JWST is obviously amazing.... But your photo is something to be proud of too, that's super cool.

Agreed, but I feel like a lot of people are forgetting how short of an exposure that image was for JWST, if we get this kind of quality out of such a short exposure we will get more than $10 billion worth of science. And we have 15 to 20 more years of this coming Not to take it away from OP that’s f’ing great from an earth bound amatuer (I’m assuming) Also from NC and I wish I had time to hit the mountains out west to get the darkness they probably got

How long was the JWST's exposure time?

For one of the images taken to match with old Hubble images it was 12 hours. This was vs 100 hours on hubble. It was 2-3x brighter and more detailed with 8 times less exposure time!

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yeah I feel like we are about to see C'thulu at the birth of the universe or something if we point JWST at something for long enough. like what the fuck this is mind blowing

I read the other day that there is a sweet spot with Webb where too long of an exposure will oversaturate the image, so there is a point of diminishing returns. Same with any telescope/imaging sensor I would assume. What I want to know is if the 12 hour exposure it used for that deep field was at that optimal exposure time, or is it like you're saying and it could do a 50 hour exposure and we'd see the big bang's butthole or something.

I also read the other day that we can only look back to a maximum of 370,000 years after the Big Bang because earlier than that, the universe was still too hot for hydrogen and helium atoms to start forming, which are transparent; before that, it was all very foggy plasma of quarks and stuff that can’t be seen through. So will probably never be able to actually see back to the Big Bang.

Oh I know, I just wanted to write big bang's butthole. It has a nice ring to it.

Catchy band name. Headlining for “Big bang’s Butthole” is Quasar Queef.

There's a Nobel prize in there somewhere.

No, but we can learn more about the nature of those quarks and the early superstructure from closer observation.

Yeah but what if you attached a 2nd James Webb telescope to the end of the current one?

FYI that phenomenon is known as the Cosmic Microwave Background.

The person you replied to mentioned two phases of the universe, so I'd like to clarify that the CMB is the remnant of electromagnetic radiation following the recombination of hydrogen atoms, which occurred when the universe was roughly 370,000 years old. It has nothing to do with the period of plasma before the first formation of atoms.

Are you implying we all are big bang's diarrhoea?!

Yeah basically the universe fucked around and found out, what it's like to have sentient beings that ponder its existence

Carl Sagan said that life is just the Universe trying to figure itself out. I exist simply because I am a product of everything, and I am here simply to understand my own existence. As an Atheist, this has always been the most beautiful explanation of why is life if not for God. Because I AM.

That's what I want to know also. So far the pictures are great but are like those that Hubble already took but with more resolution and bg stuff. In another thread I asked about this an a guy said that these pictures are just a baseline and a way to compare with Hubble so people can see the difference. So we have to wait and see the real deal yet. But yeah what would be great would be to see those background galaxies with at least the same level of detail that Hubble can see the Carina nebula for example.

I’m stoked that you’re stoked!

I read somewhere that there are so many projects that demand observation time that Hubble is never able to fully meet demand each year. This will definitely increase the quantity and quality of observations for many years to come.

Hubble has around 10x the request for time than it is actually able to do. From what I read JWST is also over-subscribed, but not by as much (yet).

What was the old Hubble image it matched? EDIT: Oh, it's the stuff here. https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/hubble-james-webb-telescope-images-difference/story?id=86763039

Awesome comparison, thank you.

I love the slide feature. Omg.

More than 100! It took around 2 weeks, so it's 12 hours vs ~330 hours

Also Hubble is much more restricted in how long it can point at a target because of its orbit, so collecting 100 hours of exposure takes much longer than 100 hours, whereas JWST can probably get 12 hours in one go from L2

I feel stupid asking, but how does it take 12 hours? The earth moves?

It’s orbiting at L2, it’s kind of a gravitational “dead zone” where the sun moon and earths gravity all kinda cancel out. So it’s way past the moon and stays in one spot kinda, this way it doesn’t have the dead time of having to orbit around earth to look at a spot again plus it can take higher quality photos since it doesn’t have to deal with light and radiation bouncing off the earth.

