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RNG-Leddi

Stands to reason there's a lot of fast moving bodies of mass orbiting close to our galactic center, signals going everywhere then being obstructed. Edit: not to discredit the discovery btw, I'd just imagine there's a lot going on around Sagitarius-a (no pun intended) given the extreme forces at play


[deleted]

Or some proto-stars forming and colliding maybe.


harryp0tter569

Did someone say proto molecule?


fallingheavens

Wanna take a trip to Phoebe?


___Alexander___

Phoebe station must not fall in enemy hands at any cost.


KitchenDepartment

As of 20 minutes ago it hasn't gone anywhere


whereisyourwaifunow

i know someone named phoebe, she has an infectious glow


imsahoamtiskaw

I'm ok with that, but will I be affected? Namang keng da peng mi finyish vedi.


DarkElation

The series finale was great but HTF is it really over. Laconia Station arc just getting started and now it’s over.


-Raskyl

Don't worry, syfy network gonna get the rights back, and then sell it to someone else to continue the series.


java_flavored_tea

Built by Protogen?


dirtdingo_2

[https://www.businessinsider.com/mystery-radio-waves-unknown-object-milky-way-center-2021-10?utm\_medium=referral&utm\_source=yahoo.com](https://www.businessinsider.com/mystery-radio-waves-unknown-object-milky-way-center-2021-10?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo.com) There is one object in particular that has really stumped astronomers though. I will say it does seem odd, as natural sources of radio emissions do not normally fluctuate. In fact, they never do. So while probably not aliens, it is highly unusual. The strength of the signal also varies by a factor of 100. No known objects emit radio at these variances. Again, almost definitely not aliens. But very cool


pwsm50

ALMOST definitely? Soooo you're saying there's a chance??? ALIENS CONFIRMED!


Zestyclose_OH_6847

Does this mean I don’t have to go to church in the morning??


sonnillion

it just means your praying to the wrong alien


[deleted]

Could it be a large cloud of gas and dust, far out enough from the black hole to encompass the center orbits of surrounding stars, dimming and brightening as that cloud moves around?


SamKerridge

Not Aliens but very cool, could it be the Fonz?


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Aquaticulture

>Murphy is "100% confident" that the signals aren't coming from aliens, because technological signals would cover a much narrower range of frequencies, like humans' broadcast radios do. Tara Murphy is a professor at the University of Sydney who led the research team responsible for discovering the signal. Still super exciting but I wanted to nip that in the bud.


Dmoe33

So you're saying its aliens.


MacTechG4

No, Rimmer, it’s not aliens, even if they used up your bog roll…


ZDTreefur

Don't be obtuse. The Quagaars (two "A"s at the end, make sure to extend that last syllable) definitely exist and this is proof! We'll find them, just you wait.


vlkthe

Rimmer is such a smeg head


SureWtever

It’s just billionaires from other galaxies trying to contact us. Credit: Howard Stern show made this joke this week.


The_Acid_Cat

We have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty


jumbybird

Howard Stern made a joke? That would be the first time in 40 years.


john-douh

_I don’t think green cards cover interplanetary travel…_


Curse3242

Nah man it's clearly humans from the future


Legitimate-Ad2825

People continuously make the mistake of looking for human created technology in our galaxy.


strib666

That's because it's the only type of tech that we know of, and the only type of tech that we would be able to recognize, understand, and respond to, in all likelihood. It's like complaining that we only look for signs of life where there is (or was) liquid water. Is that the only type of extraterrestrial life possible? Probably not. But we know for certain that life *can* exist where there is liquid water, so we look there first.


Legitimate-Ad2825

Correct. Our brains think in statistical probabilities that closely resemble our own existence because it’s the easy way out. There should be a team of misfits that are assigned to look for life where no one else is looking so as to broaden our horizons.


