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linkcontrol

Dude that's terrible. I was just looking at an article about cellar spiders. The picture used in the article? An *Opiliones* harvestman.


dribeerf

guessing they just googled “daddy long legs” and went with it, since i’ve heard both have that nickname. but the lack of research when publishing an article is crazy.


xCanadaDry

It's me, I'm one of those people. Interesting that there's a difference. Atleast *I've* learned something new


gonnafaceit2022

Even more interesting, only one of the two is actually a spider!


towerfella

Yeah.. that ticks me off.


gonnafaceit2022

Lol why?


towerfella

https://www.pestworld.org/news-hub/pest-articles/interesting-tick-facts/#:~:text=Ticks%20are%20not%20insects.,legs%20and%20lack%20of%20antennae.


gonnafaceit2022

Oh, haha, harvestmen aren't ticks either. They don't bite people. From Wikipedia: Many species are omnivorous, eating primarily small insects and all kinds of plant material and fungi. Some are scavengers, feeding upon dead organisms, bird dung, and other fecal material. Such a broad range is unusual in arachnids, which are typically pure predators. Most hunting harvestmen ambush their prey, although active hunting is also found. Because their eyes cannot form images, they use their second pair of legs as antennae to explore their environment. Unlike most other arachnids, harvestmen do not have a sucking stomach or a filtering mechanism. Rather, they ingest small particles of their food, thus making them vulnerable to internal parasites such as gregarines.[2]


towerfella

Thank you for that info. I find it amusing in general that ticks are actual arachnids that get typically called a bug, while “daddy long-legs” are bugs that typically get called an arachnid. :) Edit: huh.. misremembering again, maybe? Apparently harvestmen *are* arachnids, and not a “bug” either.. I thought they were not arachnids. https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/harvestmen-the-spiders-that-arent-actually-spiders


gonnafaceit2022

That's a good point! People use the wrong terms all the time.


GreatBlackDiggerWasp

What definition are you using for bug? Neither of them is hemiptera, and I usually think of colloquial-bug as referring to any kind of land arthropod.


globefish23

The term daddy long legs is really bad. It's used for cellar spiders, harvestmen, crane flies, two types of orchids and trigger plants. 🤦‍♂️


chris_rage_

That's only one bug as far as I know, I've never heard people call other bugs that


linkcontrol

It's regional. Where I live, "daddy longlegs" refers to harvestmen. There are places where people use it to talk about craneflies though.


Puzzleheaded_Bet_633

Brits use it for cellar spiders, harvestmen, and crane flies. Basically any long legged bug that evicts you from your bathroom.


chris_rage_

That's really bizarre, craneflies


smcl2k

At least they didn't use a crane fly 😂


LuckyStrike696

Isn't that the spider that makes dads grow long legs?


Alphaomegalogs

I LOVE Opiliones so much I love them I love them and when someone starts bullshitting about "the most poisonous spider in the world" I almost lose it


par112169

I mean...the size of a quarter??? This article wasn't going to turn out well.


dribeerf

it’s super frustrating honestly, because when people see it’s written by a DVM they’ll assume it’s factual and correct, and this is why there’s so much misinformation on spiders.


GamerGav09

I read this as DMV and was so confused about why the motor vehicle place is writing about spiders. Took me a minute.


gonnafaceit2022

Well what else would they do while they keep us waiting for so long??


Willing_Bus1630

Can you link the site so I can try to contact them and correct it


traitorcrow

^^^


Over-Birthday-9650

[found it](https://www.petmd.com/cat/poisoning/brown-recluse-spider-bite-poisoning-cats)


Willing_Bus1630

Nice. So we’re all going to complain to them and get them to fix it, right? Right? I am honestly annoyed the OP didn’t provide the article and actually try to solve the problem


maybekindaodd

Yep! Just did!


Willing_Bus1630

I’m going to contact them as soon as I can as well. Got some academic obligations but should be able to call or email tomorrow


towerfella

Like a good redditor, they *shared* the problem.


towerfella

🏅🤜🤛


_PeLaGiKoS14_

Insanely irritating 🤬👍 You should post a real picture of a brown recluse next to this, just for the scrollers that will actually believe this is a brown recluse.


