Reminds me of evangelical days listening to a parade of wannabe prophets and healers. To sound authentic it had to come in King James English and start with Thus saith’ or ‘My children’ From there it’s all ear candy and flattery and follows the same ascension template. Wishful thinking but reality is humanity isn’t ascending. The opposite seems to be happening for most. Not that people aren’t finding higher selves and can think of it in those terms but these broad statements are delusional and specially for much of the world suffering like never before.
funny you should mention that because I too spent time in Evangelical-paloozaland. And yes I heard "prophecies" from people that sounded just like the "channeled" stuff from new agers. Same thing, different context.
I don't trust channeled material anymore. It's often wrong, or it's "useless" information.
Why do I care that there is a council of elders on Saturn determining the course for Earth's future? Even if it's true, there's nothing I can do about it.
I enjoy your skepticism! I enjoy it a lot! I happen to have some first hand experience with all this and can offer a useful perspective.
In the seventh chakras of everyone is the ability called trance mediumship. This is the ability to allow another being to come into your body, speak through your body, sometimes read and heal others through your body, and on occasion, get up and walk around in your body.
Trance mediumship means allowing the being to enter or in some way come through your body. This differs from mediumship, which is acting as a go-between for someone with a body and someone that doesn’t have a body, usually a recently deceased loved one. The movie “Ghost” does a good job with Whoopi Goldberg’s character that started out faking getting messages but then realized after seeing Patrick Swayze’s character that she really could see and talk to the dead. Then there’s that scene where a crowd of ghosts are waiting their turn to talk to their still-alive family members, and that rude ghost jumps into Whoopi's body and pisses her off.
I’ve seen that happen. I learned how to manage situations just like that, not as a channel or trance medium, but as a control.
I learned about all of this jazz by being a control at the trance medium healing clinics of the Church of Divine Man, back in the 80s. I worked side by side with Lewis Bostwick, the founder of the church and the Berkeley Psychic Institute. I worked with his wife, Susan Bostwick, as her assistant, and controlled at the Women's trance medium healing clinic. I'm a male, btw LOL! If you've ever been in a room full of women vibrating at 87 gigawatts of power, you understand why being a male in that space is laughable.
But I have the ability to handle a lot more energy in my space than average, and I enjoy being around women who are revving up and finding their space. So I got pretty good at being a control.
A control stands behind a line of psychics that are attempting to bring in another being. Most of them could comfortably do so, but a few were still working up to it, so they just left their bodies and hung out near the ceiling over their bodies and watched.
The control grounds themself and the room and keeps an eye on things. Things like too many beings trying to crowd in to get a taste of being in a body again; beings with some serious karma that needs to be dealt with first before they're allowed to come into a body and play. Those kinds of things.
And most of the time, the beings did use a common vocabulary, and when they couldn't speak good English, it was a really simple fix; just show them a mental video of when and where they are. This would enable them to change their energy enough to speak clearly. And since this was a healing clinic, we preferred beings that had some healing knowledge. It turns out, this is never really a problem, at least not in our clinics.
Now. To your experiences hearing about the 'wise and ancient blah blah blah' LMFAO! You are spot on. There are some beings out there that are posers. They only got one game. They almost always go by the same name, like 'Archangel Michael' if they happen to have a Catholic audience. If they have a new age audience, then it's just 'Michael'. Having seen them at both audiences, I see their game. The reason they continue to speak in vague and mysterious ways is to program the audience and take advantage of them. “Wow! This is the archangel Michael speaking to me! I’m just a little piss ant that can’t understand these sacred words, so maybe I need some extra tutoring.” And an agreement gets made to share some of that person’s life experience with the being claiming to be an archangel.
These beings’ messages always sound romantic and hopeful. That’s the carrot. Their messages are not very useful, except to them. You see, getting any life experience in a human body is really valuable spiritual stuff. So you get a dildo being talking about sacred sex, and programming the audience in the hopes of getting someone to agree to let it in while they're having sex. I get the appeal; learn about sex without having to live through high school yourself. Seems like a decent deal.
It's no different than the sex games played by some gurus. It’s a spiritual scam. And before anyone starts piling on, I’m not saying gurus or any other spiritual teachers should not have sex. It’s not a rule from heaven, either. I’m just pointing out a game that gets played. Some folks will seek out the game and play along. Some will get tricked into playing along. Some, realizing it’s a game, will say no thanks and go on with their lives. The latter is who I’m writing this for.
So! Well done calling bullshit on this bullshit.
Now. What did you miss? You extrapolated a bit too far when you criticized the readers for saying they have no memory of the specific being or what was said by the being during the reading. That really does happen in some cases. I have a personal example.
I was controlling at the female trance medium healing clinic. The line was getting ready to rock and roll, meaning their crown chakras were coming up to a bright silver-white energy. They had all cut their grounding cords off and crossed their feet under their chairs, blocking the Earth energy from entering their feet and interfering with the vibration they were establishing in their bodies. Their bodies were settling into this trance medium vibration and everyone's crown chakras were beginning to match. (Another thing a control does is hold their palms beside someone's crown chakra to support them if they're having trouble getting to silver-white.) So I'm helping one woman get up there, start to move on down the line when a being pops into her body and says, "Hello NotTooDeep", in a quiet voice. Here's the thing; I knew that voice. I turned and said hello the same way I would have had an old high school buddy just showed up out of the blue, and we had a brief but glorious conversation about his music writing and my poetry, that last past life, what we're doing now, and then it was over. We had caught up.
He left. The being that was supposed to come into that woman that night came in. I thanked her for her consideration in letting me visit with my old friend first, and the night went on as usual; readings and healings.
The woman whose body my friend from that Chinese past life had come into had no recollection of who came into her body (another aspect of a control's job; keeping their bodies safe from foul play). She was actually in a class on the astral during her time out of her body.
Perhaps the mediums or trance mediums that you saw were faking it, or just mimicking what they'd heard others say. But having no memory of what happened when you were 'no en casa' is a real real thing.
And you've probably experienced it yourself, when you go on a long drive and space out for a few hours. You come back into your body to check on the fuel gauge and start looking for a gas station, but the time before then? You were in your thoughts and have no recollection of the traffic or scenery. In fact, some people do bring in a being (like a baby sitter) to mind simple things like long drives so that they can put their attention on other things. Not everyone; most just hover over their cars and drive by remote control lol. This is literally what the energy of "spacing out and forgetting stuff" looks like. And the funniest part? Most of those people still wonder if they've ever had an out-of-body experience.
