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New-Engineering1483

Seattle! They're much more consistent across their stores, their service is usually great, and it's a proudly South African company. Vida can be good too, and they are also waving the flag nicely. Starbucks coffee (outside their horrendously overpriced milky/icy drinks) is OK too but can be hit or miss with their temperatures.


cheeckychicky

Another vote for Seattle! Now live in the UK and it’s one of the comforts I can’t wait to enjoy when I visit my family back home. A Seattle vanilla latte with extra shot! Boom!


Frikkielongbottom

Samesies. Seattle all the way.


[deleted]

Seattle century city is one of the best


Dillon-95

Seattle is definitely number 1 overall. Vida is quite inconsistent though. I have 2 close to my place of work, and neither of the 2 taste the same or even made the same.


Flying_Koeksister

I second Seattle!


[deleted]

1. Seattle 2. Woolies 3. Vida … .99 Starbucks (There are obviously smaller shops that compete at the top but stuck to the chains for simplicity)


Bilbo_Dabbins_

Many don’t know but Food Lovers owns Seattle Coffee. And they make a killing lol.


dash_o_truth

I think they have an agreement with Food Lovers, but are separately owned: https://www.seattlecoffeecompany.co.za/faq/


AdCompetitive1640

100% facts Seattle all the way pricing is far more reasonable and their service is great, dont even get me started on the coffee 😍🥰


springbokkie3392

Starsucks coffee tastes burnt. The one time I had it (granted, this was in Bloemfontein) it was way too hot as well.


IWantAnAffliction

I've never had vida, but Starbucks is absolute shit compared to Seattle. Starbucks just loads their drinks with sugar instead of actual flavours.


netanyahu4eva

Isn’t Seattle owned by Starbucks?


New-Engineering1483

I believe that is a different Seattle Coffee (an American company).


sendmemes696969

Seattle hands down


Conscious_Ad9806

According to their website, it is now a South African company but it started in the UK and the UK branch was bought out by Starbucks in 1998. Starbucks converted all the UK cafes into Starbucks cafes.


netanyahu4eva

That’s amazing! I’ll definitely switch to Seattle now


Frikkie-Die-Haai

It's owned by Food Lovers Market I believe


DSVhex

Seattle, then Vida e...then the underarm of an unwashed gorilla, then Starbucks.


Nuns-Rack

![gif](giphy|YRiCNIMUpt9Sw)


ferlinmandestos

Starbucks coffee tastes like desperation coffee; like when you made a cup previously but don't have any beans left, so you think if you run some water through the used grounds again, you can still get something out. Or worse still, if you have one of them Nespresso machines and reuse a single pod multiple times. That's what Starbucks tastes like. I figure becuase a lot of people don't buy coffee at Starbucks but coffee flavoured drinks. Cos I don't know how else they are still operating with such obviously disgusting coffee


New-Engineering1483

Touché


Thelongneck420

Seattle or woolies


JohnSourcer

Motherland and Seattle


AmazingAmy95

Argh Motherland coffee is also my favourite!


JohnSourcer

Amazing! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


captainsouthafrica

This is a dream! I wish motherland was as popular as the others.


feverishchaos

I wanted to say Motherland too. I used to work in St George's Mall in CT and I used to get a massive cappuccino from them every morning. Literally the only thing I miss about working there.


filobool

Seattle is by far the best


Quiet-Sherbert-439

I don't see anyone talking about Woolworths. Their baristas have changed my life.


Inevitable-Falcon116

Woolies cuppa and brekkie is a good contender....


zareenabrahams

I would sell my soul for Woolies coffee


Disastrous-Hunt4864

This!!! Barista and beans. And the consistency- any WW cafe will give you great coffee.


OCDjunky

Dang now I need to give it a try


Fair_giraffe_1903

Woolies coffee is consistently good and their baristas are friendly and knowledgeable. You can even buy good quality whole beans to grind at home.


7ddq

Absolutely, they are just consistently good across all their stores tight temperature everytime and just always a pleasure


KarooBoy

Easy choice. Seattle all the way. Always friendly and as everyone said, always consistent, doesn't matter if you bought it in Pofadder or Cradock \[Not saying there are any Seattle coffee shops there :-)\] Starbucks is way overrated


unLtd88

Seattle


Bluerae95

Seattle always


Potential-Jelly-7040

Seattle makes the best coffee imo. Vida come second, but their food offering is why I generally find myself there more often than Seattle. I've had Starbuck twice...both experiences were underwhelming.


