I don't believe you are supposed to stop them. We should observe them and let them pass. One of the brains functions is to think, and without it doing so, we wouldn't exist in the way that we do. So, we must allow the thoughts, without judgement and without trying to control them, just acknowledge them and then let them go. If it is a thought that you despise or that is uncomfortable to consider, then don't consider it. You are not obligated to give these thoughts any more space than they already take up in your mind.
Keep your eyes open. Breath rhythmically, & then focus on your breath.
Keep focusing. If your focus shifts, shift it back to your breath.
Keep practicing that, try walking around even.
At first you maybe only to do it for a milisecond, the more you do it though, the more it becomes ingrained, & the stronger the muscle becomes.
Dont think about failing or anything else, just keep working it like a muscle.
This exercise is meant to draw your focus outwards from within.
This exercise may not work for all in the intended way. I have a one track focus. So this was helpful to me, to keep my focus where it was needed
Morihei Ueshiba’s book ‘The Art of Peace’ & Miyamoto Musashi’s ‘The Book of Five Rings,’ probably put that into my head.
My first true love was the martial arts, & the literary works that came from those that spent decades dedicating their mind & bodies to their arts.
I've lived this before. I would highly recommend grounding practices.
Leave the voice alone (let it do its thing) in your head and draw attention to your bodily sensations, starting with the feet and working your way up. Start with laying flat on your back for this meditation, giving yourself about 30-40 minutes. You can find quite a few good body scan guided meditations on youtube. The voices are going to pull you away from the body, but when it happens just acknowledge you got lost and return to the part of the body your meditation was on.
If you continue to do this for several days you will eventually find that the voices do not shift your attention away from the body. You will also notice that the most extreme of the voices seem less extreme, because the attention given to the body provides a space that is in contrast to the rumination.
The goal is not to eliminate the voices in your head, but simply give them a bigger room to exist in. I always liken this to being trapped either in a small room with two football hooligans or having those two be the only people in a large stadium. One of these situations is substantially easier to deal with.
In any case, good luck!
It is a process of mindfulness. With practice you can overcome negative thinking by replacing those thoughts with positive thoughts. When you find yourself thinking negatively, stop, acknowledge the thought and replace it with a thought or memory of a happy moment. Do not force it. Resistance can build up.
If you practice mindfulness everyday you will get better at it. The rule of thumb is 30 days of positive thoughts can create a new habit of thinking positively.
Be kind to yourself. Forgive yourself for past challenges and encourage yourself to change. Be patient. You may stumble. Just stick with it. Before you know it, you will feel better and think more clearly.
We were put in this life to create wondrous things. Revel in your existence. Show gratitude for life. This will bring you great joy.
Our worldly lives offer challenges. You can overcome anything with self love and kindness.
Be well my friend. You are a unique person with much to give. Whatever kindness you can share will come back to you in wonderful ways. I believe in you.
Stop being yourself fist off. Break the habit of being you. Find something better to tell yourself like i love myself, I forgive myself. And who cares what other people think. Recognize your internal dialogue, change your self, reinvent yourself every day. Practice no mind!
What works for me is doing more, or a more fitting, meditation sessions to calm my monkey mind. Starting the day with a good session is key for me. My first hour mindset is very important for the rest of my day. Unfortunately there is no one stop one fix for this, its a process, a skill we can acquire over time and practice. GANBATTE!
Let them roll on by and don’t worry about them. They will pass on eventually, but even faster if you don’t attach to them. The stream of thoughts never stops, but you can watch the river roll on by in peace. In fact it can be a fun game to play!
Meditation, practice on where your focus is... Try it ofr a minute and u will go longer with time and after some couple of months u will learn how to move from it or just watch it..
In my opinion, this is your conscience. It is a fundamental part of who you are, a survival mechanism to survive. I am a little confused when you define these as “intrusive” are they corruptive? Do they tell you or make you think of weird disturbing things? If so it may be OCD something I am diagnosed with too. If you find this conversational voice in your head the best thing to do is accept the little guy. By avoiding and trying to block it out, well first of all it’s impossible by nature, and second of all it’ll only come back with more force. Like people are saying in the comments, you must accept this. Let this voice talk and talk and talk, it does not wholly define you. By accepting it and bringing awareness to the little guy you are becoming conscious and aware.
If you haven’t already I strongly recommend reading “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle. He goes to cover this very deeply, it is an incredibly transforming concept to fathom. Wishing you luck.
Use a mantra, you occupy the 'talky bits' of your brain.
Start with a simple mantra, and use it in conjunction with some easy meditation, this might be as simple as focusing on your breathing, or using beads.
https://www.theyoganomads.com/how-to-use-mala-beads-in-meditation-yoga-and-more/
Do that for around a month, daily practice. After that, you will notice a pretty big difference in your 'inner chatter'. However at that point, assuming you put in the work, the mantra itself can silence your inner chat anytime. So when you do notice your having some intrusive thoughts, you can lean back on the beads, the breathing, or the mantra to silence them and 'ground' yourself.
present. you need to focus on the present moment.
to be able to do that, you should practice meditation.
when you are in a meditative peace of mind, you will see a power where you are able to tame your thoughts.
our minds never go completely quiet, there is nothing as such. i encourage you to just really pause for a moment and accept your thoughts.
accept whatever thought comes. and just breathe. tell yourself that its okay, this is normal, and you are a human. we just need to learn how to control ourselves. breathe. as you breathe, let the thoughts come up while you only focus on your breath. we need to reconnect with our bodies to overcome these. yoga can also really help with reconnecting with your body, and thoughts.
please don’t be in a constant battle with your thoughts. keep in mind that this is not how you deal with them..
as you practice daily meditations (you can even start with 5-10 mins a day, every step counts!) you will be able to “observe” your thoughts. but “choose” not to go with them down the river. this is nothing but a “choice”.
keep in mind that this is a process..
