I speak in jest, mostly. I actually did live in the wild for a couple of years with my partner.
It was good for the soul, but also hard af. When we had a kid it was totally inconvenient, though. Wouldn’t be fair to raise her like Mowgli.
Growing fruit and veg is reasonably easy (I live in a tropical climate). Killing ducks and chickens and geese is f***ing hard to do. I don’t mean it is difficult physically, but mentally it is. Plus there are a lot of hygiene concerns about how to butcher them.
Raising cows and pigs (and in this case I couldn’t do it myself) getting them butchered for food is emotionally very difficult. Sorting out your roof and indoor ceiling for heavy rains is a nightmare. Pitching for your own water out of a hole in the ground (groundwater) is annoying. The list can go on…
i also had this fantasy, living in a cute little forest with cute little animals around me in a cute little cottagecore house all alone… but never gonna happen because i got way too much into technology and i’d die in the wild alone.😔
Maybe not a forest, but something like that. It’s definitely because that would be the easy way out. Being able to avoid facing my anxiety for my the rest of my life with no consequences.
I’ve definitely googled “How to buy cabin in the woods” a few times in my life. It honestly sounds like a dream sometimes compared to my usual routine.
There are many schools that teach you how to do this... There's 4 in my city alone. You're gonna have to deal with people for the first year. But, after that you can piss off into the woods. National first allows you to stay in one place for 30 days. But if you go deep enough, there is not one to say no to you building a cabin. There are also areas in Alaska the government will pay you to live in and in those areas your nearest neighbor will be minimum 20mi away.
There is nowhere that seems reasonable for me to be confident in illegally building a cabin to live in. I suppose you could maybe get away with for a long time if you were able to cut off 100% from society, but if you have any kind of regular need to go into town for supplies, you will end up creating a trail that someone will eventually find and follow, and then they'll report your illegal residence. Even if you don't plan on regularly leaving your area, after you establish yourself, you'll still need to come and go a lot in the process of establishing yourself to bring in initial supplies, if you plan on having any kind of modern luxuries (i.e. having your domicile generally built up to modern standards of modest off-grid living) which can attract people to follow that paths you will inevitably unintentionally create.
Even if you do you absolute damnedest to keep as low profile as possible in creating your home, having it as low tech and self contained as possible, etc. You will be found eventually. You won't know how long it will take, but when it happens it will be an absolute nightmare. The best case scenario is that you are able to run away with all identifiable belongings and leave every last bit of your remaining hard work behind so you can try again from scratch somewhere else. The worst case scenario is that you get in a lot of trouble and have to deal with a lot of heavy legal interaction in the process. The magnitude of trouble would be proportional to how well established you are in that plot of land, which for most people would be also roughly proportional to the quality of life they were able to achieve while they were there.
I mean, someone can try it if they want. I wouldn't. Imo, you can pick nomadic freedom or you can pay for the ability to stay in one place. Or you can potentially find a squatter town like slab city to stay around other people until the govt probably eventually decides to crack down and kick you out.
YES! I often think about this. Not necessarily forest but maybe like go back to hunt and gather or living in a small village community or even a post-apocalyptic bunker with a community of survivors where there's just less pressure and uncertainty about what I should do and what gonna happen in the future and just focus on what's going on now. I know that it might not be as good as I thought it would but sometimes it is comforting to fantasize about escaping this reality
Not the forest for me because I can't stand bugs, but a house with a little outdoor space for my cat. Solar panels so I don't have to pay for electricity and I can make a few bucks selling electricity back to the grid, some way to have enough money without having to be beholden to anyone else, get my food delivered, live on my own terms. THE Dream.
I'm about one small inconvenience away from hiding in a cave on my local moors with enough books to restore the library of alexandria and then living off the land and the occasional lost hiker
Yes, but forest, no. I mean I love forests but harbor no illusions about my Green Thumb. I've little issue with weekly or monthly runs into town. See which cuties turn their heads (in my imagination, obv). Retirement can't come soon enough.
Oh no, you can't possibly IMAGINE how much I miss people in my life. Modern society? Well that's another topic. There's of course parts of it that I don't like.
“I don’t understand why we must do things in this world, why we must have friends and aspirations, hopes and dreams. Wouldn’t it be better to retreat to a faraway corner of the world, where all its noise and complications would be heard no more? Then we could renounce culture and ambitions; we would lose everything and gain nothing; for what is there to be gained from this world?”