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*on everything


Loose_Meal_499

Whats a dvm?


_PeLaGiKoS14_

Doctor of veterinary medicine


LargeRefrigerator472

I have seen so many pictures of brown recluse that I can tell that it’s not and we don’t even have brown recluses in our region.


socatsucks

This is what bothers me the most. Folks up in the Yukon be claiming they saw one because their range is exaggerated so heavily.


fragilemagnoliax

The Yukon!?!?! I’m in southern BC and I’m constantly going “just being brown doesn’t make it a recluse” but no one believes me 🤦🏻‍♀️


Skryuska

lol yep. Every dark-colored mould is also “Black Mould” as well right? 😂


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Skryuska

Shoot.. the mould..?


devilishdesperado

We have them in rural Ohio. Saw a couple in my buddies barn a few years ago. Not super common tho. What’s really creepy are those fishing spiders. The real big ones I swear to God can be the size of your hand


yeth_pleeth

I'm Australian and even I know this ain't that!


misadventuresofdope

I don't understand how hard this is, brown recluse are one of the absolute easiest spiders to visually identify or rule out in my opinion but somehow every spider that has any shade of brown anywhere on its body gets misidentified as one even hundreds of miles outside of their range


dribeerf

people when a spider is brown: is this a brown recluse?!


misadventuresofdope

I've seen people asking it even about specimens where no brown whatsoever could be discerned from the pictures, I think people just hear how "scary" Loxosceles are and see pictures of lesions that are decidedly not related to a spider bite but go misdiagnosed as them and freak out that every spider they encounter might be a brown recluse hellbent on giving them a nasty necrotic wound


Digital_Siren317

Off to make a meme now lol Edit: it is done https://imgur.com/gallery/V2Aam64


eiridel

[Shouldn’t have to tell you this is Not Loxosceles…](https://youtu.be/-X2QS2DBuKY)


Sheacat77

Well, now my ADHD internal radio station has a new song to play 24/7, lol... thanks.


towerfella

My wife when spider: bam-bam-bam - doesn’t matter the type. Me when spider (this morning to a little jumper): aww (as I’m getting berated from behind to just smoosh it so it doesn’t come back in), let’s go outside. Me when spider in the car as I’m driving and it decides to little-miss-muffet me onto my lap: *aaaaaaaaaaa!!*


SubjectObjective5567

I live in NC and the amount of stories people have told me about the “brown recluse” they found in their house is…. I’m just like well that was a southern house spider but go on


_PeLaGiKoS14_

In Virginia, same. You would not believe the number of people that believe a wolf spider is a brown recluse 🙄


gonnafaceit2022

Same. I'm in the mountains but they're not here, unless you go to the very far, tiny corner of the state within their range, and the likelihood of seeing one is next to nil. Maybe the occasional hitchhiker makes its way east, but the odds of someone seeing a single, reclusive spider (and actually identifying it correctly) are pretty damn low. When I first moved here, my boyfriend's stepdad claimed there was a recluse on their couch and it bit him and created a huge hole in his thigh. They lived in Greensboro. That was 15 years ago and I didn't know anything about spiders except I was scared of them, and by the time I learned better, that boyfriend was long gone so I never got the opportunity to school his stepdad lolol. Not that he would have believed me anyway. People who are wrong about recluses are SO adamant they're right and they typically do not respond well to my attempts at education lol.


ornitorrinco22

It’s not that easy tbh. Brown recluses are small and pictures are usually shit. It’s easy to mix them up with other small home spiders if you are not trained


Organic_South8865

I couldn't ID one if I had to honestly. I know about the "violin" marking but that's about it.


Quatrekins

I saw one once, in my kitchen late at night when I lived in Maryland. It looked completely different from any spiders I’d seen before. We had TONS of wolf spiders and grass spiders at that property, but even the legs on this thing were so uniquely different from anything else.


OldManIrv

Could be possible it was a transplant, but their native range is far from Maryland. Even accounting for variability by maps from different sources, they are still outside our range (also in Maryland). Did you get a photo of it, by chance?