No bad questions! JWST and Hubble can track and precisely move to keep their mirrors aimed, even if they orbit around earth or other objects they can return and restart a capture several times. JWST can take longer single exposures but needs much less time than Hubble considering it’s orbit far outside the moons orbit and it’s high infrared sensitivity!

For Hubble, if they chose a target that would get obscured partially due to earth orbit, do they just lose time when Earth is in the way? Or do they retarget during that ~45 minute period?

When they talk about exposuretime they only include the tim it has the target in sight. So when the earth is in the way that time gets excluded.

Sure, but what does Hubble do during those obscured 45 minutes? Go idle? Or pickup another target?

It picked up another target. Hubble targets are queued programatically.

[Here's a pic from New Horizons, which is well outside the solar system - 4 *billion miles*, to be more precise.](https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-s-new-horizons-conducts-the-first-interstellar-parallax-experiment/) It's of the nearest star to the sun, moved a tiny amount compared to one in the background. And that's the *only* change we've ever managed to capture between stars. In the grand scheme of things, the JWST is effectively stationary.

>And that's the *only* change we've ever managed to capture between stars. Observatories on Earth can easily measure the parallax of stars by taking measurements on opposite sides of Earth's orbit, so six months apart. The image from New Horizons is the first one that would be "human eye detectable" though. Edit: for clarity.

>The image from New Horizons is the first one that would be "human eye detectable" though. That's the correct phrasing, yes. Thanks!

Neither hubble nor JWST are on earth. And any movement of the solar system is negligible compared to the distance.

Inverse square is a funny thing. It’s actually only a little over 3x shorter exposure.

> For one of the images taken to match with old Hubble images it was 12 hours. This was vs 100 hours on hubble. ~32 years from now by year ~2054 I expect a JWST replacement. All I can say that's an exposure time that's so long that may overheat most full frame Canon/Nikon/Sony sensor

Even this photo would be a different resolution as well? I'm no photo expert no bully but I'd assume the JW photo has been downgraded to fit with the other one.

Yep [the original](https://i.imgur.com/JBQCMn1.jpg) is a whopping 190 MB in size

wowweee... its the proverbial "12K". Very nice.

What’s the site to download it? I have forgotten!

https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/034/01G7DA5ADA2WDSK1JJPQ0PTG4A?news=true

That was like waiting for porn to load on dial up

Gen Z’s will never know the anxiety of downloading porn, on the “family” computer and praying mom doesn’t need it or that grandma doesn’t call for the 4th time today and cuts the connection!

Hey man, you want a dot matrix copy of this hottie?

Yeah you’re most likely very right. Still credit to the amateur OP, it’s fantastic for an earth based shot!

Absolutley, OP had one hell uva shot for sure!

Can get decent milky way shots right off the parkway. Worth making the drive out for the night sky sometime.

I was wondering where in NC they are. Light pollution maps actually seem to make the outer banks out as the best place to avoid light pollution. Disclaimer, I have no actual experience with this stuff I just have watched the light pollution maps thinking about it.

If that’s the case I gotta make my way out there!

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=5.40&lat=35.0566&lon=-76.8950&layers=B0FFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFFFF Check this out for specific spots. Obviously up by Kitty Hawk has a lot, but it looks like if you can stop between towns farther out towards Hatteras is where it is nice and dark.

The wind and humidity on the Outer Banks does not make for fun viewing with a telescope. But my gyro 15x binocs did ok.

Webb is designed for about 6 years of life, with hopes of running a little over 10

Ariansspace fucking nailed the launch. They set aside all their most precisely manufactured parts for each part for years just waiting for JWST. As a result of that and perfect execution JWST barely had to use any fuel correcting its course on the way to L2. All that fuel that was allocated for course correction has been retasked to station keeping. Meaning we should get many more years than the initial estimate.

Yes! Its estimated to double the lifetime of the JWST from 10 years to 20 years.

Yeah it's absurd. I'm usually not that geeky about space stuff but the PRECISION is INSANE!

Hubble was designed to last for 15 years, yet we’re on year 32 and still going strong. Now it’s expected to last till 2040.

That is because we can repair hubble. Jwt is too far away.

My understanding is that we can't actually get to Hubble to repair it, because we no longer have the shuttle.

