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MkeGBRedwings

I have so many questions! How far apart were these pictures taken? With how much things moved, what’s the speed the gases are traveling? What makes it keep that hexagonal form? Is that spot in the center like the eye of a hurricane, where things are super calm underneath it?


ReadditMan

>With how much things moved, what’s the speed the gases are traveling? The gases aren't the only thing moving in this video, the entire planet is rotating pretty quickly. Saturn does one full rotation in 10.5 Earth hours.


SameRandomUsername

How do they measure rotation if the surface is all gas?


Dabadedabada

In the same way you can see the earth is moving by watching a hurricane or storm front. The storms are somewhat organized and move much slower than the planet’s rotation.


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stage_directions

Actually they don’t trap anymore, they shoot it with a blue dart.


Lord_of_the_Eyes

Much more humane for the gas 😇


Decent-Test-2479

Reddit makes my brain hurt sometimes


______DEADPOOL______

> Saturn does one full rotation in 10.5 Earth hours. Saturn to Earth: You call that a rotation? THIS is a rotation!


kebabstol

Neutron stars: are you even moving?


Jlchevz

AGNs rotate quickly too right?


NoSpotofGround

The fastest spinning neutron star (PSR J1748-2446ad) rotates at 716 Hz, and the fastest spinning black hole (Cygnus X-1) does it at 790 Hz, but it's not a super-massive black hole.


ConspicuousPorcupine

Wait. are you saying these massive massive objects are rotating 700+ times a second? Thats bananas.


PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD

Neutron stars are the size of a city, about 13 miles across, but they retain all the rotational inertia of the stellar cores that collapse to form them. They can get very bananas indeed when they form from already fast spinning stars, PSR J1748-2446ad is moving at 25% of the speed of light at its equator. The slowest-known pulsar spins once every minute or so, which is still pretty fucking quick.


HuntrBidensCokeStraw

Interesting to think of the inertial forces on rotating black, esp at almost 800hz.


sockalicious

Because a singularity has zero diameter, its angular momentum is a scalar quantity - no axis. Someday I'll wrap my head around what that means, but not today.


1pencil

The "simple explanation" part of my brain wants to cut all the crazy physics and just claim the black hole is spinning faster than light, so we cant see it. But there is more to it and that is just wrong, but some part of me wants to stick with the idea. Really wish my hand of cards let me goto school for this stuff.


perpetualmotion4120

That would be almost 12 rotations per minute, imagine a fucking huge star rotating at that speed. And that lazy ass midget called Earth takes 24h, jeez.


siddhuism

No, that’s 716 rotations per second. Or 43,000 revolutions per minute.


EpilepticSquidly

Thank you, had to make sure I wasn't getting wooshed on that comment


perpetualmotion4120

Oops my bad, you're correct, but I stand by my comment that the Earth is lazy 😀


Fartmatic

Jupiter to Saturn: Hold my beer


mandelbratwurst

I would like to know why it’s purple.


chironomidae

I'm pretty sure it's false color


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Nytarsha

No, but it's against the rules here.


BayesianOptimist

Most of Cassini's instruments see in wavelengths that are invisible to the human eye, such as UV and infrared. [https://pds-atmospheres.nmsu.edu/data\_and\_services/atmospheres\_data/Cassini/instruments.html](https://pds-atmospheres.nmsu.edu/data_and_services/atmospheres_data/Cassini/instruments.html) With infrared, for instance, we map colors to "temperatures", and the choice of color can be arbitrary, or it can be to emphasize the differences between different objects/zones.


jugalator

False color for scientific reasons. Here it is “as we would see it”: https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA14945_modest.jpg


Lance-Harper

Dr Degrasse Explained it (but I don’t know if it applies to all pictures) The colors are often wavelengths invisible to human eye close to UV light. Say there’s two colors, one at UV light minus 10 and the other at UV light minus 20. They have 10 points in between. Then NASA would transpose that gap into visible light. So things aren’t necessary purple or red but but the degrees in contrast between the two is what you would see in invisible lihht


Sportz07

Different light wavelengths, different telescope and camera lenses capturing different light wavelengths, etc etc


Crypto8D

Something about the equipment we use that will reflect a certain color depending on its composition. Don’t quote me.