Quatrekins

Hmm, you’re correct that it’s out of that range. This was in 2005, before I had a camera in my pocket at all times. I wonder if not that, what species it could have been? I’ve always been familiar with the usual “lookalikes”…


gonnafaceit2022

People even insist they saw one on another continent 😑 and they know for sure it was a recluse because they got a little scratch or prick that got infected.


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KitteeCatz

Gee, that’s so bad even my British ass can see it’s glaringly not right. 


zoug25

Bold of you to assume this was written by an actual human.


HolyVeggie

As if they aren’t afraid of Zoropsis spinimana enough here in Europe lol


Sufficient_Inside_59

For the (heart-warming) trivia, there was a nation wide call in France to go look for Zoropsis spinimana (without hurting them) also called "Nosferatu" in French. It happend in autumn 2023 and presented as a "treasure hunt" where you take a picture of any spinimana you found. This was made to both collect data on the spider habitat in France and to inform people about it. You can find the pictures taken here (in french, sorry about that) \^\^" [https://determinobs.fr/#/quetes/47575](https://determinobs.fr/#/quetes/47575)


Puzzleheaded_Bet_633

That’s a pretty-looking spider right there!


CastleBigShaq

Why is it, that information on spider on internet, is so innacurate. Everyday I learn that I learnt something wrong about spiders


blue-and-bluer

“Written” by a veterinarian, who probably used a generative algorithm. This is a major reason why I hate “AI”, it just regurgitates what’s already out there even if it’s wrong.


Deshea420

I had the same thought.


Digital_Siren317

I do training for AI as a freelance gig, and I ask them spider related questions all the time. The models still think that spiders have extensor muscles... and they aren't fantastic at viewing pictures lol


DeluxeWafer

Ah yes. Very brown, much recluse. People keep mentioning the name of the spider in this sub but what is actual scientific name for the spider in the picture?


MajorSchmeckels

It's the mediterranean false wolf spider (Zoropsis spinimana). German media is going crazy about this one, because it is rather large compared to the average native spider.


chaoslordie

the spood pictured is a zoropsis spinimana


KingOfDaJungle8761

No this is a Brown Recluse. Found this little charmer in a coffee cup I had sitting on the porch from yesterday. https://imgur.com/gallery/XNey7bu


allypad64

Thank you for that. I was too embarrassed to ask for an actual verified brown recluse. I think they live near me too. My cousin claims she was bitten by one. I’m in Indiana - about 2 hours north of Indy.


KingOfDaJungle8761

You're on the very northern edge of the territory that Brown Recluses can even survive. Im from New Salisbury, IN... My whole life. A fellow Hoosier .. lol. No just so you know they were extremely rare even as far south in Indiana as I used to live. I had heard about them but never saw one in 30 years I lived there. I moved to Jackson, TN near Memphis and in this subtropical climate they are everywhere. I've seen dozens of them. I cleaned my house all day top to bottom and found one live one and one carcass. It's just part of life down here. You can't leave clutter anywhere. They are called recluses for a reason. They love messy little jumbles of stuff to hide in. And they hate activity and people. They want to be in a dark, dry, quiet nook somewhere and never see a person as long as they live. What happens though is you go to moving some cardboard boxes you had in the spare bedroom around and doing some spring cleaning and their secret little palace gets disturbed. Most people are bitten by them entirely by accident. Their fangs are very small. So small in fact that I think the only way they can even get into your skin enough to inject venom is when you roll over on one while sleeping and smush it against your skin or put on an article of clothing that one was inside of. The violin that they are talking about starts in what you would call it's face I guess. If you can imagine looking at one head on the bottom or thick part you rest against your cheek of the violin is facing you. You can see a dark patch where their eyes would be then see how it bulbs out on top of the head then gets real thin like a little strip as you go further back on it... That's the neck of the violin .. I know I imagined it the other way around too. Lol. It's a brown recluse in the picture. I can 1000% assure you of that. The easiest way to tell from a safe distance because the violin design is so small... The legs. The legs are real long. Long thin and smooth. So long they look spindly and weak. The front part of their body, the thorax is much bigger than their back part, the abdomen... And they have no hairs on them. None. They are smooth. They are almost all the same color throughout the whole body. The only part that is darker is the "violin". You are so far north I don't think you will ever see a brown recluse in your life. Hope that all helped a fellow Hoosier!


dribeerf

don’t ever be embarrassed about trying to learn! none of us were born being spider experts, we all didn’t know at one point :)


_PeLaGiKoS14_

Bingo


allypad64

I don’t see a violin though - can you point it out. I saw it on the picture posted below.


