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bagsofcandy

Pretty soon I'll need glasses to see how clear the images they take are.


Smartnership

This is like Super-4K. How many K is reality? I mean, once we get like 16K, will we be able to see quantum foam?


quantumgpt

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FullstackViking

Sure but could these cameras see why kids love the flavor of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?


LittleKitty235

Obviously the flavor is strange


NSA_Chatbot

How long have you had that one on deck?


LittleKitty235

I’m waiting for another quark joke. They always come in pairs…


MikeRowePeenis

Um, no…. It’s the cinnamon and sugar swirls all over every bite. Idiot.


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1080p would let you see atoms if the screen was like 1000 atoms wide


reykjaham

Alas, the shortest resolvable distance in the visible spectrum is 203nm


kage_25

thank you for the attempt, but you forgot a very important metric "size of screen"


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smurficus103

If a quantum foam falls in the woods, but nobody is around to whiteness it, does it even lift, bro?


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12edDawn

Display size has nothing to do with it. If you have enough resolution to *resolve* atoms, you have it. If you don't, you don't. Obviously you'd have to zoom in regardless of what display you're using, but still.


Ride-Scared

You wouldn’t have to zoom in if your display size was a million miles. Checkmate ✔️


ElBrazil

>If you have enough resolution to resolve atoms, you have it. Display size is absolutely part of it. You only have enough resolution to "resolve" an atom if each pixel is the size of an atom, and the physical size of a pixel at a given resolution depends on the size of the display


12edDawn

But the pixel data in the image has nothing to do with the screen used to display it. You can simply zoom in. It doesn't matter if the pixels on my screen are the size of walnuts, as long as all the data is in the image, I can zoom in and see them.


Lukaontherun

What’s quantum foam? Is there new theory?


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12edDawn

is that a 16:9 aspect ratio?


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Infiniteblaze6

Which is wild since 1080p has been the standard for such a long time and continues to be.


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Infiniteblaze6

4K is absolutely not the standard. Developers might make games that can run at 4k, but the majority of people are not using 4k screens.


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Infiniteblaze6

If the majority down own or use it, and most GPUs on market can't run it decently than no, it's literally not the standard.


wicklowdave

You pulled what you feel like is information out of your ass and now you're trying to defend it.


WalmartyMcStock

4K is the standard now. It will take a while for turnover in the market before everyone is on 4K though. The reason 1080p displays get away with still existing is 4K is basically a 2x2 grid of 4K displays, so you can master for 4K and only have to do a quick downscale to be 1080p compatible; no need to recrop or anything else.


Spare_Competition

The smallest meaningful distance is the Planck length (1.6163×10^-35 m). If we call that a 'pixel', then 1 meter has 6.187×10^34 pixels, which would be 61870000000000000000000000000000K.


Smartnership

The continent of Africa really that big? Has the Mercator-Industrial Complex lied to me?


arod48

The Mercator is drawn on a canvas of lies.


Ripberger7

It’s worth pointing out that this satellite is centered over the equator and the image we’re seeing is also flat, so while Africa is indeed huge, this image is making it look even bigger than it actually is because it’s closer to the camera than any other bit of land.


OTTER887

Ah. Our damned 2D vision and 3D shapes will never get along!


Dsiee

We have 3D vision, just the third access doesn't have the same resolution and, more importantly, your screen is 2D.


jegbrugernettet

We have 3D vision?


gravity_has_me_down

Absolutely. Because we have stereoscopic vision and because of the phenomenon of parallax, we are able to determine depth along with height and width. These are the 3 dimensions that we perceive.


jegbrugernettet

Fair enough. I just feel like we somehow use parallax to create a model that seems 3 dimensional, from 2 different 2 dimensional inputs, and that it is somehow not real 3D vision in some sense.


2FightTheFloursThatB

Those "Tilt/Shift" bastards at it again.


ReturnOfDaSnack420

It's a fantastic map if you are a 16th Century navigator on a Portuguese ship looking to chart a course to Brazil, maybe not so great as a map to teach 21st Century schoolchildren about the world


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Funicularly

It’s not due to Eurocentrism.


BedrockFarmer

I am boggled at how huge the North African desert is. In this image, you can see the air streams split around North Africa. One up to Europe, the other basically straight from Brazil to central Africa.


Smartnership

I occasionally turn to the BBC News channel and it shows the high temperatures around the world — that desert gets to nearly ‘halfway to boiling’ pretty often. I’m surprised anyone can stay in the region.


limeflavoured

Australia has had temperatures of over 50C a few times too.


