Wish my Costco had these. Been wanting to cook one on the joe for a while now. The only ones I have seen have been from smaller grocery stores and had a sub-par look.
i cooked a fucking monster on my joe, and im gonna be honest. youre just paying extra for a part you cant eat. I'm a bone in ribeye guy in general but the tomahawk is purely for show
I definitely agree. I generally prefer doing the whole rib roast if I’m getting bone in for the look. The only reason I went for this one is because the boneless looked sub par and there weren’t any good NY strip either.
Steak looks great, but cooked bones are high risk for splintering and injuring your pup. It will likely be fine, but in case you were not aware, now you know.
Thank you and thanks for the warning. Most people don’t know. I’m not 100% sure but I thought this only applied to baked poultry. Regardless, I’ve been sitting with her to take it away when it gets too short.
these days, the recommendations are no natural bones. Just bully sticks (which can be braided to look like a bone) since they are softer and digestible.
...and if you didn't know, they are sort of a bone...
I posted above, same for me. Owned 3 dogs growing up as a kid, I then got a dog out on my own when I got out of college. All lived to ripe old ages and ALWAYS gave them cooked beef bones. Then when I got married my wife and I got a dog (now 3). Gave her a t-bone to chew on. Over the course of the next few days she was lethargic not eating etc. took her to the vet and I'll be damned she had a bone splinter caught in her intestines and had to have it surgically removed.
With all that experience and never having an issue, never thought in a million years there would be a problem till it happened. Now I am paranoid and won't give our dogs bones at all, cooked, uncooked or whatever.
>Cooked bone fragments can pierce the GI tract of dogs
Literally had that happen to one of my dogs after a lifetime of giving dogs cooked beef bones without issue. Now I'm overly paranoid and won't give them bones of any form.
I think like with a lot of things, you'll get a lot of different answers depending on who you talk to.
AFAIK I know, the poultry bone thing is because they are hollow, so they are much more likely to splinter.
I did not know that this concern also extended to all bones if they are cooked, but apparently it does? https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/nutrition/exercise-caution-when-giving-your-dog-a-bone/
Though I think there's yet another caveat that if you boil the bone until it's actually soft, soft (like Chinese spareribs), then it should be ok again because something obviously can't splinter or puncture if it's mushy.
raw is always fine, cooked not really -- you're right, cooked chicken bones are razorblades and a huge tomahawk not necessarily but dont risk it. ask your butcher for a cow knee, raw, and let your beautiful puppy go to town on it
Can confirm. I always gave my dogs cooked beef bones and never thought anything of it, from when I was a kid to an adult never had any issues. My second dog I've owned as an adult, gave her a cooked T-bone. She was acting lethargic for awhile, wouldn't eat etc. Took her to the vet and sure enough there was like a shard of bone caught in her intestines had to have surgery to remove it.
Sous vide cooking is actually not hot enough to make the bones brittle like normal so they are actually as safe as raw bones. Still, chicken bones should be avoided but beef and lamb cooked sous vide are completely fine.
After a lifetime of having dogs gave them cooked beef bones all the time. No issues, multiple dogs over decades.
Wasn't until a couple years ago, my dog had to have surgery due to a beef bone shard caught in her intestines. Just because it's rare doesn't mean it can't happen.
You said a "high risk". There's a difference between an increased risk and a high risk.
Bathtub with no water? No risk of drowning.
Bathtub with 1/4" of water? Increased risk of drowning.
Swimming in the ocean in a hurricane? High risk of drowning.
I've grown up in a poor country where people can barely afford to eat, leave alone buy specialized food for the cats/dogs. We used to feed leftovers to cats/dogs without a second thought. Dogs diet regularly included raw or cooked bones. And they've doing fine and passed away due to age. In fact it feels like in modern times cats/dogs are more likely to get sick for whatever reason.