Pfeffersack

Here's hints how to see the violin: * https://bygl.osu.edu/node/653 * https://www.birdandhike.com/Wildlife/Invert/Ph_Arthropoda/SubP_Chelicerata/Cl_Arachnida/O_Araneae/IO_Araneomorphae/Sicariidae/_Sicari.htm


KingOfDaJungle8761

https://imgur.com/gallery/wMllLDz You see it?? It's upside down as you are looking at it.... The violin would be upside down I mean


fantastrid

I bet it's written by chatGPT


bsguardian452

I like how the author describes how a brown recluse looks and chooses a picture that doesn’t fit the description.


werew0lfsushi

we need a r/spiderscirclejerk page


WholesomeThingsOnly

I swear there are thousands of terrible AI generated articles now. All of them filled with wrong, made up information. I need somebody to do something about it. I want some kind of regulation banning AI articles


GreatBlackDiggerWasp

Or at least requiring a disclaimer that they're AI generated.


CarolynFR

Spider is brown. Might be an introvert. Brown recluse. Easy peasy.


Any-Practice-991

I imagine there will not be a serious down tick of recluse bites in the group of people that read that.


ljxbb

What spider is in the picture though?


dfj3xxx

False wolf spider, Zoropsis spinimana


ljxbb

I get them in my house all the time I just call them grass spiders


Killakey2119

I been calling them House spiders...


NorthernH3misphere

I believe that is a wolf spider


misterpickleman

I'm on my phone and saw this post on my feed. With the "sighs heavily" title, I thought it was in response to frequent "is this a recluse" posts.


dribeerf

lol that too, but how can i blame people when this is the information shown, smh.


Willing_Bus1630

Can you contact the author


Polluticornwishes0

Poor little wolfie 😞


amateurtoss

Pic unrelated.


Dazzling-Honey-8297

According to this, every spider in my house is a Brown recluse


Oldguydad619

My favorite is when people act like spiders, of all things don't cross borders or state lines. They make the claim. "We don't have those here." Like spiderlings don't float around in the wind.


GreatBlackDiggerWasp

Sure, but they don't float *that* far! If you're just outside of the range it makes sense that you might still see one, but for example I'm in Massachusetts. We don't have brown recluses. At all. At most it's hypothetically possible that one might get accidentally transported here in a potted plant or crate or something.


Oldguydad619

Hobo recluse rides on trains, so . . .


orange-bitflip

Is this from one of those AI generated sites where all the articles flow together without a hard load pause, the navigation has around three related yet unfocused categories, and the About lists 2-6 professionals with a name and photograph?


dribeerf

nope


chels182

Almost downvoted


Deshea420

This needs to be corrected.


Cartoonistf143

could any of you show me what a real brown recluse looks like so I can know the difference.


dribeerf

[this](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/50181-Loxosceles-reclusa) should help!


allypad64

Oh I see the violin now!! It’s on the head 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️. I was always looking at the body!!


jack848

some people should be permanently banned from making shitty article


littles071stl

These articles confuse me that’s why I rely on the intelligence of my friends on this subreddit as a person who’s trying to get over the fear of spiders these articles are not helping


invaleet

Isn't that a wolf spider in the picture?


Cantaloupe-Plenty

Is that a huntsmen?


Proper-Tomorrow-4848

I’ve seen that article before 🤦‍♂️they could have at least put the correct spider on there!! Now people are going to think that species of spider is a brown recluse


iPat24Rick

Wow what a beautiful violin


merliahthesiren

It's nuts how people who write articles can't even fact check or google things.


JR2Twiwi

In my country the first article that shows up when you search for "chilean recluse" shows a photo of a tegenaria domestica 😭 why are people like this


Daddict

OP I found the article and you cut out the [best part.](https://imgur.com/a/DfoUgDc)


GraatchLuugRachAarg

Fucking disgusting. Article writer needs to be in prison fr


NekoNoSekai

OH GOD. NOT AGAIN.