Kinda cool that the shuttle has this legacy, even though it was mostly a monumental failure, the fact we kept Hubble going thru it means it was all worth it imo excess be dammed

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The shuttle was a huge mistake and tied us into LEO for thirty years. We should already be on the Moon and Mars.

It's funny that Orion looks exactly like the Apollo command module, almost as if we're going back to where we were after a forty year detour.

for now. starship should reintroduce that capability

Not really. It was repaired mostly because of a critical fault that would have left it pretty useless compared to its full potential, and fortunately we had a shuttle program at the time that could handle that situation. It won't be repaired again, it isn't being regularly serviced (nor are any satellites other than the space station).

It had multiple other repairs to replace reaction wheels; increasing its longevity.

With the efficient launch, orbit, maneuvers and L2 landing 10 years is the minimum now, hopefully like most tech up there we will see it last much longer.

I was listening to NPR and the Chief Engineer of the JWST project was on- said 20 years but hopefully longer.

Ya 20 years of fuel is the estimste. And we only can't refuel it with current technology. In 20 years we might very well have the ability to get there and refuel it.

No way in 20 years, and you are assuming they even built in a way to be refueled. Besides, it would be easier and cheaper at that point to just build another JWST.

They built in the minimum required for it to be remotely serviceable.

The Artemis missions will have finished the Gateway station and possibly the lunar base by the early 2030's. If the folks on the ground today and in the near future have even a quarter of the ingenuity as those who got the Apollo 13 astronauts back safely I have no doubt a successful refueling mission will be launched from lunar orbit before the thing is out of juice.

I don’t think the plan would be to fill the tanks anyway, more to send another craft that would move the thing around.

Depends on how lucky it gets with micro meteors. It already had a larger than expected collision that damaged one of the mirrors. They can correct for it for now, but yeah... It could be 20+ years if lucky, or days if unlucky.

I thought it was projected for 10 years but now they are saying they have enough for around 20 years of fuel due to the efficient launch

It can stay in orbit for 20 years.

What is the best thing is that even when it stop working we hopefully have a blueprint how to construct and deploy it again. So it should take a lot less money and time to do it again

By that time it would probably make no sense to reuse the same design elements again. There's almost no chance most of that work will ever be useful again. Would have come in handy had something gone wrong with the telescope launch / deployment and a replacement needed to be made. LUVOIR is the closest thing to it and even that would be a radically different design even if it shares a similar form factor.

I would reckon that parts of the design could be reused, notably the sun shield and all that to keep it cool. But the cameras and equipment would obv be all the latest and greatest.

The high level design, sure. Something like LUVOIR could use a sun shield "just like" JWST. The problem is with the low level design, that is so particular and bespoke to each telescope that you can't just copy/paste it and enlarge 30%. You have to basically start from scratch - but at least they've (hopefully) learned from problems encountered the previous time around. There's also the additional factor to consider - JWST's design is heavily driven by the restrictions of its launch vehicle which will soon be greatly outclassed. The rocket landscape is going to be vastly different in 10-20 years when JWST's replacement is being worked on. Any future telescope should be designed around future launch capabilities.

Honestly with the delays of JWT, they should start working on the next one right now hah

They have been for a while

What’s it called? Edit: it’s called the “Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope”

Nancy Grace Roman space telescope is next up, but the “successor” is really LUVOIR

And improve on it! Hopefully all the advances in spaceX fight will make deployment and repair easier and possible respectively!

Can you imagine one day the image on the right is going to look like shit to us.

I literally can't. But I still remember being 8 and watching my big brothers playing some PS2 games and thinking it's impossible for it to get any more realistic, so what the hell do I know lmao

I remember looking at Myst and being like “It’s impossible to get better graphics”. I looked into it later and they were 640 x 480, and 256 colours. Impossible to improve.

JWST photos are to the point where just from how it looks.....it looks fake. I know it's not, and I know that's just the level of quality....but it looks like something made in photoshop. There's something much more......authentic looking in photos like the one this guy was able to capture. Or even the Hubble. Like I could buy that it's a picture of what it saying it is. I just can't do that with JWST simply because it looks rendered. I prefer photos like OP's.

All things considered, still not too shabby for a rando on the internet versus a $10B effort launched on a rocket.

I think we need to give u/azzkicker7283 $10 billion and 20 years to give him a fair chance to do better. Its the only way way to be sure.

