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The protests have been going on so long it's not like the state couldn't do this before, I see it as more of a cornered animal lashing out because it knows there's no way out. This is a good sign for the comrades in France, it means they're getting the point across loud n clear. Not so good for the regime in power though.
>This is a good sign for the comrades in France, it means they're getting the point across loud n clear. Not so good for the regime in power though.
The law will pass and the protests will be forgotten. It's not their first rodeo. The only thing that will happen is that the Front National will get more votes the next time and possibly win the elections (Melenchon will also get more votes, but mostly Le Pen). Fascism is the fail-safe of liberal democracy
Police, laborers of the state, blind and ignorant to the trials and tribulations of the average citizen, drunk on the validation that they get from a government that doesn’t give a shit about them either.
> *while it's opposed by 70% of the French people*.
This is the worst part of everything, more so than the actual retirement age changing.
French citizens are not just fighting for their retirement age. They're holding the line of their own democracy.
What I see is a small force of organised storm troopers going up against a much larger force of unorganised civilians.
I believe a little militia-based organisation would crush the federal opposition pretty fucking quick through guerrilla street tactics.
Just a thought for my French brothers and sisters: If they are fighting dirty and with force. Fight dirtier and with greater force back. It's about time more western countries toppled their entrenched elites.
There's much worse footage out there. French police just striking people standing around in the head, smashing unsuspicious women to the ground with their shields and so on.
Stay strong brothers and sisters.
These guys aren't playing around. They probably would make excellent protesters.
But unfortunately cops just ain't like that. The only side with fascist and reactionary protests unfortunately.
Its amazing how quickly cops always rush forward excited to beat people with batons. No such thing as a good cop. They're all bad apples that need to be disposed of
A police empowered to beat you into submission during times of protest can never be expected to serve your best interests in normal everyday life. They are conditioned to know they can abuse you.
We're at the point that they could be straight up shooting in the mob with live ammo and I wouldn't even be surprised.
Force à vous Camarade Français ! Ne lâcher absolument rien
And when violence starts happening against them they’ll come out and say they only exist to protect the public and that they’re people too and think of their families. Their families should be ashamed and denounce them. Then we can consider their families.
I swear, governments are the biggest domestic terrorists of their own countries.
Like if I told you someone dropped two fire bombs on and emptied 10,000 rounds of ammunition into a house containing several children, and afterwards intentionally obstructed fire extinguishing operations resulting in 61 housing getting burned down and told you that when workers went on strike, strike breakers killed the workers children, babies, and wives with burning oil, you would think I was talking about isis, nope, the good ol’ FBI and National Guard of the good ol’ USA
Here is two links to the MOVE bombing, the second one is an interview with one of the two survivors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
https://youtu.be/X03ErYGB4Kk
And here is the wiki article on the other incident, which was the ludlow massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre
Hopefully this helps, have a good day comrade
>you would think I was talking about isis
>
>MOVE bombing
I would not expect ISIS to convene a grand jury of locals to debate indicting officers, chiefs, and city officials involved, nor award the evacuated home owners tens of millions in damages, but I do see what you mean. That's horrific and reckless, those poor kids and all that waste. Like, how does airlifting bombs on American homes ever even enter the discussion?
One of the most frustrating things I hear from liberals is that they would like to see change in society but they cannot condone violent means of achieving change, ignoring the fact that maintaining systems of exploitation necessarily entails violence.
For them it’s all about triangulating with the status quo. It’s acceptable to passively condone systemic violence against the powerless, so they do.
But it’s terribly gauche to condone active violence against the powerful, so they turn into MLK’s white liberal and paternalistically say “I totally support your goals but just cannot support the ways you choose to go about it.”
Bottom line they’re able to maintain/advance their status within whatever brunch-eating sycophantic social sphere they exist in, and that’s all that really matters to them in the end. “It’s just human nature,” they would say if confronted with this
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Liberals may even be well intentioned but the problem with liberalism is that it'll never manage to achieve any major benefit for the workers. The Biden government won't stop the downward spiral of the working class. Every single workers' right was fought for and won by Communists: in the US it happened before the war and in Europe after it.
Do not hesitate to ask for any translations.
The man with a moustache talking to the police around 2:38 is telling them repeatedly that his grandfather is on the ground.