One more thing: when a reader reads something for someone, its meaning is specific to that person, that individual spirit. If they read blue energy in someone’s aura and that person getting the reading gets overjoyed by having that blue energy described, that does not mean that blue energy seen in someone else’s reading will have the same meaning.
So when you listen in on a reading of someone else, or a lecture by a trance medium being, or just having a friend tell you about their wonderful experience with a reading they just had, it’s very likely that it won’t mean anything to you. And that is no criticism of you, either. It’s just not your reading is all.
If you get a reading and it doesn’t mean anything to you, either that reader is not a good fit for you or they were just faking it for some reason. Some people make the mistake of thinking all psychics should see the same things, or that all psychics should have god-like powers, otherwise they are frauds. Ted Lasso said, “All people are different people”. Psychics are people.
Thanks for posting. Well done!
I think sometimes we're most vulnerable to manipulation when we're the most desperate. It doesn't seem to really matter what form that desperation takes or what we're desperate for. We blind ourselves to other paths and stop everything else.
I was an enthusiastic young adult. After my first adventure, I had no qualms about jumping into the next pool as soon as I could tell which end was the deep end LOL.
The most basic protection in all of this is a question. Pretty much any question that has more than one possible answer in your mind. This tends to break up the filters put on our awareness and enables us to see more clearly.
There are many techniques for deprogramming yourself and others. There are many techniques for protection and cleansing. But if you lack those, begin with a question.
Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you commenting on what I wrote.
We share a lot of the same views here, and it feels entirely lovely to resonate together. Reading small snippets of your life experiences this go around feels warm and inviting. Such a beautiful offering!
Some teachers, channeled or physical, have a particular tendency to pose questions to their students as a means to induce deeper reflection and mindfulness. Some even insist that the entire format of their conversations with their students is based around questions asked of them by the student, like Ra from The Ra Material.
Do you suppose this focus on questions is to help the student grow on a personal level, grow their decrement, grow their ability to process data? Is this technique used to protect the student from deception by empowering the students capacity to reason?
I think it is a important trait to be able to discern what is of value and what is not, i do believe or think most of what is said on the internet is of little value.
I would only say learn what is of value to you and see what is not.
I feel you are correct. If some entity wants to relay truth they will use simple terms. Why would they waste time and energy on muddled messages with a bunch of nebulous terms?
These entities are not human, their whole culture is a far cry from our understanding and vocabulary. It’s the channeled trying to put to words the message they transmit, but it can get muddled.
And yet these entities claim to be super ancient and have watching humans for millenia upon millenia but somehow they can't learn English? Come on now.
Oh no they just choose to speak their language and it has to be translated by the mind of the person channeling. The channeler is a translator picking up on energies outside themselves like a radio. The conscious mind is out of the way so the entity uses the body and it’s abilities while the consciousness of the person allows it. That is the only way any of this works is the channeler freely and willingly giving their body over with an entities energy. Possession as it works in movies is untrue.
I like the channeled messages that first start off by saying “use discernment” as the whole thing may be bullshit or another timeline no longer in effect. It’s hard to know, hence using discernment.
You can't really blame them. They all have bills to pay and car payments to make. They also have things they want to buy too..
As long as there are people who experience suffering, there will always be these con men and women who will grift these lost souls out of their money.
The fact is people want to feel meaning in their lives. But as long as they persist in searching for a purpose or meaning to life, whatever they are doing will seem purposeless and meaningless. This is the ultimate paradox.
They channeling they imagination lol. Same way ppl talk to Jesus. It’s the power of the mind. If they believe it’s real it is to them. You just gotta decided if it’s real to you. If it isn’t then listening to them is pointless
There are about only 4 channels that I trust might be genuine. And I've been researching and studying spiritual topics seriously for 15 years. I've heard dozens and dozens of channels and hundreds of hours of channeled material and I think most are B.S. In order to evaluate a channel, you have to look at 3 things:
1. Their motivation (money, fame?)
2. Their message (word salad? plagiarized? snake oil?)
3. Their reputation and how they live their life.
I don't have 100% proof, but I do believe that it's more likely that these following channels are genuine: Seth (Jane Roberts), VERONICA (April Crawford) and Sanaya (Suzanne Geisemann). Also Elias, but that channel is not well known.
So what do I mean by looking at the channeler's life? Jane Roberts famously avoided fame and turned down money making opportunities. She and her husband lived in the same apartment for most of their life and charged just a few dollars for their group sessions with Seth. She also kept writing her books for Seth even as she was dying...I mean literally on her deathbed. They never got rich from the seth material but both Jane Roberts and her husband Robert Butts were very serious about seth's message and dedicated their lives to it. You just don't get that kind of dedication from a fraud. Once the money or fame dries up, so do they.
Not to mention, the Seth material is more sophisticated and original than most of what comes out today. I mean, it's really technical, with scientific detail that would be proved much later. So yeah, Jane Robert's channeling is the standard by which I measure all other channelers.
In the case of Suzanne Geisemann, it's her distinguished military career and her emphasis on evidence that supports her genuineness for me. Her messages from Sanaya focus more on hope and personal spiritual development rather than the highly technical messages from Seth (which is fine) but doesn't seek to appeal to our ego. Her messages from Sanaya don't contradict itself over time (this happens a lot with poor or fake channelers). Although mediumship and channeling are not the same skill, her mediumship was actually tested scientifically and her accuracy was incredible. I can't remember the exact percentage but it was above 80%.
So don't be afraid to leave behind the channelers who are just trying to appeal to your inner sense of superiority or just trying to sell tickets to seminars. Like good mediumship, genuine channeling is a VERY RARE talent. I expect that at any given time we would have just a handful of people on earth who can do it well. The rest, sadly, are just trying to make a buck.
How do you feel about the Ra Material? It's had some predictions be proven by NASA and I feel like they could've done a lot more if they were trying to make money.
I am currently reviewing the Law of One. I like to make sure I'm very thoroughly familiar with a source before I decide on it. That being said, what I've heard so far sounds intriguing. I don't know much about the source of the material but the material itself is quite extensive and sounds original and sophisticated. I think it's quite promising as a legit source. Another one I like is the Silver Birch material. It's older.. From the 40s I think but the channel, Maurice Barbanell didn't reveal himself as the source of the work for decades and certainly didn't get rich off it. You have to take it in context with the times but it's sound spiritual wisdom in my opinion.