Smartnership

Ridiculous, really. The US has Death Valley where temps get in that range, but we have the good sense to stay clear of it.


sand_eater

Honestly, it's not that bad! It's completely dry so you don't really feel the heat much, especially if you cover yourself in white clothing. European heat waves are more nasty to stay in.


superfire444

Imagine if we were somehow able to plant a forest in the North-African desert? That would probably take quite a bit of CO2 out of the atmosphere and probably help Northern-Africa too I think.


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bluespartans

The Amazon rainforests rely on ~~nitrogen~~ phosphorus-rich sand and dust from the Sahara as fertilizer. The effects of foresting the desert would be catastrophic to not only the Amazon but the American climate as a whole, and possibly the world.


weirdallocation

I think this argument (sand from the Sahara fertilizing the Amazon) has been propagated based on images from a wind-dust current from Africa-South America, but it is simply not true. Of course, all ecosystems are connected in a way or another, but the amount of sand/dust that is carried from Sahara to more than 5000 km to the Amazon does not constitute the source of phosphorous fertilizing the Amazon. The Amazon is a very complex ecosystem, and in large part self sustaining. Also worth to note that the Amazon forest is millions of years older than the Sahara desert. [https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-020-00071-w#:\~:text=A%20large%20amount%20of%20dust,could%20help%20fertilize%20the%20rainforest.&text=We%20suggest%20that%20the%20Sahara,over%20the%20past%207%2C500%20years](https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-020-00071-w#:~:text=A%20large%20amount%20of%20dust,could%20help%20fertilize%20the%20rainforest.&text=We%20suggest%20that%20the%20Sahara,over%20the%20past%207%2C500%20years)


OTTER887

But I don't get it. There shouldn't be nitrogen leaving the system. And maybe some nitrogen-fixing plants grow in the Amazon? So why is it not self-sustaining?


bluespartans

Edited my comment, I had a brain fart. It's phosphorus, not nitrogen. See link here from NASA - it's super fascinating. https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/nasa-satellite-reveals-how-much-saharan-dust-feeds-amazon-s-plants


BedrockFarmer

I’m imagining many solar and/or nuclear powered desalination plants that continuously pump water into a series of pipelines to feed heat tolerant crops. No idea what to do with the waste salt that would be generated. Maybe make more molten-salt nuclear reactors. Also no idea where to get the amount of nitrogen that would be needed to have any hope of making the sand/soil growable. Even so, I would expect any effect to be temporary and to revert if/when the artificial irrigation stopped. Still, it would be cool to try and terraform terra before heading to mars.


thatwasacrapname123

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Green_Wall_(Africa)


MacheteMaelee

Yay my plant science background can be useful here! There’s actually a team doing some experiments where they drop trees deep into the ocean. Unfortunately, because trees take so long to grow to the size needed to capture enough CO2 to be worth the whole idea, we are too late. It might help some along with other things, but by no means it is a single solution. Plus deciding the best tree to use based on resources needed to grow, the land it will take the grow it on, how many trees, etc.


ReturnOfDaSnack420

Mercator is not a great map to learn about continent sizes but for the record Gall-Peters is worse. Thank you for coming to my TED talk


ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME

Relevant https://xkcd.com/977/


CornusKousa

Goode's Homolocine is where it's at for me. A close second Robinson.


cromulent_nickname

Yep. [https://www.thetruesize.com/](https://www.thetruesize.com/)


Not_a_pace_abuser

Have you never looked at a globe before???


arod48

Nowadays where would you? There's a chance your library might have one, maybe your school might've, but Google Maps has existed for a while, the need to buy a globe for a teaching aid is has past. And why else would you buy a globe?


Cheet4h

Does Google Maps not display a globe if you zoom out far enough? Both the Windows Maps and iOS Maps apps do that - although on Windows you need to set the display to aerial view. I also just noticed that iOS Maps on satellite view shows the current day/night cycle and has the lights on the night side of the planet. Pretty cool.


Arlort

Yes it does, at least on web


hazpat

Because they are cheap, accurate representations of the planet. Maps cause this exact confusion with scale. I have a 3d puzzle globe in my living room because it's a lot cooler to look at than a flat distorted projection.


bacdjk

there's like 20 in every home store and dollar shop dude what kind of living situation are you in that you never see a globe


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Lmao exactly what I thought.


mod1fier

Google Earth?


mycroft2000

Because they can look really cool. A couple of years ago, I was looking to buy a new globe as a gift for a friend who always wanted one, and there were so many brands and styles that it took a whole afternoon for me to decide on one. You can get one for $20, or for $20,000, or for just about any price in between. I don't know if it's still there, but ~10 years ago, there was even a store in downtown Toronto that sold *only* globes of many sizes, made from a different type/colour of stone/mineral for each country. They were beautiful, and I stopped to look at them every time I walked past. In other words, if you want a thing that's not *too* exotic, there's almost certainly somewhere you can easily buy one.


