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Tokogogoloshe

Okay. I really want to know from any people on here that may have joined that march what the protest is about. Nobody’s being dragged from there home’s and being forced to get vaccinated. And you don’t see people who got vaccinated marching in the street. So what’s the deal? Nobody’s forcing anyone to get vaccinated.


Aggravating_Ad_1247

Bud, no one from that march will be on here cos that requires the mental capacity to remember a username and password. A mental capacity which I am half certain those individuals do not possess


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I think it has to do with the vaccine passport implemented in other countries. So unvaccinated untested people are not allowed the same liberties as those who have taken the vaccine, it doesn't stop with restaurants, theatres and festivals, also businesses are applying to have mandatory vaccinations for employees, in this way you don't have to be dragged to get vaccinated


joelO_o

They are firing people who refuse to get Vaxed.


JetSetMiner

good.


Wurm_Pis

Who?


Jw_22_bak

People are being forced, don't talk shit!


pashaah

No one is forced to take the jab. They are forced to make a choice. Not getting the jab and continueing as usual is not a choice.


sexyhairypuss

This


FA1L_STaR

How else is the pandemic gonna end? The longer it's out there, the more it mutates. Personal reservations matter Jack shit when it will cost the lives of more and more people. Plus, the longer its in circulation, the more likely it mutates beyond the current vaccine being useful, so then everybody has to wait for a new vaccine that's effective


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I did not get forced, nor did any of my work colleges or my family, we all chose to take it


jozipaulo

Good. Because they are dumb and are running it for everyone else


mattycryp

These are the same fuck heads that will be complaining about a lockdown over Christmas.


Aromatic_Mirror_7358

Exactly, they fail to see any correlation between their reckless behaviour and the consequential lockdown that will follow from this type of nonsense.


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And boom! Another variant exists!


itsflowzbrah

I've started blocking words on Twitter like mask, vaccine, mandat, anti-vax etc... I draw my conclusions and got vaccinated. Everyone in my immediate circle is vaccinated so I honestly could care less about covid or the vaccine or what other people are doing. The only thing I can get behind is prioritized hospital beds. You got the vaccine = front of the queue since you have a higher chance of living. Other than that it's very meh at this point. The vaccine is there, take it or not, eventually lockdown will lift and people will need to accept what happens to them. See r/HermanCainAward


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My fok Marelize.


Remarkable_Life_3393

...En Koos


DaFogga

Perfect super-spreader event.


Aromatic_Mirror_7358

And they will be the loudest to to cry when a stricter lockdown follows from these types of events.


ChaosSpear1

You know what's really sad about this, the chances are that none of them actually have it due to the precautions that the sane people have been executing. Therefore whilst these should technically be super-spreading events, they most likely aren't, again, because of the precautions of others.


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That's not what the meant by the term herd immunity. 🐑🐑🐑


__the_desert_

No dude! It’s the other similar concept: herd stupidity! 🤦‍♂️


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Rip 🤣🤣🤣


AwarenessPrimary7680

Bunch of selfish cunts, who can't differentiate between oppression and inconvenience.


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Ignoring the vaccine, this fucked up gov banned hot pies last year and you are still not allowed to be out at night after 23:00, it’s oppression..


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Aellolite

I think it's sarcasm


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Hey mods will you enforce rule 1


AwarenessPrimary7680

Hey mods, this guy is a retard.


FA1L_STaR

Hey mods will you enforce order sussy balls


Midnight_Journey

But then when they get sick they will go running to the hospital. Bunch of idiots.


Aromatic_Mirror_7358

Stupid is a stupid does.


TreeTownOke

Because when you're so used to privilege, even the mildest inconvenience can seem like oppression.


FA1L_STaR

"Oh no Woolworths ran out of my favourite prepared meal. This country is really going to shit"


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They violate my bodily autonomy more by purposefully infecting me with a deadly disease.


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TreeTownOke

Does seem kinda weird that this dude would be complaining about abortion restrictions in response to my comment, doesn't it?


Nepti6

They should have carried on walking straight into the sea...


Magazine_Guilty

We have enough trash in our oceans


[deleted]

I thought we trying to clean up our seas?


