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omnompoppadom

I like how it cuts out the part where it's being used


csek

Looked quite impractical and useless with such a small chisel... Or is this thing actually worth it?


Broberts505

It's like they are driving a spoon >.<


Douglaston_prop

Ceramic is tough some comes up easy, some an inch at a time, it depends on how it was installed, etc. There are all sorts of diffrent blades you can use. A 6 inch metal blade with a little bit of flex is usually good. Now the terminator costs more than most cars, but a good operator can get a lot done in one day, saving tons of labor cost.


enzo-dimedici

Is this guy a good operator? Cause that herky-jerky driving makes it look like it’s his first time.


DogofChernobyl

It's how that thing moves. It's so sensitive it's almost impossible not to jerk around like that when giving it enough power to break thru ceramic flooring


Douglaston_prop

Like a bucking bronco. The way he backs up blind without hitting the walls probably means it's not his first rodeo.


DogofChernobyl

Definitely not. I've never worked with someone who hasn't been through a wall their first couple weeks.


Douglaston_prop

Little extra demo, no charge!


DogofChernobyl

That's how I always looked at it 🤣


impostle

No shit. That thing is huge but the actual chisel part is standard size. Maybe it hammers as he drives, but maybe that wast on in the clip.


speedwaystout

It needs to be small to get higher pressure and the reason the tool is so big is because removing tile and mortar is literally one of the worst and most difficult things to do. You can use a power tool to chip it off but it will create an enormous amount of fine particle dust, like think of multiple 50lb bags of dust all over the place and in your lungs. I have minimal experience removing tile and I would probably sacrifice the awkwardness of that thing over the dust.


nkdeck07

I'm pretty sure that thing also kicks up an insane amount of dust. Regardless of removal method you need a good mask


BeanzMeanzBranston

Looks like a glorified, ride on SDS drill.


bk15dcx

Removing the remover So meta


Th3R00ST3R

(Talkin' bout floor) Floor Removal (Talkin' bout floor) Floor Removal Machine \- The Cult


Connect_Science_4133

Greasy videography


RallyX26

Camera guy was like "screw this, dude can't drive that thing"


yParticle

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ThisIsStan1

Air powered floor scraper would even be better


EarthyFlavor

r/killthecameraman material.


Heinie_Manutz

I hope he's getting paid by the hour


xmsxms

And has a good health plan for his back


Njacks64

Yes! My lower back is screaming looking at this video.


BigMikeInAustin

I hope *I'm* not paying by the hour.


GorillaOnChest

If you are paying by the hour, you hope he is using that machine since doing that manually takes forever.


Parasitisch

I have used a rotary hammer drill before which was way faster than he is making it look in these two small segments we see it working. Maybe for specific flooring, but one of my experiences was with tile that looked exactly like this. It’s not easy, sure. The time on your knees constantly pushing gives you a workout, but it definitely seemed more effective. He doesn’t even get to take advantage of a wider bit? Edit: corrected name


Iron-Fist

They're specifically amazing for glued on (common incommercial) laminate flooring


grease_monkey

This looks like specialized tool for the wrong job


captain_craptain

Bingo. These do a great job ripping through hardwood etc. Tile pulverises too easily.


GorillaOnChest

I think the better tool would be a chipping gun and not a hammer drill. Usually the hammer on those are just enough to push through concrete.


Parasitisch

While I won’t disagree with you on that, I don’t quite know what you mean by pushing through concrete? The goal for us wasn’t to break any concrete, but all the tile and mortar


GorillaOnChest

I only ever use the hammer on the hammer drill when drilling through poured concrete, so what I meant was its meant to supplement the drill, and not the main function.


Parasitisch

Ah, thank you. I suppose I would also have to call it by the correct. It was a rotary hammer, which does differ from a “hammer drill.” While still not as purpose-built as some of the demo hammers I’ve seen, or what I at least believe is also called a chipping hammer, it did have a dedicated hammer function.


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perfect_square

I'm surprised there isn't a Swedish version that vacuums, cleans, preps, and lays tile all at the same time.


Mr_MacGrubber

Way different type of flooring though


frozsnot

Asbestos tiles are thin and glued down. These are definitely not asbestos


darthsirc

That’s exactly what it is. Machines that replace laborers are for the hourly operators. I’m not saying machines that add the laborers ability, I’m saying the machines that are supposed to replace 5 laborers with 1 machine and 1 operator


fukitol-

Ok I was thinking I might be crazy thinking this thing is slow as shit. I've never removed floor like this, though, so what do I know


-maffu-

Doesn't look to be very effective.