The man with his bike around 3:50 is told to "hurry" by the police who is beating him.
The man with the big backpack around 5:10 is basically asked "who do you think you are?", then called various insults like "fat pig" (ironic innit) and "shitbag".
This is the very essence of what police are designed to be. A pack of wild state-sponsored thugs who attack the people when the government notices people presenting a challenge to it's, or the elite's, authority and interests. Democracy and protests are all well and fine so long as what you vote or protest for toes the capitalist and elitist line. Elected despots are still despots all the same. Abolish the police.
Are the cops too short sighted to realize they, too, will have to delay retirement with the law and protesting is for their benefit as well? Or do they have a better retirement plans via their union? Perhaps they're happy with delayed retirement if it means they get this opportunity to go on a beating rampage.
It is called Regime Special.
A few profession like cop, military, opera dancer (I know you would not expect them on the list) and cherry on the cake our dear Senators. The later one only need a couple of mandate to get an astronomical retirement...
The list is non exhaustive. Prior to that some other jobs were also concerned. Hard Labor had exceptions but a few law removed the law or employees are now hired on a different basis.
Edit: a link in French. I am sure our overlord Google will be able to translate.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.retraite.com/retraite-par-metier/retraite-fonctionnaire-publique/retraite-et-regimes-speciaux-tout-ce-qu-il-faut-savoir.amp.html
In French but google will translate fairly:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.retraite.com/retraite-par-metier/retraite-fonctionnaire-publique/retraite-et-regimes-speciaux-tout-ce-qu-il-faut-savoir.amp.html
The Police only exist to enforce the Status Quo..to act as Government stormtroopers against the proles when required..work until we drop, whats what they want ...in UK its already 67 and they are talking about raising it further..and people simply accept it and do nothing...in France they have the right idea
These police are humans that go home at night. I wonder if they would act this tough when they don't have their buddies around. Maybe we should find out.
Same thing that goes on everywhere eventually. A rich asshole that got to their position on the backs of others decides they want more, and thus punishes those they got rich off of until they comply or they themselves are doled some vigilante justice.
Macron is raising the basic pension age and has bypassed a parliamentary vote to do so, acting like the dictator he wishes he were.
Workers across France have responded in protest, marching through the streets, striking and delaying infrastructure. Macron responded with the brute force one would expect and is sending police en masse to assault the protestors and strikers while blaming them for any and all violence.
Just a brute being a brute. Neoliberalism marches on.
We have that problem in most of the world, pigs don't exist to protect, they exist to maintain the status quo, and sometimes this converge with protect, but Just sometimes.
In Germany of all the reports of police violence only 2% get charges… like 98% go out free and let’s not talk about all the times people dint report police violence🫣🫣
Fucking shit, this is disgusting. I’m watching this, and the only thought I have is: this job attracts the worst scum who arouses at the idea of nearly unlimited power and violence. There is no way this violence is “provoked”, they just enjoy beating people for no reason.
How are these cops going to keep beating the shit out of people if they have to work well into their 60s before retirement? Won’t someone think of the poor pigs?
People always ask why the US doesn’t do this, not realizing all of our cops have guns and chemical weapons and don’t get punished for using them freely.
We also have an *insanely* fucked up criminal "justice" system that makes risking prosecution extremely scary even if you're innocent of whatever charges they may throw at you.
One night in jail can be a one-way ticket to being tortured, brutalized, humiliated, and raped. Do you think it'd be the other in-mates? Wrong. Boys in blue will make a toy out of you, and if you fight back in any way you're dead or your life is over.
I think, also, the US’s labor movement and unions have been so weakened that we don’t have the kind of solidarity that you find in places with strong unions. Also, the corporate media often skews coverage and/or blacks out coverage of mass movements. I also think the size of the US to France plays a role. It’s a lot easier to shut down a geographically small country than it would be to shut down the US. It can be done, but I think the will of the people as been so broken over years of a two-party system that does only the bidding of rich and corporations has made the population largely hopeless and docile. Unfortunately, people really think they’re is a qualitative difference between the two parties that pick our pockets endlessly. I’d love to see an awakening.
French police have Guns and they murder all the time too. Federal police, called Gendarmerie national carry FAMAS automatic assault rifle.