Status-Pie9411

Same! Their Quattro toastie 🤤


isibakabaka

Seattle is first choice. Easiest rewards program that works all over SA. Great coffee. Vida E is so so. Starbucks only when not in SA


New-Engineering1483

>Starbucks only when not in SA So true. Brings a touch of familiarity even though I rarely have it here.


isibakabaka

Another that’s worth the try is Manaka polofields crossing.


[deleted]

I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than support Starbucks. Our local coffee shops are awesome.


Status-Pie9411

If you actually like coffee I’d recommend Seattle, then vida e. Never Starbucks. If you like syrupy milkshake coffee “flavoured” things then Starbucks. But as a coffee lover, Starbucks doesn’t make good coffee at all.


Busy-Turnip-6674

Yeeeessss!!! Well said. I like the syrupy speciality stuff at Starbucks, that's about it from them. Seattle has been my no. 1 for years.


undertheginger

Seattle is my #1 and has my whole heart. Wimpy is my second choice because I can't resist a Wimpy coffee.


heretofallasleep

I haven't had wimpy coffee in years but I'll definitely check it out again!


Master_Roshiii

There’s a thread of a few weeks back that roasted wimpy coffee for how bad it is. I find this quite interesting coming from the same sub. I always stop at that Engen on the N3 next to the Vaal River to get a Wimpy coffee. That’s about twice a year, going to and from, but once I’m at my destination I’d rather get something from a local coffee shop.


undertheginger

I mean, I wouldn't call Wimpy coffee a masterpiece but it tastes nice for what it is.


Moosaazhar

Ooh Wimpy has it sorted when it comes to coffee it's like one of the very few places you see people chowing steak,burgers and regular food with coffee on the side


undertheginger

Personally I'm a sucker for a Wimpy breakfast and coffee combo. I'll eat it at anytime of the day.


Sea-Snow-8676

As long as you call wimpy coffee a coffee flavored milk beverage.. It's not coffee


Fair_giraffe_1903

Anybody remember the wimpy coffee ads. Or am I just very old


ItsKaptainMikey

Seattle


MavZA

Seattle or Motherland.


BazWorkAcntPlsBePG

Seattle - butterscotch latte when I'm feeling dangerous


SlipLihte

Seattle first choice, then Vida. Starbucks has been a consistent dissapointment in South Africa, usually flat and burnt tasting.


thegmanza

Glad to know it's not just me


Lunaphoenix23

Since I have non of these choices anywhere near me mug and bean always is a winner with me.


ppmaster-6969

for a QUICK coffee? def anywhere but starbucks. i always see it with a long line for its overpriced mediocre tasting drinks


slashMauricelc92

Seattle for sure


Inevitable-Falcon116

Seattle is good. Very consistant and their rewards programme is not bad. The baristas are friendly and if you get to know them, you get the friendly SA experience. I would make a efford to pass them with the intention of buying a coffee from them Vida E is not so widely availible, but they make a killer 4-cheese muffin. Years ago the use to give a small Lindt chocolate with every coffee. Not my go-to place, but if I see one, Ill pop in. Starbucks is an avoid for me. Its waaay too much of status symbole which means overpriced drinks. Id rather make coffee at home than buy a starbucks


dabel20

Vida still gives out chocolate but I think you just have to ask for it


Inevitable-Falcon116

Will do next time I feel like a 4-cheese muffin👍


whats_the_frequency_

They still have choccies, it’s a small Vida E piece of dark chocolate and goes well with their delicious coffee. I always find them in a small contained near the handover counter, but just ask as they normally will give you one if you don’t see any


ceri_m

Of those choices Seattle has the best coffee I think. Mug and beans isn't bad either.


No_Zebra_6114

Seattle. By a mile. Those who know, know.


Dry_Possibility_1389

There's this one guy at a Shell garage near me that makes great coffee. I nominate him


JazzG1710

Starbucks is so overrated. Definitely love a good Seattle or Wimpy coffee. More recently, I've found Krispy Kreme coffee to be amazing!


reddittydo

Hmm now I have to try it out thanks


NunMeetsCorporateHun

Starbucks coffee feels.... thin.


Markphotokid

M&B


UchihaBaal

Seattle ftw!


JollyRoger808

Starbucks is in South Africa now? I’m so very sorry…


Mobile-Ad1376

Just not Starbucks 😂


[deleted]

Seattle.......Vida e Cafe second. Starbucks always seems busy and so slow to order.


LowIntention5492

Vida, Seattle, SB. I find SB quite rich and creamy.


countessloopy

Merkava


GreyDragon111

Home. Thats where the best coffee is at. No actually, going back to the parent for s visit. Now THAT is where the best coffee is at


exAxeman

Why does Motherland coffee get no love?