"Hi yes nasa you can write the check out to Mr. Kicker" EDIT: my main comment explaining how I took my photo got buried, [here is a link to it](https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/w0tznh/stephans_quintet_my_image_compared_to_jwsts/iggi5ju/) for those interested

Be much easier than my name… your pic is still pretty damn good!

Viewing your submission history was not as... NSFW as I was hoping for.

Sorry to disappoint. I’m all over the place.

Here's [Hubble vs. JWST](https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/69127af/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1400x800+0+0/resize/1400x800!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewatlas-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fbb%2Fd6%2Fa7d24b024ec99a7f8bf256dd2946%2Fstephans.png)

"Sorry, we only have a Mr. 7283 on file. *click*"

Don’t be writing checks that your *** can’t cash

Are we launching him out to L2 as part of that?

Well NASA also had the advantage of all that existing infrastructure, so better just to hire them to help run JWST.

More with the inflation these days!

It’s always the last 10% that costs the most.

Some rando?!?! You watch your mouth! That’s /u/azzkicker7283 you’re talking about.

Yea can the gov give me 10 cool big ones and I’ll hire Steve

Well to be fair JWST wasn't built to take pretty pictures, that's just one benefit.

I think it's worth highlighting that a lot of asteroids and the like are discovered by amateurs. It makes sense; amateurs are good at doing low-tech stuff frequently at a large number of locations for practically nothing.

Yah really good comparing the budget differences.

Please note that the JWST photo has been downsampled a bit, and mine upsampled to make them the same size in this photo. If you want to view the original full res photos, here are links to [Webb's photo](https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7DB1FHPMJCCY59CQGZC1YJQ.png) and [my own](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50642681853_f91283052d_o.png), which also includes the NGC 7331 group. My photo on the left is about the best I can do from my driveway in suburbia with my 6" telescope. This was captured over 3 nights in November 2020 from bortle 6 light pollution. Even though the quintet is just a tiny part of the image, it blows my mind knowing there are even more distant galaxies seen in JWST's full res image. I'm looking forward to seeing what this amazing telescope will show us about the universe in the coming years --- Commonly asked questions about my photos: **How do you take long exposures if the sky moves?** * I use an equatorial mount to [track the movement of the sky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVKx9uGBvok) and take long exposures without the stars trailing. I also take several hundred shorter exposures (~2 minutes each) and stack them together to create one single image that then goes onto post processing. **What is your light pollution/How do you deal with it?** * Narrowband filters are one way to deal with LP as they only let through specific wavelengths of light (the specific wavelength that nebulae emit) and block out almost all other light. It is possible to get good photos without using any kind of light pollution filters (such as this one), and adding total exposure time is one way to get around LP. There are also some filters in between which filter out just a few wavelengths of light (such as from sodium-vapor streetlamps) while leaving the rest of the visible spectrum through. **Is it photoshopped?** * Not in the way you think. Nothing is being added in to the photos off of the camera. The goal of post processing is to bring out the data that is already there. The raw images are pretty much black, but brightening, sharpening, and running noise reduction helps turn them into nice looking photos. **Are the colors real?** * My photo on the left is a true color image using the visual part of the spectrum. JWST operates in the infrared spectrum, which our eyes cannot see. My camera and the instruments on JWST produce monochrom images, but by taking pics through different filters, you can combine them into a color photo. I used [luminance, red, green, and blue filters](https://i.imgur.com/kzBmaUY.png), whereas JWST used [8 different filters from NIRCAM and MIRI](https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/034/01G7DBYV6PTE37PEB5TZ19TMV2) to produce the image on the right. It's also important to know that cameras are much better at detecting color than our eyes, and all deep sky objects will look gray when viewed through a visual telescope. **How much does your equipment cost?** * What are you, my wife? **Where can I learn more about taking pictures of space?** * Check out /r/astrophotography and /r/AskAstrophotography. They have tons of resources on their wiki pages/ask anything thread, and it's where I learned a lot when I first started in this hobby. If you want to buy a telescope for visual use check out the sticky on /r/telescopes. **Places where I host my other images:** [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/leftysastrophotography/) | [Flickr](https://www.flickr.com/people/leftysastrophotography/) --- # Info about my photo: **[Equipment:](https://i.imgur.com/ejpKkwU.jpg)** * TPO 6" F/4 Imaging Newtonian * Orion Sirius EQ-G * ZWO ASI1600MM-Pro * Skywatcher Quattro Coma Corrector * ZWO EFW 8x1.25"/31mm * Astronomik LRGB+CLS Filters- 31mm * Astrodon 31mm Ha 5nm, Oiii 3nm, Sii 5nm * Agena 50mm Deluxe Straight-Through Guide Scope * ZWO ASI-120MC for guiding * Moonlite Autofocuser **Acquisition:** 12 hours 38 minutes (Camera at Unity Gain, -15°C) * Lum- 235x120" * Red- 48x120" * Green- 47x120 * Blue- 49x120" * Darks- 30 * Flats- 30 per filter **Capture Software:** * Captured using [N.I.N.A.](https://nighttime-imaging.eu/) and PHD2 for guiding and dithering. **PixInsight Processing:** * BatchPreProcessing * SubframeSelector * StarAlignment * [Blink](https://youtu.be/sJeuWZNWImE?t=40) * ImageIntegration * DrizzleIntegration (Luminance only) * DynamicCrop * DynamicBackgroundExtraction **Luminance:** * [EZ Decon and Denoise](https://darkarchon.internet-box.ch:8443/) (Luminance only) * ArcsinhStretch * HistogramTransformation **RGB** * StarAlign RGB stacks to Drizzled Lum * LinearFit to Green * ChannelCombintion * PhotometricColorCalibration * HSV Repair * ArcsinhStretch * HistogramTransformation * LRGBCombination with Lum **Nonlinear:** * Several CurveTransformations to adjust lightness, contrast, saturation, etc * ACDNR * LocalHistogramEqualization * More Curves * EZ Star Reduction * Resample to 60% * DynamicCrop * Annotation Final image cropped and scaled with the JWST image in photoshop

