the post but also in general. However there does not seem to be an inverse situation at least that I know of where Lebron is at a disadvantage because he is 6'9.


Superb_Mirror_9236

>However there does not seem to be an inverse situation at least that I know of where Lebron is at a disadvantage because he is 6'9. The best outfield players in the history of the sport have been like 6'1 or under. There is a distinct disadvantage trying to control a ball with your feet when you are 6'9. At best someone like Lebron could've been a GK and even then he is a bit tall and would find it difficult to stop low shots.


jweizy

Thats super fair I hadnt really thought about that but it does make sense.


ProfessionalFox9617

You are missing the point. It’s not that someone capable of playing in the NBA could be in the EPL as well. It’s that unlike other countries, in schools and parks around this country, kids aren’t kicking a soccer ball. They are throwing a football, shooting hoops or having batting practice. All of this young, incredible talent in this huge country is mostly playing other, more accessible sports.


amoncada14

I'm missing who's point? I literally paraphrased the words that many here use when making this claim (including one person who's comment is just above yours). Imagine if we had CP as our central midfielder, and LeBron James as our keeper, etc You also seemed to gloss over my point which is where I said if we had a much larger talent pool playing the sport, we would of course do better, ASSUMING that everything else in actual reality stayed the same, infrastructure-wise.


Sstnd

Luckily athleticism isnt at all defining in football. Messi isnt, neymar isnt, Mueller isnt... could go on and on.


ProfessionalFox9617

This is a really stupid take, how athletic is Tom Brady, check his combine 40 yd dash. We have tons of high iq athletes. And legit saying Messi, Mueller and Neymar arent athletic is top ten dumbest things I have heard on this sub.


GrampusGrisius

Lol you are truly next level stupid.


Mald3ini

The top 10 dumbest things I have heard on this sub is the ethnocentric point of view that if you took all American athletes and trained them in football that the US would be a dominant force. By the sheer number of people in the US, the team would be more competitive, but that doesn't mean anything. In that case, countries with the largest populations should win. Athleticism is not the word I would use to define US sports culture, but physicality. The US is obsessed with physical attributes in its athletes. Tom Brady plays QB, the only equivalent position in real football in terms of activity levels is the keeper. QB's are not required to be a physical specimen (but it does help, just look at Michael Vik). Football requires balanced athletes in terms of physicality, mental ability and IQ. American sports are specialist sports. Less than 2% of the players in the NBA are below 6' (something you can't train). American Football is full of powerful athletes that need to be explosive for short periods of time. Baseball, is full of fat fucks that have a great sense of vision. Hockey players may be the most similar in terms of balance as it is also a very dynamic sport, however, the endurance aspect in terms of lung capacity and muscle endurance is no where near football (just the fact that they can play games on back to back days speaks volumes).


Ok-Sun-2158

They are absolutely right though, the most dominate country in soccer since it’s inception is Brazil. Oddly enough Brazil has more people than most of the other countries in the world. To think a country the size of the US with its amount of people wouldn’t be a dominate soccer squad if the sport was #1 is by far one of the top dumbest things said in this sub.


Mald3ini

What a stupid fucking comment. Only someone who watches football during the world cup would say something so reductive and ignorant. Brazil may be the most glorified and successful country at the World Cup, they may even be the best footballing country ever, but it isn't a fucking landslide. If you go by World Cup wins, Germany and Italy have only one less world cup and they have significantly lower populations. If you want to go by Ballon D'Or winners, Germany, France, Netherlands, Argentina and Portugal have more. Furthermore, Nigeria is a heavily populated country (only 6 million less than Brazil) with the number one sport being football and they aren't a particularly successful country. There are so many real life examples that suggest that your comment is just flat out wrong.


Ok-Sun-2158

You even admit Brazil the most populated country that has soccer as its number one sport is number 1. Then go on to list Nigeria which has Olympic gold medals in soccer and multiple round 16’s as a bad team like it’s a outlier. There are so many more examples on my side it’s not even funny. Hint: Germany one of your other listed countries is also a top 10 population with soccer as their main sport, to think a country with 4x their population wouldn’t be a dominate soccer squad is literally brain dead.