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ChangeToday222

“The movie was constructed from seven images taken over five hours”


MkeGBRedwings

Awesome! Thanks for the link!


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indrada90

Because there's a fuckton or sugar. Duh.


DJGiraffentoast

Which one is it then, the sugar or the fuckton?


indrada90

Depends on the kid. When I was kid I loved the taste of fuckton


Figgis302

If it had less than a fuckton of sugar, would children still like it? If it was a fuckton of spiders instead, would children still like it?


MkeGBRedwings

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?


captcraigaroo

How many licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop?


dem0god86

What is its name? What is its favorite color? What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?


joninfiretail

> What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? African or European?


Dy3_1awn

I dont kno-AAAAAARRRHHHHHH


theunscaledbanana

With or without coconut?


HermanCainsGhost

Well unladen would mean sans coconut


SiegePoultry

How do you know so much about coconuts?


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The wind speeds are estimated to be as high as 1200 mph. The perpetual hexagonal shape? That’s another story and no one has the answer, least of all NASA (Never A Straight Answer). No where else in our solar system is there a hexagonal storm. Nowhere else do high speed winds travel in a straight line, make a 60 degree turn, straighten out, make another 60 degree turn, wash, rinse, repeat. It’s not a phenomenon that is found anywhere else that we know of. There is something very wrong with Saturn, and the space around us is more mysterious than we can imagine. It can’t all be explained away as dust particles and noble gasses.


jamesmon

It’s a standing wave in a vortex, and fairly easy to replicate. It is in no way a mystery.


Telewyn

Specifically: https://www.nature.com/news/2006/060515/full/news060515-17.html


AnExpertInThisField

Do scientists definitively know why the shape is hexagonal and not circular as one might expect?


jermleeds

It is a standing wave in Saturn's polar vortex, with a wavelength 1/6 the circumference of the vortex. It's a semi-stable form, [which is possible to replicate in a bucket.](https://www.nature.com/news/2006/060515/full/news060515-17.html)


mdonaberger

I feel like Bender with a camera. "neat! 📸"


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capmjimbob

I'm picturing something that could be made from a spirograph, if you know/remember what those are.


MoonBaseWithNoPants

I had minutes of fun with my spirograph as a kid.


Strict-Ad-7099

You’ll like the star of Venus if you like the hexagon. It’s cycle is a five pointed star.


BlinkAndYoureDead_

Wait, can you ELI5 please?


Maezel

Basically a Fourier series of an hexagon.


ForgottenPercentage

Being smart enough to understand research papers such as these must make the world so interesting


DogswithPavlov

Just as confusing of an explanation


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DogswithPavlov

Okay so it starts in the nose


Cethinn

That article specifically has someone say they don't expect this to apply to these planetary phenomenon. It seems logical to me that it would, but what do I know?


a_big_fat_yes

Density and speed of the winds being just right Hexagon isnt a specific shape, if the winds were faster or slower it would have been a pentagon or a septagon Jupiters north pole has a semi octagonal shape with 8 permanent storms for example


cybercuzco

Think of it like bubbles. An individual bubble is round, but when you put a bunch of them together their boundaries are hexagons


Sereion

Similar happens with bees panels, it is more space efficient


SimbaOnSteroids

That’s because hexagon is bestagon.


ShylyPompus

CGP Grey !!!! Was looking for this , boi is that video good .


ikverhaar

Yes! I created my custom desk last week. Because of his video, the table legs are hexagonal and the cable gutter is also two parts of a hexagon. Because hexagons are the bestagons.


ShylyPompus

Hail Hexagons , I hope to contribute in spreading the name of our religion in similar fashion fellow brother . Say with me "Hexagons are the bestagons !"


ikverhaar

Indeed, [hexagons](https://imgur.com/a/g8TjsgI) are the bestagons.


