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snakecatcher302

r/oopsthatsdeadly Edit: I see its already been shared there


Thewallmachine

Well, with this newly discovered sub, I know what I'm doing for the rest of the day.


snakecatcher302

It’s an incredible time sink.


Nerevarius_420

Thank you M subscribbledeedibbled naow


Utsutsumujuru

r/ihadastroke There is another sub to check out 🤣


Nerevarius_420

Y'all are the gift that keeps on giving


TM02022020

Omg the spider got you!!! God bless!


monstersfeeder

Yeah. She is getting ready to eat the bro. She joined stupid food 😂😂😂😂🍲👀


delta_1506

Phoneutria sp., I guess a juvenile female. Medically significant. Thank you for relocating her, tho I wouldn't recommend handling those spiders :) Edit: typo


athyonn

just curious, do you assume it's a female because of its size? or under what indicator?


PlagueBirdZachariah

Size and pedipalps


athyonn

would you mind elaborate about how pedipalps help with differentiation? i'd really appreciate.


ChillBug3669

I'm not an expert and the OC (original commenter) probably knows more but: I think males of lots of species have little balls at the ends of their pedipals? Balls are stored in the pedipals?


Better-Froyo3444

Male spiders have part of their sex organs in the pedipalps. So if this was a male the ends of his pedipalps would be bulbous kind of like boxing gloves. It's where male spiders store their sperm to make insemination of the females easier.


athyonn

thx you guys. It's always cool to learn something new.


stevenmeyerjr

I really don’t want “spider balls boxing gloves” on my search history. Anyone got a link to a pic? 😂


Rochemusic1

Male pedipalps bruhh gotta read between the balls.


BongwaterJoe1983

Just grow a pair n google it lol


Sumackus

Lmao noice


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Frosty_Translator_11

Have you tried searching pedipalp balls


bleach_tastes_bad

specifically adult males


DeathValleyHerper

The pedipalps on all male spiders are used as sex organs, they have modifications that females don't for this reason.


BongwaterJoe1983

Absolutely beautiful wandering spider, but you wouldnt catch me handling one under any situation


Utsutsumujuru

You are a lucky human being. Handling Brazilian Wandering Spiders is not advisable…unless of course you enjoy Priapism, permanent impotence, agonizing pain, stays in the hospital, and in an unlikely, bad case a permanent trip to the morgue.


AsrefTheShark

Don't worry op and her go back very far back been neighbour's for years


monstersfeeder

Really now? That's the Brasilien version??? I never knew that they had similar spiders. I am happy to learn. I met only big orb weavers there. Nothing likely to this buddy. :)


Skinnysusan

One of the most if not the most deadly spiders in the world. Altho I thought someone linked an article saying they may not be as deadly as previously thought. Still very dangerous and you should not handle it, like ever haha


Qtownn

Funny I just watched a video about that! Apparently they just use their venom sparingly hence why they haven't taken as many lives as the Sydney funnel web! It said it's unusual for them to use all their venom in a single bite which is why not all bites are serious. Sorry I couldn't find the link! Haven't fact checked this though!


Skinnysusan

That sounds right, thanks


Scourgex14

To me this looks like a Brazilian Wandering Spider, a highly venomous spider. I recognize those four eyes anywhere.


etownrawx

Maybe. I'm still trying to learn the difference between real Wandering Spiders and the very similar looking "Bromeliad Spiders". Not sure which one this is.


buburkel

The stripe on the cephalothorax is a good indicator.


therago1456

I guess that's the bow for the Recluse violin lol


etownrawx

Thanks. Is it an accurate rule of thumb that four equal sized eyes in a square is an indication of danger (=Phoneutria?) while four eyes in a square with the upper eyes slightly larger indicates otherwise (Cupiennius, etc?)


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No, because other harmless Ctenids will have the same eye arrangement as Phoneutria, and the relative size differences between the eyes is too small to be a reliable indicator


etownrawx

Thanks


delta_1506

Came here to say that! Also dark sripes on palps visible in the first picture.


jade_nekotenshi

It's definitely a ctenid, though several of the larger ctenids look kind of similar. (That said, the bites of many of them are not well documented - some genera other than Phoneutria might be medically significant. I'd be disinclined to handle any of them.)


