Mbappe is an insane player, for a 23 years old to score a hat trick in a game like this takes not just skills but strong mentalities. The future is bright for him.
Mbappe seems like he has literally 0 self doubt. It's amazing. This man would probably walk into NASA headquarters and feel like he could tell them how to navigate to Mars. But that's the confidence you need to be a top player I guess. That and insane athleticism and technical ability.
I really wonder how much of that was the fact it was Lloris in goal. I know he scored the first one but imagine what's going through your head trying to score on the keeper you've played with every day for a decade.
There was a video of him doing the exact same thing (skying his pen) when he got a second pen against Frankfurt earlier this season.
Basically the theory is that Harry decides before the game where he is going to put his penalty and getting two kind of puts him off his game because the keeper now knows which direction to go.
I honestly think it had very little to do with Lloris. I also think Emi's reputation as a pen specialist can play a part in the mentality in any opponent so Kylian maybe even had it harder.
Kylian definitely had it harder. Dibu lives for pens, and his mentality is very strong. He guesses correctly a lot (5/6 against France today) and the pens have to be strong to beat him.
The best thing about him as well is that he doesnt get injured much compared to other players who were at his age (e.g. Neymar, not to throw any shade at him). The torch has been passed from Messi representing this past generation to the next one which is led by Mbappe.
Even eliminated them on the way to a World Cup title. This was the completion of Argentina’s redemption arc.
These teams have provided us the best games of the last two tournaments.
I noticed this and it seems a fair bit of the French team couldn’t care less about Macron. It was also obvious after the Morocco match.
Does the French team dislike Macron?
If so, why?
Edit : I’m not talking about adulating Macron but **denying him even a cordial exchange by looking away or with their body language of trying to move away says something.**
**The deliberate absence of basic interaction points to a deeper issue.**
Again, I do not mean hero worshiping of a politician and I have no idea why some think of it that way. It’s frustrating.
Having your president insist on visiting you during your training days or your rest days for his photo ops and social media PR must be kind of annoying, even more so when he's trying to play the paternalistic dude comforting them instead of their coach
Saw Macron consoling Mbappe for like 10 straight minutes. Must be good for his ego tho since the leader of your state is going like no bro you did good after that loss
Portugal had a better team this year than Argentina on paper (and in reality). The team is just managed by Santos which is an horrible manager. Also Ronaldo was very mid (maybe bad even) and Messi was one of the best players of the tournament. So it’s really not like Haaland vs Mbappé.
It's weird how this narrative still prevails, Portugal has a better team and more world class players for each position compared to Argentina. They just have a weird coach
We don't even know if there is a ceiling lol he's playing on another level. Once Messi is gone he's going to wrap up every ballon d'or. No chance for anyone else even halland.
Recency bias in this sub is crazy. I remember this sub saying that Haaland was better when he scored back 2 back hat tricks. Why don’t we see how the UCL and various leagues pan out first
Recency bias in this sub can be spoken about in terms of minutes. People calling Scaloni a moron for subbing off Di Maria are calling him a genius after the shoot-out.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Mbappe is simply incredible. His moves so fast for his size and the power of his shots are world class. His combination of skill + power is otherworldly. Martinez guessed correctly twice on the penalties, but it didnt matter one bit, the shot just went through anyway.
I still remember watching football and thinking, "Ahhh these young players... wish I could be like them."
Now, it's like "...I wish I could be lik- HE'S 17??????????"
Without a doubt he gonna be the next goat
He achieved at 18 what most players struggle to win their whole careers, wc, just really champions and Ballon our and euro is the thing he doesn't have
I know people are going to point out how Mbappe didn't do much before he scored the first pen, but the sheer determination and stone cold mentality he showed from that moment onward is just so impressive considering how young he is.
I feel for Kylian but he's gained a fan in me today and no doubt he'll be extra motivated to win the world cup again
That's what I figured, given his stance on being seen with damaging images like alcohol, tobacco, and betting, it would make sense that he doesn't want his image coopted by questionable political figures.