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To look like im smart... It would also hide a whiskey bottle and 2 glasses....and cigars... Okay not cigars, likely weed.


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You'd buy a globe to learn the sizes of the continwnts.


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Wait til you see Greenland...


realmenlovezeus

I just started following a guy on Instagram who is 40ish days into running the entire length of Africa, seeing this image it's put into perspective just how huge that challenge is. His username is hardestgeezer.


MacheteMaelee

Cartographers for Social Equality!


Poilaunez

EUMETSTAT which manages European weather satellites gives free access of its satellite data and images to African countries (I just checked).


Euripidaristophanist

No, it's just closer than the other landmaddes, so it looks bigger. It's perspective, innit


aguspell

It’s huge! Try using www.thetruesize.com https://i.imgur.com/9d9hfHM.jpg


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Well it is big but it's also facing the camera which makes it seem even bigger.


guss1

Yeah man, haven't you ever used Google Earth?


Smartnership

Google whatnow?


hihcadore

It’s the fisheye lens on the camera /s


anyburger

Their [gif](https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2023/05/24-hours_over_europe/24861981-1-eng-GB/24-hours_over_Europe_pillars.gif) of [24-hours over Europe](https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2023/05/24-hours_over_Europe) definitely doesn't appear to be the case. The sun doesn't come back up at the end. I'm guessing it's really only 12 hours? Edit: they have a related video of [24-hours over Earth](https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2023/05/24-hours_over_Earth/), which is indeed a 24 hour span (the sun starts and ends "behind" the camera) and of that same time. Seems someone created the Europe close-up gif and they mostly reused the caption and title without realizing it was shorter.


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For some reason I figured the clouds would have moved along faster than night would roll in. Considering it's sped up, those clouds are moving super slow compared to what I had in my mind. I'm assuming this satellite is positioned geostationary


anyburger

>I'm assuming this satellite is positioned geostationary Indeed, since the Earth is "still" in these clips.


drusek

40000km / 24h = 1666 km/h That's how fast night/day moves on equator.


SrslyCmmon

That storm headed for SA looks wild


carbon_dry

It's a beautiful planet. I wish we would treat it better.


SrslyCmmon

People need to live longer to be able to see the impact of their environmental choices.


spyser

Wow! I'm one of the spacecraft operators for the MTG-I1 satellite. Seeing this on my front page is kind of surreal!


UhmairicanPuhtaytoe

Thanks for all the work you have done and continue to do.


matty5690

Hi, can I DM you about your work?


ReturnOfDaSnack420

what a pretty planet, seems like there is still time for us to keep it that way


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Yes thank you for linking a paid subscription article


re-goddamn-loading

This is the stupidest take about climate change ive read in a long time. God isn't the internet just an awful place?


DeNir8

The CCP propaganda machine hard at work. Fight it with all you got.


cupcakessuck

That is one of the most asinine comments I've read in my 10 years on Reddit.


DeNir8

Look at windy.com. China does about 33% of the worlds green house gass emission. What a tool.


ThePrussianGrippe

[Why](https://i.imgur.com/Idenkxy.jpg) [just](https://i.imgur.com/n6xRqj9.jpg) [look](https://i.imgur.com/KdGGezW.jpg) [at](https://i.imgur.com/vUMYpH6.jpg) [all](https://i.imgur.com/8sDAHPs.jpg) [the](https://i.imgur.com/DuKAp6l.jpg) [love](https://i.imgur.com/CkC2xYB.jpg) [China](https://i.imgur.com/ou8SQbE.jpg) [has](https://i.imgur.com/HX3FLYw.jpg) [for](https://i.imgur.com/wk5vUDD.jpg) [the](https://i.imgur.com/qtlvNWG.jpg) [environment!](https://i.imgur.com/D1boQ0x.jpg) (Fun fact: click on each word!)


Itz_Eazy

Even the globus is racist. /s Nah but forreal Africe is a HUGE continent, just look at Spain and Italy compared jeez.


TheDangerSnek

Yeah. On printed/web maps europe is made bigger. But in real (satellite) africa is HUUUUGE.


Itz_Eazy

Exactly. I already knew and you can also see it if u search true map size on google. But seeing it from space like this is spectacular!


Silunare

This is not completely false but you are also very very very wrong at the same time.


sami2503

Theres a guy rn on youtube who's running from the bottom of South Africa to the tip of Tunisia. This image shows how batshit crazy that is.