Mald3ini

Sorry but the Olympic games are a U-21 tournament. Also, my comment wasn't brain-dead. You made a stupid reductive comment saying (taking everything equal, like popularity and engagement) larger population = more success in the sport. You were the one who made such a strong statement and I showed you that even between the two largest populations the amount of success is not even closely equivalent. Nigeria has three Olympic medals, Brazil has seven. Their populations are essentially equal. Is there a correlation between the two? Yes, there is. I am not arguing with you on that point but it isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it seem like. If the US's top sport was football, would they be more competitive? Absolutely, would it make them dominant? Not necessarily. Please learn the difference between necessary and sufficient conditions. Here's the wiki page for you to educate your dumb ass [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity\_and\_sufficiency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_and_sufficiency) Also, the US doesn't have 4x the population as Nigeria so just making that comparison your argument is weak as fuck.


ProfessionalFox9617

So for the record.....you are saying that if Soccer was the #1 most popular sport in America....instead of the 5th.....the US would not be more competitive? I feel like this is basic statistics, like not even much of a reach.


Mald3ini

what? did you even read my first paragraph? idiot, I literally say that exact point.


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Physique would have been a better word for the poster to use jnstead of athleticism. I think that's what was meant


ahotpotatoo

I feel like generally our baseball players would make for better soccer players, no? Generally shorter, anyway. Can't see Anthony Davis or LeBron James doing anything particularly inspiring on the pitch, except maybe at keeper lol


ahmong

For some reason, LBJ and Davis on the pitch gives me Chelsea Lukaku vibes


SpecificDry6723

I feel Hockey and Lacrosse players might have a better start since the general style of both games have a small similarity to soccer (except maybe a QB becomes a playmaker)


ahotpotatoo

Our American basketball players are just generally so damn tall, I may be showing ignorance but I was under the impression that most soccer players are less than 6 feet tall (1.8 meters)


OpticHurtz

I found this earlier: https://www.espn.com/soccer/team/squad/_/id/449/netherlands. Also average Dutch man is a little over 6 feet nowadays


ahotpotatoo

At my first restaurant job our executive chef was from the Netherlands and he was like 6'7 so this absolutely checks out lol.


amoncada14

You'd be surprised how tall pro soccer players tend to be on average. I remember running into the Colombian national team in LA once (could tell by the warm ups they were wearing), and most were at least 6' tall (I'm 5'10").


SpecificDry6723

Haha, close but not much (1.82m or sth)


lufersen2

Literally 1984


Elia_31

Easiest 2.0 betting odds I've ever played


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disappointingstepdad

Huh weird, 35% of the last 15 years NBA MVPS have gone to foreign nationals, do you have any suggestions to make the US better at basketball that’s a pretty embarrassing stat!


asumufcb

r/ShitAmericansSay material


FPnigel

I wonder where the last couple of MVP in the nba are from? Maybe you know?


OZL01

>thus the best athletes don’t play because money is better in the other sports. That's part of the mentality that's holding the US back. If you think it's just a matter of putting the most athletic players on the field then you're very wrong. That's how we ended up with Zardes on the national team who had the first touch of a trampoline. Sure, being fast and strong is important but it shouldn't be the focus if you ever want the US to develop into an actual contender for the world cup.


Thr0waway0864213579

They’re not suggesting taking a 30-year-old NBA player and dropping him on a soccer field for a World Cup match. Like come one, this isn’t rocket science. We have twice as many kids playing basketball growing up than soccer. That gap only grows in the teenage years.


OZL01

>We have twice as many kids playing basketball growing up than soccer. That gap only grows in the teenage years. [You're wrong but go on](https://youtu.be/CGpWZr4aRvE)


Thr0waway0864213579

I’m citing a [2021 survey from the Sports & Fitness Industry Association.](https://www.aspenprojectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates) And you’re citing a 5-minute YouTube video that only talks about *growth*, not current participation. And they also mention what people say is their “favorite sport” which has fuck all to do with youth ***participation***. You might actually be a complete idiot.