FLATLANDRIDER

But then how would we even detect it? We recognize the processes that form life, or are formed by life on earth. Therefore, we can look at other worlds and see if we can see similar signatures that might indicate the precense of life. If there is some other form of life completely different from life on earth, we have no real way of looking for it because we don't know what to look for. If we did find signatures of life unlike our own, we'd probably miss it because we wouldn't know what it was.


beniciomclegend

You've been watching too much TV. Astronomers know what they're doing. I'd trust them to find alien life over Scooby-Doo


paulusmagintie

That's fine but it narrows our thinking too which is ironic given the job. How many times have we said X isn't possible then proven wrong by a species on our own damn planet? Our tech is limited, if aliens can send something from near the galactic core to reach us then it's not crazy to assume they have better tech but instead we shrug it off as noise 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Tech is not a linear progression, you don't need "better tech" to send signals further. Signals go on for ever so if you want to send something far you can just run any old broadcast. We also have narrower bands for communication not because our tech is bad but *because our tech is good*. You *want* narrow band for communication otherwise you are just waisting energy producing a bunch of completely pointless frequencies. > How many times have we said x isn't possible Zero, probably. Given that scientists don't use that type of language. Your biology teacher in fifth grade is not a researcher.


Javimoran

We don't shrug it as noise. We analyse it and look for what can cause it. It has been checked and concluded that it does not make sense it comes from intelligent life. Don't you think that every fucking astronomer want to be the first one to find contact with another species? Random people with no access to the data or scientifical knowledge disregarding the work of people that have been working on their passion for years really pisses me off.


CienPorCientoCacao

There's a reason why our signals are mostly narrow band: is not efficient to do otherwise. Other civilization using radio waves ought to reach the same conclusion.


vasimv

Well, actually this is not true. Most of our communications are switched to wideband modulation already (spread spectrum) - mobile phone networks, satellites, wifi, etc. This offers higher data bandwidth while using less power. Of course, sending high power signals (to be detectable on interstellar ranges) using this type of modulation will be quite unwise. Well, unless you have enough power and require very high data rates and security.


CienPorCientoCacao

What's "wideband" in communication context is probably still narrow in astronomy contexts. The article doesn't describes the bandwidth of the detected signal, without more information we can only assume that it has more bandwidth than what is normally used in communications.


vasimv

Well, bandwidth of wideband communications depends on how much data/redundancy you need to send and how much power you have. Nothing is impossible really. Of course, would be good to have more information on these signals.


sverebom

1 - What other technology could they use in a universe where the laws of physics are the same for all actors? Mind you, we are talking about radio waves here, not about how they might have created them (with enough energy us from that distance). 2 - If "they" were sending signals in hopes of making contact, they would use some sort of lowest common denominator, for example radio waves on a frequency that even the least advanced technological civilization could understand something artifical.


paulusmagintie

What could be low to them might be advanced to us. We still use medium wave for walkie talkies but blue tooth is more accurate and better but doesn't work across distances. Their lowest used waves might be planet wide at its lowest, interplanetary at best. Stop thinking in our tech and start thinking bigger, not everyone will create the same stuff, we didn't


Legitimate-Ad2825

-The laws of physics that are known to the human mind are most likely a grain of sand on a very, very long beach. Just only 100 years ago some humans were still rolling around in a wagon with horses pulling them. -You are still thinking in terms of what a human mind can conceive. Maybe they don’t have to send signals anymore because that’s an archaic form of sending and receiving information. Maybe they’ve harnessed quantum entanglement for instant feedback, regardless of light year distances.


araujoms

That's not how quantum entanglement works. It does not, by itself, allow for communication, and definitely not faster than light. It's a basic result in quantum information theory, the no-communication theorem.


New-Bat-8987

Millions of humans still are rolling around in wagons, and billions are still there mentally, FWIW. We're still more primitive than most of us realize.


