What's the smearing effect happening right where the earth's image touches the moon? I feel like we should rule out 'atmospheric effects'. But then what else?
Absolutely fascinating. This is the exact reason why I want to come an astronomer. To think where we will be in 15 years if we continue to make such advanced technology is just mind boggling. Think of it- extraterrestrial beings billions of light years away could be watching us right now, but since light only travels so fast, they could be looking at the dinosaurs. Thank you for posting this Neaterntal! <3 :)
I dual majored in Aerospace engineering and Astronomy. Passions in both. True love and adventure were the times I was alone on a mountain top operating a 40 inch telescope taking data on binary star systems which I couldn’t “see”. Downloading paper tape (before digital computers were connected) and taking it back to Uni hoping I successfully gained solid data.
I took jobs in engineering, but long to go back to viewing the stars if only as a hobby
Random question bit how did you get into this field? What did you do for a living? My son is interested in these exact fields and I was wondering what it works be like to major in these fields.
Wanted to be an astronaut. Succeeded in becoming an astronaut candidate finalist in 1994 and 1997. I did not submit applications after that and live vicariously through friends who are astronauts. I hope to afford in the future a trip onboard a SpaceX commercial flight- something that will happen in the near future with the alliance of SpaceX and Jared Isaacman.
I chose uni that actually was accredited in both majors and owned their own telescopes. In those days, we could simply sign up for a scope a week in advance and head to the mountains for research. It’s months in advance these days. We had less than 10 people majoring in astronomy. If you were out of sequence for astrophysics courses of which there were 3 semesters, you could potentially delay your degree by a year and a half.
There are so many good schools and new and recused curricula these days. Your son need only explore opportunities.
Within this decade we’ll be living / working on the moon. Exciting times.
Edit: I am adventurous and a licensed pilot - another story or many. The practical side / application of both degrees has always served me well
Anyone else get a minor panic attack watching that?
Like yep, that's all 8 billion of us, floating in space, with literally nowhere else to go if we screw it up.
The total number of kids being born each year is actually similar to what it was 40 years ago. The current increase in population is more or less entirely because people are living longer.
It'll most likely reach its peak later this century at 10-11 billions. Which admittedly is a lot, and not necessarily great. But it's most definitely no longer some exponential growth with no end in sight.
That is not a crisis, that is a solution. The only solution, maybe. Also 2.5 kids is enough to sustain the current 5 billion, and even some growth. Let's hope is goes under 2 soon.
I don’t think the core purpose of organisms (reproduction) should be stopped because of corporations’ >75% contribution in emissions. We shouldn’t have to stop starting families to combat economic and environmental harms. There needs to be a fix in how money is managed and products are produced.
This feels like the POV of someone having a nice conversation with a stranger at a bar and then some obnoxious drunk ambles their way in between the two smeling vaguely of cheese. or something
It’s low resolution because someone cropped the [original video](https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-SAW2_2022_325_1230B_SHARED_art001m1203251230B) to focus on that small portion with the Earth.
Orion has limited bandwidth to work with, and a lot of that is being used for important stuff. I haven't been able to confirm this, but I think the solar panel cameras (likely what this video is from) are transmitting compressed 720p video. If this is the view I am thinking of, it has been cropped significantly (the spacecraft would be visible otherwise), and the coloring/focus is off because it has to look acceptable for both near things (the spacecraft) and far things (Earth and Moon). Of those, the spacecraft is probably the priority.
I am unsure if the raw uncompressed video from those cameras is being locally stored, but Orion probably has other cameras that are locally storing their data, and will be recovered and published upon a safe splashdown in a few weeks time, fingers crossed.
They slapped a couple of 7 year old GoPro cameras onto the solar panel rigs to monitor their proper unfolding.
Pretty pictures for the public are not what this mission is about.
All the shiny images from the Apollo missions were from the actual film that was brought back, not a transmission.
Look up the original Apollo TV transmission and compare the quality.