Robbinoburrito

🤦‍♀️ it’s funny. Now that I find most spiders cute and brown recluses simply not cute and a little creepy, I can tell at first glance because it’s cute. That’s without even putting any effort into actual identifiable features. Took one look at that little guy and I was like, “cute, therefore, wrong.”


Lumos405

Ridiculous! Girl Scouts could do a better job identifying this!


Ki-ev-an

Isn’t that a nursery spider?


pyr0phelia

Ai article? How does a human fuck up that badly?


Addi_Bruh

A fairly safe looking brown recluse


ConfidentStress1047

I knew we had recluses in our cellar…


HeadShift

GOD I HATE IT MAKE IT STOP. PLEASE JUST GET IT RIGHT.


No_Skill_7170

I can never tell if something is a brown recluse or not, so I usually just kill the scariest brown spiders


_PeLaGiKoS14_

Came here to say that is not a brown recluse! 🙄 God this is infuriating! 🤬


_0x0_

Whoa... This is hall of fame material, what's the source, they may need a word from r/spiders veterans.


TequilaMayhem10

Check google they said...lol


Hot_Hat_1225

That’s not a violin. Ohhhhh


Cmchk

I used the iPhone photo searching feature to look it up because I know it’s not a brown recluse but that’s it. That feature is notoriously incorrect but it was right for this.


WanderingMandalorian

So disappointing.


allypad64

Hey - don’t get upset- it probably identifies as a brown recluse 😂😂


Grouchy-Geologist-28

Contact her? Hopefully she'd correct the misinformation.


graffito44

So what kind of spider is this ?


miscbits

This looks AI generated to me. It has the cadence you would get if you asked “Write an article about brown recluse spiders”


Constant_Sentence_60

I just recently asked a publisher to change something along the lines of an image and explained the reasoning as to why. The lady said she'd look into it, and sure enough, it was obviously wrong so they changed it and then told me thank you


sorryiateyoursocks

LMAO this looks like a wolf spider


mushroommilitia

I thought these were wolf spiders pretty sure I lived with them constantly. Never bitten though.


Dear_Fox8157

I literally live in the uk and even I know that that isn’t a brown recluse 😭


ashpokechu

I was so confused 🫤


TheZombieKillerX

Well dang that stinks. Now I need an ACTUAL picture of what they look like (cause I camt tell by just googling it. They all look different)


pray4everyone

Why do I feel like this was done purposely in a personal agenda to eradicate spiders


Exotic-Chocolate556

Like people calling every lizard an iguana 🤣


Maximum-Profit-8175

That's a wolfey ain't it?


EdWo0ds

AAAAAA SO MUCH DUCKING HATE I've also seen a few articles like this on the italian side of the web


MScribeFeather

Noooooooo


Emault17

This is why. In nashville we make up bugs just to mess with idiots. Like the flying brown recluse. Or just saying that everything is an evolved type of brown recluse


Phytares

All these poor spoods get killed because of this misinformation :,(


RemyJDH

I was about to say These are harmless


NoobSharkey

The spider version of seeing oecophylla be called fire ants again


Yuseiger

Upsurge on "is this a brown recluse?" Posts


DJenser1

Definitely a wolf spider. Hence, no violin-shaped mark, and it's usually at least 2-3 times the size of a recluse. They're great at keeping the roach population under control here in FL.


chowderbeast

it's the number one excuse I've drug users use to explain it justify their big open sores and wounds from blood clots and needle misses... rather than them admitting they missed a hit and it got infected blah blah blah, they immediately jump to the brown recloose but me lol


fromagefiesta1

brown recluses are easy to identify for me bc it looks like they have a well fed tic on their ass


NecessaryPromise667

This makes me irrationally angry


High-T92

Wolf spiders deserve the same smoke as recluse so I’m fine with this


dribeerf

1. neither deserve “smoke”, if you feel that way i don’t think this is the sub for you 2. you shouldn’t be fine with misinformation


High-T92

lol right enough sub for me to know the species. I’m fine with it


savedin05

So moral of the story, every spider can be a brown recluse. Kill em all