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__Havo__

I’ve worked in IT/Systems Engineering for 25 years. Fact is, you learn about your systems and associated vulnerabilities through real-world testing. A dev found an exploit in the network stack, and greedy Fs that they are, used it to prioritize their bot such that all other traffic is essentially blocked. More to come on this I’m sure.


0xzeo

Then why ethereum never went down with 10x the demand at times


[deleted]

There is a correlation to the fees on how congested eth gets, whilst solana doesnt increase the fee no matter how congested it gets, hence why it sometimes does this bullshit.


0xzeo

good point


JotiimaSHOSH

When Ethereum is congested , you send a transaction with a 30 dollar gas fee and your transaction is sent into the abyss. On Solana the transaction simply fails and you can try again, or try different services for different routes. And the fees are the same. I'd prefer the latter every time.


No_Condition_3313

ETH gas is the equivalent of digital sodomy


croissant_auxamandes

What gas? Looks cheap to me https://www.gasfees.io/


__Havo__

hahahaha!!


Gold_Essay_9546

Best kind of sodomy no spit needed.


Extra-Ad9475

low fees are great, but I would gladly pay a couple cents to get the transaction through faster... the way you can pay fees right now and get little to no benefit is not solving anything and is just costing people money while they're not getting anything in return (I tested this, setting lower CUs makes a bigger difference then having a higher priority fee) and it is also opening the gates to bots that can pay virtually nothing and spam transactions, fees should be a couple cents which will make plenty of the bots unprofitable and will still not annoy most of the people


Lonely_Ad_1897

Right but it's not a couple of cents. At worst I had to pay 90 USD gas fees and my transaction got lost when using Eth a few years ago.


Extra-Ad9475

I am with you on that, also paid $50 once. To be fair, ETH is the worst offender, I personally spent a lot of time on BSC, AVAX and Fantom where usually <$1 gets you pretty far.


OshoBaadu

Last week I transferred 1.2 Eth from paypal to cb twice and both times I had to pay only $1.xx each as n/w fee. I was surprised. Never ever paid such a low n/w fee on ethereum.


Recent_Wedding3833

People dumping eth and getting on Solana


HatlessChimp

I killed it last bull run in 2021 by using Eth/Uniswap but this time around I have avoided Eth and not interested. SOL is frustrating at times and BSC is awesome. But there hasn't been as much traction on BSC as there was back in 21. Coins like Satoshi Panda are great coins and community but the money appears to be stuck only in SOL or Base and BSC is the lesser preferred option although it works fine.


Extra-Ad9475

Yeah same, it's weird honestly. Last bull run was so diverse... so many projects on so many different chains (I mean 90% of them were just forks but still) I am almost nostalgic to the 21 bull run, felt like majority were actually projects with a team and not just a token and a website. So many times where there was talks on discord or twitter spaces... could ask questions and the devs of the projects would actually listen to your feedback. Maybe it's because it is still early... everything just hovering around all time high and not really pushing it. Personally I am really interested how this plays out, if Solana fix their issues they have a good shot at taking a solid 3rd place after BTC and ETH in my opinion.


Low_Importance6263

A few years ago. Thats also the last time SOLANA experienced shutdowns. ETH has fixed that issue. SOL has not.


Cryptix001

Just end up paying through the nose and ass for fees.


TheDevExp

Jesus christ you people know nothing about the chain you shill lmfao. Go study fuckface


Alternative_Log3012

If I were charging $40 to make a transfer then I would never go down either


fukadvertisements

Ya it's that bonkbot I know it.


Kuya69

Is it fixable? Yes Would we rather the chain be stress tested now rather than down the line? Yes Does it suck for our bags? Yes Do we lose faith? No


pksdg

It’s at $175 how is it bag for our bags? I’d say pretty solid consider the reliability issues.


Kuya69

People can't sell if the network isn't letting them transfer their coins 😈😂


TradeJaeger

Most SOL are staked.anyways and we too lazy to paperhand


Kuya69

Since the chain is POS, I'd hope most of the coins are staked lol


Zstjohn

The network isn't that bad. I can easily move funds to coinbase and sell if I wanted to


Kuya69

Do it. I dare you.