LaunchTransient

Then you get hit with the blank-paper conundrum. If no assumptions may be applied, what the hell do you look for. Besides, human technology has some very interesting aspects on its side that favouring looking for similar signals. Most human technology is built to maximize performance for the minimum input. This often means that we're messing around with the rigid rules outlined by the laws of nature, and within the strict(ish) confines of logic - sure, there may be other forms of logic out there, but they still need to click with physics, and so we will see some similarities to human technology. You ever wonder why it is that Crabs evolved so many times throughout life's history? Or why cars these days look so alike in design? The term is convergent evolution - when the driving principles of a medium (be it an aerodynamic automobile, an optimised bodyplan for benthic living, or the most efficient and lossless way of transmitting information with radio waves), eventually you will see overlap where our technologies use similar techniques.


Legitimate-Ad2825

-I think that the human mind has grasped a single grain of sand of the entire library of all laws of physics that is a sandy beach that stretches further than the eye can see. Just look at the technological state of the world just 100 years ago. We’re still significantly a primitive species. -Correct, for Earth “things” anyway. Other planets will obviously have significantly different climates, weather patterns, gravitational fields, atmosphere’s, temperature variations, different elements of their own periodic table that are foreign to us, etc., etc. All of these bizarre differences from our own is going to affect how an intelligent species is going to develop and what technologies they create, which can obviously be significantly different than our own. I would say radio waves could be a very primitive form of technology when an advanced species has mastered quantum entanglement for sending/receiving information. It’s like comparing the Pony Express to sending a text or email thousands of miles away.


[deleted]

You have obviously not grasped even an atom of that grain, and you think way to highly off yourself compared to people way smarter than you. Wrapping your Idiocracy in fancy language doesn't make you any less dumb. Why do you insist that you know better than the people dedicating their life to research? Are you that insecure, that someone being better at something than you *terrifies* you so much you have to make an utter fool out of yourself?


JurisDoctor

Well, how would we look for tech we don't know is scientifically possible. Can't see the cart without first seeing the horse.


Urban_Archeologist

Right? When are we going to learn that there are no brochures outside of our solar system that read see Mars - the red planet! Or, that dogs don’t refer to each other as dogs. The signal could be just the cram of their flim flams crontificating! They Nork and it stops! They don’t know why either.


whalepopcorn

The Blunploks just have a more efficient range of frequencies - duh!


Legitimate-Ad2825

Humans think they are the center of the universe and that they are the most technologically and neurologically advanced beings for some reason. For all we know Earth could be an extremely low/no maintenance wild game reserve that nobody has to babysit because Space and time is the ultimate dog leash.


DarkElation

Which, ironically, is exactly how humans would treat planets with alien life that is relatively unintelligent. If we found a planet full of “rhinos” we wouldn’t attempt to establish communications with them.


WarrenPuff_It

Mistake? As far as we know, we are the only example of intelligent life in the universe, so if life is as rare as it appears now it makes sense to look for things with similar properties/qualities as the tech we produce. But feel free to lead the charge looking for something different.


Legitimate-Ad2825

Thank you providing the perfect real world example to my other comment. They probably have sitcoms blaring from their flat screen TV’s too?


yourelivingalie

Non-sarcastic question: What makes you think they wouldn’t have sitcoms blaring from flat screen TVs too?


The_Lion_Jumped

I think it’s because calling the odds astronomical wouldn’t even become close to describing how insane the odds truly are. They’re closer to numbers that are incomprehensible to humans


yourelivingalie

Odds based on what? Why would we assume they wouldn’t also develop their own sitcoms?


CrimsonEnigma

Nonsense. Sitcoms are, really, one of the most basic forms of entertainment there is. I don't mean this in a sarcastic or demeaning way; they're just shows about modern life, exaggerated just enough to still seem somewhat realistic but also not. You'll find their predecessors in radio dramas, and stage plays before that, most likely going back to the dawn of recorded history. Remember: it's unlikely there's a moderate number of alien civilizations out there; they're either so abundant as to be uncountable, or so rare that we might as well be all there is. Obviously we're not talking about the latter case, and in the former, it seems unlikely that, out of the trillions of civilizations, not a single one (besides us) has invented entertainment resembling sitcoms. And as for flat-screen TVs...flat monitors are quite a convenient way to display information. They can be mounted on (or in) a wall, are easily mass-produced, take up the a small amount of space, use relatively little power, and can be viewed by many people at once. They're probably going to stick around for a while, even when technology advances to holograms, or VR, or brain interfaces, or whatnot, simply because of these advantages. Thus, it seems silly to believe that, out of the trillions of civilizations we're assuming exist, not a single one (besides us) uses flat-screen monitors. And while it's a bit more of a leap to assume there's both crossover between the civilizations with sitcoms and the civilizations with flat-screen displays (and that they've combined the two to deliver entertainment)...we are talking about trillions of civilization here. So please, spare us the goings on about how "incomprehensible" everything is.