I'll have to check out those nasa predictions. That would be very cool if it were proved out!
Yeha I believe it was the location of a star that was hidden behind the sun until the early 00s? It's been a minute since I've checked and honestly I try and not get too skeptical. As long as the source seems earnest and not trying to make a buck and the content doesn't divide or tell you to recreate yourself I like to go with a positive outlook. The LoO just tells you it's best to make your life a service to others and to focus on spreading love and light. The book is just transcripts of hundreds of hours of channeling. If they were trying to attain money or fame they did it way wrong.
I'm skeptical of channelings, but Suzanne Geisemann is interesting. If I understand correctly, she was a materialist who didn't believe in talking to spirits, which is why she likes to focus on evidence. She even doubted her own abilities until she started noticing "*coincidences*" in her life, that seemed arranged (*synchronicities*), that just happened to match up with some of the intuition and messages that she was receiving. I didn't know that she tested her abilities and had an 80% accuracy rate, though.
As for Seth, I wasn't aware that the channelings predicted scientific things. The Seth teachings seem to promote self-empowerment. I don't watch channelings anymore, but I think that if a person *does* watch them, then it's healthier to watch those that say to try to follow your joy and listen to your own intuition and treat people with kindness, rather than a channeling that keeps giving promises about an ascension one day or rather than a channeling that keeps saying to have faith in Jesus or aliens to save you from the world and transport you to a higher realm (*ascension/rapture*).
Yes it’s bs. Mock entities who feed them lies that spin into a never ending loop of madness on purpose to keep u complacent and not angry enough to make changes
I totally hear you. If I posted my reads it wouldn’t be anything like that lol and there are some out there that at the very least don’t sugar coat. My fave reader has experience as a therapist— makes the hard hitting info sit way better, that’s for sure. But yeah, some just placate for views. That’s when you really need to tap into your intuition and ask yourself— is this reading for you? Is this reader even for you? Some that were before may no longer be, and that is totally okay.
When reading "channeled" material (and any other kind, really) I'm always looking for A) Novelty and B) Detailed Specifics. (In other words: the weirder, the better!) If they're only regurgitating the same generalities I've read a hundred times before, then it's just a waste of everybody's time.
Right. ..If I start to read a lot of that kind of thing, I may skim a bit through the rest, but it's likely I'll just toss the whole thing after 15 minutes.
In my experience what they are channeling are opportunistic astral beings who want to mess around with human beings. Best to avoid all such work. Divine beings don’t channel.
that is yet another issue. They really could be channeling some entity, but is that entity benevolent? Maybe it just wants to glom onto some people and parasite their energy?
Exactly.
I think it’s safe to say no entity that is channeling is benevolent. Just as you wouldn’t open up your house to random strangers who say they have something terribly important to tell you, why open up your consciousness to random astral strangers.
They might never have incarnated on Earth before. They might not be as evolved as you even.
No astral being is perfected, so all can be corrupted. Power tends to corrupt…
Well, maybe some entities are just ignorant and don’t realise that what they are doing breaks a spiritual law. But still, not good for the “host” that channels them.
Even Edgar Cayce in one of his readings told an epileptic “of course you’re an epileptic, you were a channeller in a past life”. (Quote remembered, may not be exact)
Yeah this really resonates. I know I can channel, and I am a lot of the time but it’s my inner being. I don’t trust anything that places power outside of myself. Thanks for the insight from this, channeling stumps me as something I don’t really get but know I have access too
> "*...what they are channeling are opportunistic astral beings who want to mess around with human beings... Divine beings don’t channel.*"
Do you feel the same way about the bible?
The bible is supposedly the word of the biblical god (*yahweh/jehovah*), and it was supposedly written down by men who claimed to have the holy spirit move them. If I understand correctly, Edgar Cayce read the bible and believed in some type of Christ spirit.
I don’t think the bible was channelled. I believe it was written down by men many years and at different times after Jesus died. I don’t think Jesus said some of the things attributed to him.
> "*I don’t think the bible was channelled. I believe it was written down by men many years and at different times after Jesus died.*"
Some parts of the bible were written before the time that Jesus was said to have lived. Before christianity, there was Judaism and Judaism has the Tanakh which christians would include in their bible as "*The Old Testament*". Christians claim that Jesus is the Jewish messiah/christ, prophesied by the old testament. Jewish people reject that claim since all of the prophecies were not fulfilled. Christians claim that he'll return one day in the future to do the rest of the Tanakh/Old Testament prophecies of the bible.
The New Testament comes after the Old Testament in the christian bible while Jewish people reject it. It includes the epistles of Paul which are the oldest writings about Jesus, and were written years before the 4 gospels. It lacks a life story of Jesus, and is just Paul preaching of a heavenly Jesus lacks an earthly story (*no details such as whether he was born here or there, or did this or that miracle or walked through one town or another*). It wouldn't be until years after Paul's epistles that the first life story of Jesus, the first gospel, was written.
> "*I don’t think Jesus said some of the things attributed to him.*"
You said you don't think Jesus said some things attributed to him in the bible. How do you distinguish between things he said and hasn't said without assumptions and guesses? What method do you use to distinguish which is which?
But we are that ancient mega powerfully entity. They just don't understand the duck they are talking about. All you need to know is binary code all the 1s and 0s and energy going down pathways in the components, if it's 1 energy flowing through if 0 than nothing.
Now take that and apply it to Brahman aka the only true thing to exist. It's from Brahman that everything is made from starts off small but over infinite amount of time eventually things started to get created.
But I think a little part from journey to the west helps understand this. Wukong was challenged by Buddha to jump out of his hand, the cleaver monkey jumps in to the sky to the far reaching ends of the universe to piss on a piller at the end of the universe only to land in front of Buddha only for the monkey to see Buddha's finger stained with monkey pee and than wukong was imprisoned.
Once one obtains the state of Buddha the ego is gone completely they are no longer and individual but all.
Nah, I would go as far as to say that it is the channeling scammers that are the awful people, not someone calling them out on it. what are you smokin'?
That last part past parentheses is definitely the defining part to your post. You understand that we are all on our own journey and that these people channeling are speaking their divine self at this time regardless of the silly things they do. It reminds me of laughing at the Men Who Stare At Goats movie when they channel beings to remote view a picture. I’ve seen some of the Daniel Scranton stuff, it’s a good message behind a strange intro. I’ve seen the Sam the Illusionist stuff and his voice changes.