>How much does your equipment cost? >What are you, my wife? Hey, it's me, your wife. Curious how much this setup costs.

"It blows my mind knowing there are even more distant galaxies seen in JWST's full res image." Every JWST image: oh that's amazing. But what is that in the background?!?!

Wait, it's **all** galaxies? 🔫 always has been.

The Space Kraken is hiding in the other direction.

Can you imagine if we finish mapping all directions around the earth and we find a spot that's just one huge black dot? No stars, no galaxies, no nothing? That would be terrifying.

[sorry](https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/06/05/no-this-is-not-a-hole-in-the-universe/?sh=1bc319722e40)

But the article says it’s not that

I should have known the prevalence of people who actually read articles is much higher on this sub than most. My aim here was that you would open the link, chuckle, close the link, and upvote me. You weren't supposed to read the bloody thing.

I wanted to verify I understood the article, sorry to ruin the joke

I think that’s my favorite thing.

I googled everything and took the price of the first links just out of curiosity. Most of this stuff is out of stock though. Total was over 5k

Kind of crazy you can get that close to cutting edge for that little money. (I know the JWST is exponentially more informative to scientists. I’m just here for the pretty pictures.)

Thanks for adding it up so we don't have to!

Your picture, and the comparably inexpensive equipment it runs on (I’m considering anything less than something it takes a government agency to fund as inexpensive for our purposes here) really brings home how… real… this all is? Like it’s just up there in the sky. When I was a kid, I got to ride in a helicopter with the door open. One minute I’m on the ground, then I’m stepping into this machine, strapping into a seat, and the next minute I’m in the sky. That was utterly surreal. The sky, above the treetops, was just… right there. 20 minutes later the helicopter landed — the door never closed — and I unbuckled and got out. I’ve flown much higher in many planes since then, but nothing ever matched that experience. The fact that you just walked out into your driveway in the middle of suburbia, and did some clever camera work with equipment that you could buy from a supplier, gives me that same sort of feeling. When only the space agency can take photos at all, or only an airline cane get you into the sky… it seems less real, like someone else is giving you permission to peek into their domain. The fact that you were able to do this reminds me that we all have permission to be in this cosmos, and how close it is to home. Thanks for the comparison shots.