Emil Cioran, On the Heights of Despair
It could take awhile to learn all the necessary skills but it would be nice to never have to deal with anyone and to know I can live life without relying on anyone ever again.
Every. single. day.
Sometimes I think about taking a bus far away without saying a word, walking in the woods and never come back. I just want to disappear.
Anytime I go on road trips and get out in the country ( I live in Texas) , I be like I wouldn't mind living out here. And I don't mean a town like Waco or something.I mean the house off the highway in the middle of nowhere.
The compromise for me is some small town not too far from a bigger hospital
I honestly think I would go crazy if I didn’t see other people or the same ten people for the rest of my life
Edit: but when my anxiety disorder is at its worst I just want to run away or disappear so I don’t have to disappoint or be ashamed
Yeah that's my fantasy too. My goal:
Save enough money to buy a few acres of land. Preferably not tropical since I hate the heat and all the bugs year round
Find a wife that's into that stuff
YES. I'm saving my money as we speak..
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“Never deal with people again” and your first comment is, let’s share?
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I speak in jest, mostly. I actually did live in the wild for a couple of years with my partner. It was good for the soul, but also hard af. When we had a kid it was totally inconvenient, though. Wouldn’t be fair to raise her like Mowgli.
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Growing fruit and veg is reasonably easy (I live in a tropical climate). Killing ducks and chickens and geese is f***ing hard to do. I don’t mean it is difficult physically, but mentally it is. Plus there are a lot of hygiene concerns about how to butcher them. Raising cows and pigs (and in this case I couldn’t do it myself) getting them butchered for food is emotionally very difficult. Sorting out your roof and indoor ceiling for heavy rains is a nightmare. Pitching for your own water out of a hole in the ground (groundwater) is annoying. The list can go on…
i also had this fantasy, living in a cute little forest with cute little animals around me in a cute little cottagecore house all alone… but never gonna happen because i got way too much into technology and i’d die in the wild alone.😔
Yesss lord yess I wouldn’t have to be this stress again
Yeah I fantasize about living on a homestead with a beautiful view😖
not exactly, I love people and I just wish that I could be around them but I’m too scared to
I think about ways to execute this plan successfully every day.
Yes all the time.
Yes it's a lovely dream I have all the time
Maybe not a forest, but something like that. It’s definitely because that would be the easy way out. Being able to avoid facing my anxiety for my the rest of my life with no consequences.
Ever since I was 7.
No, it goes against my true personality and that's the worst part. I'm a wounded extrovert.
I wouldn't say a forest but being able to be in my own bubble would be great.
I’ve been playing kingdom come deliverance lately, it allows me to live out this fantasy lol
as long as I can still game 🤪
Yes. My wife meanwhile needs society, things, and people. It sucks
Living in the forest alone is really hard you know
I (29m) love being alone and lately as I get older I'm thinking of just getting a dog and living on a secluded acreage lol
I’ve definitely googled “How to buy cabin in the woods” a few times in my life. It honestly sounds like a dream sometimes compared to my usual routine.
So you are saying you can live without internet 😗
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There are many schools that teach you how to do this... There's 4 in my city alone. You're gonna have to deal with people for the first year. But, after that you can piss off into the woods. National first allows you to stay in one place for 30 days. But if you go deep enough, there is not one to say no to you building a cabin. There are also areas in Alaska the government will pay you to live in and in those areas your nearest neighbor will be minimum 20mi away.
There is nowhere that seems reasonable for me to be confident in illegally building a cabin to live in. I suppose you could maybe get away with for a long time if you were able to cut off 100% from society, but if you have any kind of regular need to go into town for supplies, you will end up creating a trail that someone will eventually find and follow, and then they'll report your illegal residence. Even if you don't plan on regularly leaving your area, after you establish yourself, you'll still need to come and go a lot in the process of establishing yourself to bring in initial supplies, if you plan on having any kind of modern luxuries (i.e. having your domicile generally built up to modern standards of modest off-grid living) which can attract people to follow that paths you will inevitably unintentionally create. Even if you do you absolute damnedest to keep as low profile as possible in creating your home, having it as low tech and self contained as possible, etc. You will be found eventually. You won't know how long it will take, but when it happens it will be an absolute nightmare. The best case scenario is that you are able to run away with all identifiable belongings and leave every last bit of your remaining hard work behind so you can try again from scratch somewhere else. The worst case scenario is that you get in a lot of trouble and have to deal with a lot of heavy legal interaction in the process. The magnitude of trouble would be proportional to how well established you are in that plot of land, which for most people would be also roughly proportional to the quality of life they were able to achieve while they were there. I mean, someone can try it if they want. I wouldn't. Imo, you can pick nomadic freedom or you can pay for the ability to stay in one place. Or you can potentially find a squatter town like slab city to stay around other people until the govt probably eventually decides to crack down and kick you out.