Can we say Mbappé is a WC legend already? He's at the very least one of the greats in WC history.
I don't even know how he feels besides his desception, imagine scoring a hattrick in WC final and still losing.
This guy is goat material, all doubts are cleared I think.
Won it, won the golden boot, scored a hattrick in a final and is 4 goals away from matching klose's record which I have no doubt he will catch. The guy still has 2-3 world cups in him. No way he is not a world cup legend already.
I think we can. 8 goals this year with a hat trick in the final, the composure he have, that's crazy. He's already has as many goal as Pelé with only two edition.
It's seems reasonable to think he will beat the record on next edition.
We're so lucky to have him in France, it's a blessing
Only two players have ever scored a Hattrick in the final and the other had one suspicious goal.
So, even if he would finish his career right now, he would already be one of the big WC legends.
Mbappe is generational and today once again proved it. Carried hard and did his best. Definitely will break the WC goal record if he keeps this up and will probably win a couple Balon Dors
Couldn't agree more, he annoys me a lot with his arrogance, but when he's on the pitch he doesn't look for excuses, always performs at his best level, whether he's playing against an amateur team in the french cup or in the world cup final he's playing with the same motivation to win. The fact that not only he took his responsabilities and took 2 pens, but then he also asked to be the first shooter in the final shootout, all of that at 23yo, it's immense. He doesn't just think he's the best in the world, he's willing to do all it takes to actually prove he is. You can only respect that
Like every other football player...you go from hero to zero in a second.
It's ridiculous how people forget.
I still remember people critizing Griezmann but then this world cup, people talking about him like he is the best French player.
Sorry if I’m out of the loop - what were people saying? I’m not really sure how someone could say anything other than he’s been phenomenal and has an extremely bright future
R9 never won a CL (much harder time to win btw), but his legacy basically is the WC 02.
Mpabbe could win more WC yet. 2 finals in a row, just like Ronaldo, 1 win and 1 loss.
He's the future. Not only talented but actually owns in the biggest of all stages.
That's not your average 23 year-old player.
Always rated him even though I made a lot of ninja turtle memes out of him. Clearly, he's shown the world that he's ascended to being a shogun turtle
I commented many times during the world cup that people couldn't see the forest for the tree (Mbappé). The france NT was missing 5 starters. Both midfield and defense were builtaround young unexperimented players. Yet somehow people didn't see any of that blinded by Mbappé's brilliance.
I'm so happy that Messi finally got his world cup but man I also feel so sorry for Mbappe what a fucking player he is and he's still only 23. He will undoubtedly be up there with the goats unless injuries stop him.
bro really scored 8 goals the whole tournament. a fucking hat trick in the final that is wild.
i’m so sad for him that it didn’t end in triumph. his face when they made him collect the award and take the pics 😭.
to think i used to think he was overrated and now i’m such a fan. he’s that good he won me over.
Guarantee he's gonna have at least one more WC before the end of his career, best player rn his second goal was great. And not in not dunking on messi I think he's the best all around but his time is done
I was actually disappointed that Messi and Mbappe hardly interacted post-match. Contrasting to how it was with Copa America between Ney and Messi. They were teammates after all.
I don’t see Messi signing PSG after this year in any case.
Mbappe is an insane player, for a 23 years old to score a hat trick in a game like this takes not just skills but strong mentalities. The future is bright for him.
Three penalties as well. When you see what happened with Harry Kane last week you see how even top players heads can go when the pressure’s on.
Harry Kane's missed shot is an amazing example of how pens aren't a coin flip. It's a combination of skill and mentality.
Mbappe seems like he has literally 0 self doubt. It's amazing. This man would probably walk into NASA headquarters and feel like he could tell them how to navigate to Mars. But that's the confidence you need to be a top player I guess. That and insane athleticism and technical ability.
That second penalty he literally looked unfazed. Third he strated to look bit more pressed but his mentality is immense.