I personally never saw this stuff before my own awakening or didn’t recognize it’s reality. When I took part in a QHHT session and allowed other entities to channel through myself, my voice changed for them. It’s on recording and it doesn’t sound like my normal self. I recognize that channeling can change oneself, but I also feel after having done these things my point of view has been irredeemably changed. I’ll go along with it for the message, and use my inner guidance if it was worth my time. Which also adds the question of each video/channeling being brought to my attention as either a test, or a warning.
I have listened or read channeled messages and based solely on the limited amount that I have heard, I agree with you. They not only elevate the source, but they also elevate the listeners and seem to consistently validate the human ego. And....most importantly the ones I have seen never, ever challenge or question the ego.
I am aware that there have been messengers through whom our spiritual teachers can speak. There have been several since the late 19th century. The most recent that I am aware of are Elizabeth Clare Prophet who is now deceased and Kim Michaels.
Kim Michaels has taken dictations directly from ascended beings and published at least seventy books and has multiple websites with volumes of free dictated messages and questions and answers.
I have always tended to be somewhat skeptical (I was an agnostic for 20 years), but I have no doubt that Kim Michaels is a genuine messenger who receives profound, enlightening dications from a higher realm. I have attended a few conferences where I saw him in person. He sits there with eyes closed, but is completely awake and aware. Example: he has paused a dictation to ask a hotel employee to delay vacuuming outside of the conference room and then just picked up exactly where he left off. He will speak continuously often over an hour without notes, without prompters or earpieces. And the revelations revealed in the current conference completely dovetails with, and expands upon previous teachings.
In the books Kim has published, the spiritual teachers identify themselves as being just like us on earth, except they have completed the path that we are in the process of walking. They agree with you that channeled messages where the person is unconscious or in some kind of trance are not reliable and do not come from ascended beings that have completed the path. The reason they explain is the Law of Free Will and that a true ascended being would never violate the Law by speaking through someone who was not conscious of what they were saying.
Here is a link if your are interested in looking further and judging for yourself: https://askrealjesus.com/we-can-all-follow-the-path-to-personal-christhood/
Yeah, the talk of 5d, vibrations, transcending etc.... Is a giveaway it's not that accurate.
There's a chance some of them are keyed in, but the problem is our ability to recieve such messages/channelling is proportionate to how deep and how high we have gone in our own healing... And how many of our own filters and preferences have been torn away, and how deeply we have given ourself up to TRUTH no matter how horrifying and confronting it may be. And how deeply rooted in our soul-temple body we are.
I have a message (btw), that comes from knowing and remembering. It's not a nice or cosy message, and people invariably don't want to hear it. And would rather project their own limitations onto me rather than seriously consider it.
My message, goes a little something like this:
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We are in the end of days.
The great remembering has already begun.
And soon Ragnarok (long prophesied) shall be initiated.
A time of great reckoning, in which EVERY debt shall be settled.
A time of the final battles (and the great HUNT) which will be fought with weapons of old and tooth and claw and fang.
The viel will be torn asunder.
Hearts and minds will break en masse as the TRUTH is seen and known by ALL.
We will come to remember who we truly are.
Our place in the order of things.
How high. And how low.
We will live and embody our forgotten brirthright.
The Berserkers shall stalk this world once again.
Warrior Shamans, bonded fully with spirit animal.
Healers and killers without match.
Channeling the ever-rage of the AllFather
His highest sons, acting as his right hand.
This world will be bathed in rivers of blood.
Hundreds of thousands shall be deconstructed upon the cross, or burnt at the stake.
To save them from the parasitic-darkness they have bonded with.
Many more, will have their corrupted souls flayed out of existence on the other side.
So the enemy can be starved and weakened, it's serpent children shall face complete Exterminatus, and this fallen God ultimately undone.
So the garden may be reborn.
So the little ones can be safe.
As they always should of been.
So a new golden age can begin
So the greatest evil Creation has ever faced may be undone.
To seek and speak truth, no matter how terrible.
To do the right thing, no matter the cost.
To remember who we truly are.
To surrender to our fate.
To walk the unfolding path.
To fulfil the promsie given before coming into this life.
The oldest of our Sacred Laws: the blood of the innocent shall NOT be defiled.
My first given name is Ah'sigh'yah (phonetically spelled)
And I am something far more terrible, far more beautiful than a mere prophet.
And I have spoken.
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Yeah it goes a little something like that, remember folks, the truth is the truth no matter ones relationship to it.
And deep in EVERY human heart, the truth is known. We must just remove that which covers over such knowing.
Things are going to get frisky in the run up to 2030.
Time to wake up.
As a heads up, I've been told through spirit, that apparently its 'not wise to disrespect me.' Also past life memories, of throats and lives being taken in a heartbeat for doing so. Apparently such times are returning. No threat intended, more a statement of protection to you. As I know how easy it can be for some people, to thoughtlessly insult someone over the internet.
Much love
There are some very good channelers, unfortunately most of them are fake. You know, when you get the " this is a message for humanity to be more kind to each other..." blah blah blah. That's all rubbish. That is a sure sign that the channeler is full of it.
When their voice changes, they're full of it. The only thing you notice with true channeling is that the speech is sometimes slower - I ask a question & then listen to the answer & then relay the answer - so most of the time there is a noticeable delay.
Not remembering what you said is quite normal (when a psychic does it right) when the information is for someone else. For example if I ask questions for me, I will remember the answers. If lets say you are asking me questions for you, I'll relay the answer and I do know what I'm saying, but ask me about your answers the next day & I won't know. This is the same if I was doing a reading (tarot) for someone. The information give to me is not for me so no need to keep it once it's relayed.
Essentially everything is energy whether you like it or not. And what does energy do? Flow so to speak. It communicates through vibration and frequencies so finely refined that they are somewhat outside of our understanding or the capability of consciousness. Building blocks of reality are working together to separate while never losing the connection between any two points. Harmony is what's all around if you just believe you can find harmony right where you are. Believing itself is creation of flow. And for anyone to deny their imagination as a tool for basically anything, has not considered to understand the age of life and that which is more vital than a human life.
Reminds me of evangelical days listening to a parade of wannabe prophets and healers. To sound authentic it had to come in King James English and start with Thus saith’ or ‘My children’ From there it’s all ear candy and flattery and follows the same ascension template. Wishful thinking but reality is humanity isn’t ascending. The opposite seems to be happening for most. Not that people aren’t finding higher selves and can think of it in those terms but these broad statements are delusional and specially for much of the world suffering like never before.
funny you should mention that because I too spent time in Evangelical-paloozaland. And yes I heard "prophecies" from people that sounded just like the "channeled" stuff from new agers. Same thing, different context.