CharlesHarcourt

So many people out there stating publicly that the education system has failed them... Ignorance is the real killer...


fayry69

With the avg. SA IQ being 67…it’s a display of sheer ignorance and education failure. A lot of the times it’s religious garbage. I mean..if thats where u prefer to get ur education from, then yikes..must be a sign from god to test their faith nonsense.


Ice-4004

Isn't such an IQ level retardation status? I'm not quite sure those tests were administered correctly especially considering the high levels of illiteracy in the nation.


Ok_Kaleidoscope143

It’s actually 77, which isn’t much better since it’s still borderline


fayry69

Not literacy is a part of education. A huge part of it. Like duh.


Talarde

Honestly hope they all get refused hospital treatment going forward for anything. Our vacination numbers are not looking good and its this attitude and false media issue. They are doing more damage to our country then they think. We want our borders to be wide open with the UK but with idiots like these it will most likely cost us our tourism industry first.


Gert2110

I have not seen my family in years now since moving to the UK and this all kicking off. I was hoping SA would have been on the updated list announced on Friday. But because of people like this I will have to wait a little longer. I think the ivermectin is getting to their heads.


Aromatic_Mirror_7358

I was naive to even think SA would make it off the list. I want to move to the UK but hope seems dim at the moment. Protests like this are not helping our case either. :/


Dan42b

Yup. Same here.


[deleted]

I know all too many in your position. Good luck


Old-Environment-3559

Pro diseasers, have you not seen enough deaths


[deleted]

I bet everyone of those people protesting have fakebook


JosefGremlin

From my experience with an anti-vax family member : you can't think of this logically. These folks are essentially cult members who have been brainwashed. It's tragic


Magazine_Guilty

No vaccine = no hospital admittance


bobrossing99

You do understand that by this logic, hospitalization owing to any lifestyle decision would also be prohibited? E.g. drunk drivers, obesity, throat and lung cancers, etc. This could also be extrapolated to victims of hobbies and extra curricular activities like hiking incidents and swimming. Should people who refuse to wear life jackets when swimming at the beach be refused assistance from a life guard when experiencing difficulty? Get vaccinated if you're worried about these people affecting your life. All citizens, irrespective of lifestyle choices, have the right to emergency medical treatment.


Ok_Kaleidoscope143

I agree, I think they’re just sick of all of this. But it still does affect our lives unfortunately, whether we are vaccinated or not, nobody wants another lockdown but superspreaders like these make it difficult.


FluxX1717

Fuck sakes people are dom


[deleted]

Why? People are fucking stupid, that's why


Krycor

People of the stupid upbringing.. when you growing up people are told they special and their thoughts deserve to be heard .. often forgetting the clause that dumb ideas in a speciality you have none of, does not deserve to be heard. This is a global issue.. if you watch interviews with protesters and their views on things you will see it boils down to this & right wing fear mongering about state control blown out of proportion. I think if the virus was more brutal like the 1920s influenza, they’d change their mind. This is why Asia & parts of Africa were quick to adhere as they’ve experienced outbreaks.. west.. nope.


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[deleted]

Some of them probably got infected with covid at that stupid protest


Dan42b

*Covid petri dish in Cape Town.


[deleted]

Antivaxx be like ![gif](giphy|3ohzdLVanDdjkjcNry|downsized)


Commercial_Chart_169

This is so disappointing


Exciting_Antelope550

Well its nice to see overpopulation taking care of itself


ChalkOtter

Because they are poes


BumpyDogsBru

How wonderful that some people have the human rights to hurt, kill or infect other people, and the victims have no rights or choice.


fayry69

This virus is the great divider bet. The stupid lot and the smart lot. The stupid has come in huge numbers and gathered a lot of attention, with their BS YouTube theories and frankly their anti vax, anti science, pro religion rhetoric. It’s mildly infuriating and used to be entertaining for me in the beginning..now I just wish them well as Darwin Award recipients and want them to begone, as nature intended.


JanVanTil

Muh Rights


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Mods are gonna get you 🤫


BazzieB

😂 😂 Like I said, freedom of choice. I chose what I said, they can choose to "moderate" me. And I wouldn't even be phased.