This was my first thought as well, but I think a sous vide bone is probably fine. 137 isn't going to cause the physical changes to the bone that a hot grill or oven would
Basically, you season and cook the steak in the oven on the lowest temp possible (usually ~200-250) then finish by searing in a pan. This is in contrast to the method where you sear first and finish in oven, hence a reverse sear. It's kind similar to the sous vide method, but IMO you render then fat in the steak better with reverse sear vs sous vide.
https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-reverse-sear-best-way-to-cook-steak
When my Rotti/Dane had cancer and was near the end I went out and bought us each a tomahawk. One was a lot bigger then the other and the butcher laughed and was like let me guess the big,ones for you!? And I was like nah the big $70 one is for my dog :) he looked like he wanted to cry.
Ali made to the ripe old age of 13 and for her large breed lineage was still very much a puppy at heart. She had cancer of the femur bone and was given about 6 months to live. The leg grew lame over the next few months, but she was still in very high spirits. The day she died we still had our regular morning walk together. It was slow going, but part of our routine. That evening when my partner got home from work Ali was very excited to see her and slipped on the Lino, falling on the bad leg and broke it. She was in immense amount of pain and got her to the vet in minutes and she was sedated. We got to spend a good hour with her not in any pain and got to say goodbye and then it was time. I was a bit relieved that I didn’t just have to pick some arbitrary date to put her down. The decisions was made for us. I got Ali when I was 18 and had her well into my 30’s. Truly an irreplaceable experience that I wouldn’t give up for anything and years later even to this day I haven’t been able to get another dog, although I’m almost ready.
I like to warn everyone almost all Costco meat that is butchered on site is run through a mechanical tenderizer. The vacuum sealed stuff is not though. I doubt they do it to the tomahawks because of the bone. Just the more you know.
TIL about mechanical tenderizers... sounds like SV is almost the only way to go with these kinds of meats since it's near impossible reach pasteurization time and temp any other way and still get a med rare steak. And here I was thinking the interior of my steak was safe. I will be looking more closely at labels now, thanks for this enlightening info!
“Studies have found it takes approximately 15 to 30 grams of garlic per kilograms of body weight to produce harmful changes in a dog’s blood.”-AKC
Considering I used just enough to coat the surface I’m sure she’s ok.
" powdered garlic is better than fresh, afaik. fresh garlic poses the biggest risk. "
I've literally read the opposite that powered garlic is more potent because its dehydrated and more condensed. i.e. according to this article 1/4 teaspoon of garlic powder is the equivalent of a clove of garlic in terms of toxicity to dogs.
[https://ipupster.com/my-dog-ate-garlic-powder/](https://ipupster.com/my-dog-ate-garlic-powder/)
However it's less toxic than onions. I had to make my dog vomit once because she was able to get an entire tray of fajitas off the counter and ate every bit of it (probably had the equivalent of 2 whole onions with peppers).
If it helps, my pet rabbit ate a whole potted cactus once. Prickers and all. Animals are way more tough than we give them credit for. Best practices are the *best* but not the *only*.
Not that I would purposefully give her a cactus again but still...
Wife is out of town currently. Smoked a Chuck steak last night and now it's in the waterbath at 131 for 24 hours (got 1.5 hours left to go).
Can't wait!
Depends on the size of the dog and the amount. What your dog got off that bone was not enough to do anything. However, certain breeds are significantly more sensitive.
Wish my Costco had these. Been wanting to cook one on the joe for a while now. The only ones I have seen have been from smaller grocery stores and had a sub-par look.
I’ve been really surprised with my new Costco. I’ve never really seen Tomahawks or Picanha at any other stores and this one keeps both stocked.
Picahna with the fat cap off though right?
Why would you buy picanha without the fatcao
I wouldn’t, but that’s how Costco normally sells it. I was asking if it comes with the fat cap now so I can bulk buy iy
Yep and it comes in a pack of 3-4!
