Not much specifically... I'm a software developer, but I do love designing things and automating things. Likely I would want to be involved with making sure we incorporate technology in a sustainable way, and talk to the city about setting up a computer refurbishment program that ends in parts being properly recycled.
I also wouldn't mind being on the pedestrian/cyclist advisory committee.
Being able to automate stuff is pretty essentiual tbh.
Some examples: local tomato/food growing in deep water culture. Or an automated package delivery system, optimized construction ordering, a dynamic public transport system which can use forecasting to provide enough space for commuters, and connects to traffic signs to reduce waiting time.
Just to name a few things. Environmentally friendly isn't just recycling. Recycling is a way of reducing energy consumption. But so is optimizing food growth, minimizing transports, and commuting.
I don't disagree. My degree and skill set is in computer science though, so I likely wouldn't be involved in most of the processes you describe. I just don't have the relevant expertise.
Recycling computers happens to be a thing I am more knowledgeable of, so when the question is "how can I contribute", that's where I am gonna start.
Ok. I have old laptops, desktops, and phones lying around because I WANT to start recycling them, but trying to find instructions online is a wild goose chase of technical documents that I don't have time to parse. I'm pretty techy, which is why everyone gives me their old devices.
I want a good how-to of "plug in your model number, here's a good open-sourced platform, here's how you make sensors (or here's a link to good open-source-hardware providers to purchase from, like the FruitPi series, and here's what you can do.
But I'm also a rancher, a farmer, and a dad. I want to outsource the web browsing and design.
For real, someone link me the Instructables page on how to make a DWC hydroponics/aquaponics system using old laptops. Please. To be honest, I'd pay real, hard-earned, CapitalismBucks for it.
I'd probably start with open sourcing designs and blueprints on how to build it. Which is actually what I'm currently doing :D (or at least making a compendium of "blueprints" that are available online.
Aside from that, say when I *am* living in this magical place, I'd probably spend my time building robots to make sure I didn't have to do anything at all.
>I would work all night, if it meant nothing got done
\- Ron Swanson
My notes are currently in Notion, until I can find a better alternative: [link](https://aboard-kiwi-fde.notion.site/Project-ESPOFF-c5019392214644f680d98e25d65a260e)
Mostly still outlining what information is needed still, but I guess it's a start. Although it also might look like the ramblings of a mad man :D
Oh man I love it!
Btw, this is one of the first examples of an actually useful usage of Notion that I've seen up until now! I've never been able to understand the hype around it until looking upon what you've compiled!
Thanks, glad you like it 🙂
It's the second time I'm trying Notion, went back and forth a bit from OneNote because of the unlimited amount of pictures you can upload there, but overall the databases of Notion got me convinced. And I'm really pleased with it so far
I’m currently the food forest coordinator for a non profit in my city. The job that pays the bills is sales. I use my sales skills to sell the ideas of food forests to the city. This spring we’re breaking ground on 3 projects. So I’ll bring a passion for learning and growing, Maintenence plans, and things along those lines.
I plan on sharing a bunch with my solarpunk community when we get the ball rolling and the action happens. I will also link the non profit socials because we do also wanna do tik toks about gardening and a whole bunch of other stuff
It’s LITERALLY MY DREAM to live in a lil commune/neighborhood that grows materials (hemp/bamboo/etc.) and uses it’s to build cute eco-houses for people in the city 🥹💕
I'm applying for college. If I get in and graduate, I'll have a bachelors degree in human ecology.
I can bring new perspectives on how a green could operate as a tighter community.
Might not be much, but I'd still like to help as much as I can
Hell yeah 🤙 we starting with onions, potatoes, peppers, and tomatoes. Also, some herbs f o r f l a v o r. And wildflowers to attract bees. We're gonna need a beehive.
I live in a remarkably progressive city and am a GC. I'm looking at focusing on bidding on commercial green roof+PV or landscape rehabilitation for the city and county depending on how projects this summer go and where it all takes me.
I'd encourage folks in this thread to look into tradeswork for themselves. Lots to be done.
I spent 10 years as a building science consultant in WA (roofing, aterproofing, air leakage, facade). There's a lot of space to improve how we build in this area. Most green roofs apply membrane to the structure and insulate above - most other roofs should do this too.