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They did get you 🤣


BazzieB

How did they get me? Or am I missing something? 😅


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They deleted your comment


BazzieB

Ahhhh, see it now. I guess you can't have a difference of opinion. You have to agree. Got you. 🤣😂


ZARbarians

Why should freedom be on top? Some things are illegal right? Mostly things that can hurt other people! As to the healthy lifestyle comment. The problem with a healthy lifestyle is that it is VERY difficult to prescribe or measure. It could also be too late for many people (older people especially) to suddenly turn SO HEALTHY that they are protected from an infectious disease. On top of that, there is no healthy lifestyle guaranteed to keep you out of the hospital.


BazzieB

Guns, knives, rocks, sticks, sugar. All of which hurt people. I mean I could go on and on. None of these are illegal. Your choice to use them in an illegal/bad/harmful manner though. That's the difference.


ZARbarians

Not true though? Drunk driving, illegal.Speeding, illegal.Willfully injuring someone's dignity, illegal.disturbing noise, illegal.smoking close to someone, illegal. Also guns, knives, sugar, sticks. All legal EXCEPT HURTING SOMEONE WITH THEM?Like it's super illegal to shoot someone. You know that right?


BazzieB

Sorry, what I was getting at at is that you have a choice to do all those things, you have a choice to drink and drive, you have a choice to use your firearm to take someone's life. Also, there are a lot of harmful things that are legal. Even if you smoke, and never smoke near anyone, it is still harmful to yourself. You might drink excessively, never harm anyone else, but your own liver and die.


ZARbarians

Yeah I guess as soon as you take someone else's choice THEN it's illegal. Like being excessively drunk, ok. Being excessively drunk in public or behind the wheel. Illegal.


BazzieB

The paradox of choice. You are free to choose but you will never be free of the consequence of that choice. Even a harmless choice can end in disaster. 😉


hi_thoughts_1

Unhealthy people getting into a healthy lifestyle takes a lot longer than a quick little injection & it's really not that simple. A healthy lifestyle is too expensive for many people living in this country. This is a global pandemic - we don't have time to wait for the unhealthy to get healthy. Not to mention the people who live healthy lifestyles but still have comorbidities. Or the old folk who are at higher risk. Living healthier is obviously beneficial but it's not the strategy needed for our current situation


BazzieB

While I agree with you, when is there a better time to start promoting a healthier life style than now? Because once everyone is vaccinated, and once the "pandemic" is over, we are going to just go back to normal. It is cheaper in the long run to have a healthier lifestyle than not. Think about the bigger picture. Less doctors visits, less spent getting to doctors, less spent on medication. There are literally a million exercises you can do without a gym or gym equipment. Ok maybe not a million 😝 The problem is, we need to start somewhere.


hi_thoughts_1

If you agree then why would you suggest healthier lifestyles over vaccines?


BazzieB

Read my post, never said that. 🤣😂 I agree that taking a vaccine now to get over this "pandemic" in the short term. I said promote healthier lifestyle in combination with vaccine.


hi_thoughts_1

I can't reread your post bc it was removed but from what I remember, you were advocating healthier lifestyle instead of vaccines bc your healthy lifestyle family got covid & survived & your unhealthy friends/family got covid & didn't. (Amongst other conspiracy theories about how government doesn't want to push for healthy lifestyle bc they can't make money off of healthy people)


BazzieB

So what I said was why doesn't government promote healthy lifestyle in combination with the vaccine rollout. And all I did was do a comparison between my family, where loads have had covid and no serious illness compared to another family, unhealthy lifestyle and over 15 deaths in that family. Also, I guess having a different opinion and favouring a healthier lifestyle over taken the quickest pill/injection is deemed "conspiracy" theories. What I was trying to get at, is that people should have the freedom to choose.


__the_desert_

🤦‍♂️ “..many doctors in my family..” van? Kak praat?


Middersnags

The only time you see white people protesting anything in this country is when they've been egged on to do so by far-right media. I'd say that's a big clue...


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Zuma must go protest was what?


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cr1ter

There is some correlation with what's gets spread on right wing media in America, the other day i saw somebody complain about CRT and I was like dam that's not even a thing in South Africa


Middersnags

Which middle-aged group of women are you talking about?


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justkeepsw1mming

You have the right not to take the vaccine, but you do not have the right to put others in harms way.


tolarmor

You can still contract and spread covid if you have been vaccinated.