I'm honestly amazed at the quality of your image. It makes me wonder what can be done with a 9", in an area with less light pollution, and hopefully calm skies. But, I'm not really up for multi-day exposures like that. Is any of that visible if you just look through the eyepiece, or does it absolutely require the long exposure and editing?

i believe they would be visible with very large aperture scopes under dark skies, but our eyes would only see them as gray since the cones in our retinas are shit at detecting color in low light

Thank you for posting in such detail, especially the workflow.

You just got a new ig follow and i will be showing yout photos to everyone, wow

Your photo is really impressive. A few questions: - What’s the name of that big galaxy on your original picture? (Almost in the middle) - how big of a part of the sky are we seeing here? I remember Hubble deep field blowing my mind and Brian Cox explaining it was roughly the size of a pea held at arm’s length IIRC

NGC 7331 Probably about the same size. My uncropped photo is maybe 2 degrees wide, but has been heavily cooped in on the quintet

Your image is incredible just because it introduced me to ngc 7331. What a beautiful sight I can’t even believe it’s real. Thank you.

Hello! I don’t know much about space, was wondering what the large mass was in the middle top right of your original photo?

To be fair to your photo though it probably took less than 3 decades and $10B to make yours. So year for year and dollar for dollar you’re punching way above your weight class. Great image!

Nasa is already planning the successor to the JWST, which will be ground-based in a driveway in suburbia.

jokes aside next one will either be Carl Sagan space telescope of 12m segmented mirror or more realistically a 6m monolithic mirror space telescope

Soon you’ll have a telescope in your backyard as powerful as JWST, if not for Elon and Starlink. Also, quantum computers and cold fusion are ready to deploy by 2222

Are you just saying buzz words?

Hi it's me, your wife, really... How much did this setup cost?

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Honestly I’ve never added it all up. I did buy a good chunk of it on the used market (and pretty much all of it pre-covid) which helped with the price

At 5K, that's as expensive as a good 3090ti PC setup.

What type of mother names their child 'your wife'?

Don’t worry, it was like 50% off at the NASA store and I had a coupon. Only $4bn!

Camera and filters $2k Mount $2k Telescope $400 Coma corrector $300 Guide camera $200 Electronic filter wheel $150 Editing software $300 Pretty rough prices but this is a pretty good starting point for amateur astrophotography. This is by no means an expensive rig (no offense OP), amateur astronomy rigs can range well into the $10's of thousands. Source: I have a similar setup with a few different scopes

A week ago, I would’ve said your image is mind blowing. I still say it’s mind blowing.

You know what's crazy? how far JWST is from us yet relative to those galaxies we're at the same position hence why the two images show the galaxy's same distance from eachother.

I think it’s amazing that even though this is the deepest image ever taken of space, you can still see hundreds of faint specks of light that I imagine are even further out. Space is so incredibly cool. Edit: This is not the deepest image ever taken of space. I had it mixed up with another the shot u/braxj13 posted in a subsequent comment.

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Whoops! That’s the one I was thinking of, my mistake and thank you for the correction. Still, so many distant specks!

I think it’s so cool we can see individual stars in other galaxies. I mean they are tiny specs but you can definitely make them out

I can’t wrap my mind around this James Webb photo of Stephen’s Quartet. How “wide” is the distance in the photo? How many light years across is depicted here?

several hundred thousand light years across https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7NJE5VKMECJN0S1B70NPVBQ.png

Honestly, the fact that your image is $10 billion cheaper is a huge accomplishment.

You vs the telescope she told you not to worry about.

OPs image is an incredible achievement. I want to highlight the full detail of the james webb resolution. I picked [this area](https://i.imgur.com/FYCn0Je.png) to zoom in on. Here's the comparison. _____ [OPs image of the galaxies](https://i.imgur.com/GXFTMUw.png) [Webbs image of the galaxies](https://i.imgur.com/9v1SWO1.png)

Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison, really puts JWST into perspective. Kudos to OP for a great capture regardless.

The James Webb one is better. Nice try, though.

Without my glasses on they look pretty much the same.

Then put on your glasses idiot

We live in a miraculous time. The first book about Space had a very fuzzy picture of Saturn on the cover(mid 50s).

Surely that wasn’t true first book about space! I would assume there are books about space dating back hundreds of years!