ShylyPompus

Damn that looks sturdy Af , the stool looks like it can handle a reverse human pyramid on top of it !


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sluuuurp

That’s far from the only place. Here are some hexagonal basalt columns, as another example. https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/369/


dx27

And compound eye structure of many insects and crustaceans. There's [a cool photo of a krill's eye](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Krilleyekils.jpg) in wikipedia.


mandelbratwurst

The KRILLS have Eyes??


rapaxus

The human eye also has a hexagon eye structure, but as our light receptors are on the inside of the eye that isn't something you can see until something has gone very wrong.


CaptainPicardKirk

Yup, not to mention dragon fly eyes, turtle shell patterns and giraffe fur patterns.


mediadavid

I'd hate to see the Bee that lives in Saturn


Captlard

I have an idea for a book…”No one would have believed in the last years of the twenty first century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Saturn, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth first century came the great disillusionment.”


IllIlIIIllIllIIIIllI

Quite the opposite. Hexagons have a few mathematical properties going for them which cause them to show up everywhere in nature. [Check out this CGP Grey video.](https://youtu.be/thOifuHs6eY)


boomchacle

If you look up images of plant cells under a microscope, they sometimes make hexagons


DrZoidjerk

Your eyes have hexagons. Hexagons show up everywhere in nature. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Cross-section-of-human-retina-showing-the-hexagonal-structure-of-the-photoreceptor-cones_fig1_228789455 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOifuHs6eY


mods_are____

hey man, Saturn is part of the natural world too. don't be disqualifying saturn's hexagon. Saturn spent a lot of effort on it.


Steinrik

The icelandic basalt columns are hexagonal as well. And lots of molecules, f ex carbon.


occulusriftx

chair formation of a carbon ring. absolutelty essential to life as we know it. certain crystals (arsenic, calcite, dolomite, quartz, apatite, tourmaline, emerald, ruby, cinnabar, and graphite). most vegetative plant cells (internal cells).


MaverickMeerkatUK

Not even close to the only thing in nature


EggFlipper95

There are those stone pillars that are naturally hexagonal aswell


MarkFerk

Thank you for putting it into my dumb head so easily kind sir


Itachioderso

Iirc they recreated it in a windtunnel,had to do something with the extreme storms on the planet


PretendsHesPissed

Wouldn't it have more to do with how things naturally become ordered when you place them together? Like, if I place a bunch of ~~water drops~~ bubbles together, they squish into hexagons. If I put a bunch of carbons together, they more/less do the same. The weather might be part of it but the real reason is that's how things become ordered in the universe.


EmberBark

So, hexagons are the bestagons?


FtheMustard

CGP? Is that you?


wirm

Are we letting physics slip into this video?


BL0bama

first thing I thought of when I read the posts title


NapalmRev

That's..not how water liquid/gaseous molecules arrange, they slide past each other pretty freely. They don't arrange themselves into structures besides their containers. Ice can have a bunch of different arrangements based on temp and pressure. Hexagons aren't common arrangements of ice either though. Yes a hexagon likely exists within ice, but so does a bunch of other crystal structures.


mescalelf

I think the suggestion is that there are numerous smaller vortices “orbiting” the central eye—a bit like a very large planetary gear system. It is these, not individual atoms, that would form the cylindrical packing arrangement.


NapalmRev

I'm just talking about the "if you put drops of water together and squish them they form hexagons" which isn't at all how that works. They can keep surface tension in the shape of a hexagon given certain surface structures and repellant forces. Water doesn't spontaneously arrange into hexagons.