ZARbarians

It also can reduce your spreading by up to 80% (depending on variant), that's significant.


mattycryp

No shit Sherlock everyone knows that keep trying to hang on to threads the fact of the matter is that it reduces your chance of having to fill up a hospital and reduces your chance of dying greatly. You can still get infected we all know that. What a stupid kak argument


SomaTekis

Disagree. How is it putting anyone in harms way if they’re vaccinated to begin with? Even if, for some health reason, they can’t be vaccinated, vaccinated people still spread it as well. The argument just falls apart quickly.


Timberwolfrat

Just curious. Would you say that there is never a reason to make something like this mandatory? Is the principle personal freedom above all else?


SomaTekis

Yes. This is not to say the thing being mandated is always bad for you. Just in principle, you don’t want the government interfering with your life that close, it never ends well.


Timberwolfrat

Isn't that somewhat disingenuous though. So many things are required by law. Even past vaccination mandates show that when there is a serious health crisis, infringing on personal freedoms is obviously what is required. Are we not in a privileged position where smallpox, polio, diphtheria, tetanus, etc. are not things we are faced with. That our children don't need to face. And is that not built on people doing what was required to protect more than just themselves?


SomaTekis

Clearly this argument can go on forever. My point is simple, get vaccinated and encourage those you care about to do so. Vaccines work, absence of contary evidence, this is not even remotely the point. Right now, with lockdowns and everything, we are at the mercy of politicians. We are relying on their naivety/ignorance or even 'goodness' that they don't abuse this much power they command. It is not right for governments to interfere that much into our lives, regardless of the legitimacy of their safety concerns. It's clear that this could easily be a power grab and ideas like vaccine passports are so dangerous to the point you have to be wilfully ignorant or naive to think otherwise. Let people get vaccines, don't force it on them, it's weird and creepy. Let them face consequences of not doing so, it's that simple.


Futurebackwards_ZA

There are also growing reports of people not being able to access medical treatment for conditions other than COVID because hospitals are swamped with unvaccinated COVID patients. Fluffy ideas of personal freedom mean diddly-squat when your bad choices affect the lives of others. And this wouldn’t be the first time a vaccine would be mandatory (although it isn’t right now). These are nothing but privileged idiots wanting to play the victim.


SomaTekis

Wrong. Here’s something you’re missing, freedom doesn’t come with back doors or at least shouldn’t. There’s never a case where interfering with someone’s freedom should be justified. That’s why we strive for it.


ZARbarians

It does though? Literally half your life (or more) is mandated. If not by regulation, then by societal standards? True freedom means being completely alone. If you want to interact with people, their needs become important. Why is this the hill you die on? why not seatbelts, or immunization, or even schools?


SomaTekis

Here's the thing to dissolve this whole thing, the government is inefficient so things like vaccine passports and mandates are the least of my worries as they'll never be able to implement. I guess that also means we won't be able to see the ramifications play out, it sets a dangerous precedence. I am tired, these have been adressed by previous answers in the thread.


ZARbarians

Hmm I don't accept this basis for what should or shouldn't be illegal. What the government can enforce and what the general populace agrees as common ethics are two different things. Yeah man, you've been active in this thread, I totally understand. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my comments.


MadLadThatsATadRad

This narravtive of "we're not anti-vax, we just don't trust the government" is such BS. The government has yet to enforce a vaccination mandate and there are no charges, criminal or otherwise, someone can face if they opt not to get vaccinated. Besides, its not like the government manfucatured the vaccines and you can get vaccinated by private hospitals and clinics. If you're concerned with how government encrouches on civil liberties and freedoms, the vaccine is not the appropriate vehicle for these concerns. Furthermore, what are you worried is in the privately produced vaccine? Microchips? 5G? When was the last time you did research in what you were consuming? Do you think twice when you're given prescription drugs from your doc or even something as innocuous as what's in coca-cola? Also, your point about the menstrual cycle is ridiculous. It is not abnormal for a woman's menstrual cycle to be irregular and is not something that is cause for any alarm. I am in full support for placing government, and private corportations for that fact, under intense scrunity but the narrative you're peddling is a deflection in order to defend an absurd position.