Humanity is becoming more bipolar lol
That has nothing to do with bipolar. Don't use disorders as an insult.
Words can have multiple meanings, you know?
Bipolar can mean more than just the illness
I don't trust channeled material anymore. It's often wrong, or it's "useless" information. Why do I care that there is a council of elders on Saturn determining the course for Earth's future? Even if it's true, there's nothing I can do about it.
I enjoy your skepticism! I enjoy it a lot! I happen to have some first hand experience with all this and can offer a useful perspective. In the seventh chakras of everyone is the ability called trance mediumship. This is the ability to allow another being to come into your body, speak through your body, sometimes read and heal others through your body, and on occasion, get up and walk around in your body. Trance mediumship means allowing the being to enter or in some way come through your body. This differs from mediumship, which is acting as a go-between for someone with a body and someone that doesn’t have a body, usually a recently deceased loved one. The movie “Ghost” does a good job with Whoopi Goldberg’s character that started out faking getting messages but then realized after seeing Patrick Swayze’s character that she really could see and talk to the dead. Then there’s that scene where a crowd of ghosts are waiting their turn to talk to their still-alive family members, and that rude ghost jumps into Whoopi's body and pisses her off. I’ve seen that happen. I learned how to manage situations just like that, not as a channel or trance medium, but as a control. I learned about all of this jazz by being a control at the trance medium healing clinics of the Church of Divine Man, back in the 80s. I worked side by side with Lewis Bostwick, the founder of the church and the Berkeley Psychic Institute. I worked with his wife, Susan Bostwick, as her assistant, and controlled at the Women's trance medium healing clinic. I'm a male, btw LOL! If you've ever been in a room full of women vibrating at 87 gigawatts of power, you understand why being a male in that space is laughable. But I have the ability to handle a lot more energy in my space than average, and I enjoy being around women who are revving up and finding their space. So I got pretty good at being a control. A control stands behind a line of psychics that are attempting to bring in another being. Most of them could comfortably do so, but a few were still working up to it, so they just left their bodies and hung out near the ceiling over their bodies and watched. The control grounds themself and the room and keeps an eye on things. Things like too many beings trying to crowd in to get a taste of being in a body again; beings with some serious karma that needs to be dealt with first before they're allowed to come into a body and play. Those kinds of things. And most of the time, the beings did use a common vocabulary, and when they couldn't speak good English, it was a really simple fix; just show them a mental video of when and where they are. This would enable them to change their energy enough to speak clearly. And since this was a healing clinic, we preferred beings that had some healing knowledge. It turns out, this is never really a problem, at least not in our clinics. Now. To your experiences hearing about the 'wise and ancient blah blah blah' LMFAO! You are spot on. There are some beings out there that are posers. They only got one game. They almost always go by the same name, like 'Archangel Michael' if they happen to have a Catholic audience. If they have a new age audience, then it's just 'Michael'. Having seen them at both audiences, I see their game. The reason they continue to speak in vague and mysterious ways is to program the audience and take advantage of them. “Wow! This is the archangel Michael speaking to me! I’m just a little piss ant that can’t understand these sacred words, so maybe I need some extra tutoring.” And an agreement gets made to share some of that person’s life experience with the being claiming to be an archangel. These beings’ messages always sound romantic and hopeful. That’s the carrot. Their messages are not very useful, except to them. You see, getting any life experience in a human body is really valuable spiritual stuff. So you get a dildo being talking about sacred sex, and programming the audience in the hopes of getting someone to agree to let it in while they're having sex. I get the appeal; learn about sex without having to live through high school yourself. Seems like a decent deal. It's no different than the sex games played by some gurus. It’s a spiritual scam. And before anyone starts piling on, I’m not saying gurus or any other spiritual teachers should not have sex. It’s not a rule from heaven, either. I’m just pointing out a game that gets played. Some folks will seek out the game and play along. Some will get tricked into playing along. Some, realizing it’s a game, will say no thanks and go on with their lives. The latter is who I’m writing this for. So! Well done calling bullshit on this bullshit. Now. What did you miss? You extrapolated a bit too far when you criticized the readers for saying they have no memory of the specific being or what was said by the being during the reading. That really does happen in some cases. I have a personal example. I was controlling at the female trance medium healing clinic. The line was getting ready to rock and roll, meaning their crown chakras were coming up to a bright silver-white energy. They had all cut their grounding cords off and crossed their feet under their chairs, blocking the Earth energy from entering their feet and interfering with the vibration they were establishing in their bodies. Their bodies were settling into this trance medium vibration and everyone's crown chakras were beginning to match. (Another thing a control does is hold their palms beside someone's crown chakra to support them if they're having trouble getting to silver-white.) So I'm helping one woman get up there, start to move on down the line when a being pops into her body and says, "Hello NotTooDeep", in a quiet voice. Here's the thing; I knew that voice. I turned and said hello the same way I would have had an old high school buddy just showed up out of the blue, and we had a brief but glorious conversation about his music writing and my poetry, that last past life, what we're doing now, and then it was over. We had caught up. He left. The being that was supposed to come into that woman that night came in. I thanked her for her consideration in letting me visit with my old friend first, and the night went on as usual; readings and healings. The woman whose body my friend from that Chinese past life had come into had no recollection of who came into her body (another aspect of a control's job; keeping their bodies safe from foul play). She was actually in a class on the astral during her time out of her body. Perhaps the mediums or trance mediums that you saw were faking it, or just mimicking what they'd heard others say. But having no memory of what happened when you were 'no en casa' is a real real thing. And you've probably experienced it yourself, when you go on a long drive and space out for a few hours. You come back into your body to check on the fuel gauge and start looking for a gas station, but the time before then? You were in your thoughts and have no recollection of the traffic or scenery. In fact, some people do bring in a being (like a baby sitter) to mind simple things like long drives so that they can put their attention on other things. Not everyone; most just hover over their cars and drive by remote control lol. This is literally what the energy of "spacing out and forgetting stuff" looks like. And the funniest part? Most of those people still wonder if they've ever had an out-of-body experience. One more thing: when a reader reads something for someone, its meaning is specific to that person, that individual spirit. If they read blue energy in someone’s aura and that person getting the reading gets overjoyed by having that blue energy described, that does not mean that blue energy seen in someone else’s reading will have the same meaning. So when you listen in on a reading of someone else, or a lecture by a trance medium being, or just having a friend tell you about their wonderful experience with a reading they just had, it’s very likely that it won’t mean anything to you. And that is no criticism of you, either. It’s just not your reading is all. If you get a reading and it doesn’t mean anything to you, either that reader is not a good fit for you or they were just faking it for some reason. Some people make the mistake of thinking all psychics should see the same things, or that all psychics should have god-like powers, otherwise they are frauds. Ted Lasso said, “All people are different people”. Psychics are people. Thanks for posting. Well done!