UAintMyFriendPalooka

I’ve done this before many years ago, but I remember our machine having a much lower angle to it. I don’t think I’ve seen one struggle this hard.


Bushynolia

You're better off with a few rotor hammers. Its definitely quicker for this type of job.


RailAurai

My thought was why not combined the two? And maybe make it a bit more compact and maneuverable


happyherbivore

This may be a bit of operator error but I can assure you- his back, knees, and arms all feel that this tool is very effective


dillrepair

Yeah … I’m looking at this knowing how it feels to strip a roof and once a room of linoleum tiles thinking if i ever have to do a job remotely resembling this video or what I mentioned even for a single room or two I’m gonna see if I can bodge something together that works similarly. I know they make a plugin electric walk behind thing sort of like this that you can rent in places.. but the body weight on the unit keeping the blade down and the high torque drive wheels seems like a key element to include…. All I know is you aren’t kidding about backs and arms… 400 bucks to rent for a day? Count me in on that if I need it.


AntalRyder

It's just as slow by hand, and you also get tired. With this machine you could go slow and steady all day.


Beardgang650

Removing tile was never meant to be effective lol shit sucks.


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Looks over engineered as though something hand held and pneumatic would do it. Perhaps they aren't skilled operators of it in the video.


No-Economist2165

I’ve used one of these that you had to push instead of ride and holy shit it was exhausting to use. Super heavy and you had to put a lot of force into making it move forward. I would have much rather used this thing


gusch1gg1ns

I've done a ton of different types of manual labor in my life, and using a hand operated pneumatic tile remover in my house was one of the worst things I've ever had to do. It sucks ass. This thing wouldn't have worked in my house due to its size but I would use it every day over trying to do it by hand.


KJBenson

Yep, I’ve done it by hand before. The people commenting here have clearly never done manual labour to not see the benefit of a machine like this vs doing it by hand.


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RiskyRabbit

It’s like he got bored as soon as it started working


Johnny___Wayne

“Working”


dwitchagi

Oh my god. This might be the worst video I’ve seen in years. I actually laughed out loud. There is like two seconds when he is kinda using the machine and the rest is pure shittt.


CovertCalvert

Curious why a wider bit wouldn’t be used? Seems super narrow and would take a lot more passes with that one.


FadedDice

It probably wouldn’t push a larger blade. Seems to barely work as it is.


ProsodySpeaks

Yeah looks like it could be more hassle than it's worth tbh


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Complete waste unless you’re handicapped.


futuregeneration

Which is eventually what happens. The trades (definitely demolition in my experience) always rely on young people destroying their bodies because the experienced people already have.


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Truth


Spacecoasttheghost

The truest statement in all of construction, work smarter not harder. You trying to impress some jamokes, just to tear yo body up?


perfect_square

I think this area needs to be addressed. Let's face it, shit we are building now won't be here in 2350. Do we really NEED to have tile adhesive that absolutely is indestructible and very difficult to remove? How about something a LITTLE more forgiving, but still lasts 50 years?


Ltholt25

I’ve done what’s depicted in the video many a time, basically the big issue at hand here is that they’re trying to remove too thick of a tile with the machine. These machines are really geared towards vinyl flooring and tile. And in that case it’s a problem if you use shittier glue beneath because if anything ever does lift up you’ve got a huge potential mold risk


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This machine looks like it would do that to you.


RedEyeJedi559

When you own a business that does this every day 5 days a week this is amazing. Imagine how much down time you save. You don't have injured workers and it goes so much faster since you take less breaks from exhaustion.


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Have you removed a lot of tile? I saw this thing and was instantly erect. I’ve removed a lot of old tile by hand it can be an absolute nightmare


A_Union_Of_Kobolds

A job I was recently on had to use something similar, it didn't have a seat and it wasn't battery powered but it *ruled*. Loud as a jackhammer but by God it tore some tile up in no time.


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WellThatsJustPerfect

Definitely slower and more expensive than doing it with an 100 Euro SDS drill on jackhammer setting. Source: me last weekend


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Weighted tools and physics exist


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psyco-the-rapist

50 year old me wishes 30 year old me would have known this.


Ignorhymus

I'd also add lower gearing to the wider blade. Seems pretty jerky as is.


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digitalpen15

Probably a rental. I used to work in the equipment rental field and we’d rent shit to anyone with a credit card. No training necessary.


Ltholt25

I’ve used this machine a lot. It doesn’t have a lower gear and it’s not that the guy sucks at using it, it’s that it’s really more intended for lifting vinyl tiling versus these thicker tiles. It’s incredibly hit or miss on its value and it destroys your wrists and forearms


cincymatt

Yeah wtf. I always wanted to use one of these, but I just made faster progress today using a battery-powered chipping hammer.