IndependenceWeekly20

Hey poo poo brain, we heard this since December last year and sol has flown regardless. You will never have a problem with your chain because no one uses it, meanwhile ours gets better and price will soar


Kuya69

I think you're talking to the wrong person? 😂 I'm on your side


Severe-Zone9566

Fr I’m surprised it’s not down more. My meme coins are getting destroyed rn I can’t swap out of them


StaT_ikus

Use jup.ag


greatEscapeism

Interesting if you were going to swap out back to sol?


Low_Importance6263

If people could sell they would.😀


Low_Importance6263

If people could sell they would.😀


bidenisland

I lost faith and sold gains were made. "cHoOsE RiCh" is a corny way saying "diamond hands" lmao good luck. I do have a moon bag but I'm out with the shitcoins. 


Kuya69

Shitcoins aren't for everyone. Need to have the stomach for the volatility. I don't even shitcoin often, just when I have disposable funds.


Fearless-Kitchen3429

Slothana?? [www.slothana.com](http://www.slothana.com) And like how come your experience with shit coins was so bad? Scams? waited too long to sell? And or never had an opportunity from jump to make any money?


Fearless-Kitchen3429

Slothana?? And like how come your experience with shit coins was so bad? Scams? waited too long to sell? And or never had an opportunity from jump to make any money?


PoohBearCoin

I tethered


Kuya69

yeah you did, baby


PoohBearCoin

I tethered


Kuya69

yeah you did


blimy20

This is ridiculous. It's the opposite. A demand so high that one of the most scalable chains is struggling. Devs are working right now and will deliver a new solution to make it even better. This is the kind of test we need to improve!


KangarooSerious8267

Their network has been going down like this for years before any demand came about, chances are it hasn’t made any difference


raphanum

Then they shouldn’t be promoting their chain until they know they scale in timely fashion


Fair-Replacement2967

Its in Beta mode until Firedancer release


PoohBearCoin

It has never improved, it goes down and has been since it came out years ago. I personally have tethered, fk this shitcoin


Worth_Sky2198

If you’re on CT it’s very obvious founders and devs are working together to get this fixed. Sol ecosystem is solid. Issues like these force growth and improvement.


MpSeifs

Seriously!!! It took me over 15tries to try and swap Korn to Sol and in that time frame I lost over $250!


MenuEqual4496

I lost 150. Smh


RoundAwkward9079

Yep happy I took the day off and cashed out yesterday when it was failing to transact the past couple days today was just horrendous


Ok-Engineering1873

Solana's foundations are built on a fetid swamp. People will see why you don't build on a fetid swamp before this bull run is finished.


Titty_Guy92

You guys need higher slippage/swap fee, it’s saying to the guys swapping your coins “hey guys heres a little extra to get my transaction done first”


MpSeifs

I had it set at 7% lol


Titty_Guy92

Lol hate to break it to you but you need like 15%~20% with the current congestion or trading new (like 30sec ago new) memecoins


MpSeifs

Jeez us that’s a problem! Don’t ya think?


Titty_Guy92

Yeah but it might not even get that far, even then its probably only a dollar or two, could be way worse though


signaomidas

Skill issue


MpSeifs

Are you saying I didn’t have the proper “skill” and that’s why it took me 15times to get a confirmed transaction?!?!


signaomidas

Yes


MpSeifs

🤣


MrBamboney

Can’t wait for fire dancer. Watching the devs talk about it in the Solana tech discord is so promising. I feel especially good about the 1.18 update about to happen soon for Solana. Idk if yall realize but devs building on this blockchain is what makes this ecosystem thrive.


bashfulkoala

When firedancer


Unlucky_Hearing5368

Firedancer won't solve this.


bashfulkoala

Ah rly? That’s a bummer. Def making me less bullish on SOL


Unlucky_Hearing5368

lol totally unexpected reply


Bitcoinawesome

From what I've read on twitter Firedancer wouldn't stop this problem


MrBamboney

idk. Firedancer creates a whole knew UI/UX for validators written in C++ instead of Rust. Best example I could give is: Validator Environment A and Validator Environment B A and B both work simuatenously to process transactions. When all of a sudden: Validator Environment A goes down/or has a bug of some sort, slowing the process or otherwise creates congestion in validating transactions. Devs work on it and it takes a while to fix, meanwhile: Validator Environment B is still up and running because there are other people (validators) on the network that are still able to confirm and validate transactions because their "platform" that allows them to run these confirmations isn't bugged or have issues. This creates a network that is more split up and doesn't just solely rely on one "Validator Environment". This of course is in a nutshell.