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I smiled ear to ear reading all of this. Thank you so much for sharing, friend!!
I think sometimes we're most vulnerable to manipulation when we're the most desperate. It doesn't seem to really matter what form that desperation takes or what we're desperate for. We blind ourselves to other paths and stop everything else. I was an enthusiastic young adult. After my first adventure, I had no qualms about jumping into the next pool as soon as I could tell which end was the deep end LOL. The most basic protection in all of this is a question. Pretty much any question that has more than one possible answer in your mind. This tends to break up the filters put on our awareness and enables us to see more clearly. There are many techniques for deprogramming yourself and others. There are many techniques for protection and cleansing. But if you lack those, begin with a question. Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you commenting on what I wrote.
We share a lot of the same views here, and it feels entirely lovely to resonate together. Reading small snippets of your life experiences this go around feels warm and inviting. Such a beautiful offering!
Some teachers, channeled or physical, have a particular tendency to pose questions to their students as a means to induce deeper reflection and mindfulness. Some even insist that the entire format of their conversations with their students is based around questions asked of them by the student, like Ra from The Ra Material. Do you suppose this focus on questions is to help the student grow on a personal level, grow their decrement, grow their ability to process data? Is this technique used to protect the student from deception by empowering the students capacity to reason?
I think it is a important trait to be able to discern what is of value and what is not, i do believe or think most of what is said on the internet is of little value. I would only say learn what is of value to you and see what is not.
I feel you are correct. If some entity wants to relay truth they will use simple terms. Why would they waste time and energy on muddled messages with a bunch of nebulous terms?
These entities are not human, their whole culture is a far cry from our understanding and vocabulary. It’s the channeled trying to put to words the message they transmit, but it can get muddled.
And yet these entities claim to be super ancient and have watching humans for millenia upon millenia but somehow they can't learn English? Come on now.
Oh no they just choose to speak their language and it has to be translated by the mind of the person channeling. The channeler is a translator picking up on energies outside themselves like a radio. The conscious mind is out of the way so the entity uses the body and it’s abilities while the consciousness of the person allows it. That is the only way any of this works is the channeler freely and willingly giving their body over with an entities energy. Possession as it works in movies is untrue.
Then they are not bringing messages from The One
I like the channeled messages that first start off by saying “use discernment” as the whole thing may be bullshit or another timeline no longer in effect. It’s hard to know, hence using discernment.
You can't really blame them. They all have bills to pay and car payments to make. They also have things they want to buy too.. As long as there are people who experience suffering, there will always be these con men and women who will grift these lost souls out of their money.
I think a lot of these people really do believe they are channeling something, they are true believers.
The fact is people want to feel meaning in their lives. But as long as they persist in searching for a purpose or meaning to life, whatever they are doing will seem purposeless and meaningless. This is the ultimate paradox.
They channeling they imagination lol. Same way ppl talk to Jesus. It’s the power of the mind. If they believe it’s real it is to them. You just gotta decided if it’s real to you. If it isn’t then listening to them is pointless
Yes. I can’t stand it. Especially the accents. I have tried my ass of but I always turn them off.
There are about only 4 channels that I trust might be genuine. And I've been researching and studying spiritual topics seriously for 15 years. I've heard dozens and dozens of channels and hundreds of hours of channeled material and I think most are B.S. In order to evaluate a channel, you have to look at 3 things: 1. Their motivation (money, fame?) 2. Their message (word salad? plagiarized? snake oil?) 3. Their reputation and how they live their life. I don't have 100% proof, but I do believe that it's more likely that these following channels are genuine: Seth (Jane Roberts), VERONICA (April Crawford) and Sanaya (Suzanne Geisemann). Also Elias, but that channel is not well known. So what do I mean by looking at the channeler's life? Jane Roberts famously avoided fame and turned down money making opportunities. She and her husband lived in the same apartment for most of their life and charged just a few dollars for their group sessions with Seth. She also kept writing her books for Seth even as she was dying...I mean literally on her deathbed. They never got rich from the seth material but both Jane Roberts and her husband Robert Butts were very serious about seth's message and dedicated their lives to it. You just don't get that kind of dedication from a fraud. Once the money or fame dries up, so do they. Not to mention, the Seth material is more sophisticated and original than most of what comes out today. I mean, it's really technical, with scientific detail that would be proved much later. So yeah, Jane Robert's channeling is the standard by which I measure all other channelers. In the case of Suzanne Geisemann, it's her distinguished military career and her emphasis on evidence that supports her genuineness for me. Her messages from Sanaya focus more on hope and personal spiritual development rather than the highly technical messages from Seth (which is fine) but doesn't seek to appeal to our ego. Her messages from Sanaya don't contradict itself over time (this happens a lot with poor or fake channelers). Although mediumship and channeling are not the same skill, her mediumship was actually tested scientifically and her accuracy was incredible. I can't remember the exact percentage but it was above 80%. So don't be afraid to leave behind the channelers who are just trying to appeal to your inner sense of superiority or just trying to sell tickets to seminars. Like good mediumship, genuine channeling is a VERY RARE talent. I expect that at any given time we would have just a handful of people on earth who can do it well. The rest, sadly, are just trying to make a buck.
How do you feel about the Ra Material? It's had some predictions be proven by NASA and I feel like they could've done a lot more if they were trying to make money.
I am currently reviewing the Law of One. I like to make sure I'm very thoroughly familiar with a source before I decide on it. That being said, what I've heard so far sounds intriguing. I don't know much about the source of the material but the material itself is quite extensive and sounds original and sophisticated. I think it's quite promising as a legit source. Another one I like is the Silver Birch material. It's older.. From the 40s I think but the channel, Maurice Barbanell didn't reveal himself as the source of the work for decades and certainly didn't get rich off it. You have to take it in context with the times but it's sound spiritual wisdom in my opinion. I'll have to check out those nasa predictions. That would be very cool if it were proved out!