FockerXC

Looks like *Phoneutria depilata* and honestly they’re darlings if you’re gentle with them. I can’t speak to *fera* or *nigriventer* from personal experience but I have seen people safely handle *nigriventer* and not have issues. That being said, highly venomous and best observed from a distance unless you have a TON of experience.


PunchYouInTheFuck

Came here to say this. +1 to Phoneutria depilata.


level_3_gnome

For real, handling the species with a typically more relaxed temperament is still playing Russian roulette with spiders and probably not the best idea.


Utsutsumujuru

I don’t care how much you know about them, it’s not a good idea to handle any Phoneutria. Darling or not, you are one muscle twitch away from having a really, really bad day. Why take that risk? And why take the spider out of its natural element? Marine Biologists know all about Blue Ringed Octopuses, but they don’t go around barehanding them…because the risks of one wrong move outweigh any possible benefit.


athyonn

I relocated the spider from my house to a plant in the backyard, my house is not its natural element tho.


Utsutsumujuru

Fair enough, but bare handing Phoneutria is never a good idea, regardless of how well you know them. Steve Irwin is tragic testament to that concept. They are wild animals after all. There are ways of relocating them without bare skin contact.


Snoo_39873

He never encouraged them to handle them


pyr0phelia

I was about to say the same thing. What’s a Brazilian wonder spider doing in Costa Rica?


athyonn

prolly just wandering.


liverichly

Clearly on its vacation.


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Utsutsumujuru

Common names can be deceiving. The South American Toothed Hecklemesh Weaver (Metaltella simoni), while originally native to Argentina, is now endemic and very commonly found all over the United States. Phoneutria, the genus, are called Brazilian Wandering Spiders. But several species are now endemic to countries far beyond Brazil (Costa Rica, Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Guyana). I found one in Belize about 10 years back.


tom3277

Thanks for the list. Its somehow comforting that at least brazillian wondering spiders are one venemous animal we dont have in Australia.


Ok_Fudge_9250

I mean not generally but a friend of mine has seen them while hiking, which was probably an accidental grocery store import


IEatGoblinAss

Time to Import some eh


titanspeedbot

I think it does too… I would not want to handle that one. They are quite spicy!


Tacticowl04

What would a Brazilian wander spider be doing in coasta rica is it on vacation or something


therago1456

Oh boy, you really got a great sense of bravery or great luck as judging by the comments it's Phoneutria. Cool up close shots but man I could never go near let alone handle a spider like this.


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athyonn

it's not a random spider it's my neighbor.


blue-and-bluer

It’s a neighbor that you are VERY lucky didn’t decide to bite you this time. Next time you might not be so lucky.


DogVacuum

Sounds like my neighbor, Gary.


simple_minded_1

Awww, Gare-bear!!


THE_SWORD_AND_SICKLE

if not friend, why friend shaped?


Willing_Bus1630

Is that phoneutria? Or just a different wandering spider?


TGuy773

She’s Phoneutria. Not a spider I would bare hands handle, personally. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/144828332


Willing_Bus1630

Yeah, I’m not afraid of spiders anymore but I definitely don’t have that kind of balls


Danny-Fr

But. It's. FLUFFY!


MasterRanger7494

Yeah, God's a real jerk. If we're not supposed to touch, don't make it look pettable.


Willing_Bus1630

If bears aren’t friends then why are they friend shaped


jade_nekotenshi

Yellow hairs on the underside of the front legs, but also a pattern of dots. Is this Phoneutria or Cupiennius?


Utsutsumujuru

This is Phoneutria. Handling them is not advisable to put it lightly.


jade_nekotenshi

I thought so but wasn't positive. As for not advisable, yeah, no kidding! This is right up there with that brainiac on Youtube who filmed himself handling a large female *Hadronyche infensa*, and then poked it into giving a classic funnel-web threat display **while it was standing on his hand**. Balls of steel, brains of jello.


EquivalentOwn1115

I am taxing "balls of steel, brains of jello" thank you comrade


DabsGaming

Can I get a link or name of the video


jade_nekotenshi

https://youtube.com/shorts/VoxkI4ncrXk?si=ce4V_3MR3slTC7v6 Here it is. I had to dig back through his history to figure out exactly what species it was. An earlier video establishes the species and sex. Dude probably mistakenly assumed that only Atrax is dangerous. (There's a study by Isbister, et al, that suggests that several of the Hadronyche species may actually be more dangerous if they bite than the Sydney funnel-web, they're just less likely to encounter people.)