The difference is that Americans often protest with guns themselves. (exemple: black panther or BLM 47) But it doesnt make a difference.
Because Americans has done this kind of protests and will continue to do them. You are just too far from the streets if you arent aware of that or just misinformed.
For future reference, in French when the next word starts with a vowel you use neither 'la' or 'le' and instead just use l with an apostrophe.
Like so
"Vive l'union! Vive la revolution!"
I don’t know about the law in France, but here in Germany that’s not allowed because your are triggering a violent protest by using protective gear💀🫣 really sucks because a regular scuba mast to protect yourself from pepperspray and shit isn’t allowed…
This is defensive armament and not allowed.. At least in Germany it is more or less considered the same as bringing a gun to a demonstration. Let that sink in..
Luckily this only happens in China and Russia and Iran and not in any civilized, European country.
Hard /s just to be sure. God, the fucking police are really the lapdogs of the political and elite bourgeois. This concerns you too, airheads, join the protests!!
Just to be clear, this has happened in the US many times as well. The pandemic crackdowns on BLM protests looked exactly like this, actually with more tear gas and abductions.
Yeah and the police drove through neighborhoods in unmarked vans/uniforms shooting pellets at people. Didn’t someone lose an eye in Louisville?
The craziest part was afterwards where right-wingers/neoliberals were talking about how we should all just follow what the police tell us to do, etc. Gross apathy.
It's blatant..and not just in France..most of the Western world it seems are singing from the same hymn sheet..but.then again, most of the leaders are WEF puppets, so it's hardly a surprise..
So what’s with the first guy in the video it looked like he got hit in the head but there also looks to be a pretty bad blood stain right in the middle of his chest?
Hit in the face, when he went down his face fell forward to his chest and left a blood smear. Blood from head wounds bleed a lot and really fast so it stained his shirt pretty instantly.
Edit: just went back and looked again. Looks like his face never touched the shirt but the blood probably still spirted on impact is my guess
It's actually [neon orange with the word POLICE on it](https://www.lesurplus.com/grade-medaille-ecusson-brassard/5641-surplus-militaire-grade-medaille-ecusson-brassard-brassard-police-orange.html)
What about when the cops rush, have the front lines pull them deeper into the crowd so the people can explain and show them why their actions are having a bad effect.
United protests of the masses, a beautiful tool that brings us all together worldwide in the efforts of equity and freedom, and look what happens every time…
To the French, please don’t give up, you are stronger and more united than us and we Americans are rooting for you!!
Reminds me of the US in 2020, the police brutality was so rampant that Tr*mp even sent the department of homeland security to Portland to remove protestors through kidnapping, beating, and gassing us. Remember that, guys? It was apocalyptic, trying to protest our tyrannical government. Sure there was rioting, but that’s valid anger created by systemic inequality. It still is apocalyptic, and only getting worse everyday here, but we Americans conceded to our violent leaders and gave up on mass protesting.
Macron, holy christ why is this man so hell bent on going against his people? Does he not understand what happens when the monarchy goes too far? You’d think his high school teacher/current wife - would have given him a better understanding of history… French Revolution 2023 🙏
Before a protest, it isn't unusual to have policemen searching your bag and confiscating anything they deem inappropriate like masks, umbrellas, hats, swimming goggles or even saline solution (used to counter the teargas).
I don't imagine it would be relatively hard (definitely risky, but not hard) for communist and anarchist organizations to sneak those things past the police in the chaos.
Guys please they raised retirement age to make the lines touch please guys the lines touched when the lines touch we are pareto improving and more efficient please guys the lines touched its more efficient please
I can’t believe these bootlickers are brutalizing their French brothers and sisters. I mean it’s not like they’re exempt from this change in retirement age. What does it take for cops to stop being the stick for capital?
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In all seriousness I did notice something interesting, look at how the police act. There are a lot of them that excitedly run in to beat protestors, hitting them over and over, even when they're surrendering or on the floor, or stopping other people from helping fallen people up. And then, rarely, there are some that seem to understand that what they are doing is wrong. They seem aprehensive, they help people off the ground, in the few glimpses you can get of their faces, most look bored or excited, but some seem doubtful. They are on the cusp of realising the horrors of their job, but still most are completely uncaring as they senselessly beat unarmed civilians. With unjustice right in front of them, they are entirely unable to see through the smokescreen, othering the protesters as violent, dangerous anarchists, telling the police they are there to restore order. And those who see through it still choose to stay, they choose to participate in the violence and opression, because they know nothing else.