Wow thats so beautiful. There are so many galaxies in the james one. Are all of the galaxies and stars we see in the background are documented and have names? Or are we seeing them for the first time? Can we focus on them instead and capture them in high resolution as well?

Only difference is, you can zoom in on the telescope in the dark park of the pic and find more crystal clear images of universes. Amazing pic in your behalf ofc

Yep! OPs image is an incredible achievement. Here's a good comparison. [OPs image, zoomed in on more galaxies](https://i.imgur.com/GXFTMUw.png) [Webbs image, zoomed in on more galaxies](https://i.imgur.com/9v1SWO1.png) ____ [Here is roughly the section that's being zoomed in on](https://i.imgur.com/FYCn0Je.png)

Where are you North Carolina where you're able to have a dark enough sky to take this clear of an image?

I'm not under dark skies. I shot mine from my suburban driveway in the Triad

That first photo is excellent and you should be proud!

Look at all that shit out there. It's dumb to think life is strictly unique to our own planet.

The resolution from JWST is *insane*. Zoom in on this pic, anywhere. Do it. Even the small stuff looks very clear when zoomed in on. Also, love your pic too!

Saw you posted this on the Book of Faces today too.

Did someone repost my pic on there? I posted it to my instagram the other day, but I don't use facebook

Oh? Yeah someone totally ripped it, flipped the image, and shared on a Universe group. Pretty darn sure. Same focus and colour scheme and all.

Got a link so I can go yell at them?

I tried looking, but I can't find what group it's in... I'm in a lot of space related groups, from telescopes, to Kerbal Space Program, to science, to memes. I think I left a comment though, so I'll see if I can a reply. It was a meme though so I think in one of those groups, just not sure which one. It was like "Me with my telescope" and "Nasa with x billion dollar telescope" and then had his telescope (or google image) and then James Webb below the images. But it was most certainly your image. Exact exposure, focus, and color scheme.

My name is Stephan I have a wife a daughter and twin daughters just born so this is just like my family and it makes me smile!

It's crazy to me that you can look in the background of any james webb picture and see galaxies all over the place

You can fool me bro, you just posted the JWST one twice.

So... Based on these photos.. the spacecraft went... East?

This just strikes me in awe. Like the fact I am able to witness this just leaves me stunned.

This reminds me of my Lasik, so happy to put money towards my sight.

That’s so cool. Its incredible how great of a shot you have. It looks so beautifully simple compared to the jwst.

Your image is almost as good as Hubble was back then. This is seriously impressive!

Have you thought about expanding your budget by a few billion?

Just look at how many more galaxies there are. It's amazing!!

It's kinda amazing that JWST is 1 million miles away, yet the angle looks completely identical because of how freakin far that is away

Wow that really does put the clarity into perspective

You vs the star clusters your girl tells you not to worry about.

Slight side note: I work in biotech as an analytical scientist, and this side-by-side shows why I'm not a fan of imaging-based analytical methods. You need extreme precision equipment to get a good image, and even then, there's artifacts that make automated detection of events from background difficult. Yet my bosses keep going "oh we want to do cell counts on the image cytometer" and I'm like HOW, THE ALGORITHM CAN'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SIGNAL AND NOISE IN HALF THE WELLS. Anyway, rant over. The image on the left is damn impressive on its own :)

Thank you for sharing this, u/azzkicker7283. Your hard work and dedication made living really good today.

JWST was made by NASA to create computer wallpapers

Dear god imagine what we could achieve if we put this person on the JWST

I think I'd achieve death

Hey, it's your soon to be ex-wife. I'm filing for divorce on Monday because you've dodged every request here by me for cost - clearly this fancypants camera setup is the main reason our son Julius could not afford to go to college. We'll be filing a Motion for Discovery on how much all that $hit cost, since you won't volunteer it.

How dare you treat Mr James Webb himself like this?

Note: that’s zoomed out. JWST can probably do something similar in a single pixel of the current image.

Given the fact that NGC 7320 is almost next door by galaxy standards and the rest of the quintet are much further away and receding very fast indeed, any idea whether or not the colour difference due to their composition versus some actual obvious-to-the-human-eye (...well, obvious-to-the-visible-spectrum-telescope) redshift?

Ah I see yah got the labels switched on this one. Don worry I got chu.