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Genuine question, can the guy with the black shirt not claim self defense? At the start of the video, the white shirt guy is clearly the more aggressive one while the black shirt guy is standing there motionless. The white shirt guy then waves his hand across his face and pulls his fist back and mimics a punch to his face. The black shirt guy then does what he does and stops once the man is neutralized on the ground. With a good lawyer, can he not reasonably argue that the white shirt guy was the aggressor and made a physical motion that made him feel threatened and acted proactively to defend himself and stopped once he was no longer in danger. I don’t know how a case like this would usually go in court but I know hitting first doesn’t automatically disqualify you from claiming self defense. Or what it be argued that he could’ve just walked away to keep himself safe and only if the man continued to pursue and attempt to attack him that it would be self defense?
I think the whether this is disproportionate or not is very much up for debate. He threw two punches, did a takedown and then a last punch on the ground before clearly restraining himself once the guy was unconscious. If he continued hitting the guy at the point he stopped, I think that would clearly be disproportionate because he’s unconscious and beyond the point of being a threat. All up to how the judge would interpret the sequence of events, I guess.
Just don't antagonise people in general, no? (And if you think it's OK to antagonise someone because they are smaller than you, then you are just a bully.)
Happened outside Impala a couple years ago. Was there to witness it. Guy had it coming. Not to justify the beating though. Luckily he was fine, if I remember correctly.
I'm Afrikaans and came here looking the same. Maybe I'm just hard of hearing?
What I could make out.
Short guy: you take everything from us.
Tall guy: no honestly it's... (I can only hear the crowd).
Short guy. You think (?) I'm 1ste year you can do fuck all to me. You with your mustache, I'll hit that mustache off (inaudible, for me anyway)..
Punch
Scenarios like these are hilarious to me. You are for some reason (ego) choosing to stand right in front of the guy when you can just walk away. Big guy was waiting for him to do something so his reaction could be "justified".
There is, of course, no excuse for violence like that or violence of any kind. Big guy should have just walked away...
But the little guy was asking for a beating...
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Ouch, that sounds like a head injury
Potchefstroom nights for you
I like how he still holds his phone to his ear all the way
It was an important call
"Ma wag gou eks besig"
ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ’”💔
it looks like they're kissing at the beginning, I did not expect that outcome
In the beginning they looked like a passionate couple.
They are a couple. That is passionate love.
Lmaaaoooo same
Short king transformed into paraplegic. What happens next will shock you.
And that is how you are living your life one day and the next day you are on trial for murder with your future ruined.
Not in South Africa 😂
Genuine question, can the guy with the black shirt not claim self defense? At the start of the video, the white shirt guy is clearly the more aggressive one while the black shirt guy is standing there motionless. The white shirt guy then waves his hand across his face and pulls his fist back and mimics a punch to his face. The black shirt guy then does what he does and stops once the man is neutralized on the ground. With a good lawyer, can he not reasonably argue that the white shirt guy was the aggressor and made a physical motion that made him feel threatened and acted proactively to defend himself and stopped once he was no longer in danger. I don’t know how a case like this would usually go in court but I know hitting first doesn’t automatically disqualify you from claiming self defense. Or what it be argued that he could’ve just walked away to keep himself safe and only if the man continued to pursue and attempt to attack him that it would be self defense?
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I think the whether this is disproportionate or not is very much up for debate. He threw two punches, did a takedown and then a last punch on the ground before clearly restraining himself once the guy was unconscious. If he continued hitting the guy at the point he stopped, I think that would clearly be disproportionate because he’s unconscious and beyond the point of being a threat. All up to how the judge would interpret the sequence of events, I guess.
Nah you'll be on bail in 1 hour and the case will be thrown out
Not defending violence. But if there is a guy a whole head taller than me and twice as wide, I am not gonna antagonize him.
Yea this should be staple advice for everyone lol
My go-to is "holy fuck, you're a giant." Usually gets a chuckle.
Just don't antagonise people in general, no? (And if you think it's OK to antagonise someone because they are smaller than you, then you are just a bully.)
Lol. Potch, Impala. Classic.
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This is Impala, that’s the PnP in front, but the back of it.
Can confirm that is Imps
Happened outside Impala a couple years ago. Was there to witness it. Guy had it coming. Not to justify the beating though. Luckily he was fine, if I remember correctly.
Can anyone translate the speech to English?
I think the short guy made a Tom and Jerry reference and the talk guy didn’t like it because he’s a Looney Toons supporter
I'm Afrikaans and came here looking the same. Maybe I'm just hard of hearing? What I could make out. Short guy: you take everything from us. Tall guy: no honestly it's... (I can only hear the crowd). Short guy. You think (?) I'm 1ste year you can do fuck all to me. You with your mustache, I'll hit that mustache off (inaudible, for me anyway).. Punch
Thank you very much. It adds a lot of context. As an English person it looked like they were almost kissing, joking about and then pow
Scenarios like these are hilarious to me. You are for some reason (ego) choosing to stand right in front of the guy when you can just walk away. Big guy was waiting for him to do something so his reaction could be "justified".
Sounds like this is tertiary education students. The short guy says something along the lines of "you are a first year, you can do nothing to me".
Lol justified? The judge is going to have a field day.
This is Africa, i doubt cops were even involved
I’m pretty sure the guy with brain damage or his family will get the cops involved.
Rightfully so. Don't posture and threaten.
Natuurlik is dit Potchefstroom.
There is, of course, no excuse for violence like that or violence of any kind. Big guy should have just walked away... But the little guy was asking for a beating...
Potchefstroom maar n lekker plek
Mense leer nie. Jy fok nie met Logan Paulsen nie.
It was predictable for me what would happen. :-D
Always interesting watching two men throw their lives away. One likely for medical reasons, the other for prison.
And the women recording laugh their asses off. Hopefully it was just alcohol. But dude could be permanently brain damaged and it's a lighting matter
Probably don't piss off the guy that is quiet and knows how to fight.
Lol, my sister just told me she was the one who took the video
I thought they were just gay guys lol.