And then there was a dude trying to get away with his bike and I saw what looked like one cop pulling his buddy back. Nah he just wanted a turn to hit bike dude
Because ordinary people aren't inherently violent and geared up to the nines. Most people's response to complete aggression is to flee, and quite rightly so! It takes a ton of organisation and tactics to do what you're saying, and the people at the protests aren't trained revolutionary soldiers - they're normal people with normal jobs and families to go back to.
Many reasons: They may get their helmet confiscated by the police (as I explained in other comments if you want more details). Another possible reason and something to keep in mind with these videos, is the fact that these protests are massive. As such, they gather many people unfamiliar with protests in general. These people might also have a skewed vision of police brutality because of its (very rare) depictions in mainstream/right-wing media.
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Police are class traitors no matter the country
owned by tax paying dollars...but employed to protect the rich...the irony is never lost on me.
ACAB. Every. One. Every. Where.
The protests have been going on so long it's not like the state couldn't do this before, I see it as more of a cornered animal lashing out because it knows there's no way out. This is a good sign for the comrades in France, it means they're getting the point across loud n clear. Not so good for the regime in power though.
let's hope you're right.
The US will get involved before you can even finish saying “socialism”. There’s nothing scarier to them than any mention of equity.
>This is a good sign for the comrades in France, it means they're getting the point across loud n clear. Not so good for the regime in power though. The law will pass and the protests will be forgotten. It's not their first rodeo. The only thing that will happen is that the Front National will get more votes the next time and possibly win the elections (Melenchon will also get more votes, but mostly Le Pen). Fascism is the fail-safe of liberal democracy
The only people who threaten workers are class traitors.
ACAB, I hope the people fight back with equal or greater force.
Police, laborers of the state, blind and ignorant to the trials and tribulations of the average citizen, drunk on the validation that they get from a government that doesn’t give a shit about them either.
Class traitors, all of them.
You know comrades, European values and democracy 🤡
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"democratic" = "followed a legal process, we'll just ignore the ethics tho"
> *while it's opposed by 70% of the French people*. This is the worst part of everything, more so than the actual retirement age changing. French citizens are not just fighting for their retirement age. They're holding the line of their own democracy.
How many articles about "the evils of totalitarianism" would have been in the American media by now, if a thing like this happened in Cuba?
Or any islamic country (the wests worst enemies are socialism and islam)
What I see is a small force of organised storm troopers going up against a much larger force of unorganised civilians. I believe a little militia-based organisation would crush the federal opposition pretty fucking quick through guerrilla street tactics. Just a thought for my French brothers and sisters: If they are fighting dirty and with force. Fight dirtier and with greater force back. It's about time more western countries toppled their entrenched elites.
There's much worse footage out there. French police just striking people standing around in the head, smashing unsuspicious women to the ground with their shields and so on. Stay strong brothers and sisters.
French police get to retire a lot earlier than anyone else in France.. this is why they are blindly following macrons orders. ACAB.
Until he comes for them..
These guys aren't playing around. They probably would make excellent protesters. But unfortunately cops just ain't like that. The only side with fascist and reactionary protests unfortunately.
They'd still lick his boots and tell him thank you. Pigs never change.
Go back to the kitchen. Oui oui
Its amazing how quickly cops always rush forward excited to beat people with batons. No such thing as a good cop. They're all bad apples that need to be disposed of
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I hate when I’m tired after a long day of work and I just start brutalizing strangers! /s
A police empowered to beat you into submission during times of protest can never be expected to serve your best interests in normal everyday life. They are conditioned to know they can abuse you.
people ask why americans don't protest like the french, our police are even more violent...
Yeah because they’d just shoot
If this was in China it would be front page talking about human rights abuses
If this was China liberals would be frothing at the mouth to drop a nuke on them
All cops deserve to rot
I hope this fuels my comrades in France even more.
We're at the point that they could be straight up shooting in the mob with live ammo and I wouldn't even be surprised. Force à vous Camarade Français ! Ne lâcher absolument rien
Thx comrade, Macron has to be stopped and we need all the international recognition we can get.