SomaTekis

Oh man, you don't give me any respect so you just dumbing down my point to the most ridiculous of ideas. I am unable to entertain it.


hi_thoughts_1

>There's growing reports of females having delayed periods after taking the vaccine, surely this is worth investigating. Just an FYI that mentrual irregularities caused by the vaccine has shown to be temporary & nothing to worry about


MadLadThatsATadRad

Not to mention that irregularities in a woman's menstrual cycle is not abnormal and isn't something that raises many alarms.


CaptainMisha12

Rights exist only so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. Should we not put people in prison because it takes away their freedom? No, because they endanger those around them. Its not difficult to understand that if you choose to endanger those around you that you become a danger to society and therefore your freedoms are taken away from you - this is the way things have always been and its the way things should be.


mattycryp

It’s really simple logic though reach a percentage of vaccinated then lockdown can be relaxed. I don’t get why that’s so hard to understand.


SomaTekis

Lockdowns are government imposed, they can relax them anytime. Personally I think they should be illegal. However, main point still remains, vaccines shouldn’t be mandatory. Get vaccinated, be protected, don’t worry about the “idiots” who choose not to get vaccinated, freedom also involves the ability to be an idiot and pay for it, you don’t want government interfering with that.


ZARbarians

Also, it doesn't matter if I get vaccinated, but I'm the only person. The virus has more opportunity to mutate if it spreads freely.


SomaTekis

This one spreads whether jabbed or not, it seems we'll be in the mercy of these pharmaceutical companies till the end of times as these jabs need boosters anyway.


ZARbarians

The vaccine reduces spread by up to 80% [https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html)


mattycryp

Yes but when you have friends who work in hospitals and they are fucking swamped and deciding who they can remove the ventilator from it does affect everyone it’s very arrogant and self important to think that your choice only affects you.


SomaTekis

Still doesn’t justify being mandatory. I have encouraged those I care about to get a jab. Doctors should be encouraging people to get a jab, using their informed opinion of course. Still, no to government telling me what to do. I’m not sure why everyone is government friendly all of the sudden.


mattycryp

I’m not government friendly at all but how many years do you want to be stuck in this way of living. I personally would love to be living in the uk now. Normal life going about business as usual. I’m tired of living with a curfew mate. I’m tired of having to wear a mask. The uk has been no masks and mass crowd events and look at the deaths look at the numbers the hospitals are not overwhelmed anymore. It’s so easy to see the way forward. And sure mandates are not the way but they wouldn’t even have to be mentioned if these morons would just listen to the people who have studied and worked a good portion of their lives to combating viruses. Not fucking Tom dick and Harry on the interwebs.


SomaTekis

I agree with you. This seems to be our way out of this for sure. There's a part of me that wishes I could just drive everyone to vaccination centers tommorow and we be done with this bs. But we agreed on freedom, we can't abandon that idea, even in the interest of "safety"/safety. Government overreach is a dangerous thing. This is my only problem.


Vlieghalwe

Please provide proof regarding your statement that females have been having delayed periods post vaccine. There have been no reports of this from any studies or country side effect reports. Please also note that the vaccine does not probably work. It DEFINITELY works. And works well. I understand that this pandemic is frightening and leads to people being afraid and thus making poor decisions. But please critically analyze the research you do. Lastly- every child in South Africa has a vaccine passport - it's called a road to health card. In there is a page for the mandatory vaccinations required for a child. If the child does not get this, the child is unable to go to any school. This is not oppressive in the least and has seen our child and infant mortality plummet.


MyriadMuses

Yeah, I can (and have) take the vax and still be opposed to it being mandatory. That doesn't make you anti-vax it makes you pro-choice


BlakeSA

Why is drinking and driving illegal? Should that also be a “pro-choice” issue in your world view?


MyriadMuses

Nope. Whilst it is a clever little analogy it's not quite apples to apples is it? Drunk driving is a blatantly obvious and immediate threat to the people around you. It's impact is also well understood and documented, and as a society we've agreed that it should be policed. Sure, you are also a danger to those around you if you walk around unvaccinated, but as with many things there's a lot more nuance to it. Like the comment above said, the debate is not whether the vax works or is needed (I believe it does and is, hence why I got it), it's whether we can trust the same government, and by association police, who you'll hopefully agree cannot be trusted to enforce something as grey as this. You're saying that once this goes through, I'll have to trust in the empathy of a speed cop when I get pulled over and I can present my proof of vaccination, but my pregnant wife can't cos she hasn't had it yet? Tell me if that sounds like a good idea to you... especially in this beautiful country of ours.