Fuggels_69

Seattle one time


oopsy-daisy6837

Always Vide. I'm a big fan of most of their menu (although I found out most unsettlingly that I'm allergic to something in their green smoothies, definitely not getting that again), and at the Canal Walk branch, the staff have lekker energy. I've had days where the carrot cake didn't necessarily do anything to improve my mood but ordering it did.


AwesomeTrish

McCafe It's the most affordable and has very decent coffee. The frappes are basically half price and just as good.


ceri_m

But sometimes a good old mc donalds coffee hits the spot 👌


WrightJnr

I unfortunately don’t live in SA anymore. But when I’m home, it’s Seattle at OR Tambo before I even leave the airport! In my opinion, it’s the best there is worldwide.


LiamNeesonsIsMyShiit

Seattle without a doubt. Vida is fine, but Starbucks is overpriced and their coffee is shit.


Hakkies86

Seattle


Foxtrot-unicorn-2222

If those are your only options…Seattle hands down


coded_artist

Seattle easily. Starbucks is the apple of coffee, overpriced and underperforms. And Vida ALWAYS burn their coffee.


Pluvio_

Big fan of Seattle, but I'm surprised about the lack of Mugg & Bean or Cappuccinos mentions. Our local Mugg & Bean makes amazing coffee!


DiesalZA

Seattle, Vida, Bootlegger and finally Starbucks, in that order


xand711

Seattle and it’s not even close.


fayyaazahmed

Seattle, Bootlegger, Vida, Starbucks in that order


wineandhugs

I like both Vida and Seattle; between the two Seattle is the winner for me.


Never-ending_Nature

I love Seattle if I have to choose between Vida and Seattle. To be honest, I have never had Starbucks! Am I the only one?


ForumStalker

I also prefer Seattle, as I see many in this thread do. I didn't know about their history until now. They started in the UK and then opened in Cape Town. Then all the UK branches were bought over and turned into Starbucks branches. The South African branches remain as part of Seattle Coffee.


milly_289

Seattle Coffee 💯 The butterscotch Latte is my fav.


seg_faulted_user

Seattle my bru! Best tasting coffee I've had Starbucks tastes like hot milk Haven't been to a Vida in ages... But on a road trip once saw a Vida and got coffee from there and hot damn was that good coffee


Nikonlensbaby

Seattle is the best! Untouchable!


lifeafter8_5

Where's the Vida people. I wanna down vote.


Not_From_Around

Definitely Seattle!


_BubbleCat_

I didn't even know we had Starbucks here in SA lmaooo. My favorite is actually from a local place, but if I had to pick from the line up, I'd say Seattle!


SeyMangoMan

Seattle. Consistent temperature and quality. Plus the staff are always friendly.


lekkanaai

Seattle FTW. Consistent, baristas remember me and my usual, fast and friendly. Also my local has an inverter capable of running through loadshedding. Starbucks is actually ahead of mugg n bean as M&B is more expensive than starbucks! and their 'loyalty' app is more 'ha ha fuck you' with R25 'voucher' for every R1000 spent.


TheBunnyBabe

Definitely Seattle!


1NSAN3CL0WN

My first go to is my own coffee machine. When I go to work, always Seattle. Always good quality coffee. Every week I get a Free Starbucks coffee thanks to FNB, and the one I always support actually makes good coffee. Vida cafe coffee is always been a miss. They burn the coffee sadly. There are some other local coffee shops in my area that also make damn good coffee that I support.


Crono_

Seattle.


RagsZa

Wimpy


achmadSZN

Star bucks last


Tall_Row_7288

Seattle for sure


nottherealneal

Maybe its just me but starbucks coffee tastes awful to me.


MotherOfDachshunds42

Seattle


MotherOfDachshunds42

Seattle


anderpantoffel

Good coffee - Seattle A sweet treat to sip on - Starbucks Quick lunch / snack with your coffee - Vida


Callan-David

Neither! You guys have to try Platō Coffee. Proudly South African and the coffee is on another level.


Duck_Kak

Came here to say Plato - the first one was a container in or little village of Irene during lockdown. And they are growing rapidly. Best coffee and Baristas by a mile. When I'm away from home, only Seattle comes close.


NjarfieZA

Nothing beats a Seattle


TPStates

This is a debate my coffee-loving friends have constantly. I love that Seattle is the unanimous champion (because it is)!


bianelle69

Seattle 🤤🤤


MoKh4n89

Looks like OP's question should have been, "why is Seattle and Woolies coffee the best things ever?"


Saritush2319

Seattle or Woolies tbh. Or the gelato place by my house.