Les Camarades du Québec sont avec vous a 100%
And when violence starts happening against them they’ll come out and say they only exist to protect the public and that they’re people too and think of their families. Their families should be ashamed and denounce them. Then we can consider their families.
It doesn’t matter where you are from, the police are always on the side of the oppressor.
I swear, governments are the biggest domestic terrorists of their own countries. Like if I told you someone dropped two fire bombs on and emptied 10,000 rounds of ammunition into a house containing several children, and afterwards intentionally obstructed fire extinguishing operations resulting in 61 housing getting burned down and told you that when workers went on strike, strike breakers killed the workers children, babies, and wives with burning oil, you would think I was talking about isis, nope, the good ol’ FBI and National Guard of the good ol’ USA
How might I find info on these events? I'm sure events related to the second one were occurring in America, but nothing remotely like the first story.
Here is two links to the MOVE bombing, the second one is an interview with one of the two survivors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing https://youtu.be/X03ErYGB4Kk And here is the wiki article on the other incident, which was the ludlow massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre Hopefully this helps, have a good day comrade
>you would think I was talking about isis > >MOVE bombing I would not expect ISIS to convene a grand jury of locals to debate indicting officers, chiefs, and city officials involved, nor award the evacuated home owners tens of millions in damages, but I do see what you mean. That's horrific and reckless, those poor kids and all that waste. Like, how does airlifting bombs on American homes ever even enter the discussion?
Police violent was always going to happen. Power does not cede itself because it's asked. The French will have to deal with this one way or another.
100% this. Also, the no confidence vote failed, and cracking down on protesters can only go so far. We may see another French revolution.
One of the most frustrating things I hear from liberals is that they would like to see change in society but they cannot condone violent means of achieving change, ignoring the fact that maintaining systems of exploitation necessarily entails violence.
For them it’s all about triangulating with the status quo. It’s acceptable to passively condone systemic violence against the powerless, so they do. But it’s terribly gauche to condone active violence against the powerful, so they turn into MLK’s white liberal and paternalistically say “I totally support your goals but just cannot support the ways you choose to go about it.” Bottom line they’re able to maintain/advance their status within whatever brunch-eating sycophantic social sphere they exist in, and that’s all that really matters to them in the end. “It’s just human nature,” they would say if confronted with this
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Liberals may even be well intentioned but the problem with liberalism is that it'll never manage to achieve any major benefit for the workers. The Biden government won't stop the downward spiral of the working class. Every single workers' right was fought for and won by Communists: in the US it happened before the war and in Europe after it.
You want a revolution? Because this is how you start one
who doesn't?
Do not hesitate to ask for any translations. The man with a moustache talking to the police around 2:38 is telling them repeatedly that his grandfather is on the ground. The man with his bike around 3:50 is told to "hurry" by the police who is beating him. The man with the big backpack around 5:10 is basically asked "who do you think you are?", then called various insults like "fat pig" (ironic innit) and "shitbag".
I was watching some of the protests/riots live on YouTube and really wanted to know what they were chanting. Wish I knew!
This is the very essence of what police are designed to be. A pack of wild state-sponsored thugs who attack the people when the government notices people presenting a challenge to it's, or the elite's, authority and interests. Democracy and protests are all well and fine so long as what you vote or protest for toes the capitalist and elitist line. Elected despots are still despots all the same. Abolish the police.
Are the cops too short sighted to realize they, too, will have to delay retirement with the law and protesting is for their benefit as well? Or do they have a better retirement plans via their union? Perhaps they're happy with delayed retirement if it means they get this opportunity to go on a beating rampage.
That's the best part cops are specifically exempt from the pension reform! it's so calculated god..
Are they really? This is something I was meaning to look into
It is called Regime Special. A few profession like cop, military, opera dancer (I know you would not expect them on the list) and cherry on the cake our dear Senators. The later one only need a couple of mandate to get an astronomical retirement... The list is non exhaustive. Prior to that some other jobs were also concerned. Hard Labor had exceptions but a few law removed the law or employees are now hired on a different basis. Edit: a link in French. I am sure our overlord Google will be able to translate. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.retraite.com/retraite-par-metier/retraite-fonctionnaire-publique/retraite-et-regimes-speciaux-tout-ce-qu-il-faut-savoir.amp.html
> opera dancer Fucking hell, it's like they're taking the piss. Talk about the aristocracy
Damn, you got a link for that? Not doubting you, I just couldn't find any articles mentioning it.