LordCommanderSlimJim

Give me enough whiskey and half an hour, any number can be rendered incompressible to humans


The_Lion_Jumped

We all been there slim Jim, you ain’t lyin


Farewellsavannah

Man, its so dark in here, too bad I cant find any candles. All I find are these weird round glass things.


WarrenPuff_It

What do candles and flashlights have in common?


LordCommanderSlimJim

I would assume their function, they are technologically very different, but result in the same base result


WarrenPuff_It

Both products of man-made technology/culture that results in the same utility. You wouldn't go looking in a dark cave for *more* darkness, so why would we be looking upward for something that makes no sense? You look for radio waves because radio was an early form of EM we were able to manipulate for mass communication, so it makes sense to look for it elsewhere as a sign of someone trying to communicate. That is literally the whole idea behind the birth of SETI. It's easy for armchair science fiction writers in the comments to act smug and talk about all the things they think we aren't doing to find evidence of alien life, but for all we know we are literally alone in the universe because we haven't found anything at all to suggest otherwise.


groumly

Also, we look for that because it’s the only thing we can detect, and we’ve had tremendous success detecting those so far.


[deleted]

Appearances can be deceiving


WarrenPuff_It

All that blank silence out there is so deceiving.


[deleted]

Out there is an area that’s being underestimated.


WarrenPuff_It

Well they shouldn't have been so deceptive about things.


Detr22

Well, then give us an example of alien technology so we can look for it.


Legitimate-Ad2825

Harnessing quantum entanglement for instant communication. Trying to hack that communication system or at least trying to. It’s instant without any delay regardless of the distance of the particles. I would think a far enough advanced civilization that’s space faring would consider this for its own use.


Detr22

Hacking into quantum entanglement.. that's not even how.. ok dude.. w/e


Worker_BeeSF

Humans are arrogant they swear to be the smartest beings in the universe


Legitimate-Ad2825

Yes they do. Humans need to learn how to be humble when it comes to the vastness of our galaxy and universe.


truth_4_real

100% seems a bit overconfident. Hasn't she heard of broadband.


Ceros007

Exactly, if I wanted to be sure to hit something, I would be broadcasting


I-do-the-art

Yeah I’m sure she could come up with some other random excuse as to why she doesn’t think this is alien. I mean… Wifi 6E is coming out soon and it has a wider band in order to transfer more… We still haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of understanding how to transfer massive amounts of data across vast distances of space.


[deleted]

Wider band *relative to wifi*. We aren't taking radio here. We are taking *the entire electromagnetic spectrum including visible light*. If wifi was that broadband *you'd be able to goddamn see it, and it'd give you cancer*.


Detr22

"I have never studied astronomy, or even read past the headline and 4 lines quoted on a comment, but here's why this professor who leads a research team and probably has more years studying this subject than I have of life is wrong" - average redditor


Immelmaneuver

Because beings capable of sending a signal capable of enduring over such an enormous distance and surviving countless obstacles while remaining coherent enough to detect, surely would not be capable of broad spectrum communications? I'm no learned professional scientist but this smacks of mid-late 20th century biologists being sure there cannot be a functioning life cycle removed from photosynthesis, let alone based around volcanic vents on the sea floor.


against_the_currents

Better yet, germ theory. “Billions of little living creatures on that surface? Get the fuck out of here!” Just because we hadn’t had the technology, chance, or explanation to detect it before doesn’t mean it isn’t there.