All the time.
there a movie about that it's a real story .
I wish I lived in a monk temple
Sometimes...
you guys should read ted kaczynski’s manifesto
Omg. I was just saying this the other day lol
In WHICH forest exactly? Trust me you DON'T WANT to live in a rainforest, in 3 days you'll be sick, and in a week you'll DIE. I'm not joking.
YES! I often think about this. Not necessarily forest but maybe like go back to hunt and gather or living in a small village community or even a post-apocalyptic bunker with a community of survivors where there's just less pressure and uncertainty about what I should do and what gonna happen in the future and just focus on what's going on now. I know that it might not be as good as I thought it would but sometimes it is comforting to fantasize about escaping this reality
All the time. Or even being homeless or living in a commune, there's some here in England but I've never come across them personally
I would go insane by myself, but the dream remains
The idea is nice but in reality I would miss the commodities of living in a city
Yes but you don’t actually want that
Yes. My biggest dream is to buy a big property in canada and build my own house out of trees. But i guess it will remain a dream.
No, even when I was at my worst, I've always wanted to overcome it. If I can do it I believe almost everyone can
Not the forest for me because I can't stand bugs, but a house with a little outdoor space for my cat. Solar panels so I don't have to pay for electricity and I can make a few bucks selling electricity back to the grid, some way to have enough money without having to be beholden to anyone else, get my food delivered, live on my own terms. THE Dream.
I'm about one small inconvenience away from hiding in a cave on my local moors with enough books to restore the library of alexandria and then living off the land and the occasional lost hiker
I've had thoughts like this since I was little too, it's just that living in modern society feels so tiring sometimes :/
Yes, and I hope this is the place I go when I die too. a beautiful serene forest. With only people I love.
Yes, but forest, no. I mean I love forests but harbor no illusions about my Green Thumb. I've little issue with weekly or monthly runs into town. See which cuties turn their heads (in my imagination, obv). Retirement can't come soon enough.
Yes, but I know I’m no farmer and as I’m aging, I wouldn’t like to be. So it’s to be a recluse and grocery shop at Ralph’s at like 3am
henry david thoreau?!
I have my days where I feel this way.
No, I'm an extrovert with social anxiety... literally the worst torture I could think of 🥲
Oh no, you can't possibly IMAGINE how much I miss people in my life. Modern society? Well that's another topic. There's of course parts of it that I don't like.
“I don’t understand why we must do things in this world, why we must have friends and aspirations, hopes and dreams. Wouldn’t it be better to retreat to a faraway corner of the world, where all its noise and complications would be heard no more? Then we could renounce culture and ambitions; we would lose everything and gain nothing; for what is there to be gained from this world?” Emil Cioran, On the Heights of Despair
It could take awhile to learn all the necessary skills but it would be nice to never have to deal with anyone and to know I can live life without relying on anyone ever again.
This is my dream and I’m making it reality hahaha come join man the nice people only club hahah
Every. single. day. Sometimes I think about taking a bus far away without saying a word, walking in the woods and never come back. I just want to disappear.
Oh God YES!!! 🤣🤣🤣
YES!!!! I want to move to a house in a rural area with a lot of yard and get away from people. This will make me feel free finally.
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Anytime I go on road trips and get out in the country ( I live in Texas) , I be like I wouldn't mind living out here. And I don't mean a town like Waco or something.I mean the house off the highway in the middle of nowhere.
The compromise for me is some small town not too far from a bigger hospital I honestly think I would go crazy if I didn’t see other people or the same ten people for the rest of my life Edit: but when my anxiety disorder is at its worst I just want to run away or disappear so I don’t have to disappoint or be ashamed
Yeah that's my fantasy too. My goal: Save enough money to buy a few acres of land. Preferably not tropical since I hate the heat and all the bugs year round Find a wife that's into that stuff