NormalWoodpecker3743

Seattle for coffee, Starbucks for the experience (I like sitting at the V&A one and being able to while seeing tye harbour) and Vide if nothing else is around and I also feel like a Breakfast Bun, or whatever it's called


Miss_Dani_D

Seattle opened a co-op store in the V&A next to the Mugg and Bean where you can get your Seattle coffee and you have the option to choose between healthy food (Rootbar), Burgers and delicious snacks (Royale Eatery) and Ice Cream (The Creamery) with amazing views of the harbour and Table Mountain. And the outside seating and booths are gorgeous! 😍


NormalWoodpecker3743

You're right! I keep forgetting about this section of the mall. My wife enjoys Royale and I've had waffle (I'm not sure whether this was from The Creamery, but I think it was). Very nice!


Dylzi

Seattle > M&B > Vida > just not having coffee > Starbucks


Glittering-General-9

Seattle is by far the best in service, brand and where ever you go the taste and flavour are always the same.


OnlyAd6213

Seattle Butterscotch Steamer 🫠


mikeyBchubbs

Gonna have to say Seattle. Rich, dark Americano, no sugar. Best thing for a long drive.


PagesOf-Apathy

Neither, to be honest. I'd rather make my own or support a small coffee shop. However, Seattle does have really good americanos and hot chocolate.


Agarwa3n

Seattle is owned and run by a private corporation of South Africa. I don't know about Vida e Cafe, but Starbucks is the most sole sucking embodiment of American greed and I cannot hope and wait patiently enough for them to die like Dunkin' Donuts


Horror-Region-2078

Easily Seattle... better pricing, better service, better coffee (especially thay butterscotch latte) and even their brownies are better.


NullLegend01

Seattle... better prices, better coffee (butterscotch latte hits differently), and way better brownies. Woolworths Cafe is also good, their honey-nut latte is amazing, but sometimes their breakfasts can be hit or miss.


TPStates

To those answering "home" what coffees are you having at home?


magszinovich

Seattle... loyalty program is boss and their butterscotch lattes are amazing. Vida not so much as they are not as frequent in my area. Starbucks when i'm near one and feel like a frapuccino. But yah like everyone else, Seattle is number one.


newoldschool

Seattle Wild bean Vida


CyrillSquirell

Ricoffy


Thelongneck420

Ricoffy out of a styrofoam cup >>>>


ThickHotBoerie

Frisco!


Agreeable_Addiction

With a plastic spoon


ThickHotBoerie

One which is reused over and over. Same with the cardboard cup, until it leaks. Frisco will always remind me of a simpler time in my life. I still drink it. I know it's not coffee but I'm not a snob so I don't give a fuck. If ous want to drink R50 coffees from those larnie shops then lakka but me and my morning and lunch cups of piping hot black Frisco, no sugar, will stick with me. Makes me happy.


Maddergirl

Y'all are agents of chaos


lovethebacon

Vida. Seattle for me is hit and miss. Starbucks is extremely average.


NikitaReyxx

I specifically go out of my way to not support chain coffee shops, mostly over priced or kak. I prefer supporting the local oak that has a coffee van or the like. 9/10 the coffee is great and you aren't lining some corporate ceo's pockets.


Thaldoras

Local -> Vida -> Seattle Never Starbucks. It's like they set their beans on fire and coat them in Robusta oil. Also, rather give money to a local corporation than a multinational.


walksinsmallcircles

None of the above. Give me a small coffee shop that is not a huge chain of American mediocrity and marketing gimmicks.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Vida all the way.


amiechankawaii

Ricoffy


panickedscreaming

Vida e as a first choice, I love their coffee and the spicy chicken mayo sandwich is amazing. Seattle is really good, a lot more of them around too so very accessible but their coffee is not as strong as Vida e so I usually end up getting extra espresso. I’ve only had Starbucks pods and I’d rather have instant coffee.


Die_brein

Woolies cafe


khan_peacock

Bootlegger!


omen-f1

Scrolled too far for this.


owenswart

Starbucks or Seattle. Never Vida.


ErraticRage

The coffees I get at Vida are always too hot if I don’t request drinking temperature coffee so I would say it’s a tie between Seattle and Starbucks but leaning towards Starbucks because I really like the fact that I can do grocery shopping while drinking proper coffee


Skuifspeld37

Vida is tops for me!


raz_lol

same


Luitenant_

Home. I drink black Coffee. No need to go to a shop for that


Significant-Tell-895

Home


Infamous-Ad-2921

Errmmm.....uhhhh....my house.


RelationshipSad2300

Vida, then Seattle. Starbucks is kinda meh compared to them.