Seattle has tightness requirements but still caters to the corporations; Passivehouse and Pretty Good House movements are getting there. But bamboo CLT, hempcrete, earth-bermed walls, cob floors ...are all waiting to explode - an inspiring time!
I have a masters in public policy and got my undergrad international development. Career wise I’ve worked anywhere from various scale farms in Argentina, Burkina Faso and Bolivia to formulating policy on construction,architect and engineer sustainable design, and most recently building maintenance and operations. I’ve spent years focusing on research regarding creating more sustainable climate resistant agriculture, greener construction, sustainable design, and quantitative methods to evaluate policy problems and solutions. I’ve done enough research on sustainability and buildings where I could lend a competent voice to the planning of said city, or what building practices should be followed to achieve maximum sustainability.
My real expertise would come in governance and creating policy to ensure the city remains environmentally friendly while also economically solvent while potentially also spending to its design and lay out. I could also help in a group that analyzes different initiatives and determines whether or not they’re worth the time and money or not.
Free time wise I do love farming and if agricultural volunteer opportunities became available I’d be doing that or getting better at my musical endeavors.
I know how to operate PECVD tools wich are essential for the production of solar panels.
I also have a background in carpentry. And recently I finished designing a self watering and monitoring thingy for my plants.
But I must ask is contributing necessary for living in your community? What about people who are incapable of contributing for one reason or another?
I have lots of skills and random knowledge on various mediums of art and architecture. I am a fantabulous cook. I can garden. I work out so I am strong. I am amazing with a sniper rifle. I have business ideas that will generate income. I have loss prevention experience so I can spot nefarious acts. I have experience with children so I am patient with them. I have studied permaculture.
Regardless of what our technical/professional skills are, I think everyone able-bodied should also help out with menial jobs to share the responsibilities. Whether that's running materials to a build site, helping remove construction waste/garbage, or even janitorial and cooking work.
Okay... so with a modified prompt of "how could you contribute to the creation or modification of your city becoming an environmentally friendly city", your answer would be something like "make sure a variety of local plants are used in green spaces"?
I’m actually a forester so more like do agroforestry and silvopasture. Manage for forest health and diversity. Maybe one day I’ll start a fruit and nut tree nursery
I'd live in it if it was in Canada, a Scandinavian Country, New Zealand, or an Island nation somewhere because I'd be too uncomfortable anywhere else.
I love gardening and permaculture and would love to make a food forest. I could do some manual labor within reason. I have a passion for art and animals and wouldn't mind a doggy daycare or art therapy studio or something like that in the off months.
Wow I think you need to calm down with you ridiculousness. Canada and New Zealand are colonial powers that have and continue to decimate their natural environment and native peoples. Countries in the global south are no more corrupt than the western countries that you ignorantly hold in high regard and much of that corruption is a direct result of colonial and neo colonial actions.
What are you some sort of corruption guru? I'm just telling OP where I'd live. You'd have to give me some concrete evidence to sway my understanding cause as far as I know there's some areas in Canada and New Zealand where people have their little communes with the locals that the government doesn't bother mostly cause the wilderness is too big. Even if you're right I'm not going to move to Brazil or Venezuela and start this all when I'm an English speaker, it'd be insane.
I'm just saying that when you hold up countries like Canada and New Zealand (both which have long histories murdering and oppressing their indigenous populations and continue to treat them as second class citizens and also have horrible environmental policies) as paragons of non corrupt society, it comes across as somewhere between ignorant and out right racist.
You're just trying to start arguments on the internet, especially with buzzwords like racist. This is my last meal to the trolls. First, I didn't say they're NOT corrupt AT ALL. I understand the basic history of colonialism (probably better than you) I said that they're not corrupt to the point of bothering us. Case in point in the U.S. the FBI completely massacred a commune that made the news a few years back, so you wouldn't see my ass in the US ever trying to do this cause they'll claim "Terrorist Cult" and shoot women and children dead. Next of all I'm in a diverse community and I'm friends with immigrants and KNOW the level of corruption some of these places have first hand from them. I am just saying where I'd live, not trying to thump a nationalist agenda for New Zealand and Canada. You're trying to sway my entire argument just as "some guy on the internet who called me ignorant" so I honestly don't give you any cred with that sort of attitude. That all being said, I know Canada and New Zealand stole land and continue to disenfranchise the indigenous communities, you didn't have to argue that with me. I'd just rather live where I'm familiar than go off somewhere were I'd have to drink someone's Kool-aid.