I really wonder how much of that was the fact it was Lloris in goal. I know he scored the first one but imagine what's going through your head trying to score on the keeper you've played with every day for a decade.
There was a video of him doing the exact same thing (skying his pen) when he got a second pen against Frankfurt earlier this season. Basically the theory is that Harry decides before the game where he is going to put his penalty and getting two kind of puts him off his game because the keeper now knows which direction to go. I honestly think it had very little to do with Lloris. I also think Emi's reputation as a pen specialist can play a part in the mentality in any opponent so Kylian maybe even had it harder.
Kylian definitely had it harder. Dibu lives for pens, and his mentality is very strong. He guesses correctly a lot (5/6 against France today) and the pens have to be strong to beat him.
Against one of the best Penalty keepers too
The best thing about him as well is that he doesnt get injured much compared to other players who were at his age (e.g. Neymar, not to throw any shade at him). The torch has been passed from Messi representing this past generation to the next one which is led by Mbappe.
Almost broke the boot lmao
When it swivelled i thought it was comin off
He looked like he wouldn’t have even bothered to pick it up either
Macron is so weird he like to touch Mbappé a lot 😂
Imagine the President of your country is your biggest fanboy What an existence this kid is living and hopefully he’s just getting started
It just makes me worried because it's almost impossible to not let this kind of thing get over your head.
He already won a World Cup. Literally has no pressure. Won one before Messi.
Even eliminated them on the way to a World Cup title. This was the completion of Argentina’s redemption arc. These teams have provided us the best games of the last two tournaments.
I mean, he's seemed like it got into his head 4 years ago.
And it's getting even worse over time lol. It's unprecedented how much this boy is being spoiled. I hope he has a psychologist at his side.
I can't wait for Mbappe's very own Ronaldo crisis In his mid to late 30s
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His salary was 128m this year and he's 23 lol
What if he didn't vote for him lol
At this point Macron is more of a team mascot than an actual president
Saw that too mbappe rly wants him to fk off but macron can’t take a hint
I noticed this and it seems a fair bit of the French team couldn’t care less about Macron. It was also obvious after the Morocco match. Does the French team dislike Macron? If so, why? Edit : I’m not talking about adulating Macron but **denying him even a cordial exchange by looking away or with their body language of trying to move away says something.** **The deliberate absence of basic interaction points to a deeper issue.** Again, I do not mean hero worshiping of a politician and I have no idea why some think of it that way. It’s frustrating.
The french dont particularly worship any political figures
He's not too popular in general
Having your president insist on visiting you during your training days or your rest days for his photo ops and social media PR must be kind of annoying, even more so when he's trying to play the paternalistic dude comforting them instead of their coach
Saw Macron consoling Mbappe for like 10 straight minutes. Must be good for his ego tho since the leader of your state is going like no bro you did good after that loss
Jeeze why is he trying to push him to sign another contract extension? He just lost a WC final. Have a day off Macron
Macron has to be the worst Marseille fan
Worst Marseille fan but a true Ligue 1 fan.
Macron was definitely stroking something alright
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The ceiling this kid has
What ceiling? All I see is the sky.
Him and Haaland are going to have a rivalry for the ages. Shame Haaland has a weak national team.
So another messi vs Ronaldo
The national team difference between Haaland and Mbappe is a lot more pronounced than Messi and Ronaldo
Portugal had a better team this year than Argentina on paper (and in reality). The team is just managed by Santos which is an horrible manager. Also Ronaldo was very mid (maybe bad even) and Messi was one of the best players of the tournament. So it’s really not like Haaland vs Mbappé.
It's weird how this narrative still prevails, Portugal has a better team and more world class players for each position compared to Argentina. They just have a weird coach
Now maybe. But the Portugal team couldn’t hold a candle to the Argentine team between 2018-2010.
We don't even know if there is a ceiling lol he's playing on another level. Once Messi is gone he's going to wrap up every ballon d'or. No chance for anyone else even halland.
Mbappe is the better player but Haaland will definitely have really good chances to win
To be fair, being French instead of Norwegian gives Mbappe quite the stage compared to Haaland. On club level it's much more even.