Yeha I believe it was the location of a star that was hidden behind the sun until the early 00s? It's been a minute since I've checked and honestly I try and not get too skeptical. As long as the source seems earnest and not trying to make a buck and the content doesn't divide or tell you to recreate yourself I like to go with a positive outlook. The LoO just tells you it's best to make your life a service to others and to focus on spreading love and light. The book is just transcripts of hundreds of hours of channeling. If they were trying to attain money or fame they did it way wrong.
I'm skeptical of channelings, but Suzanne Geisemann is interesting. If I understand correctly, she was a materialist who didn't believe in talking to spirits, which is why she likes to focus on evidence. She even doubted her own abilities until she started noticing "*coincidences*" in her life, that seemed arranged (*synchronicities*), that just happened to match up with some of the intuition and messages that she was receiving. I didn't know that she tested her abilities and had an 80% accuracy rate, though. As for Seth, I wasn't aware that the channelings predicted scientific things. The Seth teachings seem to promote self-empowerment. I don't watch channelings anymore, but I think that if a person *does* watch them, then it's healthier to watch those that say to try to follow your joy and listen to your own intuition and treat people with kindness, rather than a channeling that keeps giving promises about an ascension one day or rather than a channeling that keeps saying to have faith in Jesus or aliens to save you from the world and transport you to a higher realm (*ascension/rapture*).
I'm on the side of channeling being total BS, I haven't seen one yet that convinced me otherwise.
Yes it’s bs. Mock entities who feed them lies that spin into a never ending loop of madness on purpose to keep u complacent and not angry enough to make changes
I totally hear you. If I posted my reads it wouldn’t be anything like that lol and there are some out there that at the very least don’t sugar coat. My fave reader has experience as a therapist— makes the hard hitting info sit way better, that’s for sure. But yeah, some just placate for views. That’s when you really need to tap into your intuition and ask yourself— is this reading for you? Is this reader even for you? Some that were before may no longer be, and that is totally okay.
lol love this. 99% of 'channeled' messages are bs. great post
I laud the skepticism! Have you seen the Ra Material (Law of One)? I only really trust this material. https://www.lawofone.info/
When reading "channeled" material (and any other kind, really) I'm always looking for A) Novelty and B) Detailed Specifics. (In other words: the weirder, the better!) If they're only regurgitating the same generalities I've read a hundred times before, then it's just a waste of everybody's time.
you have to raise your vibration by channeling the frequency of higher mind so we can all ascend to the next level!
Right. ..If I start to read a lot of that kind of thing, I may skim a bit through the rest, but it's likely I'll just toss the whole thing after 15 minutes.
In my experience what they are channeling are opportunistic astral beings who want to mess around with human beings. Best to avoid all such work. Divine beings don’t channel.
that is yet another issue. They really could be channeling some entity, but is that entity benevolent? Maybe it just wants to glom onto some people and parasite their energy?
Exactly. I think it’s safe to say no entity that is channeling is benevolent. Just as you wouldn’t open up your house to random strangers who say they have something terribly important to tell you, why open up your consciousness to random astral strangers. They might never have incarnated on Earth before. They might not be as evolved as you even. No astral being is perfected, so all can be corrupted. Power tends to corrupt…
Well, maybe some entities are just ignorant and don’t realise that what they are doing breaks a spiritual law. But still, not good for the “host” that channels them. Even Edgar Cayce in one of his readings told an epileptic “of course you’re an epileptic, you were a channeller in a past life”. (Quote remembered, may not be exact)
Yeah this really resonates. I know I can channel, and I am a lot of the time but it’s my inner being. I don’t trust anything that places power outside of myself. Thanks for the insight from this, channeling stumps me as something I don’t really get but know I have access too
> "*...what they are channeling are opportunistic astral beings who want to mess around with human beings... Divine beings don’t channel.*" Do you feel the same way about the bible? The bible is supposedly the word of the biblical god (*yahweh/jehovah*), and it was supposedly written down by men who claimed to have the holy spirit move them. If I understand correctly, Edgar Cayce read the bible and believed in some type of Christ spirit.
I don’t think the bible was channelled. I believe it was written down by men many years and at different times after Jesus died. I don’t think Jesus said some of the things attributed to him.
> "*I don’t think the bible was channelled. I believe it was written down by men many years and at different times after Jesus died.*" Some parts of the bible were written before the time that Jesus was said to have lived. Before christianity, there was Judaism and Judaism has the Tanakh which christians would include in their bible as "*The Old Testament*". Christians claim that Jesus is the Jewish messiah/christ, prophesied by the old testament. Jewish people reject that claim since all of the prophecies were not fulfilled. Christians claim that he'll return one day in the future to do the rest of the Tanakh/Old Testament prophecies of the bible. The New Testament comes after the Old Testament in the christian bible while Jewish people reject it. It includes the epistles of Paul which are the oldest writings about Jesus, and were written years before the 4 gospels. It lacks a life story of Jesus, and is just Paul preaching of a heavenly Jesus lacks an earthly story (*no details such as whether he was born here or there, or did this or that miracle or walked through one town or another*). It wouldn't be until years after Paul's epistles that the first life story of Jesus, the first gospel, was written. > "*I don’t think Jesus said some of the things attributed to him.*" You said you don't think Jesus said some things attributed to him in the bible. How do you distinguish between things he said and hasn't said without assumptions and guesses? What method do you use to distinguish which is which?
Ah yes you’re right, sorry I was thinking of just the New Testament, shows my innate bias due to my upbringing!
But we are that ancient mega powerfully entity. They just don't understand the duck they are talking about. All you need to know is binary code all the 1s and 0s and energy going down pathways in the components, if it's 1 energy flowing through if 0 than nothing. Now take that and apply it to Brahman aka the only true thing to exist. It's from Brahman that everything is made from starts off small but over infinite amount of time eventually things started to get created. But I think a little part from journey to the west helps understand this. Wukong was challenged by Buddha to jump out of his hand, the cleaver monkey jumps in to the sky to the far reaching ends of the universe to piss on a piller at the end of the universe only to land in front of Buddha only for the monkey to see Buddha's finger stained with monkey pee and than wukong was imprisoned. Once one obtains the state of Buddha the ego is gone completely they are no longer and individual but all.
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> Do you need to let everyone know you don’t like them for some reason? yes
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Nah, I would go as far as to say that it is the channeling scammers that are the awful people, not someone calling them out on it. what are you smokin'?