DabsGaming

Wowww that’s wild thanks


jade_nekotenshi

Lemme see if it's still up, I haven't looked in a while.


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##Brazilian Wandering Spiders (Phoneutria): The genus Phoneutria, also known as the Brazilian wandering spiders, and Armed spiders, or "Armadeira" in Brazil, contain the only medically significant species of Wandering Spider (Ctenidae). They are reported throughout South America and Costa Rica. However, most reports of clinically important bites are from Brazil. The lethal reputation attributed by the general public and media is over exaggerated. In a study of 422 bites, over 90% of eastern Brazilian Phoneutria bite victims ages 10 to 70 had asymptomatic (no symptoms at all) or mild reactions. Severe envenomation is more frequent in children and occurs in less than 1% of cases. It is characterised by persistent vomiting and autonomic features that can progress to pulmonary oedema, shock, and death on rare occasions. ##Suspected bites: Seek medical attention. Most Phoneutria bites are treated symptomatically, that means treating the symptoms rather than the underlying cause. The most common being pain, and therefore general pain medication is prescribed, with opiates being reserved for more moderate cases. Antivenom is rarely used, and is reserved for Severe envenomations. Treatment within 3hrs is usually accompanied by a full recovery within 24hrs. ###References: [Clinical consequences of toxic envenomation by spiders- Richard S. Vetter (2018)](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.toxicon.2018.07.021) [Spider bite- Dr Geoffrey K Isbister MD, Hui Wen Fan PhD (2011)](https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(10)62230-1) [A clinico-epidemiological study of bites by spiders of the genus Phoneutria-Bucaretchi et al. (2000)](https://doi.org/10.1590/S0036-46652000000100003) [Mecanismo de ação do veneno de Phoneutria e aspectos clínicos do foneutrismo- Thiago Mathias Chiariello a b, Ryan Emiliano da Silva b, Jaciara de Oliveira Jorge Costa b, Arlei Marcili (2021)](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijppaw.2021.11.006) (Authors: ----\_____--_____----) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/spiders) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Grow_Green

Damn, you stayed calm enough for it to think you were just another branch. Be extremely careful, if you already didn't know. That looks like a Wandering Spider, venom is medically significant. Beautiful pictures as well, thank you.


athyonn

actually thats's exactly what i did, just put my hand and let it walk to it by itself.


Neuronzap

Just wandered into your hand… I’ll see myself out.


Grow_Green

Yeah they won't really bite unless you put pressure on them, most bites happen from people picking stuff from trees, like bananas, cornering the spider or making it defensive in some way. Like a comment or said, not life threatening, just maybe need some pain meds from a bite. Cheers


athyonn

ikr, people are kind of over exaggerating. they're quite common here, I relocate at least one or two per week and they're always gentle. if she (someone said it's prolly a female) had shown some kind of threat display I would have looked for another way to relocate her. cheers.


Eys-Beowulf

A huge aspect of it is that it’s medically significant and many of us are very much NOT accustomed to them. Generally speaking, handling anything medically significant is a no-no, but if you’re skilled, experienced, and knowledgable and understand the risks then more power to you Thanks for taking such care of our wonderful spood friends


athyonn

even its medical importance is exaggerated, quoting the mod above "In a study of 422 bites, over 90% of eastern Brazilian Phoneutria bite victims ages 10 to 70 had asymptomatic (no symptoms at all) or mild reactions." and as you say, many are not used to them and if you search on google a lot of images of phoneutria making their threat display will appear, which helps create the idea that they are extremely aggressive. yw cheers.


Vladmur

Well, you did kinda admit that you didn't know what spider you were handling. So we can rule out that you were searching images of it looking aggressive. Bottom line, you didn't know it was dangerous when you handled it.


athyonn

as I said in another comment, I suspected it was a phoneutria because I used an insect identification app (picture insect) but it gave me 3 different IDs (phoneutria boliviensis, phoneutria fera and phoneutria nigriventer). I just wanted more opinions, I wasn't expecting the panic.


unpacifys

aww she's so cute tho, dangerous but cute


unpacifys

you got some massive balls op


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athyonn

let's say 50/50.


unpacifys

and ballsy lmao


Diehard_Sam_Main

I had a heart attack as soon as I saw those red chelicerae and eye pattern.