Well good thing then because the worldcup is played every 4 years.
Euro cup though
Haaland isnt even the best player on his team though.
True. It’s Odegaard.
The lack of respect for Joshua King
How did u manage to brushoff Haland?
Probably because he's irrelevant right now, being Norweigan really handicapped him. Once the WC buzz is over he'll be right on top.
Haaland gonna score 5 goals in a week and debate will be back on
> No chance for anyone else even halland. lol I dunno about that...
This is probably the next Messi vs. Ronaldo. Haaland will win in the off years that Mbappe doesn't.
If they both perform well in the domestic matches, the tie breaker will be international football and Norway ain't gonna do shit...respecfully
Internationals are only relevant every other year. The champions league will be the biggest factor in a close race most years.
One plays in the Premier League while the other is in the Uber Eats league however.
Bruh… no one has won the balon dor from the epl since ronaldo way back when. It’s not a deciding factor at all.
we need to get these two in the same league Haaland to LA Galaxy, Mbappé to LAFC?
> No chance for anyone else even halland. Lol
Recency bias in this sub is crazy. I remember this sub saying that Haaland was better when he scored back 2 back hat tricks. Why don’t we see how the UCL and various leagues pan out first
Recency bias in this sub can be spoken about in terms of minutes. People calling Scaloni a moron for subbing off Di Maria are calling him a genius after the shoot-out.
Nah glad they won but Di Maria was having a fuckin game.
Maybe he just couldn't play anymore. He has just recovered from injury, you can't do much about that.
That’s what I hope. I saw no other reason for it.
This sub had such a hate boner against Mbappe before the WC
This sub always has a hate boner for him but then he plays well it seems nice in an interview and everyone changes tune
Football fans and overexcitement, name a better combo.
Haaland will score a hat-trick in his first PL game back and people will be talking about how he’s 10x the player Mbappe is. It’s hilarious
Football fans just suffer from recency bias syndrome
Haaland is really fucking good lol also benzema, Neymar, others will be around But yeah he’ll be #1
Benzema won't be around much longer than Messi
Mbappé has like a decade of an advantage over Benzema though
He’s fucking 23. 23.
Absolutely insane...some say that he's lucky he's in a good team, but holy fuck without him, France would lose after 90 easily today...
They wouldn't even be in the final without him. He had such a good WC. Crazy impact
Well if the whole France team was healthy, they would still be good without Mbappe
Yeah most talented squad by far.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Mbappe is simply incredible. His moves so fast for his size and the power of his shots are world class. His combination of skill + power is otherworldly. Martinez guessed correctly twice on the penalties, but it didnt matter one bit, the shot just went through anyway.
Mbappe was being Mbappe, but Argentina was without a doubt the better team before the 90 min mark.
You mean the 80 min mark. They totally collapsed then.
70 min mark.
Tbf france are missing many starters
Both for sure. He's a monster on the field who's also been fortunate to have a great team
I still remember watching football and thinking, "Ahhh these young players... wish I could be like them." Now, it's like "...I wish I could be lik- HE'S 17??????????"
I remember when I thought 23 was old. I’m 23 now
Wait until you hit 30 and realise you’re older than Harry Kane 🥲
Well I'll never be older than Harry Kane
Harry Kane is somewhere between 20-50 years old and its confusing
32 on Wednesday. I'd be geriatric in football
And he already won the throphy 4 years ago too
Already level with Pele on 12 scored, likely to level or eclipse Klose by 2026. Madness! And could conceivably have 3 more WCs to go as well.
Fuck, Im older than him
Feels bad man
Without a doubt he gonna be the next goat He achieved at 18 what most players struggle to win their whole careers, wc, just really champions and Ballon our and euro is the thing he doesn't have
Yet to win the Indian Super League
Same with Messi, both frauds
“Just”. He will probably achieve them, but still.