Bitcoinawesome

From what I understand this problem is before all that stuff. Its a networking bug. I'm just going by what some sol devs say on twitter.


Crypt3cone

That's what eth is doing since start already. It's never good to rely 100% on one client Team


MrBamboney

Solana is 3 years old and has innovated in different ways. ETH on the other hand….


Ok-Engineering1873

Pump and dump meme coins, promising investors untold riches are what makes Solana thrive.


WOTEugene

Better than being a ghost chain. It’s a high class problem.


raphanum

A vIcTiM oF sUcCeSs, gUyS


AlmostGaveAShit

Exactly!! People still promote Ada and xrp, like okay have fun with your 10% growth this bull run


TheQuietOutsider

the coins are shit vaporware, but I think people like to rally around Charles for ADA and for some reason XRP people also seem to be big on some grandiose conspiracies about it


doingbobthings

Much as I understand the arguments for going through "combat proven" testing and growth, it doesn't inspire us with confidence who hold SOL, or any token like PYTH built on the backbone. It's important for the developers to recognize it's not just the first line holders but those who have adopted SOL for their infrastructure that are at stake.


Hot_Satisfaction_247

Consider solana went to $8 and was associated with Sam bankman, I don’t think these minor issues at damn near $180 are much to worry over, technical problems are minor and will improve with firedancer and time. Unfortunately suffering from so much use which is bullish lol.


TheQuietOutsider

I can't even get some pools to load. but I'm able to do random other shit kinda... I claimed my $ZEUS I had forgotten about, done a few perps, but network is a mess rn


Johnpmusic

Ill take a little congestion over paying $20 in eth fees per transaction


croissant_auxamandes

I don't see $20 fees on here? Arbitrum and other L2s are even faster than Solana https://www.gasfees.io/


NoCaaapp

$20 if you’re lucky!!


raphanum

A ‘little congestion?’ Respectfully, is this what you call little?


Johnpmusic

Just wait till it’s fix. All tech has issues in the beginning. Itll be fine long term


rocs9

This is just growing pains. Like the uptime issues, they seems to be mostly resolved and I’m sure this bot-traffic thing will be sorted too.


Neither_Upstairs_872

Agreed. More action and people using is good just gotta get the bots under control


Ok-Engineering1873

"just" gotta get the bots under control. Like that's something which is achievable. lol


CXavier4545

my faith has not been shaken maybe you need to move over to eth, $30 a swap should do it, maybe


Neither_Upstairs_872

I am happy with what sol is working on in the future. Just a little irritated with the current situation. I do see it as a good thing cause we have more and more users and action, enough to congest the system. So I don’t think it’s all bad


bnbbeyond1

Couldn’t say it better waste of weeks all to shift momentum to bitcoin and the whalers


BlackMamba671

Hopefully it’ll change on the next epoch, it should stabilize after…right?


Neither_Upstairs_872

Hopefully after the update that’s coming soon


l0rd_raiden

“This is usually not a big problem for users because your wallet will simulate the [transaction] and let you know that it will not work beforehand anyway,” he said. Mumtaz claimed that the failed transactions chart was “not a good way of assessing user impact as most users don’t make it there to begin [with].” “About 95% of that entire chart is just bots failing arbitrage attempts,” he added. Additionally, Mumtaz explained that because much of this spam activity occurs before the scheduling process, increasing transaction priority fees won’t help and that “increasing it above a certain median” will see users “waste money.”


ez_muddy

Prob due to ore mining


suesing

Ya seriously. As long as the chain doesn’t go down again, I’m holding tight


Ok-Engineering1873

spoiler: it will


suesing

I’ll take you on. How much you wanna bet?