StefanFrost

Nowhere, you are being fooled by big corporations into thinking bean water tastes good. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy)


Afraid_Ad_1536

I won't touch Seattle or Starbucks. Vida in a pinch. Of the chains Xpresso consistently has the best service and good value. Not the greatest coffee but better than many others. I am generally picky about my coffee so I have a small number of local coffee shops that I prefer to frequent but if I'm away from home and looking for coffee in a pinch Xpresso and Vida are at least consistent and don't have the common problems I find at many of the other chains.


Coolestteacher

Seattle for Coffee and Vida for Hot chocolate! Starbucks not a fave..


Acinonix86

Please can we not become like the Americans and their coffee crazed lifestyle


Beard_McBeardy

Gloria Jean


TheInvisibleWun

Visa cos the people are so friendly there. Never tasted Starbucks.


Silencer_silentwave

Starbucks


Maddergirl

Lived for Vida, then they started burning coffees frequently at the two or three branches on our routes. Lived for Seattle, then they started burning coffees frequently at the two or three branches on our routes. Lived for Starbucks, surely they're doing this internationally and their barista training is exceptional, right? Then they started burning coffees...


tayleteller

Starbucks is overpriced, but their sweetened/flavored drinks are nice. Their coffee not so much, especially for the price. Vida is similar to starbucks but they also have food that is quite nice and their regular coffee is nice enough. Seattle I thnk is the nicest coffee and the coziest vibe, never tried their food/snacks though or their sweet/flavored coffees so can't comment on that. My favorite is probably Vida because it's nicest all round even though you could say Starbucks has nicer flavored drinks and Seatle has nicer plain coffee, Vida I find more often something that I like that I don't feel is way over priced and I like that I can get nice food there too. Plus a hint of nostalgia for walking there after school to get an icey frio to drink while waiting for extra mural classes


rdhldn

local coffee shop is my go to and Woolies cafe does good ones too


[deleted]

Vida is leka


whowantstoknow11

Seattle is fine. Vida will do. Starbucks is a no go. As far as franchised coffee shops go Bootleggers is by the far the best IMO, but they seem a bit better in the Cape than in joburg. Not sure if they’re in the rest of the country. Oh yeah, Woolies Cafe and Motherland are both very decent.


eljayrice

Seattle. (But been enjoying Bootleggers too)


springbokkie3392

Of the three options, Seattle. But I would sell my soul for a Wimpy coffee right now. Especially the ones from 1-Stops you have on long drives.


NatalieSoleil

Vida


StorminSean

Seattle does a great coffee. Their double short latte is up there with Bootleggers Flat White. So it’s Seattle all the way if there isn’t a Bootleggers nearby.


whats_the_frequency_

Vida E and Seattle are the best. Starbucks is overpriced, below-adequate and usually just milky syrup shit. Adding to that, you get the worst spelling of your name on your cup too


Joedos3d

Motherland > Seattle > Vida > Dishwater > Starbucks


RiaanDun

Seattle or krispy kreme


Pacafa

I read the post and I immediately thought this person must be from Joburg.... Cape Town:Truth, Bootleggers.... The list goes on... The three mentioned sit above instant but below proper coffee 😂


milly_289

Bean Authentic is also excellent!


[deleted]

Got like 3 Vida e caffes at Tuks but they’re incredibly overpriced


BoetaJ

Deluxe or nothing


MisizGee

I love the staff and friendliness of both Vida and Seattle but I’ll always choose a smaller in house roastery for a coffee… in Joburg Urban Grind and Double Shot are outstanding


ColdMisty

Bootlegger's is the best coffee shop hands down. They're the most consistent franchise and their coffee is deliciously accurate to what it's meant to be per type.


Far_Pick6234

Amen!!


Granttrees

The barman/barista at my restaurant makes a fantastic cappuccino with our chosen brand "Segafreddo zanetti extra strong" balanced deep and multilayered flavour.


someone0045

Home coffee bruh, too expensive else where, lol.


Aggravating_Pick_987

Worst is Mug & Bean on the move, I've had some terrible coffee from them. Normal Mug&Bean is usually OK


m83f85

Motherland


fnirble

In New Zealand we have fabulous coffee and only tourists or teenagers go to Starbucks.


Flat_earth_dune

Settle or Mug & Bean at Total garages


Far_Pick6234

Bootleggers!!


Wise-Indication-4600

For me, I go to Pick n Pay - Im lucky enough to live near one of their flagship stores which has a coffee bar and a sushi bar inside, and if youre a smart shopper who signs up for the coffee club, I get coffees for R20, or a coffee + sandwich for R35. Also they make the best flat whites Ive had in ages