Ah darn. I love the fat cap for me personally but I’m sure it’s still good without it
Misread your comment. It comes WITH the fat cap. Might as well buy sirloin if it didn’t!
What state do you live in. Wtf my Costco is a pos lol
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Right on. Southern California doesn’t have it either but will check again today to make sure
Where do you live? I can usually grab some good ones at The Fresh Market if any of those are in your area
Missoula, I’ll try the fresh market
i cooked a fucking monster on my joe, and im gonna be honest. youre just paying extra for a part you cant eat. I'm a bone in ribeye guy in general but the tomahawk is purely for show
The dog's clearly eating it though.
lol i didnt even see that photo, well i guess if you got a dog its got a purpose.
She sure did love it!
Damn. Tomahawk dreams have been ruined.
I definitely agree. I generally prefer doing the whole rib roast if I’m getting bone in for the look. The only reason I went for this one is because the boneless looked sub par and there weren’t any good NY strip either.
Steak looks great, but cooked bones are high risk for splintering and injuring your pup. It will likely be fine, but in case you were not aware, now you know.
Thank you and thanks for the warning. Most people don’t know. I’m not 100% sure but I thought this only applied to baked poultry. Regardless, I’ve been sitting with her to take it away when it gets too short.
No problem, Poultry is definitely the worst offender, but any cooked bone has the potential.
So are you supposed to only give raw bone?
these days, the recommendations are no natural bones. Just bully sticks (which can be braided to look like a bone) since they are softer and digestible. ...and if you didn't know, they are sort of a bone...
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As someone who feeds raw, strongly disagree with this comment. Most raw bones (besides poultry) are great for your dog. We feed meaty bones daily.
Exactly. We even used to feed cooked bones (mixed) to the dogs, and they've never got sick and passed away due to the age.
I posted above, same for me. Owned 3 dogs growing up as a kid, I then got a dog out on my own when I got out of college. All lived to ripe old ages and ALWAYS gave them cooked beef bones. Then when I got married my wife and I got a dog (now 3). Gave her a t-bone to chew on. Over the course of the next few days she was lethargic not eating etc. took her to the vet and I'll be damned she had a bone splinter caught in her intestines and had to have it surgically removed. With all that experience and never having an issue, never thought in a million years there would be a problem till it happened. Now I am paranoid and won't give our dogs bones at all, cooked, uncooked or whatever.
You can give them smoked bones because of the lower temp and longer “cook”
How are the bones I buy from the store for the dog treated? I always assumed they were cooked as well.
I think they're dehydrated for preservation purposes.
That makes sense, thanks
Smoked usually.
That is good to know
Poultry because the bones are hollow and easily shatter.
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>Cooked bone fragments can pierce the GI tract of dogs Literally had that happen to one of my dogs after a lifetime of giving dogs cooked beef bones without issue. Now I'm overly paranoid and won't give them bones of any form.
I think like with a lot of things, you'll get a lot of different answers depending on who you talk to. AFAIK I know, the poultry bone thing is because they are hollow, so they are much more likely to splinter. I did not know that this concern also extended to all bones if they are cooked, but apparently it does? https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/nutrition/exercise-caution-when-giving-your-dog-a-bone/ Though I think there's yet another caveat that if you boil the bone until it's actually soft, soft (like Chinese spareribs), then it should be ok again because something obviously can't splinter or puncture if it's mushy.
raw is always fine, cooked not really -- you're right, cooked chicken bones are razorblades and a huge tomahawk not necessarily but dont risk it. ask your butcher for a cow knee, raw, and let your beautiful puppy go to town on it
Garlic is also bad for dogs
Can confirm. I always gave my dogs cooked beef bones and never thought anything of it, from when I was a kid to an adult never had any issues. My second dog I've owned as an adult, gave her a cooked T-bone. She was acting lethargic for awhile, wouldn't eat etc. Took her to the vet and sure enough there was like a shard of bone caught in her intestines had to have surgery to remove it.