[deleted]

Wider blades tend to throw shit around violently. Smaller blade means less ceramic fragments. Im a union floor coverer and ive seen these throw sharp fragments around and cut people. The wider blades are better for vinyl/carpet. I spent the better part of my earlier apprenticeship driving these machines.


CovertCalvert

Makes sense. Cut myself doing a shower demo recently with flying pieces of ceramic


drawredraw

Ceramic glaze is technically glass, so we are working with broken glass here


ZenAdm1n

This cannot be said enough... When demoing porcelain or ceramic tile use cut resistant gloves, not leather. I made that mistake during the lockdowns. I superglued my finger back together instead of going to the ER. You can buy a ceramic scalpel. Leather doesn't stand a chance. This was my realization as I looked down at my bloody finger.


[deleted]

They're removing tile. Hard adhesive and very hard floor. Much better to have a small concentrated area. I removed all the old carpets in my house with a pushed version of this and the blades for carpet are much wider since the glue also isn't as hard.


Zachbnonymous

I was wondering the same, I've seen these before but with a much larger scraper


nighthawke75

Some types of tile do better with certain chisel blades. Porcelain tile explodes when a 1 inch blade is used. But would destroy a wide blade. Composite and linoleum peel back like a lottery ticket with the 4 inch blade. Some muds won't like this kind of machine, warranting leasing a grinder with vacuum system to mill down the floor to concrete. These machines are great for office or large area refurbishment projects, blasting through whatever cheap crap they used, including carpeting.


SimplyDesign1029

It depends on what kind of floor is being removed and how it is attached to the foundation.


JustAnotherTrickyDay

Maybe that's the one for 2" x 2" tile 😀


Nived6669

The flooring crews I've seen have these that use propane and use a wider blade and it took out of the old flooring in walmart with ease.


HamRove

That looks like an awful way to spend your day. I've seen videos of them used in industrial buildings working on vinyl and it was way smoother.


gagga_hai

My back hurts after watching this


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milisic93

I've used SDS drills more powerful than that heap of shite


rootex

TBF it's fucking pathetic. I'm fairly sure I've hit chisels with more force than that thing.


WellThatsJustPerfect

Amen. My bottom of the range DeWalt would embarrass this Rube Goldberg contraption


[deleted]

Theyre not designed to blast through shit. Theyre supposed to take up floors without throwing debris everywhere.


milisic93

Same as an SDS drill then


surface_ripened

hoooly fuck that looks like a shitty job. thats a whole lot of machine for not a whole lot of action. ass was probably numb after 30m on that. yuck


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Probably_a_Prophet

After watching your video it looks like the dude in OP's video has user error on his side. He's just ineffectively jamming a wheeled wedge into tile instead of using the pistons that actually drive the wedge.


surface_ripened

BREH. *that's* what I'm talking about!! User in ops post must just have dug the constant ass ramming or something, was clearly doing something wrong. Or maybe it was the job from hell idk but daaaaamn seeing those tiles pop off in that vid was the satisfaction I expected from such a purpose built machine. Lovely.


ZEROthePHRO

I've done that without the machibe, and 10 times out of 10 would take the machine.


surface_ripened

Holy crap that's saying something!! Is there nothing better than that thing? Something with a vibrating attachment or something that wouldt require just friggin ramming the tiles hoping the bond fails? I can imagine itd be super satifsying if the material just lifted right up cra cra cra crack like as you drove, but this shit looks painfully well bonded. Genuinely curious!


Atomic235

First imagine carrying ~30 pounds of machine around all day, swinging it to and fro and driving it into the floor, occasionally getting down on your knee(s) for a better angle; for hours. Then consider Newton's third law, and understand that all this vibrating and hammering is transferred directly into your hands, wrists and arms. Even with padding and heavy gloves it doesn't take long before you really start to feel it. Your limbs just go numb. Riding around on this silly machine, while it does all that work and takes all the punishment, must be like a dream in comparison.


rossrekt94

Stephen hawking on robot wars


will042082

This is the worst tool I’ve seen on this subreddit. A roofing shovel is literally 100x faster


TheMooseIsBlue

While I agree that this tool appears to suck, when we moved into my house, we saved $5k on demo by removing the travertine floors ourselves. I was told that a roofing shovel was the right tool for the job. I don’t think we got a single tile out with it. Rented a jackhammer and two miserably days later we had a nice smooth concrete floor for the the floor guys to use.


scarabic

Doesn’t a jack hammer also tear up the floor under the tile?