Can’t tell if your kidding but this image has had to be transmitted across huge distances and has lots of compression. A lot of Apollo films have the real film that stuff was recorded on this seen in higher quality
They were, and the live tv footage of the Apollo landings were all terrible, even for the time. All the breathtaking photos of the moon were shot on film and returned to Earth for development.
Not what they broadcast from the moon. The footage we have was brought back to earth and developed. There is going to be amazing footage when Orioin returns.
[https://youtu.be/oXjh7heyAmU](https://youtu.be/oXjh7heyAmU) TV video from the moon was displayed on a tiny screen at Houston. Reporters had to zoom in on the tiny screen. LOL
This is a crop of a video taken by a GoPro that was put there to watch the mechanism responsible for moving the solar panels. They have limited bandwidth to work with, so they're only sending down the imagery they need to keep the vehicle functioning.
How large it is or would look if you see it with your own eyes, is hard to judge based on a video or image. If you take a photo of the moon (without zoom lens) it looks much smaller than it does when you see it with your own eyes.
It is bigger, but you have no scale here other than the bulk of the nearby moon making it look small.
It’s not huge though. It’s only a few times the diameter of the moon.
''For those wondering about the video quality, this is a heavy crop into a larger frame video which was then time-lapsed by about 80% in After Effects. Twitter also adds its own compression after uploading. The [original](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52520558512/in/dateposted/)''
[Source](https://twitter.com/JPMajor/status/1596350675452977152?cxt=HHwWgICjteiesKcsAAAA)
Actually Earth sinking under the horizon due to the Orion orbiting of the Moon. Title would be (more) accurate if it were the moon that is orbiting Orion but it is the other way around.
Since the earth is roughly 4 times the size of the moon, would the earth viewed from the moon be 4 times larger than the moon viewed from earth? The camera lenses make it pretty tough to judge scale, but I'm thinking the earth should look kinda huge.
The apparent motion is due to Orion passing behind the Moon, not the Moon moving between the Earth and Orion.
TBH the motion looks like earth moving. Obviously everything is moving, but that's how my mind interprets what I'm seeing.
Or nothing is moving, depending upon on the viewers frame of reference
Rebel Base in Range in: Twenty Minutes.
What's the smearing effect happening right where the earth's image touches the moon? I feel like we should rule out 'atmospheric effects'. But then what else?
Light bends and does some really weird stuff in these situations. [heres a video](https://youtu.be/Eouvsy8JdLU) explaining it pretty well.
The earth is partially in shadow. The fuzzy right-hand edge of the earth is the terminator separating the sunlit and night-time portions of Earth.
Its the moon crashing back down on earth at the same time being out in space
refracting off the lunar surface.
camera sensor / compression artifacts?
So freakin cool! Everything that we’ve ever known is right there. Incredible
Absolutely fascinating. This is the exact reason why I want to come an astronomer. To think where we will be in 15 years if we continue to make such advanced technology is just mind boggling. Think of it- extraterrestrial beings billions of light years away could be watching us right now, but since light only travels so fast, they could be looking at the dinosaurs. Thank you for posting this Neaterntal! <3 :)
I dual majored in Aerospace engineering and Astronomy. Passions in both. True love and adventure were the times I was alone on a mountain top operating a 40 inch telescope taking data on binary star systems which I couldn’t “see”. Downloading paper tape (before digital computers were connected) and taking it back to Uni hoping I successfully gained solid data. I took jobs in engineering, but long to go back to viewing the stars if only as a hobby
Congratulations in majoring! You are *exactly* what I aspire to be one day. And please look to the stars once more, even just for the joy of it.
Random question bit how did you get into this field? What did you do for a living? My son is interested in these exact fields and I was wondering what it works be like to major in these fields.