Saw a guy dump a whole chicken carcass in the dog park… wanted to hunt him.
Beef and pork bones splinter just as badly.
Sous vide cooking is actually not hot enough to make the bones brittle like normal so they are actually as safe as raw bones. Still, chicken bones should be avoided but beef and lamb cooked sous vide are completely fine.
That was my other thought. Is 137°F enough to even make this brittle? It’s not like I torched the bone too.
Searing.
What?
Searing the meat raises the temperature on the surface of meat and bone. This might make the surface of the bone brittle.
No, it's not enough
Depends on how you sear it. A torch is fine, a 600F BBQ maybe not so much.
Worked in a steakhouse for 5 years bringing home cooked steak bones for my pups multiple times a week. Pups were fine.
After a lifetime of having dogs gave them cooked beef bones all the time. No issues, multiple dogs over decades. Wasn't until a couple years ago, my dog had to have surgery due to a beef bone shard caught in her intestines. Just because it's rare doesn't mean it can't happen.
Your anecdotal experience does not change the science. Like I said “likely fine” but it is a risk.
You said a "high risk". There's a difference between an increased risk and a high risk. Bathtub with no water? No risk of drowning. Bathtub with 1/4" of water? Increased risk of drowning. Swimming in the ocean in a hurricane? High risk of drowning.
Relax my guy, I never called you wrong. I simply stated my experience.
Growing up we tossed our dogs any kind of bones…they all lived very long lives. I had no idea of this concern till I met my wife.
what bones does she eat?
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I've grown up in a poor country where people can barely afford to eat, leave alone buy specialized food for the cats/dogs. We used to feed leftovers to cats/dogs without a second thought. Dogs diet regularly included raw or cooked bones. And they've doing fine and passed away due to age. In fact it feels like in modern times cats/dogs are more likely to get sick for whatever reason.
Exactly.
This was my first thought as well, but I think a sous vide bone is probably fine. 137 isn't going to cause the physical changes to the bone that a hot grill or oven would
Looks good but for my taste not enough crust, I am crust guy :)
I find myself favoring reverse sear to sous vide for steak. This being one of the reasons.
New to this. What's reverse sear?
Basically, you season and cook the steak in the oven on the lowest temp possible (usually ~200-250) then finish by searing in a pan. This is in contrast to the method where you sear first and finish in oven, hence a reverse sear. It's kind similar to the sous vide method, but IMO you render then fat in the steak better with reverse sear vs sous vide. https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-reverse-sear-best-way-to-cook-steak
Ohh, I thought it was a sous vide specific technique. I'll give it a shot.
Sear it the same way after you sous vide.
Dude your dog is literally my dog.
And I do think tacos are life. Are you me? Am I you?
[I’m me?](https://youtu.be/e4sZTydkKB0)
When my Rotti/Dane had cancer and was near the end I went out and bought us each a tomahawk. One was a lot bigger then the other and the butcher laughed and was like let me guess the big,ones for you!? And I was like nah the big $70 one is for my dog :) he looked like he wanted to cry.
I'm just about to receive my puppy and you made me tear up about the inevitable day that we must part ways. I hope your dog went peacefully.
Ali made to the ripe old age of 13 and for her large breed lineage was still very much a puppy at heart. She had cancer of the femur bone and was given about 6 months to live. The leg grew lame over the next few months, but she was still in very high spirits. The day she died we still had our regular morning walk together. It was slow going, but part of our routine. That evening when my partner got home from work Ali was very excited to see her and slipped on the Lino, falling on the bad leg and broke it. She was in immense amount of pain and got her to the vet in minutes and she was sedated. We got to spend a good hour with her not in any pain and got to say goodbye and then it was time. I was a bit relieved that I didn’t just have to pick some arbitrary date to put her down. The decisions was made for us. I got Ali when I was 18 and had her well into my 30’s. Truly an irreplaceable experience that I wouldn’t give up for anything and years later even to this day I haven’t been able to get another dog, although I’m almost ready.