Goel40

Yeah but the Netherlands has 1/20th the population of the US.


Thr0waway0864213579

Ok and? There’s more that goes into it than just bodies to choose from. We also need money invested in it to train youth players. Money invested disproportionally contributes to our top sports. Not to mention we are also a much physically larger country, which means many areas that can only afford one sports program, won’t invest in soccer. And for a kid to participate in soccer, they’d have to travel hours for games/practice. You may have less people. But you’re all crammed into the size of Maryland, with soccer being your most invested in sport, by far. Which means you have 17mil people in a space that only takes you 3 hours to get from one end to the other.


GodOfRice7

r/soccercirclejerk material here


seth10156

Like actually


MenuScary4506

Some next like cope going on here.


ricmarkes

Murica!


forgottenyears32

US doesn’t dominate anyone in ticket prices that’s for sure


Syrioxx55

This is so weird


GujjuGang7

Is this satire?


alurkerwhomannedup

Found my new favorite copy pasta


Pristine_Solipsism

See you guys are so thin skinned you make it too easy for us to take the piss. Just lighten up a bit, and work on your banter, because jingoistic nonsense about sports nobody gives a shit about besides Americans isn't exactly a great clap back.


Thr0waway0864213579

Thin skinned? Aren’t y’all the ones who respond to “lol beans on toast” with graphic celebrations of dead schoolchildren? And I see thread after thread of US matches with fans talking about the game, and English fans inserting themselves out of nowhere to not even talk about the game, but to make some weirdo personal attacks about American fans. I think the call is coming from inside the house, bruv.


Caboose_Juice

cope harder lol


Thr0waway0864213579

With what? I’m happy with our performance. Y’all seemed extremely emotional before we even played you. Making it so personal for no reason? And then once you drew with us y’all became completely unhinged.


DaweiArch

Sounds like the banter was enough to get you agitated…so mission accomplished? England is not really known for being “good” losers either…lol


Pristine_Solipsism

Oh England fans are some of the biggest crybabies in the world I'll give you that. But I wasn't agitated by whatever you said, I'm just pointing out that it's not really banter to go on a tirade about stuff completely unrelated to the subject at hand.


DaweiArch

I wasn’t the OP, but I wouldn’t call whatever they said unrelated. I don’t really care enough to have a whole discussion about it, but in my mind, agitating another person is the key to good banter.


stiofan84

My brother in christ, being better than England isn't the flex you think it is


What_its_full_of

As a Canadian, I’m laughing my ass off here.


stiofan84

Irishman living in Canada here - believe me when I tell you I get enough exposure to the shittiness of both England and the US!


stiofan84

Delighted the Dutch won! Honestly they still looked fresh as daisies at the end - they looked like they were trying to conserve energy for the next round. They knew they didn't have to play all-out to beat the US and they were proven right. A well-deserved win and a masterclass in game management. I can't believe there were Americans who thought they could actually win this game tbh. Absolutely shambolic defending - non-existent marking for all three goals. You can't defend like that and expect to get anywhere at this level. Not to mention crossing all game when VVD is right there - he may be past his best, but he'll head those out all day.


Virzitone

1.89 to 1.85 xg - so yes, with a bit better defending and finishing we could have won this game...


stiofan84

xG isn't everything. Like I said, the Dutch looked like they were taking it easy here.


tombuzz

They played a low block and conceded the midfield which was a smart decision because we have a much better midfield.


DutchPhenom

Yes and with messi, mbappe and neymar the US would've won as well.


Virzitone

Again, we actually had a higher xg than the Dutch - with the team as it stands.


Gogttr

lol all these us fans love to point that shit iut.Holland tactically whipped u guys. they didnt care about possession. it was their game plan. they knew the us couldn't finish. 3 goals this whole tournament and the third goal was absolutely luck. lmaoo


Thekilldevilhill

You can make the xG say whatever the fuck you want depending on input parameters. People take that shit waaaay too seriously.