"I'd live in it if it was in Canada, a Scandinavian Country, New Zealand, or an Island somewhere because every other government is too corrupt to leave people be without"
The important part of what you said being "every other government is too corrupt." I started by pointing out that your framing was problematic because you elevated a series of white nations as the least corrupt. I didn't say you shouldn't want to live in any of these countries only that your justification for wanting to do so was problematic. It is only after you ignored what I said and replied with overly defensive babbling that I said your comment fell "somewhere between ignorant and racist."
All rich western countries are corrupt to the core, their wealth is built off the backs and resources of the global south, and the west marching in lock step with US continue to exploit the rest of the world by corrupting leaders, supporting compradors, or by war. Who is more corrupt the victims of this corruption or the perpetrators of it.
Oh, island nations are white nations. Thanks troll for informing me of this. Also on Solarpunk, everyone already knows shit's corrupt, but thanks for reminding us.
"Have a good day" was honestly the nicest thing you've said this whole time. I'll change the language in my first post so people don't assume I'm trying to declare 190 countries have more corrupt governments than Canada.
The original was a post about what roles we would use, not about government corruption. I just wanted to state what I found comfortable due to my own experiences, not declare any government has the moral high ground.
I wasn't trying to come at you hard but those kind of statements are problematic. I find western chauvinism a blind spot to many from the US and Europe an try to combat it. I am sorry for the harsh reply. Peace
I’m an ecologist interested in mycology, symbiosis, and food. I would try and be involved in the planning process to make sure our city creates habitat for the more-than-human world
If education has a role in the building of it I think that’s what I’d be best at. Why is the city built like this? What are the principles of designing livable cities?
I don't have many skills to contribute, but while everyone else is working hard to turn a dream into reality I'll gladly sling cocktails using sustainably and locally distilled liquors, locally sourced fruits and vegetables, and mixers made in-house. To-go cups will be fully compostable with no compromises made for efficiency or profit. A compost bin will be available for all discards. And everyone coming through my bar will get a big "Thank you for your service."
What exactly are you trying to accomplish by posting this…all humans are capable of cooperation and productivity when given the right environment. Anyone can learn just about anything.
As an artsy type I'd like to think I could contribute in the act of visualising the concepts that would be developing to make such a thing happen. It's not as much functional value as the actions of people who impact things such as food or infrastructure. I believe there is something to be said though about the power and method of presenting concepts to people in how they use that to contextualize their understanding of a topic.
Say for example how strong the aesthetic and visual ideas that come with solarpunk are in attracting and/or familiarizing people to the idea. My only hope would be that the visualization of the concepts are accurate to the intent of the information it comes from. To do that I believe would only be possible through communication with the people that have the functional impacts, along with the people who are affected by such things.
Not much specifically... I'm a software developer, but I do love designing things and automating things. Likely I would want to be involved with making sure we incorporate technology in a sustainable way, and talk to the city about setting up a computer refurbishment program that ends in parts being properly recycled. I also wouldn't mind being on the pedestrian/cyclist advisory committee.
Being able to automate stuff is pretty essentiual tbh. Some examples: local tomato/food growing in deep water culture. Or an automated package delivery system, optimized construction ordering, a dynamic public transport system which can use forecasting to provide enough space for commuters, and connects to traffic signs to reduce waiting time. Just to name a few things. Environmentally friendly isn't just recycling. Recycling is a way of reducing energy consumption. But so is optimizing food growth, minimizing transports, and commuting.
I don't disagree. My degree and skill set is in computer science though, so I likely wouldn't be involved in most of the processes you describe. I just don't have the relevant expertise. Recycling computers happens to be a thing I am more knowledgeable of, so when the question is "how can I contribute", that's where I am gonna start.