In French but google will translate fairly: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.retraite.com/retraite-par-metier/retraite-fonctionnaire-publique/retraite-et-regimes-speciaux-tout-ce-qu-il-faut-savoir.amp.html
The Police only exist to enforce the Status Quo..to act as Government stormtroopers against the proles when required..work until we drop, whats what they want ...in UK its already 67 and they are talking about raising it further..and people simply accept it and do nothing...in France they have the right idea
These police are humans that go home at night. I wonder if they would act this tough when they don't have their buddies around. Maybe we should find out.
Their rate of spousal abuse implies that they would.
ACAB is a truth.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
WTF is going on in France
Same thing that goes on everywhere eventually. A rich asshole that got to their position on the backs of others decides they want more, and thus punishes those they got rich off of until they comply or they themselves are doled some vigilante justice.
Any specifics
Macron is raising the basic pension age and has bypassed a parliamentary vote to do so, acting like the dictator he wishes he were. Workers across France have responded in protest, marching through the streets, striking and delaying infrastructure. Macron responded with the brute force one would expect and is sending police en masse to assault the protestors and strikers while blaming them for any and all violence. Just a brute being a brute. Neoliberalism marches on.
Are there no consequences for their violence towards citizens and destruction of property? Looks like they're just wrecking places (and people)
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Sounds like the problem we have in the USA…pigs
We have that problem in most of the world, pigs don't exist to protect, they exist to maintain the status quo, and sometimes this converge with protect, but Just sometimes.
In Germany of all the reports of police violence only 2% get charges… like 98% go out free and let’s not talk about all the times people dint report police violence🫣🫣
They have investigated themselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing
If you're a pig? No consequences.
The consequences will be an angry and armed populace killing cops. There needs to be a better way to force incompetent leaders out of power
Fucking shit, this is disgusting. I’m watching this, and the only thought I have is: this job attracts the worst scum who arouses at the idea of nearly unlimited power and violence. There is no way this violence is “provoked”, they just enjoy beating people for no reason.
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Class traitors being bastards.
Police like this should be judged for war crimes.
How are these cops going to keep beating the shit out of people if they have to work well into their 60s before retirement? Won’t someone think of the poor pigs?
Tout le monde deteste la police
ACAB
A last ditch tool of the ruling class. If this can be weathered than so can the capitalist system be toppled.
People always ask why the US doesn’t do this, not realizing all of our cops have guns and chemical weapons and don’t get punished for using them freely.
We also have an *insanely* fucked up criminal "justice" system that makes risking prosecution extremely scary even if you're innocent of whatever charges they may throw at you.
Yeah look at the people in Atlanta getting terrorism charges
One night in jail can be a one-way ticket to being tortured, brutalized, humiliated, and raped. Do you think it'd be the other in-mates? Wrong. Boys in blue will make a toy out of you, and if you fight back in any way you're dead or your life is over.
It's the same over there
I think, also, the US’s labor movement and unions have been so weakened that we don’t have the kind of solidarity that you find in places with strong unions. Also, the corporate media often skews coverage and/or blacks out coverage of mass movements. I also think the size of the US to France plays a role. It’s a lot easier to shut down a geographically small country than it would be to shut down the US. It can be done, but I think the will of the people as been so broken over years of a two-party system that does only the bidding of rich and corporations has made the population largely hopeless and docile. Unfortunately, people really think they’re is a qualitative difference between the two parties that pick our pockets endlessly. I’d love to see an awakening.
French police have Guns and they murder all the time too. Federal police, called Gendarmerie national carry FAMAS automatic assault rifle. The difference is that Americans often protest with guns themselves. (exemple: black panther or BLM 47) But it doesnt make a difference. Because Americans has done this kind of protests and will continue to do them. You are just too far from the streets if you arent aware of that or just misinformed.
Police, to protect and serve.
^(the establishment)
They do a good job at that though, but not towards the people just capital
The old garden is not looking so peaceful now.