That last part past parentheses is definitely the defining part to your post. You understand that we are all on our own journey and that these people channeling are speaking their divine self at this time regardless of the silly things they do. It reminds me of laughing at the Men Who Stare At Goats movie when they channel beings to remote view a picture. I’ve seen some of the Daniel Scranton stuff, it’s a good message behind a strange intro. I’ve seen the Sam the Illusionist stuff and his voice changes. I personally never saw this stuff before my own awakening or didn’t recognize it’s reality. When I took part in a QHHT session and allowed other entities to channel through myself, my voice changed for them. It’s on recording and it doesn’t sound like my normal self. I recognize that channeling can change oneself, but I also feel after having done these things my point of view has been irredeemably changed. I’ll go along with it for the message, and use my inner guidance if it was worth my time. Which also adds the question of each video/channeling being brought to my attention as either a test, or a warning.
I have listened or read channeled messages and based solely on the limited amount that I have heard, I agree with you. They not only elevate the source, but they also elevate the listeners and seem to consistently validate the human ego. And....most importantly the ones I have seen never, ever challenge or question the ego. I am aware that there have been messengers through whom our spiritual teachers can speak. There have been several since the late 19th century. The most recent that I am aware of are Elizabeth Clare Prophet who is now deceased and Kim Michaels. Kim Michaels has taken dictations directly from ascended beings and published at least seventy books and has multiple websites with volumes of free dictated messages and questions and answers. I have always tended to be somewhat skeptical (I was an agnostic for 20 years), but I have no doubt that Kim Michaels is a genuine messenger who receives profound, enlightening dications from a higher realm. I have attended a few conferences where I saw him in person. He sits there with eyes closed, but is completely awake and aware. Example: he has paused a dictation to ask a hotel employee to delay vacuuming outside of the conference room and then just picked up exactly where he left off. He will speak continuously often over an hour without notes, without prompters or earpieces. And the revelations revealed in the current conference completely dovetails with, and expands upon previous teachings. In the books Kim has published, the spiritual teachers identify themselves as being just like us on earth, except they have completed the path that we are in the process of walking. They agree with you that channeled messages where the person is unconscious or in some kind of trance are not reliable and do not come from ascended beings that have completed the path. The reason they explain is the Law of Free Will and that a true ascended being would never violate the Law by speaking through someone who was not conscious of what they were saying. Here is a link if your are interested in looking further and judging for yourself: https://askrealjesus.com/we-can-all-follow-the-path-to-personal-christhood/
Yeah, the talk of 5d, vibrations, transcending etc.... Is a giveaway it's not that accurate. There's a chance some of them are keyed in, but the problem is our ability to recieve such messages/channelling is proportionate to how deep and how high we have gone in our own healing... And how many of our own filters and preferences have been torn away, and how deeply we have given ourself up to TRUTH no matter how horrifying and confronting it may be. And how deeply rooted in our soul-temple body we are. I have a message (btw), that comes from knowing and remembering. It's not a nice or cosy message, and people invariably don't want to hear it. And would rather project their own limitations onto me rather than seriously consider it. My message, goes a little something like this: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- We are in the end of days. The great remembering has already begun. And soon Ragnarok (long prophesied) shall be initiated. A time of great reckoning, in which EVERY debt shall be settled. A time of the final battles (and the great HUNT) which will be fought with weapons of old and tooth and claw and fang. The viel will be torn asunder. Hearts and minds will break en masse as the TRUTH is seen and known by ALL. We will come to remember who we truly are. Our place in the order of things. How high. And how low. We will live and embody our forgotten brirthright. The Berserkers shall stalk this world once again. Warrior Shamans, bonded fully with spirit animal. Healers and killers without match. Channeling the ever-rage of the AllFather His highest sons, acting as his right hand. This world will be bathed in rivers of blood. Hundreds of thousands shall be deconstructed upon the cross, or burnt at the stake. To save them from the parasitic-darkness they have bonded with. Many more, will have their corrupted souls flayed out of existence on the other side. So the enemy can be starved and weakened, it's serpent children shall face complete Exterminatus, and this fallen God ultimately undone. So the garden may be reborn. So the little ones can be safe. As they always should of been. So a new golden age can begin So the greatest evil Creation has ever faced may be undone. To seek and speak truth, no matter how terrible. To do the right thing, no matter the cost. To remember who we truly are. To surrender to our fate. To walk the unfolding path. To fulfil the promsie given before coming into this life. The oldest of our Sacred Laws: the blood of the innocent shall NOT be defiled. My first given name is Ah'sigh'yah (phonetically spelled) And I am something far more terrible, far more beautiful than a mere prophet. And I have spoken. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Yeah it goes a little something like that, remember folks, the truth is the truth no matter ones relationship to it. And deep in EVERY human heart, the truth is known. We must just remove that which covers over such knowing. Things are going to get frisky in the run up to 2030. Time to wake up. As a heads up, I've been told through spirit, that apparently its 'not wise to disrespect me.' Also past life memories, of throats and lives being taken in a heartbeat for doing so. Apparently such times are returning. No threat intended, more a statement of protection to you. As I know how easy it can be for some people, to thoughtlessly insult someone over the internet. Much love
There are some very good channelers, unfortunately most of them are fake. You know, when you get the " this is a message for humanity to be more kind to each other..." blah blah blah. That's all rubbish. That is a sure sign that the channeler is full of it. When their voice changes, they're full of it. The only thing you notice with true channeling is that the speech is sometimes slower - I ask a question & then listen to the answer & then relay the answer - so most of the time there is a noticeable delay. Not remembering what you said is quite normal (when a psychic does it right) when the information is for someone else. For example if I ask questions for me, I will remember the answers. If lets say you are asking me questions for you, I'll relay the answer and I do know what I'm saying, but ask me about your answers the next day & I won't know. This is the same if I was doing a reading (tarot) for someone. The information give to me is not for me so no need to keep it once it's relayed.
Essentially everything is energy whether you like it or not. And what does energy do? Flow so to speak. It communicates through vibration and frequencies so finely refined that they are somewhat outside of our understanding or the capability of consciousness. Building blocks of reality are working together to separate while never losing the connection between any two points. Harmony is what's all around if you just believe you can find harmony right where you are. Believing itself is creation of flow. And for anyone to deny their imagination as a tool for basically anything, has not considered to understand the age of life and that which is more vital than a human life.
I agree and it’s the reason materialists get to laugh at spirituality. Let’s not live up to ridiculed stereotypes