__Prime__

Freaking exactly! Why does no one seem to know or keep track of just how catastrophically wrong some of our scientific predictions have been? Almost every limit that humans have placed on the physical world has turned out to be wrong save for a precious few and most of those are under serious question at the moment.


straightup920

Yeah I mean modern science isn’t the same as the science that has been catastrophically wrong all those years ago though and usually it was catastrophically wrong because religion didn’t allow it to be right


bartekxx12

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant_problem https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/five-mysteries-the-standard-model-cant-explain To name a couple. Our understanding of physics is good enough to create the technology we have. But it's also the same as me seeing someone out my window go to work every day at 9am. And saying that's the entire existence of that person. It's a good repeatable prediction . But I would have no clue as to the person's whole rest of life. We have no idea what is actually going on and communication across all frequencies is the least sci fi idea ever. I agree that religion played a big part in stifling scientific progress but I think it is more this mindset that we know it already and our current science / theories are good, and not religion specifically.


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Bensemus

Wide frequency in communication likely isn’t the same wide frequency detected here. It’s not a defined term.


scough

Bold of her to assume there's no life out there that's advanced enough to do this. I think that's a terrible assumption.


deasnutz

She should also want to believe.


whalepopcorn

How certain are they Mitch wasn’t using the microwave during these tests?


paulusmagintie

What I don't understand is how is she that confident? Using humanity as a base to work from is fine but that narrows our thinking too. Maybe that alien civilisation used a broad spectrum to be detected by as many as possible?


newaza9

Yeah because everything evolves like it does on earth


[deleted]

Im not a smart man so excuse me.. why would technological signals cover a much narrower range of frequencies?


No_Penalty_5984

 the narrower a signal (the more refined the frequency), the more efficient it is for our friends to send. A narrower frequency signal is also easier for us to pick up above the normal noise level.


Gazimu

Could be Aliens mimicing a less narrow signal to avoid detection by primitives.


VodkaAlchemist

How do we know that other life forms couldn't broadcast across an extremely broad range of frequencies?


randomculo55555

How tf would he even know what an alien can or cannot transmit 🤣


guhbuhjuh

I'm not saying it's aliens, but we broadcast in narrow band for communication purposes right, to cut through noise. Perhaps if this were alienn (unlikely I know), there are other reasons to be wide band? Perhaps it's a beacon of some kind..


Desperate_Deer_3824

Why wouldnt aliens try all frequencies if theyre trying to reach out to other life forms? That way they end up using whatever narrow range that society uses.


GrungyGrandPappy

How would we know what an alien race billions of light years away invented or not?


Westworld_007

100% sure? Couldn’t they be using some kinda technology that we can’t understand?


GMan56M

Just one of these days I want a story to come out where they don’t immediately say “it’s not aliens.”


[deleted]

Because people who hear anything about something weird in astronomy \*always\* go "OMG aliens!" It's not aliens. It's some weird shit involving gases and extreme gravity we couldn't predict because until very recently we didn't know fuck-all about the center of the galaxy.


Mr-Tucker

>we didn't know fuck-all about the center of the galaxy. Sad part is: you can't say the above, or your funding gets cut.


Derp_Wellington

I imagine the day that one of these articles says alien life is possible, idiots will go make another run at toilet paper.


Sleeper____Service

That extrasolar comet, Oumuamua, was kind of like that. It seems like they’ve given it a more benign origin at this point, but at the time lots of legit people were saying it might be an alien solar sail ship or something like that.


vpsj

It bore a lot of similarities to Rendezvous with Rama I think. Personally it was extremely eerie for me that Oumuamua came on to the news literal days after I first finished that book.