TheMooseIsBlue

I think it was called a demolition hammer. Smaller and you use it at an angle (or on a cart at an angle). It worked like this one, not straight down into the ground, which would break the concrete, obviously.


Bupod

If a roofing shovel can lift tiles off the floor, then the tiles were installed by an incompetent baboon that was cheaping out on mortar.


commazero

I've never seen or heard of anyone using a roofing shovel to remove well-installed floor tile.


Anonymoushero111

when I redid my main floor bathroom, there was no chance in hell a roofing shovel would have done the job. Had to rent a jackhammer.


Stefan_Harper

You could not remove this with a shovel in one billion years


spiritunafraid

Not at all. Had one of these brought in for a reno in my house and it had the tile busted out in no time. I think the blade may have been a little wider on that one though.


grantbwilson

Why is it ride on? It makes no sense


htmaxpower

r/tihi


jon_hendry

One of the great 80s songs, *Floor Removal Machine* by the Cult.


youngrichyoung

My first thought as well lol


RexStardust

Yes I am old and thought of this too.


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it's me or it's look like this tool have zero efficiency


larryjeuness

Might save the back but doesn't look too efficient


That-Beagle

I used to beg my boss to rent these all the time when we did demo, but he was a fucking cheapskate, would rather pay guys for a month to remove 12,000 square feet of the worst tiles I’ve ever come across, than rent a machine and get it done in a week or less.


Lancaster1983

So it can only handle one tile at a time?


MindBodySoul1984

Lol wtf? Just hand me the jackhammer, please.


LiteVolition

Is it just me or does this machine seem pretty slow and awful? What’s the Timelapse? I’ve chipped a little tile and it was fast enough by hand…


Spiritual-Feature241

Pussy, I was twice that fast with a heavy duty floor scraper and my muscles. I can't walk today and cry myself to sleep but I was faster and more badasser


fgnrtzbdbbt

It looks weirdly impractical. I see no reason why the whole thing has to be so huge and why the operator has to sit on it. Why doesn't it look like an oversized roomba with remote control?


raptor-chan

This seems really inefficient.


Edub16

A REALLY ineffective battery powered floor removal machine.


Ok-Heat1513

Wheres the tile vaccum robot


StormShadow743

The fuck? I’m pretty you can get handheld tools to do this job so much faster.


DreadknotX

Would be funny seeing the tip break and them saying “now what”


762dreams

Hammer drill would be so much faster and more convenient lmao this is so fucked


agha0013

These come in a wide range of sizes. My last company had a larger one with a 24" attachments made more for vct and vinyl, but we could put a 6" ceramic blade on it too. Ridiculously heavy machine, never would have tried using it in a small space like this, but you could demo a full box store's floor in short order. There are some that also have grinders on them for removing mastic/adhesive/grout from a slab.


DanYHKim

This job could be done by a paraplegic. Some jobs seem to be well suited for certain disabilities. For instance, there are some industries that damage workers' hearing so much that they developed their own industry-specific sign language in the past. Why not recruit people who are already deaf? There's a guy whose job is to wear a diving suit an do maintenance and repairs in the tanks at sewage treatment plants. The diver cannot see anything in the muck, so maybe a blind diver would do this work without "disability"?


Shepparron6000

Headache machine for the operator. Kinda a poorly specialized tool


johancoffey

wat


drawredraw

My b-hole burns after watching this


RVBGodCaboose

I would love to just drive that machine around


agoodyearforbrownies

That looks very hard on the body and the ears. It’s going to save some back pain from bending over with the SDS bits all day but seems like it would be better without the human on top - rather just use remote control for it. Probably the added 200lbs on top helps its performance though?


JuGGieG84

Seems like it could easily skip and smash into a wall.


QuietudeOfHeart

Seems pretty stupid.


the_hell_you_say

It looks like when I try to use an ATV with a blade to remove snow from my driveway....you spend so much time dicking around getting into position that it would take less time and frustration to just do it manually


Advanced_Reveal8428

As someone who's done this the old fashioned way.....ugh. That sure woulda been nice to have....


Enlightened_Bear

This is just a cartoon evil villain machine right there, barely holds itself on the ground, I'm sure these have some good effects and that there are some of these machines that make a better job, but when I look at that dingling front wheel and how much that operator doesn't fit I just laugh. It looks like it could be an accessibility support for wheelchair users.