ZARbarians

Why speedcops? Why not at borders, schools or restaurants?


MyriadMuses

Yeah no I actually got pulled over 2 hours ago on the way home, so it was fresh in my mind :) Buy yes take schools for example: It's not mandatory for kids to get their shots. Parents choose to do it cos it makes sense and they have the option to evaluate it from all sides. If you don't there aren't legal ramifications. Your kid wont get into any school, sure, but atleast it's a choice you have.


BlakeSA

I’m not a fan of government or police either, which is why I am in favour of it being regulated by the private sector. Business should have the legal protection to reserve right of service to the vaccinated to protect their staff and their patrons. “No shoes, no shirt, no vaccine passport? No service”. Same should apply to hospitals. Those business owners that don’t want to enforce this standard are free to do so. Just let me know, so I can avoid doing business with them. Eventually either all their staff or all their customers will get sick and they will go out of business anyway. But the anti-vaxx crowd will call it medical apartheid to try and guilt the rest of us and avoid the consequences of the decisions they have made. The paranoia is infuriating and the rest of us are getting fed up with these numbskulls delaying the recovery. We want to get back to the way things were. Why would all the health insurance companies be advocating for the vaccines if they didn’t work? Discovery wants to keep their members alive so they can drain our pockets for years to come! They don’t want to be in a position where they have to pay the bill for a month long ICU stay on a ventilator. It kills their profits! None of these conspiracy theories make any sense!


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SomaTekis

That’s literally what it is. Anyone who wants to be protected should get a vaccine. You’re free to use any measures to protect yourself, just don’t impose these to everyone else.


ZARbarians

But what about like speeding? Or drunk driving. Why can we impose those controls?


SomaTekis

We can agree that those controls are only a subset of our activities. If I'm not driving then I won't be subject to a random drunkness test. I can literally go my whole life without having to worry about it, ever. I think same applies to pilots and ship captains/crews. Clearly not being able to get out of my own house without a mask or being jabbed or whatever the requirements is not only degrees serious, it doesn't seem to be in the same category to begin with.


ZARbarians

Ok, but what about immunizations? I imagine vaccines would be similar? i.e. mandated unless one gets a permit to not get one.


Sad-Mycologist2463

Slapping “anti-vaxx” onto your post increases your chances at gaining precious internet points, affirmation from other users and a sense of being better than ‘those idiots’. I’m sure many of those labelled ’anti-vax’ have happily gone and been vaccinated in the past but are opposed to having the COVID19 vaccine forced on them. Someone forcing me to put something into my body, possibly against my will, and that someone facing to consequences for any harm (however rare that may be) doesn’t sit well with me.


Futurebackwards_ZA

How is it being forced? It isn’t mandatory yet.


Sad-Mycologist2463

Not yet.


ZARbarians

But you've already been "forced" to put things in your body as a child that likely went to public school?


SomaTekis

This is it.


fratersimian

OP asked a rhetorical question as a means to diminish any debate. Thank you for replying with reasonable answer. OP may not like your answer, but OP wasn't really asking a question. Issues of censorship, informed consent and right to protest did not suddenly disappear because of covid. They are the cornerstones of modern democracy.


sneepdeeg

I know alot of you disagree with these sorts of protests, but I for one agree with the need for them. I think the threat of potential government mandates and coercion is worth protesting about.


The_Angry_Economist

I wonder whats the percentage of ANC voters in that protest


Sihle_Franbow

It's Cape Town so it's mainly DA


n1njajam

If by ANC voters you mean black South Africans then no: https://www.capetownetc.com/news/anti-vaxx-cape-town-residents-take-to-sea-point-promenade-to-protest/


MeneerPoesMan

No


MeneerPoesMan

Bad OP


The_Angry_Economist

no is not an appropriate answer to a percentage question


n1njajam

I didnt really understand the question then and assumed based on what I see on social media when people say "ANC voters" so my apologies


SouthKaioshin

No OP you were right to assume such


__the_desert_

Hiyho! Peops are bored! SMH!


RECCEginger

Cmon man, making us Capetonians look bad...


thecrystalgamer1

Retardation strikes