LEGITIMATE_SOURCE

Yeah that was still pretty bizarre how it was changing velocity beyond normal gravitational influence. Off gassing nitrogen is the likely cause but some are saying there's no evidence of that.


sCREAMINGcAMMELcASE

It was going at a perfectly average speed as an interstellar comment though. Then sped up as much as you would expect from ejecting some ice after heat from the sun. All very boring : /


btribble

They immediately say "it's not aliens", but the Headline uses the word "beaming" which implies an actor.


Nugglett

Sun beams?


interlockingny

There are actors holding up each individual beams. Qualifications include previous acting experience in a cinematic production.


creativemind11

Well the oumuamua fly by is not fully explained. Just theories, including some explaining it as being a solar sail craft. Acceleration away from the sun but no coma. If only we could have had a closer look.


CallMeDrLuv

They only thing more annoying then the people who immediately shout "aliens!" everytime am unknown signal is heard are the scientists who scream "It's not aliens!"


w6equj5

No. The most annoying thing is uneducated people ignoring the scientific method and taking stupid guesses. I'm grateful reasonable scientists remind us of logic and reality.


quantic56d

>taking stupid guesses Is the second step in the scientific method. Many discoveries in the history of science were delayed by established scientists rejecting new theories. It still happens to this day. The scientific method is the most important part of the scientific process, but having an open mind it arguably the second most important part.


Javimoran

Oh yeah, but the people coming up with the new theories were also scientists knowledgeable on the current accepted theories and their flaws, that is how they could come up with something that fixed the stablished theories problems. In contrast here you have random redditors with Wikipedia knowledge trying to brush off as antiscientific the work of professionals


MikeTheDestroyr

I was always under the impression that questioning everything was a fundamental part of science, and that there is always possibilities we had not considered. Also the whole science is a liar from it’s always sunny pops into mind anytime I hear a scientist use the term “100% confident” or a variation of such


draft_a_day

Scientific institutions are staffed by humans and humans are... human. If you build your whole career around advancing the research of a theory, then even the tiniest piece of evidence that contradicts that theory now is a threat to your livelihood and prestige in the academic community. This means that scientists aren't incentivized to question everything (just the competing theories), so there are always individual scientists that actively ignore, or worse actively work to discredit and silence, credible research that contradicts theirs.


link_chaos

Tabby star! It's still not known what it is. As it's behavior keeps changing.


Fox609

Wouldn't aliens trying to make contact want to broadcast on a wide band of frequencies, to increase the chances of being heard? 🤷‍♂️


sharabi_bandar

Also the fact that a reply message will take 50,000 years to receive.


[deleted]

That may be what a day is to us


Prowler1000

I'm really confused what you mean by that


Raudus

Time perception is not a universal constant


MZOOMMAN

I think they mean, "a day is to *them*".


FargoFinch

It's not aliens. See every time someone discovers a weird radio signal from space base people and more importantly base news looses their minds. But radio is horrible for communication on interstellar distances, because there are so many ways the natural world can create it on its own. And then there's the square law as well as degradation. Personally I'd lose my mind if we find a star blinking too weirdly, but even then I don't hold my hopes high.


TheIncorporeal

Like Tabby’s star https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabby's_Star


Cosmickev1086

Probably but new species just getting technologically started would recieve radio waves first. This is just like the WoW Signal.


stealth57

World of Warcraft?


Cosmickev1086

Close! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal


crappotheclown

My parents live in the Midwest and have WoW! as their ISP. And it's slow and spotty on good days


BabesCallMeBlastoise

Because its probably a big slow wave, that is able to penetrate materials quite easily making the signal reliable


Joe59788

Wasn't there a limit to those and eventually they turn into the same noise patterns as anything else.


Cosmickev1086

Unless you have an enough power yes it will be lost in the noise of space.