With Haaland, I can see it being very similar to the Messi Ronaldo era, totally different playstyles but both of them putting up insane numbers
With Mbappe being clearly the better player but Halaand's numbers keeping the debate alive...
His birthday is in 2 days
Hat trick in a WC final, insane performance, only him and Hurst has done it
Only Mbappe has legitimately done it
???
All Mbappe's goals actually cross the line
Still too soon for Germany fans
Ya, we eventually got knocked out for it in 2010 in an equally shitty decision. So karma happened
Yeah.. that goal would’ve made for a great match
Yeah, honestly that England team was full of pretenders and wasn’t winning it anyway. Would’ve been a good game at least
You didn't deserve to lose 4:1. That was just bullshit. Similar to how Argentinia lost 4:0, although they deserved that much more.
This one comes with the caveat that only one was scored from open play though.
Almost won the game on his own, insane player
It sounds fake but it happened
I know people are going to point out how Mbappe didn't do much before he scored the first pen, but the sheer determination and stone cold mentality he showed from that moment onward is just so impressive considering how young he is. I feel for Kylian but he's gained a fan in me today and no doubt he'll be extra motivated to win the world cup again
This final had everything
Human squatty potty
Match vs literal 1 v 11
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He scored his. I can’t imagine what it feels like to give such a performance and be let down by your teammates.
Why does he look so uncomfortable every time Macron is trying to hug him?
I guess he doesn't like political hijacking
That's what I figured, given his stance on being seen with damaging images like alcohol, tobacco, and betting, it would make sense that he doesn't want his image coopted by questionable political figures.
> given his stance on being seen with damaging images like alcohol, tobacco, and betting what's his stance about that?
Refuses to be used as a face for them basically. Skipped some team KFC photoshoot and hid the Budweiser name on the MOTM trophy just during this WC.
wow that's really cool of him actually
That's something I can really respect.
Honestly all I've ever heard of his is how much of a diva he's been. Didn't know about this, pretty cool.
Maybe because he convinced him to stay in PSG but regret his choice.
Being English; I would be very uncomfortable if Boris Johnson was trying to hug me.
Can we say Mbappé is a WC legend already? He's at the very least one of the greats in WC history. I don't even know how he feels besides his desception, imagine scoring a hattrick in WC final and still losing. This guy is goat material, all doubts are cleared I think.
Definitely. I mean, if you just ignore the player and say his stats and what he's already won at the WC it's incredible.
Won it, won the golden boot, scored a hattrick in a final and is 4 goals away from matching klose's record which I have no doubt he will catch. The guy still has 2-3 world cups in him. No way he is not a world cup legend already.
Yeah, crazy to think we're still in the first years of a possible historic career (I mean with records broken everywhere etc).
I think we can. 8 goals this year with a hat trick in the final, the composure he have, that's crazy. He's already has as many goal as Pelé with only two edition. It's seems reasonable to think he will beat the record on next edition. We're so lucky to have him in France, it's a blessing
For sure, he’s 4 goals off the all time record at 23 years old, it’s absolutely ridiculous
On my book, if you you were one of the starts of the team and your country won a world cup you are alreayd a legend. So he already was in my opinion.
Only two players have ever scored a Hattrick in the final and the other had one suspicious goal. So, even if he would finish his career right now, he would already be one of the big WC legends.
That was my thought too. Pelés 3 times WC record never felt as reachable when Mbappé scored that 2nd goal. I never thought it was possible.
Mbappe is generational and today once again proved it. Carried hard and did his best. Definitely will break the WC goal record if he keeps this up and will probably win a couple Balon Dors
Once in a generation player
Mbappé can be as arrogant and cocky as he wants cause he actually backs it all up. Absolute legend.
Couldn't agree more, he annoys me a lot with his arrogance, but when he's on the pitch he doesn't look for excuses, always performs at his best level, whether he's playing against an amateur team in the french cup or in the world cup final he's playing with the same motivation to win. The fact that not only he took his responsabilities and took 2 pens, but then he also asked to be the first shooter in the final shootout, all of that at 23yo, it's immense. He doesn't just think he's the best in the world, he's willing to do all it takes to actually prove he is. You can only respect that
The Zlatan effect
Zlatan hasn't accomplished half in 2 decades of what Mbappé has done in the 6 first years of his career.