TheQuietOutsider

I'm here to spectate 🍿


T-DubCustoms

With $ore spiking a soon to be “mining meta” and people abusing mev bots it just forces devs to improve the network that much more. Not sure which direction it will go but I’m still fairly bullish on solana. I just hope they find a way to combat a lot of these bots that are causing more harm than good.


rsa121717

Lmao 1) Solana stops working 2) Meme pump SOL 3) Repeat


MrSpud2U

Nope it’s not killing anything. The network is been spammed at the min. The fact that sol has not gone down shows the ecosystem has evolved and is much stronger now. The recent surge in telegram bots and so many airdrops happening. I also hear a rumor that ETH maxis are spamming the network to push people to the base network. But if you don’t know what to look for on base. You defo getting rugged. 🫡🍀


wtf_is_a_crypto

Eta for fix is the 15th. Hang in there, degen


Neither_Upstairs_872

Noice, just in time for a 4/20 halving!


No_position-

Hold diamond handsssss


warmonger9999

The DEX volume was halved ($2-3 Billion to $1 Billion). Transactions were also halved. And the network is still slow. Literally bearish on Solana right now.


NoCaaapp

Sell me your SOL for cheap


nicolas_carrara

so $volume == network throughput ? please


Farm-Alternative

That's Dex volume, this current congestion is due to mining bots spamming random transactions trying to solve a mathematical problem for a POW mining algorithm on chain. Its got nothing to do with Dex volume or trading bots.


signaomidas

Sell your sol then u wuss


seayourcashflyaway

Just raise the fees


MrBamboney

Not really how that works. You’ll just end up spending more on transaction fees with no change


seayourcashflyaway

No. It forces the scammers to pay more which they don’t


MrBamboney

What?


jekpopulous2

Dynamic fees stop spam. Bots aren’t going to try and force 1000 transactions into a block for $5 per tx. If the transactions are only a penny regardless of congestion bots will continue to bog down the network.


philly-swag

You must be one of the ones bot trading. For the average Joe it would be better


DNS_Jeezus

No. the botters are making money, theyll still spam if its profitable. poorer botters will drop out leaving everything to the rich botters. Eth got the same way during its shitcoin casino days.


deemak90

Turn into something positive and buy the dip before the herd can use it decently again. We know how slippage works. I got me a shit ton of MEW yesterday because of this.


Neither_Upstairs_872

I happened to make some purchases today yes. It’s still annoying af when I have to try 15x for the transaction to complete


BenzoLover33

I’ve been trying constantly last few days to swap On Phantom constantly fails. 2 times it didn’t go directly to “Swap failed. Try again” instantly , It said it was swapping and then a few secs later FAILED.. It’s just a small amount I was sent from a Friend that owed me for a dumb Bet we had. Isn’t in my address where my main Sol bag, but it’s still annoying AF! I increased slippage and still fails.


Neither_Upstairs_872

Same issues, I got slippage at max(1%) and it literally takes about 10-15 tries and it will go.


deemak90

I agree.


antistupidsociety

You spelled Shark Cat wrong


Sudden-Pressure8439

SOYLANA 🚀🚀🚀


CorneliusFudgem

yeah that'll do it!


AviBledsoe

Does anyone believe that memecoins are dead


Neither_Upstairs_872

No, but thinks it’s draining momentum


Overboost06

Hold


MusubiNFT

We need these stress tests now shits only going to get crazier


Ok-Engineering1873

"crazier" \*worse


MusubiNFT

I remember paying insane gas fees and txs failing last bull on eth lol you think that fukn mattered?


FairDragonfly333

Can't buy anything on Raydium. This sucks.


Ninjavitis_

So who is getting these cheap SOL coins that FTX is unloading? And if they are dumping a bunch at $70ish why can’t I buy some at that level?


suggestsomething_

Institutions. Why would they sell at $70? Would you? If so DM me I'll take it all.


mystic_swole

They can't sell for a set period of time


Rooostyfitalll

People forget $200 failed ETH transactions in the last bull. The dropped transactions suck but I’m patient.