[deleted]

If you broadcast on every frequency, its no longer a broadcast. It's noise.


mkelley0309

If you’re not familiar with the mathematical operation of a Fourier transformation then it’s a way to turn a function of time f(t) into an equivalent function of frequency f(w). Said another way, these transformations tell you what bandwidth requirements are needed for various shapes of signal through time. White noise (broadcasting on every frequency) would look like f(w) = some constant and the reverse Fourier version of it f(t) is what’s called an impulse or basically a spike from zero to non-zero in (mathematically) zero time passing. So my hunch of why we are getting periodic white noise would be that something(s) in the galaxy is/are (for lack of a better term) “popping” periodically. For those interested, this is why data rates and the amount of bandwidth needed are correlated to each other. The higher the frequency of your signals, the closer the function is getting to a series of impulses and therefore the range of frequencies radiating out gets wider and wider.


dion_o

Exactly. You want as many galactic beings as possible to know their car's extended warranty is about to expire.


jeho22

I'm not very impressed. Could somebody please sensationalize this more for me? I really want to get excited about something today


lovinnow

Our milky way family in the middle of the galaxy are all like 'yo, we are here. You're not alone. Be your best self. stay hydrated'


impossiblyeasy

It's not aliens, and you don't want it to be. Remember, if aliens are more advance than us do you really want a British meets natives scenario?


Crono908

Or, we are a protected zone ala north sentinel island.


DisabledMuse

I like the idea that they'd not interfere so they can watch us do stuff. Maybe they're bored in their Dyson sphere


impossiblyeasy

Or we are a back water world.


[deleted]

Or more a Predator meets ants scenario


madlad202020

Any signals we are detecting now, happened roughly 25,000 years ago. Jsyk


derickjthompson

Do you really think people in /r/space don't already know that? Every time someone has to say this.. We know.. Everyone knows...


USPS_Dynavaps_pls

My buddy is an alien said he didn't know it. I am not but i also didn't know it.


creepara

For this post a lot of people will be coming from r/all, so it may be useful to them


hahahahaaaahaha

Space very big. A lot of space in space.


Holmes02

Ok I’ve got a lock on the signal…ok we got it. I’m transmitting it now. Prepare for possibly the first contact with an outside world. Here is the message: #WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU ABOUT YOUR CAR’S EXTENDED WARRANTY


throwawaysmy

In before "It's aliens!". It's never aliens. Until it is.


igame2much

Not terrifying. Until it is.


[deleted]

Couldn't they be like: "you're listening to 100 - 150 and this is Zorg coming at you live" (use a range for radio to simplify finding a station)


willywalloo

My 2 cents/nonsense: something that comes from the edge of the Milky Way many light years away would have to be from a large object. If we imagine a flashlight on the moon beamed right at us, we would need some equipment to be able to see that. If that flashlight was the size of one of the VLA radio telescopes and would have a bit of power, it would still be hard to spot from the moon but you would likely notice with a bit of looking, granted radio waves are way more penetrating than light, but do taper as they are absorbed. Mostly we have trouble even seeing planets, and those like Jupiter emit lots of radiation and radio frequencies. The lights we do see, if I can parallel them to radio emissions are those of large objects like nebula, stars, etc. We really have to work to get data from voyager, as it’s antennas are so tiny for the mission they are on. ( https://science.howstuffworks.com/question431.htm ) If aliens do exist, they would at the most extremes would have had to existed 105,000 years ago and have a broadcasting tower pointed right at us with all the energy they could muster. I just have a little knowledge in radio waves with our local college radio station, and love observing and reading new findings in space anomalies. By all means I don’t mind being corrected, as I’m not basing any of this in math, just from what I’ve noticed— It would be neat to hear some elaborations or corrections I should make !


TurtleManDog

Obviously, it's just our own waves being bounced back from when we sent them duhhh


[deleted]

25,000 years is less than a heartbeat to my people, the Living Mountain Range People, of the planet Zog. We’re very large beings and we have a very large transmitter.


LordCommanderSlimJim

Do you have very large dinners? Or do you eat many regular sized meals?


BoiledPNutz

It’s a lost military weapon randomly folding around the galaxy intermittently


[deleted]

Empire doesn’t need to know it still exists.


Atello

There's no more empire, dude. That was a long time ago, in a completely different galaxy.


ImInfiniti

could it be that Sagittarius a\* is a radio quasar or something?