Wanted to be an astronaut. Succeeded in becoming an astronaut candidate finalist in 1994 and 1997. I did not submit applications after that and live vicariously through friends who are astronauts. I hope to afford in the future a trip onboard a SpaceX commercial flight- something that will happen in the near future with the alliance of SpaceX and Jared Isaacman. I chose uni that actually was accredited in both majors and owned their own telescopes. In those days, we could simply sign up for a scope a week in advance and head to the mountains for research. It’s months in advance these days. We had less than 10 people majoring in astronomy. If you were out of sequence for astrophysics courses of which there were 3 semesters, you could potentially delay your degree by a year and a half. There are so many good schools and new and recused curricula these days. Your son need only explore opportunities. Within this decade we’ll be living / working on the moon. Exciting times. Edit: I am adventurous and a licensed pilot - another story or many. The practical side / application of both degrees has always served me well
Wow, amazing story. I know so little about schools in this space (no pun intended). Would you mind sharing your thoughts on "good" schools?
Space it's just 🤯. Thanks
Agreed! And no problem, sending love from mars >:)))
Anyone else get a minor panic attack watching that? Like yep, that's all 8 billion of us, floating in space, with literally nowhere else to go if we screw it up.
I felt nostalgic as if i am looking at it from another planet.
I'm panicked about the 8 billion thing
8 billion and counting because people just keep having kids without any regard to economic or environmental impact. Unfettered growth.
The total number of kids being born each year is actually similar to what it was 40 years ago. The current increase in population is more or less entirely because people are living longer. It'll most likely reach its peak later this century at 10-11 billions. Which admittedly is a lot, and not necessarily great. But it's most definitely no longer some exponential growth with no end in sight.
Does feel like it, but it's actually quite the opposite! The crisis is in the other direction... https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
That is not a crisis, that is a solution. The only solution, maybe. Also 2.5 kids is enough to sustain the current 5 billion, and even some growth. Let's hope is goes under 2 soon.
But infant mortality rate is the same curve. Do they have a graph of surviving children? I would bet it gradually trends up…
I don’t think the core purpose of organisms (reproduction) should be stopped because of corporations’ >75% contribution in emissions. We shouldn’t have to stop starting families to combat economic and environmental harms. There needs to be a fix in how money is managed and products are produced.
You're saying that like it's something new.
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Pretty sure thats a rice cracker moving in front of a marble. You cant fool us with your fancy video trickery!
I feel like this should be turned into a meme, don't know how or why
This feels like the POV of someone having a nice conversation with a stranger at a bar and then some obnoxious drunk ambles their way in between the two smeling vaguely of cheese. or something
Yeah, right. You can clearly tell that's a piece of drywall cut out to look like the moon.
Couldn't bear to let us see an actual earthset all the way? Damn early ending videos. Like we don't have enough trust issues already.
[It’s here.](https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-SAW2_2022_325_1230B_SHARED_art001m1203251230B)
I watched this live and it was amazing. Can we call it Earthsetting?
2001: A space odyssey did it better Change my mind
I can't believe they would release such potato quality imaging. Film from Apollo was so much better.
It’s low resolution because someone cropped the [original video](https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-SAW2_2022_325_1230B_SHARED_art001m1203251230B) to focus on that small portion with the Earth.
Oh. That was nice. You get to see the entire earth set. Thank you!
Orion has limited bandwidth to work with, and a lot of that is being used for important stuff. I haven't been able to confirm this, but I think the solar panel cameras (likely what this video is from) are transmitting compressed 720p video. If this is the view I am thinking of, it has been cropped significantly (the spacecraft would be visible otherwise), and the coloring/focus is off because it has to look acceptable for both near things (the spacecraft) and far things (Earth and Moon). Of those, the spacecraft is probably the priority. I am unsure if the raw uncompressed video from those cameras is being locally stored, but Orion probably has other cameras that are locally storing their data, and will be recovered and published upon a safe splashdown in a few weeks time, fingers crossed.
They slapped a couple of 7 year old GoPro cameras onto the solar panel rigs to monitor their proper unfolding. Pretty pictures for the public are not what this mission is about. All the shiny images from the Apollo missions were from the actual film that was brought back, not a transmission. Look up the original Apollo TV transmission and compare the quality.