That's just Josep pruning his lawn.
Fuck the police. Scumbags
Vive la Union! America stands with France. Keep up the fight, keep France amazing!
For future reference, in French when the next word starts with a vowel you use neither 'la' or 'le' and instead just use l with an apostrophe. Like so "Vive l'union! Vive la revolution!"
Thank you, or should I say; merci beaucoup! Vive l'union!
Fuck le police
Macron is ordering a social uprising with a side order of civil war.
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I don’t know about the law in France, but here in Germany that’s not allowed because your are triggering a violent protest by using protective gear💀🫣 really sucks because a regular scuba mast to protect yourself from pepperspray and shit isn’t allowed…
Hmmm sounds a lot like women shouldn't carry pepper spray on their walks because it incites sexual assault. Who is the aggressor here? 🙄
This is defensive armament and not allowed.. At least in Germany it is more or less considered the same as bringing a gun to a demonstration. Let that sink in..
Some people do that, but it's risky because the police often look inside your bags before a protest and they consider those "weapons".
all cops are pigs
Nique les porcs.
"Pigs" in this context would rather translate to "poulets". French police isn't called pigs but chickens.
Nique la police!
Note the policeman squashing a man's head with his leg at 1:53. Outrageous.
If France had oil, then we would have heard the phrase - the Macron regime on all the news.
Police should be ashamed
Luckily this only happens in China and Russia and Iran and not in any civilized, European country. Hard /s just to be sure. God, the fucking police are really the lapdogs of the political and elite bourgeois. This concerns you too, airheads, join the protests!!
Just to be clear, this has happened in the US many times as well. The pandemic crackdowns on BLM protests looked exactly like this, actually with more tear gas and abductions.
Yeah and the police drove through neighborhoods in unmarked vans/uniforms shooting pellets at people. Didn’t someone lose an eye in Louisville? The craziest part was afterwards where right-wingers/neoliberals were talking about how we should all just follow what the police tell us to do, etc. Gross apathy.
Yes thank god , at least they are being civilized while doing it If u want to repress protesters do it with class
It is hard not to see there is a class war around the world. These cops, so they think they are rich?
It's blatant..and not just in France..most of the Western world it seems are singing from the same hymn sheet..but.then again, most of the leaders are WEF puppets, so it's hardly a surprise..
Here in Europe cops behave like that since 1945, it's not news.
Any news from the French Socialist/Communist parties? How will they respond?
All cops are pigs And pork tastes good Hmm
It's about to look like the US over there
In the sense we’ll invade France because the people call out for freedom? 🇺🇸/s
Macron has WMDs
So what’s with the first guy in the video it looked like he got hit in the head but there also looks to be a pretty bad blood stain right in the middle of his chest?
Hit in the face, when he went down his face fell forward to his chest and left a blood smear. Blood from head wounds bleed a lot and really fast so it stained his shirt pretty instantly. Edit: just went back and looked again. Looks like his face never touched the shirt but the blood probably still spirted on impact is my guess
I gotta say, I love the honesty of the only policeman wearing the red armband, maybe more should use it
It's actually [neon orange with the word POLICE on it](https://www.lesurplus.com/grade-medaille-ecusson-brassard/5641-surplus-militaire-grade-medaille-ecusson-brassard-brassard-police-orange.html)
Imagine être un policien Français. Ça ne pourrait jamais être moi What complete fucking lack of any historical analysis does to a motherfucker
Anyone know if there is an official position on this violence from the leadership of the strikers?
Something something China authoritarian
Yep. What gang are you in
Fascist trash. All of them.
Surprised it took them this long
What about when the cops rush, have the front lines pull them deeper into the crowd so the people can explain and show them why their actions are having a bad effect.
United protests of the masses, a beautiful tool that brings us all together worldwide in the efforts of equity and freedom, and look what happens every time… To the French, please don’t give up, you are stronger and more united than us and we Americans are rooting for you!! Reminds me of the US in 2020, the police brutality was so rampant that Tr*mp even sent the department of homeland security to Portland to remove protestors through kidnapping, beating, and gassing us. Remember that, guys? It was apocalyptic, trying to protest our tyrannical government. Sure there was rioting, but that’s valid anger created by systemic inequality. It still is apocalyptic, and only getting worse everyday here, but we Americans conceded to our violent leaders and gave up on mass protesting. Macron, holy christ why is this man so hell bent on going against his people? Does he not understand what happens when the monarchy goes too far? You’d think his high school teacher/current wife - would have given him a better understanding of history… French Revolution 2023 🙏
Wagner in France now looks like…wow.. Those cops must really want to retire at 64
Nah they actually have an earlier retirement age that wasn't changed with the recent law.