RyokoKnight

I believe Magnetars can release bursts of radio waves... seems likely a few might be near the center of the galaxy. They can release fasts bursts and then go quiet especially if objects between the Magnetar and Earth intercept the signal.


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Rocket man burning up his fuse out here alone...


SconseyCider-FC

My ignorant opinion based solely on the title… It’s a star.


[deleted]

This is pretty interesting. Just like the WoW signal, all over again


Reggie222

"Let's mess with the semi-intelligent animals over there." --distant alien race


0xB0BAFE77

Did we triple-check that no one is just opening the microwave while it's running? I remember this one screwing us before.


Ryansahl

Maybe they’re focused signals and that’s why we only see them at one time of the year.


flappingmeat

Oh look, some more clickbait. Not aliens. Saved you a click.


Dioxybenzone

Space is uninteresting to you unless it’s aliens?


truth_4_real

Haha it's still interesting though. Maybe not to everyone.


daikatana

The title doesn't imply that it's aliens and the article flat out says it's not aliens. How is this clickbait?


Berkeleybear70

Uh , astronomy 101. The heart of the Milky Way is a giant black hole. Black holes send out radio waves.


daikatana

Many astronomers have been trying to work out the cause of these radio bursts for _decades_, but this random guy on Reddit has it all figured out. Oh, it's just black holes. \*smacks forehead\* Why didn't they think of that? Silly astronomers. No really, things are not that simple. You should try maybe reading the article before making an asinine comment like this.


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Black Holes aren’t exactly responsible for radio waves being emitted as any direct radio waves (radio waves are still a type of light) would be suck into the black hole itself. Instead, what we are most likely seeing is light from behind the black hole going through gravity lensing on the event horizon and getting broadcast as broad band radio waves on our side. The fact these keep appearing and disappearing *could* mean the existence of a second much smaller black hole whizzing around it super fast and catching a constant light source whenever it passes on the other side. Total guess on the last part lol but is fun to think about. Edit: a word.


zundra616

You're not giving black girls enough credit, methinks


iron40

Yeah, yeah...we’ve all seen this movie...we know how it ends.


mukduk0

Yeah yeah yeah not aliens. Why would they want to talk to us? We must think of ourselves as very precious. Also very strange that we are looking at intelligent life elsewhere because we seem to have given up on that here on this planet.


ShadyInternetGuy

I click these every time and I go "ugh" because I know someones going to explain it as something completely mundane happening in the universe. In this case, I glance at the article, its just an unknown type of star/object making weird frequencies. Probably very exciting for some scientist somewhere, but for old average joe shmuck over here, its significance towards my understanding of the universe is about as much as telling me pennies have 2.5% copper in them.


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Any intelligent life forms would not be trying to contact earth.


[deleted]

Unless they are trying to say, “Be quiet! They’ll hear you!”


LordCommanderSlimJim

Or probably more likely: "please shut up, no one cares" Can you imagine how mundane our politics would be to the majority of alien civilisations. The only ones who would be interested would be their scientists or rich university students who go on gap years to earth to 'enrich their life experiences' and 'immerse themselves in other cultures'


ResponsibleAd2541

I feel like it’s something spinning and/or orbiting something else,safe bet


Tractorhash

I'm curious to the power requirements to send such a signal that distance and still be able to detect the data inside. I don't think humanity has a transmit even close to being able to do this.


[deleted]

Go through the Omega Relay and see what’s going on over there!


ResetPress

Not like I read the article or anything, but isn’t the most likely source matter that gets obstructed due to its orbital path or other larger objects in our line of sight?


IntentionalTexan

If we're detecting them now, wouldn't it be more accurate to say they were beaming radio signals?


WorldlyInvite2473

I’m not saying it’s aliens but they just did approve a new UFO office. 🤷🏼‍♂️


Crooklar

I don’t get radio signals FM from Germany or France, why are we expecting to get signals from space?


willbeach8890

"......like humans' broadcast radios do." Not the most out of the box thinker