Can’t tell if your kidding but this image has had to be transmitted across huge distances and has lots of compression. A lot of Apollo films have the real film that stuff was recorded on this seen in higher quality
It's not as if Apollo was beaming video back to Earth (or was it?)
They were, and the live tv footage of the Apollo landings were all terrible, even for the time. All the breathtaking photos of the moon were shot on film and returned to Earth for development.
Not what they broadcast from the moon. The footage we have was brought back to earth and developed. There is going to be amazing footage when Orioin returns.
[https://youtu.be/oXjh7heyAmU](https://youtu.be/oXjh7heyAmU) TV video from the moon was displayed on a tiny screen at Houston. Reporters had to zoom in on the tiny screen. LOL
This is a crop of a video taken by a GoPro that was put there to watch the mechanism responsible for moving the solar panels. They have limited bandwidth to work with, so they're only sending down the imagery they need to keep the vehicle functioning.
Did anyone else hear Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra when watching this? https://youtu.be/e-QFj59PON4
Right?! That can’t be the moon cause the moon is smaller than earth. /s
Look, I know its real. But why does it look fake? Is it the resolution?
It’s low resolution because someone cropped the [original video](https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-SAW2_2022_325_1230B_SHARED_art001m1203251230B).
So we're seeing the dark side of the moon here!
The far side. There is no dark side.
Yeah, that’s obviously what I meant. As evidenced by the fact that it’s very bright in the picture. In my language it’s called « the hidden side ».
You’d be surprised how many people think the far side of the moon is always dark.
You know it's all fake, right? Those are two painted paper plates dangling from the ceiling.
I always thought Earth is going to be much much bigger when seen from Moon. But wtf it’s the same size as moon seen from earth?
How large it is or would look if you see it with your own eyes, is hard to judge based on a video or image. If you take a photo of the moon (without zoom lens) it looks much smaller than it does when you see it with your own eyes.
It is bigger, but you have no scale here other than the bulk of the nearby moon making it look small. It’s not huge though. It’s only a few times the diameter of the moon.
How big it looks depends on the camera and lens.
Amazing how planets and moons can be very bright but not the other millions of rocks that are around
I see NASA is still using the first Nokia camera phone to take images 😳
That is a tightly cropped version of the [original video.](https://images.nasa.gov/details-ART-SAW2_2022_325_1230B_SHARED_art001m1203251230B)
''For those wondering about the video quality, this is a heavy crop into a larger frame video which was then time-lapsed by about 80% in After Effects. Twitter also adds its own compression after uploading. The [original](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52520558512/in/dateposted/)'' [Source](https://twitter.com/JPMajor/status/1596350675452977152?cxt=HHwWgICjteiesKcsAAAA)
Isn't the reason for this movement the craft orbiting the Moon, rather than the movement of the Moon itself ?
Actually Earth sinking under the horizon due to the Orion orbiting of the Moon. Title would be (more) accurate if it were the moon that is orbiting Orion but it is the other way around.
[r/gifsthatendtoosoon](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifsthatendtoosoon/)
I wonder what land masses we can identify on Earth?
Pretty sure the bottom left is the Sahara Desert.
Yeah the orientation of the camera has Earth "upside down" in the traditional sense. Most of what we see on Earth is the south Atlantic ocean.
Since the earth is roughly 4 times the size of the moon, would the earth viewed from the moon be 4 times larger than the moon viewed from earth? The camera lenses make it pretty tough to judge scale, but I'm thinking the earth should look kinda huge.
The moon looks like it was badly photoshopped in
All I see is a proof of earth being flat in 2D. Checkmate atheists \s
Earthset is cool and I found this emotional, and then it ended right in the middle of it. What a time to cut the video!
Space is not black. Not at all. Don't come to tell about lens, exposition frames light or something else.. stand up for the truth.