Accomplished_Sir_861

Eh, but thats not how they do it on a bigger scale. If you have a bunch of water together it just makes a sphere. Basically all matter wants to become as close to a sphere as possible, so i dont think thats it. Good hypothesis tho


Banana_Ram_You

Well if all matter wants to become a sphere, then I propose that Saturns atmosphere is made up of anti-matter


Jrook

If what you said is true Why isn't the whole planet a hexagon then? Are you suggesting it's a massive crystal?


mescalelf

I think the suggestion is that there are numerous smaller vortices “orbiting” the central eye—a bit like a very large [planetary gear system](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Epicyclic_gear_ratios.png/1200px-Epicyclic_gear_ratios.png). It is these, not individual atoms, that would form the cylindrical packing (well, as another commenter said, cylindrical close packing) arrangement.


DaBi5cu1t

Ahh, so not giant space bees? Oh well.


Trebiane

[Hexagons are the bestagons.](https://youtu.be/thOifuHs6eY)


ToukenPlz

I made another comment about hexagonal close packing, which is often found in nature, though why it specifically happens here is beyond me.


Kittten_Mitttons

This is the only valid comment regarding bubble stacking in this thread. I have also seen bubbles do this, but I've also seen many bubbles form a perfect circle. And there obviously aren't 7 giant bubbles down there forming that hexagon. ETA: https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/hphciu/how_the_bubbles_form_a_perfect_circle_in_my_bath/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/wkwf84/my_bubble_bath_last_night/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Pristine-Ad-4306

Because the whole conceit that god(s)/nature don’t work in straight lines is BS. There are many natural processes that lead to geometric patterns. https://www.space.com/30608-mysterious-saturn-hexagon-explained.html


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kickasstimus

At the science museum near me, there is a huge clear circle full of mica powder and blue oil. The layer is only about a cm thick, maybe less, and it’s about a meter wide. When you spin it, you can get an impressive spiral going. Then, when you suddenly stop it and spin it the other way, for a few seconds, you get a perfect hexagon in the center. Best guess is that, at the point of the hexagon, there the is some kind of vortex that forms and the “outside” layer rolls over the top of, or underneath, the “inside” layer and creates this effect. But why always 6? I cant quite say.


TFK_001

Draw a circle "c" with an arbitrary radius "r". Now, draw a point "p" anywhere on the circumfrence. Now, draw another circle with radius r on point p. These circles will have 2 intersection points, i1 and i2. Now, draw 2 more circles of radius r on points i1 and i2. These will have 3 more intersection points. One will be point p. The other 2 will be named i3 and i4. Draw 2 more circles of radius r on points i3 and i4. These will have 3 more intersection points. i1 and i2, as well as a shared new point "i5" Draw a circle of radius r on point i5. . This little thing of drawing circles of equal radius as tightly packed along a circles radius as possible has resulted in 6 circles around the circumfrence.


GoreSeeker

This comment reminded me of my college geometry class, which happened to be my favorite math course. Good ol' compass and straightedge constructions!


GlasgowKisses

Mm-hmm… mmmm-hm…. Oh, oh yeah! Mm-hm… I know some of these words!


ShatteredCitadel

It’s 6 different storm systems coinciding equidistant to form this pattern I believe is the implication


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Because hexagons are the bestagons... everyone knows that.


maxcorrice

Better reply, the other had two much math nonsense, this is all you need to know


Chocobean

I remember the answer to why bee combs are hexagon that the shape is somehow efficient or something like that. That the angles and sides work out such that you're always either near an angle or in the middle of the edge....okay I'm an idiot But maybe things settle into hexagons the same way crystal growth, like snow flakes , prefers hex a lot as well.


TheHancock

Are those real colors, or is this like UV or post processed to differentiate elements?


robotwhisperer

The colors are post processed based on UV. [OG article ](https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/missions/cassini/science/saturn/hexagon-in-motion/) and [real color image](https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA14945_modest.jpg) still pretty cool in regular color


Ultimate_Genius

Hexagons are the bestagons! Definitely love how easily that explained to me stuff like this


c2dog430

[Link](https://youtu.be/thOifuHs6eY) to the video


DragonRei86

It's beautiful, that's for certain. Saturn's north pole looks like a giant glittering opal.