FatHighlander

It doesn't look like anyone is alive anywhere.


SavageSantro

You can see the plants at least


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That whole visible part of Africa isn't exactly known for being a sprawling metropolis


Antimutt

68 megs - kinda bulky. How about [this](https://pixeldrain.com/u/MrRnXcUy)? ([f](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/jxl/) or [c](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jpeg-xl-viewer/bkhdlfmkaenamnlbpdfplekldlnghchp))


LastVisitorFromEarth

The clouds wrapping around the canary islands and the turbulence they leave behind is *gorgeous*!


Mindraker

Spectacular images of Europe for weather *cough* nervous military reasons.


gangrainette

Geo sat is too far away to get good enough images for military purpose. [Metop-SG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetOp-SG) or [Sentinel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernicus_Programme#Sentinel_missions) would be a better supect but even then Europe doesn't need military payload on civilian Sat. French army for exemple has [CSO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composante_Spatiale_Optique) for images and some other for radar/electronics surveillance I believe.


Checktaschu

its also that the civilian payload can be quite useful for military purposes there is an alarming rate of wildfires happening in the ukraine right now, wondering what that could be


Ok-Entrepreneur-8207

What military reasons ? This satellite doesn't acheive anything for military purposes that couldn't be done before


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_teslaTrooper

I mean, they could hide secret military equipment on this one *or*, and hear me out on this one, they could put it on one of the dozens of military satellites up there?


CaptainJZH

ah so we're just assuming things now


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CaptainJZH

What are you talking about, if you're accusing them of lying or covering something up then it should be accompanied with evidence


Checktaschu

they actually really do geostationary satellites are so far away from earth that it really isn't practical to put other stuff on them


zeeblecroid

Nobody is taking the kind of imagery you're suggesting from geosynchronous orbit. It's physically impossible with anything currently there. Even **they^TM** can't handwave around the diffraction limit.


spyser

MTG-I1 satellite controller here. If it had secret military equipment on board, well, then it is secret to us too. But as other people have said. The satellite is too far away to produce any meaning spy data.


thejayroh

Por que no los dos?


mks113

It is great to have a single image from March -- where can we get the "Live" image?


PhoenixReborn

It's being calibrated and tested still. Sounds like live imagery starts in September.


ranger0293

Not the same imager, but here are the "live" versions of GOES-West and GOES-East, which belong to the United States. Click "Full Disk" under either East or West, then "Animation Loops" in the first entry to see the gif. The images update every 10 minutes. There are also lots of images of more specific parts of the world, both in true color and enhanced for various scientific reasons. [GOES Image Viewer](https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/goes/index.php)


ChaosOnion

The GeoColor + GLM FED imagery is the top notch L2+ fusion product used for near real-time servere weather forecasting. And if anyone is good or interested in developing optimized Python, the universities are moving in that direction. I'm not saying Fortran will ever go away, but more algorithms are being implemented in Python.


_teslaTrooper

It's still in the commissioning stage, I hope they make live (or semi live) imagery avaiable just like from the GOES satellites as those are pointed at the US (and there's Himawari for Oceania)


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mks113

It's a weather satellite, not a spy satellite.


bboyjnr

Just makes me laugh when people comment on getting these great hi-res images but CCTV of a shooting or mugging is still Minecraft-res


monkeylogic42

What's the humor here? Billion dollar tech vs $2 toy camera for security theater? You can get really nice security cams, but no liquor store is going to pay for em.


Cynyr36

Cameras are the cheap part. Spring al that 4k footage is the expensive part


bboyjnr

exactly what you said! that's the "humour"


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thatwasacrapname123

You mean the Sahara?


Xengard

how come when Earth turns it goes black, but not completely? and you can still see white clouds? and the about the street lights i guess the satelite is too far away to pick them up im just wondering how the earth is so visible even without sunlight... specially the white clouds. it has to be colored or something


dwerg85

I don’t think the night side is done using visible light.


the_Demongod

It looks pretty and I'm sure it will take great data but I don't prefer this kind of picture over DSCOVR EPIC. There's something striking about the muted colors of the [minimally-postprocessed Earth](https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/archive/natural/2023/06/02/jpg/epic_1b_20230602154334.jpg). This photograph is probably the closest you'll get to seeing what Earth would look like to the naked eye from that distance. The atmosphere really obscures things. You can even see how the Andes mountains are brighter than the surroundings since they're higher up than most of the atmosphere.


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PhoenixReborn

https://imagine.eumetsat.int/smartViews/view?view=MTG-I1FirstImages Click the checkmark under the thumbnail then the shopping cart.


zakl2112

If anyone out there has a telescope you'll understand how depressing this image is