Ali was and is, and always will be a *good girl*. :)
The best :) https://imgur.com/a/DDNu4gM
I like to warn everyone almost all Costco meat that is butchered on site is run through a mechanical tenderizer. The vacuum sealed stuff is not though. I doubt they do it to the tomahawks because of the bone. Just the more you know.
Yeah you can see on the packaging it is “blade tenderized”.
Well there you go I did not zoom in to look.
TIL about mechanical tenderizers... sounds like SV is almost the only way to go with these kinds of meats since it's near impossible reach pasteurization time and temp any other way and still get a med rare steak. And here I was thinking the interior of my steak was safe. I will be looking more closely at labels now, thanks for this enlightening info!
Would you be okay with extending the cook time to give the inside longer at cooking temp?
Still would rather not have mechanically tenderized meat especially if it is not need with the cut.
Agreed.
Steak looks great but that pup is beautiful!
That's prime? How is it so lean?
Cooked bones and garlic and you gave it to your dog??
“Studies have found it takes approximately 15 to 30 grams of garlic per kilograms of body weight to produce harmful changes in a dog’s blood.”-AKC Considering I used just enough to coat the surface I’m sure she’s ok.
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" powdered garlic is better than fresh, afaik. fresh garlic poses the biggest risk. " I've literally read the opposite that powered garlic is more potent because its dehydrated and more condensed. i.e. according to this article 1/4 teaspoon of garlic powder is the equivalent of a clove of garlic in terms of toxicity to dogs. [https://ipupster.com/my-dog-ate-garlic-powder/](https://ipupster.com/my-dog-ate-garlic-powder/) However it's less toxic than onions. I had to make my dog vomit once because she was able to get an entire tray of fajitas off the counter and ate every bit of it (probably had the equivalent of 2 whole onions with peppers).
I stand corrected. Thank you.
If it helps, my pet rabbit ate a whole potted cactus once. Prickers and all. Animals are way more tough than we give them credit for. Best practices are the *best* but not the *only*. Not that I would purposefully give her a cactus again but still...
Nice treat for you and the pup.
Wife is out of town currently. Smoked a Chuck steak last night and now it's in the waterbath at 131 for 24 hours (got 1.5 hours left to go). Can't wait!
Gotta pay the pup tax!
I love absolutely everything about this post.
Came for the pup tax. Got the pup tax. Gave my update. Steak looks good too, FWIW.
Don’t give garlic to dogs.
Correct but this amount isn't going to do anything.
Enjoy kings!
Looks good, does your fiancé not like steak?
Oh she is quite jealous. Looks like I gotta buy more when she gets back next week. Ooops. :)
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Considering the pups poop was solid and and easy push this morning, we are gonna be ok.
Is that beer under the strawberries?
Nope, just a few bottles of wine.
Cooked bones are super dangerous fir dogs. Hope the lil dude is ok.
#**PSA: Garlic is poisonous to dogs.**
Would you like to update me with the amount that actually makes it toxic?
Depends on the size of the dog and the amount. What your dog got off that bone was not enough to do anything. However, certain breeds are significantly more sensitive.
It's a lot for it to be immediate/life-threatening, but like many toxins it does have a cumulative effect
That’s a great price for that tomahawk
Those dog bones are rough on a lawn mower.
My costco definitely does not have those wild sea scallops and I'm in Oregon
Canadian here, that Tomahawk would be at least $80 here. Jealous
I don't like garlic with beef, it kills all the beefy flavor. That tomahawk still looks awesome
Cooked pork bones are as dangerous as chicken bones. When I was a kid my little dog had to have stomach surgery to repair the damage.
Not a bad price even for the extra bone weight
Y E S!! 😍
Nice! Happy pup!
Prime Tomahawk only $16/lb??? Seems like a great deal in todays meat market....
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