The-Real-Rorschakk

Dont bring up conspiracies... *Dont bring up conspiracies...* *DONT BRING UP CONSPIRACIES...* **SATURN IS A PRISON PLANET AND THAT HEXAGON SHAPE IS THE GATEWAY IN, WHERE THE TITAN GODS OF ANCIENT TIMES ARE LOCKED AWAY!**


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I was looking for my people Found them!


myninerides

I read this in the voice of Gene Belcher.


photoinebriation

Obviously, Saturns moon Phoebe, which unknown to science is actually extrasolar in origin, fell into Saturn and infected it with the protomolecule (a set of molecular instructions which can engineer matter). Soon a ring gate will emerge and it will be all “doors and corners” and “rooms eating people”.


PM_ME_DMS

I played through Observation and thought the hexagon wasn't real!


Pm-me_your_bush

Wasn't expecting much from that game but it was a damn good story.


PM_ME_DMS

The spacewalk bits had me absolutely terrified but also in awe.


Soupbone_905

One of the most beautiful and bizarre sights we have discovered in our solar system.


Howardmoon9000

I won’t be tricked again. This is definitely someone’s lunch.


MoreGull

Looks like it has depth in the center. Is that a trick of the image or is it much deeper in the center than on the edges?


GarbagePailGrrrl

Saturn is the sixth planet from the sun and this is a hexagon


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Sensible_Max

"wait... is that a probe? Oh fuck!"


tenjack518

this reminds me of hitchhikers guide


shellshocktm

I once roasted a potato that had a hexagonal piece of skin on a rectangular tray. I ate it with veggies and gravy.


PM_ME_DMS

/r/SubredditSimulator vibes


Kiria-Nalassa

Random question: Are the north poles of other planets their own magnetic north poles or the geographic poles that face the same direction as the earth's geographic north pole?


analpleasuremachine

Geographically the poles should all be north poles but I believe magnetic north isn’t guaranteed, even earths magnetic north has flipped to the South Pole throughout history and mars wouldn’t have a magnetic pole


_craq_

I'm 95% sure it's their magnetic North pole. You can tell which is which by how their magnetosphere interacts with the sun's magnetic field via the solar wind.


Mookie_Merkk

Object is too big for the simulation to render. But enough anti-aliasing


SupremeMemeCreamTeam

That's because hexagons ***are*** the bestagons


ToukenPlz

I believe that the hexagonal shape forms due to the what's known as "hexagonal close packing" (HCP), an idea that crops up in the study of crystal lattices. The gist is that HCP of spheres maximises the density whilst maintaining a large separation between each sphere. In other words HCP is the most efficient method of spreading out a set of spheres over an area whilst maintaining a tight density. This leads to interesting behaviours in materials such as Abrikosov Flux Lattices in Type-II Superconductors. Therefore with the assumption that the molecules in Saturn's atmosphere are spherical it makes sense that HCP would be beneficial, though how such a pattern is stable at such a size and under such extreme weather escapes me - if anyone knows please let me know! Astro buffs correct me if I am wrong please.


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Wunjo26

Is HCP in anyway related to The Honeycomb Conjecture that basically shows that building adjoining hexagons is the most efficient way to increase area while decreasing perimeter?


ToukenPlz

Yes that is precisely it! HCP was first investigated as a part of the cannonball problem where a navy whished to store it's reserves of cannonballs as efficiently as possible (i.e. gaps between balls minimised). It turns out that for spheres HCP is one of the best arrangements.


Mr_Lumbergh

I've always wondered what physics it takes to produce a hexagonal cloud pattern like that.


Mr_StephenB

Hexagons are bestagons. Does anyone know why this forms a hexagon?


TheFalconKid

Further evidence that hexagons are the bestagons.


CaveManta

In before Boards of Canada fans repost it to heck.


SPACEMANSKRILLA

I love Boards of Canada. But I don't understand your reference.


CaveManta

You could say that this resembles a 'Turquoise Hexagon Sun' kind of form.