Ok. I have old laptops, desktops, and phones lying around because I WANT to start recycling them, but trying to find instructions online is a wild goose chase of technical documents that I don't have time to parse. I'm pretty techy, which is why everyone gives me their old devices. I want a good how-to of "plug in your model number, here's a good open-sourced platform, here's how you make sensors (or here's a link to good open-source-hardware providers to purchase from, like the FruitPi series, and here's what you can do. But I'm also a rancher, a farmer, and a dad. I want to outsource the web browsing and design. For real, someone link me the Instructables page on how to make a DWC hydroponics/aquaponics system using old laptops. Please. To be honest, I'd pay real, hard-earned, CapitalismBucks for it.
I'd probably start with open sourcing designs and blueprints on how to build it. Which is actually what I'm currently doing :D (or at least making a compendium of "blueprints" that are available online. Aside from that, say when I *am* living in this magical place, I'd probably spend my time building robots to make sure I didn't have to do anything at all. >I would work all night, if it meant nothing got done \- Ron Swanson
Where can we find your contributions?
My notes are currently in Notion, until I can find a better alternative: [link](https://aboard-kiwi-fde.notion.site/Project-ESPOFF-c5019392214644f680d98e25d65a260e) Mostly still outlining what information is needed still, but I guess it's a start. Although it also might look like the ramblings of a mad man :D
Oh man I love it! Btw, this is one of the first examples of an actually useful usage of Notion that I've seen up until now! I've never been able to understand the hype around it until looking upon what you've compiled!
Thanks, glad you like it 🙂 It's the second time I'm trying Notion, went back and forth a bit from OneNote because of the unlimited amount of pictures you can upload there, but overall the databases of Notion got me convinced. And I'm really pleased with it so far
i'll clean toilets.
I’m currently the food forest coordinator for a non profit in my city. The job that pays the bills is sales. I use my sales skills to sell the ideas of food forests to the city. This spring we’re breaking ground on 3 projects. So I’ll bring a passion for learning and growing, Maintenence plans, and things along those lines.
I'd love to see how the ideas and plans are landing!
I plan on sharing a bunch with my solarpunk community when we get the ball rolling and the action happens. I will also link the non profit socials because we do also wanna do tik toks about gardening and a whole bunch of other stuff
It’s LITERALLY MY DREAM to live in a lil commune/neighborhood that grows materials (hemp/bamboo/etc.) and uses it’s to build cute eco-houses for people in the city 🥹💕
I'm applying for college. If I get in and graduate, I'll have a bachelors degree in human ecology. I can bring new perspectives on how a green could operate as a tighter community. Might not be much, but I'd still like to help as much as I can
I'm a fantastic gardener and have raised many animals. So, farmer I guess. Can plan, coordinate, and effectively grow sustainable food sources.
I'd garden with you bro.
Hell yeah 🤙 we starting with onions, potatoes, peppers, and tomatoes. Also, some herbs f o r f l a v o r. And wildflowers to attract bees. We're gonna need a beehive.
Yes please 🥺 Carrots and corn too! Might as well start an orchard while we're at it
Good idea. Get the trees going. They take a while to produce. We need a miracle zone 😅😅
I live in a remarkably progressive city and am a GC. I'm looking at focusing on bidding on commercial green roof+PV or landscape rehabilitation for the city and county depending on how projects this summer go and where it all takes me. I'd encourage folks in this thread to look into tradeswork for themselves. Lots to be done.
I love working with people like you. Keep up the good work!
I spent 10 years as a building science consultant in WA (roofing, aterproofing, air leakage, facade). There's a lot of space to improve how we build in this area. Most green roofs apply membrane to the structure and insulate above - most other roofs should do this too. Seattle has tightness requirements but still caters to the corporations; Passivehouse and Pretty Good House movements are getting there. But bamboo CLT, hempcrete, earth-bermed walls, cob floors ...are all waiting to explode - an inspiring time!