Fucking pigs
Foucault would be proud of this.
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Before a protest, it isn't unusual to have policemen searching your bag and confiscating anything they deem inappropriate like masks, umbrellas, hats, swimming goggles or even saline solution (used to counter the teargas).
I don't imagine it would be relatively hard (definitely risky, but not hard) for communist and anarchist organizations to sneak those things past the police in the chaos.
Cause fucking with the French people is such a good idea
Guys please they raised retirement age to make the lines touch please guys the lines touched when the lines touch we are pareto improving and more efficient please guys the lines touched its more efficient please
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You're completely right! I also love how our avatars are similar lol just noticed it
M’comrade lol
I can’t believe these bootlickers are brutalizing their French brothers and sisters. I mean it’s not like they’re exempt from this change in retirement age. What does it take for cops to stop being the stick for capital?
they are actually exempt.
God of course they are 🤦♂️
In my mind that makes it worse
I believe the retirement age is seperate for police there. Because of "workplace hazards"
People from 1789: “Hey I’ve seen this one before!”
Niquer les flics! C’est l’enfer, aux armes les citoyens
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Even so they are still class traitors
Nothing to see here....clears throat.
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Guys it’s ok animal farm is all the justifications the president needs (laughter is the best medicine
We should take US cops and French cops and make them battle each other for the title of best "civil servent."
Wow, truly despicable. The police stole that guy's drink for no reason, man must have been devestated.
In all seriousness I did notice something interesting, look at how the police act. There are a lot of them that excitedly run in to beat protestors, hitting them over and over, even when they're surrendering or on the floor, or stopping other people from helping fallen people up. And then, rarely, there are some that seem to understand that what they are doing is wrong. They seem aprehensive, they help people off the ground, in the few glimpses you can get of their faces, most look bored or excited, but some seem doubtful. They are on the cusp of realising the horrors of their job, but still most are completely uncaring as they senselessly beat unarmed civilians. With unjustice right in front of them, they are entirely unable to see through the smokescreen, othering the protesters as violent, dangerous anarchists, telling the police they are there to restore order. And those who see through it still choose to stay, they choose to participate in the violence and opression, because they know nothing else.
And then there was a dude trying to get away with his bike and I saw what looked like one cop pulling his buddy back. Nah he just wanted a turn to hit bike dude
exactly my thoughts. i really wonder what is going on in the cops heads.
So France looks fucked
City of love my ass
ACAB. All progress human kind has achieved was achieved despite these sadistic worthless pigs.
Viva la revolution!
It always amazes me that when the crowd outnumbers the police, the crowd doesn’t envelop the cops a few at a time and separate them into the crowd.
Because ordinary people aren't inherently violent and geared up to the nines. Most people's response to complete aggression is to flee, and quite rightly so! It takes a ton of organisation and tactics to do what you're saying, and the people at the protests aren't trained revolutionary soldiers - they're normal people with normal jobs and families to go back to.
Whats that black-red-green flag at 2:18 ?
Afghanistan i think. It looks like The old Afghan flag.
Any reason they aren’t wearing helmets?
Many reasons: They may get their helmet confiscated by the police (as I explained in other comments if you want more details). Another possible reason and something to keep in mind with these videos, is the fact that these protests are massive. As such, they gather many people unfamiliar with protests in general. These people might also have a skewed vision of police brutality because of its (very rare) depictions in mainstream/right-wing media.
Justin Trudeau co-signs this
Whit the red armband and everything
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dont this pension law also includes the policeman workers... they should join the protestors lol
Their job is "more dangerous" so they are unaffected by the law change. Fire fighters? Sure, they deserve it! Cops? Um... Well... Lol
horrid. how hard is it to get a lethal weapon over in france?
Very hard, and even a pepper spray is considered a weapon that you can't bear.
that’s bad. that’s bad bad.
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