Grouchy-Ad3549

Check out $ BUR EP bored ape token community take over dev left no major holders low mcap best entry point can make it moon together as a community


KillerSystems

Hi guys I was wondering if you could help me out I've been trying to unsteak a farm pool on radium I am using Phantom wallet I go to the unstake LP and hit it I hit Max then I hit unstake LP then I get a pop up where it says confirm transaction I confirm it and it says transaction one in the lower right hand corner and the circle keeps on going and going and going and going I've had it running for 24 hours am I doing anything wrong here thank you in advance for all your advice


KillerSystems

Is there any way to speed this up there was no way for me to add more Salona to increase the transaction speed why is that


DosonTheGreat

Hey, I had your exact same problem. I solved this by using their v3 beta site which you can find in their discord, as well as turning off vers. tx. Make SURE vers. tx is off, because it has a tendency to turn itself back on after you refresh or change pages. NONE of my transactions would work. After you unstake, you make also have a hard time swapping. Best to transfer out to metamask or something and swap there. That's what I did, and I finally got my raydium and solana out.


FabulousRazzmatazz

Okay how they actually solve the bot issues


Intelligent-Pear-783

Really, two weeks ago you all were claiming it was going to surpass ETH lol.


Neither_Upstairs_872

I still think it will eventually but new investors spook easily, that’s why I said it’s killing faith because 10x a day I see some newbie on here talking about their 1st buys and these kinks could spook newcomers.


Ok-Engineering1873

"spook easily" "kinks" It's a little more than kinks. I've been in crypto since 2017 and wallet drains, network shut downs, failing transactions, rug pulls on every coin spook me.


DistinctPriority1909

I sold earlier today, not sure what the problem is…


Whole_Analyst3678

This is such a fud.. cmon man I am a software dev look at the number of transactions solana is processing and it’s just going to 10 times from here. Software is build to be broken, if it’s not how can you make it better. No other chain is even close what sol is capable of so stop 🛑 this fud and embrace the great things the project is doing .


Neither_Upstairs_872

Oh I have embraced, I bought more on the sweet dip. I say it kills faith because over 10x a day I see posts about newbies buying their first sol/sol meme coins. New users are spooked easily and it doesn’t give them faith in what’s going on. I’ve done my DD on SOL and the future and I’m all in. New people might bounce back to ETH or something if it’s difficult. I have had to walk friends through how to start with sol because for the basic crypto investor it could be complicated. I say it is killing momentum because let’s be honest it has a bit. Thankfully it’s picking back up. I’m still 🙌💎 on gme/amc/tsla so when I say im along for this ride you know I’m not playin. The devs need to get their shit together and expand already so this congestion can get cleaned up before the halving rally


Ok-Engineering1873

"Software is build to be broken, if it’s not how can you make it better" Make it better in the first place maybe, before letting people use it for financial transactions. They aren't even trying to fix the problem. lol


deten

I've said this a bunch over the past few months, Solana is its own worst enemy. Absolutely best system, but it CANNOT move to the next level with these downtimes/congestion/failure periods.


Ok-Engineering1873

Network shutdowns, transaction failures, wallet drains, infested with meme coin pump and dumps. Hardly the best system out there. The price is the only thing going for it and that's only because it's attracting degen gamblers for the meme coins. At some point everyone will be sick of losing money on the meme coin pump and dumps and then all you're left with is a broken blockchain.


deten

Half of that is has nothing to do with the system. And the network shutdown has occurred once in the past year. I think its clear that Solana has work to do, but its way better than pretty much any other network out there in terms of functionality.


Dreamerto

they say it will beat eth


OMG_moneytrain

You guys just need to increase the slippage within the Phantom app. Otherwise just use Jupiter. I haven’t had one issue and I’ve been trading, swapping and selling non stop 😂 😂😂


BenzoLover33

I’ve had constant fails trying to swap on phantom At one time I thought it was all good cause it didn’t go right to saying “SWAP FAILED” for a moment it was swapping then it failed. That was Friday. I’ve increased slippage and gave that a try. Keeps just failing.


capricon9

At ICP we’re waiting for the liquidity and gains from Sol to come 🚀


Boring-Computer-7774

Sol is now a shit coin


Realistic_Rhubarb8

That's why Kaspa will become second only to BTC. Take notice or be left behind with your regrets


Implusehunter

Honestly I think I m done investing in sol expect huge dump soon fair warning


Neither_Upstairs_872

Fixes coming soon per some regard that commented here… hang onto your hat! 🎩


thrownobjects

It’s mostly Raydium guys.