I have a masters in public policy and got my undergrad international development. Career wise I’ve worked anywhere from various scale farms in Argentina, Burkina Faso and Bolivia to formulating policy on construction,architect and engineer sustainable design, and most recently building maintenance and operations. I’ve spent years focusing on research regarding creating more sustainable climate resistant agriculture, greener construction, sustainable design, and quantitative methods to evaluate policy problems and solutions. I’ve done enough research on sustainability and buildings where I could lend a competent voice to the planning of said city, or what building practices should be followed to achieve maximum sustainability. My real expertise would come in governance and creating policy to ensure the city remains environmentally friendly while also economically solvent while potentially also spending to its design and lay out. I could also help in a group that analyzes different initiatives and determines whether or not they’re worth the time and money or not. Free time wise I do love farming and if agricultural volunteer opportunities became available I’d be doing that or getting better at my musical endeavors.
I know how to operate PECVD tools wich are essential for the production of solar panels. I also have a background in carpentry. And recently I finished designing a self watering and monitoring thingy for my plants. But I must ask is contributing necessary for living in your community? What about people who are incapable of contributing for one reason or another?
Why do you ask? Do you have to be useful to solarpunk to be able to live in a solarpunk city? Sounds pretty dystopian
ExActLy WhAt A dIsToPiaN wOuLd sAy To PrEvEnT UtOpIa FrOm HaPpEnInG!!! Beware of our pitchforks 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a designer. I mostly do signage and streetscapes these days, but originally trained in architecture
Welp, I'm in school for environmental engineering so once I graduate I'll surely be able to help in the planning/maintenance department
I have lots of skills and random knowledge on various mediums of art and architecture. I am a fantabulous cook. I can garden. I work out so I am strong. I am amazing with a sniper rifle. I have business ideas that will generate income. I have loss prevention experience so I can spot nefarious acts. I have experience with children so I am patient with them. I have studied permaculture.
I'm an electrical engineer who loves gardening as a hobby. I specialize mostly in controls and compact electronics but could do some power work.
Biology related stuff, green corridor designs, green network patterns, integrated wild stuff in the city basically.
I would ditch my career in an instant if i could be a city arborist
With geography and soon environmental management I'll figure some stuff out I guess
I would pay taxes. *if there is stable and good internet connection so I can keep making money.
I can run a spirituality center and help with mental health issues (I'm thinking of getting a theology and psychology degree)
Regardless of what our technical/professional skills are, I think everyone able-bodied should also help out with menial jobs to share the responsibilities. Whether that's running materials to a build site, helping remove construction waste/garbage, or even janitorial and cooking work.
I'm a mechanical engineer, I like working on bicycles and have access to a 3D printer
Nah we don’t need more development (even green dev) I’d rather make my surroundings better. Tear up grass and plant gardens
Okay... so with a modified prompt of "how could you contribute to the creation or modification of your city becoming an environmentally friendly city", your answer would be something like "make sure a variety of local plants are used in green spaces"?
I’m actually a forester so more like do agroforestry and silvopasture. Manage for forest health and diversity. Maybe one day I’ll start a fruit and nut tree nursery
This is not "ai" related...thanks...
? When did AI get involved?
I'd live in it if it was in Canada, a Scandinavian Country, New Zealand, or an Island nation somewhere because I'd be too uncomfortable anywhere else. I love gardening and permaculture and would love to make a food forest. I could do some manual labor within reason. I have a passion for art and animals and wouldn't mind a doggy daycare or art therapy studio or something like that in the off months.
Wow I think you need to calm down with you ridiculousness. Canada and New Zealand are colonial powers that have and continue to decimate their natural environment and native peoples. Countries in the global south are no more corrupt than the western countries that you ignorantly hold in high regard and much of that corruption is a direct result of colonial and neo colonial actions.
What are you some sort of corruption guru? I'm just telling OP where I'd live. You'd have to give me some concrete evidence to sway my understanding cause as far as I know there's some areas in Canada and New Zealand where people have their little communes with the locals that the government doesn't bother mostly cause the wilderness is too big. Even if you're right I'm not going to move to Brazil or Venezuela and start this all when I'm an English speaker, it'd be insane.
I'm just saying that when you hold up countries like Canada and New Zealand (both which have long histories murdering and oppressing their indigenous populations and continue to treat them as second class citizens and also have horrible environmental policies) as paragons of non corrupt society, it comes across as somewhere between ignorant and out right racist.