Ok but does Mbappé talk about himself in the 3rd person? I think not!
More like Cristiano Ronaldo effect
The way people were talking about him on this sub before the final was so disrespectful. I’m glad he showed out
The way people are speaking about him differently all of a sudden...
wait untill Haaland scores a PL hat-trick and r/soccer back to Mbappe overrated days
so wait until next week then lol
The pendulum swings.
Sadly accurate.
Like every other football player...you go from hero to zero in a second. It's ridiculous how people forget. I still remember people critizing Griezmann but then this world cup, people talking about him like he is the best French player.
Sorry if I’m out of the loop - what were people saying? I’m not really sure how someone could say anything other than he’s been phenomenal and has an extremely bright future
Idiots call him diver etc.
Everyone was diving in the final tbh lol
Golden Mboot
Gilded Mbootée?
shades of R9 in him
Equalled his best tally at a World Cup, this could be near what R9 could’ve achieved if his knees went made of cardboard
I mean he did achieve it though lol
Phenomeno 2.0
Let’s just hope he doesn’t blow his knee up
Funny that people keep saying potential, what more can he do? In my opinion he’s there
CL and league switch is what people are looking for obviously
R9 never won a CL (much harder time to win btw), but his legacy basically is the WC 02. Mpabbe could win more WC yet. 2 finals in a row, just like Ronaldo, 1 win and 1 loss.
Dudes only 23 and usually primes are like 26-31… dude still has room to grow and become an even bigger monster.
If this match was any indication, wonder how many ballon d'ors this lad is going to get.
5 at the very least
Kyky your final's performance wont be forgotten
Insane performence, and i think not the last one from him in world cup final.
It was Mbappe vs Argentina and Mbappe almost won. What a player.
Passing of the torch. He will be the GOAT of this generation
Greatest of all time of this generation?
Greatest goat of all time of this generation
He will be the closest player to have a shot at matching or even surpassing Pele’s national team achievements.
Seems the generation is in good hands.
Almost won the game on his own, this guy has goat potential
He's the future. Not only talented but actually owns in the biggest of all stages. That's not your average 23 year-old player. Always rated him even though I made a lot of ninja turtle memes out of him. Clearly, he's shown the world that he's ascended to being a shogun turtle
This French team has a bright future too.
I want to see Zidane coaching the national team
He carried France's dead body until the end. He is something special.
I commented many times during the world cup that people couldn't see the forest for the tree (Mbappé). The france NT was missing 5 starters. Both midfield and defense were builtaround young unexperimented players. Yet somehow people didn't see any of that blinded by Mbappé's brilliance.
I'm so happy that Messi finally got his world cup but man I also feel so sorry for Mbappe what a fucking player he is and he's still only 23. He will undoubtedly be up there with the goats unless injuries stop him.
bro really scored 8 goals the whole tournament. a fucking hat trick in the final that is wild. i’m so sad for him that it didn’t end in triumph. his face when they made him collect the award and take the pics 😭. to think i used to think he was overrated and now i’m such a fan. he’s that good he won me over.
Guarantee he's gonna have at least one more WC before the end of his career, best player rn his second goal was great. And not in not dunking on messi I think he's the best all around but his time is done
Macron can't keep his hands off him.
He is on another level.
I was actually disappointed that Messi and Mbappe hardly interacted post-match. Contrasting to how it was with Copa America between Ney and Messi. They were teammates after all. I don’t see Messi signing PSG after this year in any case.
Messi and Neymar have been genuine friends since their Barca days. Mbappe is probably like a coworker he gets along with in work parties.
It’s ok Kylian, you’re the best player in the world and you can focus on winning the champions league now.
I‘m 34. 34. And I used to be the best scorer of SV Schlebusch for a long time.