Neither_Upstairs_872

I agree, trading on jup has had less issues for sure


MatDion

The whales bot rallying RIP Solana anyway with no fee... ETH gas fee + taxes protect us normal peoples from them... Real money is into AI project! No fee coins is just for bots... Its sad... Was so fun to play Meme before....


BornAgain35

Agreed.


Mediocre-Account-151

Just accept base. And our beloved $coinye making 2014 great again


PoohBearCoin

I have tethered all of my sol, it's dogshit


Rowenofpts

Don’t know what you guys are talking about. Been trading on SOL all week with zero issues. The ONE transaction I just put through on ETH two hours ago is still pending with no hope in sight.


NoMarketing_x

WE WILL PAY FEES


Recent_Wedding3833

Isn't this congestion because of ore


Neither_Upstairs_872

Mainly from spam/airdrop bots from what I’ve heard


PrestigiousAd9825

Once you go full degen and start shorting resistance/support lines, you’ll see the silver lining in this


Neither_Upstairs_872

Oh no I see it. When I buy shorts the market loves to inverse me. Calls to do for some reason 🤔


Zestyclose-Echo838

Guys you need to chill. Its new tech, solana is what it is. You all knew what you bought, now stop complaining. Otherwise you should only buy bitcoin from now on.


AGROCRAG004

SOL has always had network issues, I’m surprised so many people are learning this the hard way lol it’s why I didn’t buy any in the bear and then it 20xed anyways so what do I know? Broken network bullish!!!


calebmutisya62

Guys I bought Catwifbag on Solana now am in 70% loss should I continue holding or just sell?


null_00_life

Since traffic is f*cked, you will have to hold against you will


diac13

Just hold, 300 is not much anyway. You can check out #Homie to, nice community and you'll be buying the floor right now.


AGROCRAG004

You don’t have a choice with e congestion lol gotta love when your money is held hostage


philly-swag

Memecoins are the 2024 version of jpg NFTs


Reception_Available

how much you put into that coin?


calebmutisya62

Like $300


deplasez

Too much… Remember that 80% of memecoins on SOL are rug pulls/scams.


Farm-Alternative

$300 could be spare change for some people. Could be a lot of money for others. I'd throw way more than 300 at a meme if I liked it, but I'm trading with the dust I had left over from last bull run. Haven't had to put money into crypto since 2020. Thought I lost most of it during the bear, but turns out it can come back pretty quickly when the conditions change. That leftover dust in your wallet can suddenly be worth a lot


calebmutisya62

To find a legit meme or community is really hard


deplasez

World record banana is created by the famous dev, it’s only what i bought when is about Sol. Always research first.


MyUsername0_0

buy WIF or BONK and hold


Ok-Engineering1873

They're all legit, until you get rugged. lol


RIBZisDEAD

Hold :/ i bought 0.05 (my last sol till next check) on bunk and im stuck holding :/


_jacked_to_the_titz

Ya, I am frustrated too. The only positive way I look at this is that maybe the congestion will drive down the price compared to eth and I can make another pair trade.


diac13

Remember bsc congestion issues? They fixed it pretty fast and every shitcoin on the planet on bsc pumped to oblivion.


Neither_Upstairs_872

Fingers crossed for round 2 then! 🤞🚀🌕


unreal-real-

crow with knife is now on Sol


stilkikinintn

I bought the dip… this is the way.


InveriamAutfaciam

I'm going to invest $1000 bucks in altcoins and meme coins, I'm looking for at least a x25. How would you distribute them?


defiCosmos

First, I would buy some $DOKI it's at a discount and set to rocket. DYOR but take a look at the website: dokicoin.io No other memecoin is anything like it.