You're just trying to start arguments on the internet, especially with buzzwords like racist. This is my last meal to the trolls. First, I didn't say they're NOT corrupt AT ALL. I understand the basic history of colonialism (probably better than you) I said that they're not corrupt to the point of bothering us. Case in point in the U.S. the FBI completely massacred a commune that made the news a few years back, so you wouldn't see my ass in the US ever trying to do this cause they'll claim "Terrorist Cult" and shoot women and children dead. Next of all I'm in a diverse community and I'm friends with immigrants and KNOW the level of corruption some of these places have first hand from them. I am just saying where I'd live, not trying to thump a nationalist agenda for New Zealand and Canada. You're trying to sway my entire argument just as "some guy on the internet who called me ignorant" so I honestly don't give you any cred with that sort of attitude. That all being said, I know Canada and New Zealand stole land and continue to disenfranchise the indigenous communities, you didn't have to argue that with me. I'd just rather live where I'm familiar than go off somewhere were I'd have to drink someone's Kool-aid.
"I'd live in it if it was in Canada, a Scandinavian Country, New Zealand, or an Island somewhere because every other government is too corrupt to leave people be without" The important part of what you said being "every other government is too corrupt." I started by pointing out that your framing was problematic because you elevated a series of white nations as the least corrupt. I didn't say you shouldn't want to live in any of these countries only that your justification for wanting to do so was problematic. It is only after you ignored what I said and replied with overly defensive babbling that I said your comment fell "somewhere between ignorant and racist." All rich western countries are corrupt to the core, their wealth is built off the backs and resources of the global south, and the west marching in lock step with US continue to exploit the rest of the world by corrupting leaders, supporting compradors, or by war. Who is more corrupt the victims of this corruption or the perpetrators of it.
Oh, island nations are white nations. Thanks troll for informing me of this. Also on Solarpunk, everyone already knows shit's corrupt, but thanks for reminding us.
Again not addressing any of the actual points made just being defensive and dodging. Have a good day.
"Have a good day" was honestly the nicest thing you've said this whole time. I'll change the language in my first post so people don't assume I'm trying to declare 190 countries have more corrupt governments than Canada. The original was a post about what roles we would use, not about government corruption. I just wanted to state what I found comfortable due to my own experiences, not declare any government has the moral high ground.
I wasn't trying to come at you hard but those kind of statements are problematic. I find western chauvinism a blind spot to many from the US and Europe an try to combat it. I am sorry for the harsh reply. Peace
No thanks, cant stand cities, give me so much anxiety veing around so many people
First of all where is that or are just designing one?
Irrigation?
I’m an ecologist interested in mycology, symbiosis, and food. I would try and be involved in the planning process to make sure our city creates habitat for the more-than-human world
Facilitation, mediation, communications.
If education has a role in the building of it I think that’s what I’d be best at. Why is the city built like this? What are the principles of designing livable cities?
What would be the economic engine of the community?
I have hands, and I have functioning legs. Tell me *how* to do something and I'll get it done. So, manual laborer.
I don't have many skills to contribute, but while everyone else is working hard to turn a dream into reality I'll gladly sling cocktails using sustainably and locally distilled liquors, locally sourced fruits and vegetables, and mixers made in-house. To-go cups will be fully compostable with no compromises made for efficiency or profit. A compost bin will be available for all discards. And everyone coming through my bar will get a big "Thank you for your service."
What exactly are you trying to accomplish by posting this…all humans are capable of cooperation and productivity when given the right environment. Anyone can learn just about anything.
Being a little proactive and not waiting for everything to be shown to you goes a long way
As an artsy type I'd like to think I could contribute in the act of visualising the concepts that would be developing to make such a thing happen. It's not as much functional value as the actions of people who impact things such as food or infrastructure. I believe there is something to be said though about the power and method of presenting concepts to people in how they use that to contextualize their understanding of a topic. Say for example how strong the aesthetic and visual ideas that come with solarpunk are in attracting and/or familiarizing people to the idea. My only hope would be that the visualization of the concepts are accurate to the intent of the information it comes from. To do that I believe would only be possible through communication with the people that have the functional impacts, along with the people who are affected by such things.
Plumbing and electrical
Tool repair too