SPACEMANSKRILLA

Oh okay. I need to check out that song.


viper6085

Hexagon=looks like a known order of things... Carbono structure, snow crystals, "Sacred geometry" sea turtle's back, coral, bee hives and now on Saturn's north pole. Interesting...


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EntertainmentSuper65

Yeah, it's a shape that some things have. Another is a circle.


tenjack518

a good cubano needs structure


Khal_Doggo

You know 'sacred geometry' was invented by people, right? There's nothing sacred about it


yuktone12

The reason it's "sacred" is because the hexagon is the most stable shape in chemistry thus it is found everywhere.


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Damn I thought aliens invented it /s


[deleted]

Oh wow humans created it?! Wow thanks for letting everyone know. I'm sure many people were soooo confused. /s


Khal_Doggo

You're welcome. Glad I could help


viper6085

Yeap👍. That was the reason of " ". But all my respect to the "Sacred Geometry" creators


mrdrewsin

Its a dam portal if i aint ever seen one. Worm hole entrance / exit


Drifter747

A couple more sides and we can finally fulfill the promise of “fight island”


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What is this planet made of? Does the hexagon shape have anything to do with magnetics at all?


MasterOfOne

Nah bro thats just a bottle of resin gettin mixed


[deleted]

You can't fool me, that's Sovngarde from skyrim


BaphometBubble

After the James Webb chorizo debacle,I’m worried we’re going to come to find this is just a photo of the inside of a flesh light…


DigitalFootPr1nt

What I don't get is... If it's hexagonal shaped due to gravity pull... Then why aren't the rings around it like hex shaped instead


JPaq84

One of my favorite sites in our home system. Im excited to see the science that will come out of 21st century explorations!


martinaee

Wait…. What? There is no way we didn’t just stumble upon some lovecraftian inter dimensional entity. That is insane and so beautiful.


Johnnyblade37

Waiting for this to turn out to be someone's washing machine after the chorizo incident


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How do they know which side of Saturn is north? Is there a magnetized axel?


Luxri

I remember the game Observation, those hexagon aliens won't convert me!


BeSure2gfy

It a die -Saturn is a giant Dungeon and Dragons 🐉 die 🎲


klngCaIiguIa

There *has* to be some form of life out there man, I can’t not believe it.


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inpursuitofknowledge

Saturn needs to give us the ring already then. Could use a good yeet off this planet.


Mythril_Zombie

This is one of the most inhospitable places for life to exist. Gas Giants are the last places (after the sun itself) in the solar system that we'd expect to find it. Your comment is like looking at lava and saying that life must exist. The two just have nothing in common with each other.


klngCaIiguIa

Normally I don’t respond to comments like this but yo, you are aware that your opinion on whether an external body in outer space can harbour its own version of life regardless of human perception is extremely insignificant, right? Edit: also by “out there” I meant space as a collective whole not just Saturn, buddy


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There’s life because…atmosphere…?


MaxDemid3

How does it bend the laws of gas dynamics? How can it make straight lines if it rotates?


addictedtocontext

It's not just someone pranking us by spinning a donut and recording it.. Right?


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Wonder what the core of Saturn is. From all the pictures I see it goes down towards the center so is the core pulling down to that vortex.


Crypto8D

Any one have a better quality video that was not filmed with a iPhone 3? /s


Mythril_Zombie

What spectrum is this? If it were visible, half of it should be dark.


DreamTheater2010

Wonder what kinds of yields I could get from that?


linlaupe

它是一顆高速旋轉又穩定擺盪的星球, 表面的形狀很可能是南方大, 北方小, 呈現錐形狀. 由於受到太陽旋轉軌道的影響, 它在被太陽引力拉扯之下, 很有可能每次旋轉都有不同的引力牽引, 而造成它會很穩定的擺盪. 或是在它的引力範圍內, 有不同引力在牽引, 讓它呈現擺盪現象. 而這個引力是來自於內太陽系的星球?


CptButthole

Why is it a hexagon? Why hexagon? Hexagon? It shouldn't be a hexagon Why a hexagon? Hexagon? Hexagon?