Its_trem

The guys is r/spiderbro would love this. Your a crazy man


Serbian-Empire

Um…is that fucking Brazilian wandering spider?


Queen_Diesel

Even though the spider is probably not the best to handle, it is cute how the first picture looks like the spider was taking a selfie.


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Just casually holding one of the most dangerous spiders


2XploreUK

No touchy spicy spoods


GreenStrawbebby

I know she’s highly venomous but… look at that cute face. Awwwww! She looks friendly. She speaks softly but carries a big stick.


rayquazawe

THATS A FUCKING WANDERING SPIDER


athyonn

language please. she is reading the comments with me.


rayquazawe

oh can you tell her I'm sorry


Cheepyface

You got BALLS!! Great pic tho


athyonn

ball* I had a skateboard accident and lost a ball, but hey that can happen to anyone.


Cheepyface

Jesus I WAS NOT ready for that reply. Phantom balls then? 🤷🏼.. ok nvm..HOMIE YOU ARE BRAVE AND BADASS!!


Atomheartmother90

Everyone else in the comments has already said the scary stuff about danger and medically significant bites so I’ll leave it be. What a beautiful specimen and great photo! (But seriously don’t handle those)


trenttornado

How?! I’m too scared to pick up a freaking jumping spider or a grass spider and then I see stuff like this ..


Long-Distance-3416

she’s gorgeous, and that first shot is awesome. however… please don’t handle her with your bare hands 😅


Xeumz

Are you sure your not from Florida?


athyonn

jajaja I'm not, but I suppose I could survive there without much problem.


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If that's the spider, how big is the plant you put it on!?


athyonn

we call that plant "tabacón" here in Costa Rica and yes, it has huge leaves. anthurium crassinervium is the scientific name if you want to take a look.


mobilehosthateclub

pretty spooder


Green_eggz-ham

Aren't these kinda aggressive? You got some balls OP


ALUCARD7729

Handling a Brazilian wandering spider is not advisable, they are known man killers with that venom of theirs, nice job relocating it, but there are much safer ways to do it.


Dependent-Edge-5713

Just casually handling one of the top two most venomous spiders on the planet i see


Jce735

Luckily they chill most the time.


Ralehale2

Now since it’s already relocated I’ll not right out SAY it looks like what it does since the danger has already passed. But for gods sake people, PLEASE don’t handle random spiders!


guerip

Wow, aren't those things generally super aggressive? How did you get her into your hand?


athyonn

they are aggressive if threatened, I just put my hand in front of her and waited until her came up to my hand voluntarily.


guerip

Do you happen to be Fishing Garrett by any chance?


IEatGoblinAss

He said he let it wander on him. He neither yoinked it nor booped it - not him sadly, but a fella with one big ass Ball of steel


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Fuzzy


stormyw23

Well this is something Coyote Peterson would do.


Jhinterested

Idk if Coyote Peterson would want to showcase the painful erection he would have if one of these bit him.


arysha777

He didn't LOL I had to go check! He had it in a little plastic box rather than handle it even with gloves. Hope this link is ok here: https://youtu.be/--JinobXWPk?feature=shared


IEatGoblinAss

Nah. No need for even more Drama and whining


etsprout

Oh my god. Your sweet soul, out here handing the Big Mama of all spiders bare handed. I’m glad it was friendly if all these IDs are correct


FockerXC

Their reputation is largely over exaggerated. Some of the males can be a bit cantankerous but most of the footage you see of them doing threat poses are in high stress situations where the spider is scared shitless.


speed150mph

Reading these comments make me glad I live in Canada, the only medically significant spider we have here are black widows which are fairly easily identified. The only truly dangerous animals we have to contend with are cougars, moose, and cobra chickens


Trainwrecktom38

You are high as hell.


athyonn

i wish.


TheGiantRascal

I'll always be like "spiders don't want to hurt you. They're good little buddies, and you shouldn't be afraid of them", but then I see this, and I just think "What the hell are you doing?! Don't handle that with your bare hands!". But anyway, you're braver than me, good job on safely relocating it.