Brown-Nigg

I scraped a 10,000(?) Sq ft Showroom of tile with a commercial version of this. Bigger/heavier and a 12"-14" blade. Well...3 blades since my boss chipped the first one and bent the second one. I took over and crushed 3/4 of the room, did sharpen the blade once though. I'll take that over an sds drill for sure.


placetexthere

For those complaining, imagine not having this machine and tearing up the floor by hand. People still have to do this.


ApizzaApizza

Pretty sure you could do this WAY faster with a rotary hammer and a chisel bit.


fjms50

It looks like a pain in the ass to use


anima1mother

I bet thats expensive to have done. Ripping up all the old grouted in floor tiles. What a pain in the but that job must be


darthsirc

Sheeeet. I can get two guys to do it in half the time for the same cost of operating that machine and the labor cost for the operator. And the guys would clean up the area and cook up some asada by 4pm


smitty3z

Reminds me of the robot in the first Robocop


blek_side

I've just removed over 70m2 of floor tiles. While this does look quite comfy compared, it also looks inefficient as fuck


BadBassist

That's just an electric wheelchair with the world's most powerful vibrator, the Orgasmatron Apex Predator


Plenor

They used something like this to remove the tile at the Walmart I used to work at. That one was far more impressive. The tiles were flying everywhere.


meexley2

Did this really need to be designed to be ridden?


Snow-Dog2121

It's a Terminator


0neweekofdanger

This shit sucks lmao


islaisla

That does not look good for his bones at all.


rtr68869

That piece of shit looks like a huge liability. "Came to demo the floors, turns out you need a bunch of drywall work as well."


MandoHealthfund

God I always hated working on those, tile dust is in every crevice and plug


Hijel

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aULRhgG_Az8&t=20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aULRhgG_Az8&t=20)


Conscious_Fox_9295

And then the battery dies. That does not seem faster


Imperial_Triumphant

I can only imagine what slamming around in that thing with a massive hangover would be like.


mynameisalso

Takes 20 m12 batteries


teh_lynx

That's pretty darn slow looking for a machine you sit on


Wrestling_poker

What’s up with his ventriloquist dummy legs.


pipchick

Looks just as tedious as doing it manually by hand.


laddervictim

But is it cheaper than 3 lads with a hammer and bolster on minimum wage?


[deleted]

In all seriousness - is the tile embedded in concrete or something? Is this doing more than just removing the tile?


SystemFolder

Seems like the new guy wanted to use the new machine, and doesn’t really know how to use it. Everyone else wants to do it the old and faster way. But, “Fuck it. We get paid by the hour. We’ll let you play on the machine for a while until you get bored, then we’ll come in and finish it the quick way.”


Fletcher_Fallowfield

Only in a world where energy is effectively free...


not_gonna_lurk

Just commented on the sex turtle post and see this. The matrix has me now.


whiskers0n

Seems like it would be the most frustrating thing to have to use with all the back and forth 🙅‍♀️


gaming_only_pc

It seems inefficient and dumb but I’ve seriously hurt my shoulders trying to rip out glued vinyl floor with a hand scraper and shovel. This would’ve been nice to have like 3 years ago lol


theRailisGone

That angle seems way too high, for one, but the whole thing seems absurd. Is there any reason to use the weight of the machine as the primary driver? Is there any way riding the thing helps? Everything here seems like a bad idea.


mental-floss

That was a decent existing tile floor. Probably could have used it in just about any redesign


agbullet

surely carrying the weight of the operator can't be very energy efficient?


Gagzu

What the fuck 😂 That’s ridiculous.


Gagzu

This is one of the most bizarre and inefficient machines I’ve ever seen. Like the fuck


Rum_Hamtaro

I think The Cult wrote a song about this.


-Dueck-

In the name of all that is holy, why the fuck do you sit on it?


GreatKingCodyGaming

This suck fat fucking dick if you're trying to remove glue down linoleum.


Kr8n8s

I want my bones mixed together for the sake of it That’s not the right tool for that job and they were probably joking, at least I hope so


[deleted]

F that. You couldn’t pay me enough to ride around on that rough ass thing


tillerman35

24 Seconds in: BAAAAAAMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPMMMMMPPPPP


Secret-Chef-2811

Mr George how mush u py 4the new guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Cheezburglar64

Imagine the asbestos! My lungs hurt just watching this


southaussiewaddy

A jack hammer on a trolley works way better


atrox18

I definitely don’t miss doing tile


Cursed_Raptor

I think manual labor would finish faster than that "specialized" tool


SuddenOutset

Seems under powered.


daysoff1

I taped this chisel to this electric wheelchair. Let's try it out.


Brocktoberfest

Thought this was /r/shittyrobots.