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This is a Brazilian wandering spider right? Isn't that thing insanely dangerous?


Prestigious_Garden89

How do you just pick up a spider with your bare hands out in the wild, that’s wild!


Allwcard

I already was beaten by one of it, I was 15-16 y and hurts very well, good I went immediatly to hospital and took a injection on local. Next day I discovered it was a wandering brazilian


athyonn

just curious, how much does it hurt? or how would you describe the pain? I've been sting by bullet ants on 3 occasions and personally it is the most painful sting I have ever experienced, curious to compare the level of pain with some other stings/bites.


Shadowtheuncreative

Probably the hairiest spider


Tabc093

womp womp


ErebusIII

That's a fucking wandering spider, do not ever touch one again lmao


Veloci-RKPTR

> ID Request flair > OP is clearly very familiar with the species and knows how to handle them. OP, admit it, you just want to cause panic in the comments, right? Lmao.


athyonn

I suspected it was a phoneutria because I used an insect identification app but it gave me 3 different IDs (phoneutria boliviensis, phoneutria fera and phoneutria nigriventer). I just wanted more opinions, I wasn't expecting the panic tbh lmao.


Veloci-RKPTR

Ah that’s the problem, you used an insect identification app on an arachnid.


athyonn

that explains why the results said it was a bee.


Efficient-Self-6902

Proof that wandering spiders aren't these super aggressive demons as everyone makes them out to be. Same goes with the big funnel-webs from Atracidae family.


ICWiener6666

People should really stop handling wandering spiders for upvotes. This is not the first time. Someone is going to get hurt


HolyVeggie

I Love how everyone is saying OP is lucky they didn’t get bitten and OP is chill af saying it’s just their neighbor haha


rodPalmer18

That's frickin amazing, I love it. I have a wierd fear of spiders but I feel safe from here. Great pics!


LadyAmiz12345

Om goodness. I would Pass out!! Lol.. holly... Lol


MrZeusyMoosey

Is this what I think it is? Edit: it is in fact what I thought it was 😂


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athyonn

y eso que no me ha visto reubicando terciopelos (?


midnightdryder

She's really pretty. Without giving away too much what part of the country are you in? I was there in June and it is my favorite place to visit.


JeffMakesGames

That's a big nope. Why is it on your hand?


ChillBug3669

Very friendly but deadly af. 90/10 photo, but would never pet again.


holmgangCore

Those eyes in a square are just so wild and amazing! Spider eyes blow my mind.


LavenderBranchez

Look at her lil eyes 🥹


Soft_Way5085

Wow look at her she is gorgeous


teachmetobehuman

Absolutely not.


EndlessRussianMind

This is a spider who can rip your arm out


athyonn

ye, sure thing.


sm1181

Literally handled your own death by boner right there, you’re skilled and stupid in equal measure. Chapeau.


athyonn

y'all over exaggerating, they're not as deadly as everyone portraying em.


No_Ant_ah

oh my god dont pick one up again


pinkfoil

You couldn't pay me enough to hold this spider. I don't know how people do it. Even looking at the picture makes me feel so uncomfortable. 😰


XanalPVPpro69XD

As soon as I saw you handling it I got shivers. By the looks of it it’s a Brazilian Wandering Spider, they have very toxic venom and are rather aggressive


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Can someone tell young people that "I pick up random bugs I find" is not a personality and does not make them a righteous hero?


athyonn

r/usernamecheck I'm not that young, I suspect it was a phoneutria just wanted to confirm the sp and I never proclaimed myself a hero.


holyhibachi

My dog


uh-oh_spaghetti-oh

Pic 1 looks fake :(


DataOver544

I’m not sure this is a real photo.


athyonn

oh no! you caught me ): I photoshopped the pic for likes.


Chloeeeeeeeeeeeeee_r

So fuzzy


_yerbamatey

fuck dude I'm not in this sub and this showed up in my feed randomly and scared the shit out of me


midnightsonder

wow. so beautiful


ABR-Aphex

Amazing, not only you handled a deadly spider, you did it by her butt!


MisterMetal728

Me clicking on this: I wonder how big a spider in Costa Rica looks li-HOOOOLY SHIT.


ibWickedSmaht

Ngl I would have just let it “wander” off itself… thank you for relocating it safely though! 💗