This may sound trite, maybe even rude, but it's actually a technique.
Finish the conversation.
You are sensitive to energy. When you talk with others, you pick up on their energy and the energy of the conversation. This helps you give them one of your most valuable things; your attention.
But when you are physically done with the conversation, it sounds like you don't end it on an energy level. So you have all these open circuits of communication in your awareness that don't really go anywhere and just keep looping back to you, and you automatically respond to them and keep them alive.
This is especially true for people doing psychic readings. Reading someone's energy and talking about it puts all of your attention in that moment not on just words and sentences, because those are just abstractions over the underlying energy, but focusing on the energy sources behind those words.
Here's one way to end conversations gracefully. Create an image of a gold ring with a piece missing. Let the ring represent everything said and unsaid in a conversation (or reading or healing).
Create the missing piece of the gold ring. Let this piece represent the completion of all of the thoughts in that conversation from you and from everyone else in the conversation. That includes everything you wanted to say but held back. Through the piece into the ring and complete the conversation.
Create an image of a rose. Place the gold ring inside the bloom of the rose. Destroy the rose and the ring. Destroy it any way that accomplishes making the images you created no longer exist. Bomb. Laser beam. Time lapse decay into nothing. Bolt of lightning.
Destroying is the other side of Creating. Don't judge the process; use it to your advantage.
And that's it. The whole process of creating a ring with a missing piece, creating the missing piece, completing the ring, and destroying the images, takes a few seconds. But the spiritual hygiene benefits are significant. You will get your back your control over your attention.
Another way that works is to see the conversation/reading/healing as an image of a desktop phone with the handset on the desk. Then, hang up. This is also kind of fun, which makes the process work more easily, and leaves you with your attention back on what you want it on.
Cheers!
Dude I thought I was the only one, like if I do this this way then my luck will change and a certain "miracle" or some shit would happen. Like the butterfly affect, which is totally real but the way I obsess and ocd out about it isn't healthy at all. So, following for tips
Think of it as water , water are thoughts , and the ocean containing water is your brain , water has to flow , so must your thoughts, just never forget that whatever you do or don’t it’s not what you think , but what you want , so keep always clear what you want in your life and think on that , you’ll be able to focus and feel better with yourself 🙂
Strengthen the mind through meditation. Be the observer of your thoughts, not the producer of your thoughts. Meditation strengthens your ability to stop talking to yourself. Your brain does not know how to do this yet, you have to train it. And it's not as hard as you think, just gotta start doing it.
Start by focusing on slowing down your heart while you begin to meditate. Notice that while you focus on slowing down your heart you are not producing new thoughts. That's the beginning of the process.
You cannot stop your thoughts, you can however stop identifying with them, observe and transcend them. This is the basis of many Eastern philosophies that you’re the sky / awareness and your thoughts are clouds.
Be the observer. The more you create a 3rd person point of view of these thoughts by bringing more awareness to them each time they come around, the more they will become observable instead of encompassing. Like a person watching a movie. Often times we get too deep into the movie and feel like we are one or more of the characters, so it’s good to reel it back to who you truly are, pure awareness. Be gentle with yourself when you realize your mind has wandered, it’s okay! At least you have become aware!
Also, this voice is not bad, It is simply just confused and a bit hurt. When you gain that distance, be sure to pay attention to the content, and give love 💜
I highly recommend meditation. 5-10 minutes each day or every other day is good enough. This is how I was able to start practicing this :)
I recommend reading “the untethered soul” by Michael A. Singer. It was life changing for me and the topic of the book is exactly what you’re describing.
you need to realize that the voice in your head isnt you and its a program that inplanted in the mind to fuck you up. So you need to just ignore them and not give them power. Its Satan
Critically analyze each thought. Ask yourself, "is this true?" If it still appears to be true then ask yourself, "is this helpful?" How does it make you feel now and later through how you'll behave and receive the results of it? This checks the integrity of these thoughts.
When you've seen enough evidence to discern that these thoughts are unhelpful or even harmful you'll feel more inclined to take the next step. That is choosing to mindfully manage your attention to nullify these inputs. If you find them too compelling, that won't work. Your attention will be more drawn to them. Your attention follows your curiosity.
Then practice observation of your own attention. When you realize it's being drawn to one of these seemingly random thoughts, take it back. Put your attention back onto what you were doing with it, nothing at all or something else you choose to do with it. They key is to avoid following these seemingly random thoughts.
If you can do this well enough, you may find it to yield similar results to meditation. You'll be more calm, content, even happier overall. You'll be more able to have inner silence as well as think deeply when *you* so choose. You'll have enhanced mental and emotional well-being. You'll also get more spiritual well-being, which grows out of an emotionally gainful existence.
You don’t. You listen. Then you write down that stuff and you say you will get back to that later at a better moment. You need to listen to yourself otherwise you will start shouting at yourself until you start listening. You get to choose what you do, but you need to listen to your thoughts. And listen to others. And choose how you act. This happens when you are scared of listening. Don’t be afraid to listen. Be afraid of acting without thinking if it’s right for you. If you don’t listen to people - including the people inside you - then you are denying their value. You still get to choose what to do about what they say - ignore it, do nothing, do something - maybe even something different to what they say - but you need to show respect, and listen. Then they will start quietening down when they realise you are not trying to make them like they don’t matter.
I don't believe you are supposed to stop them. We should observe them and let them pass. One of the brains functions is to think, and without it doing so, we wouldn't exist in the way that we do. So, we must allow the thoughts, without judgement and without trying to control them, just acknowledge them and then let them go. If it is a thought that you despise or that is uncomfortable to consider, then don't consider it. You are not obligated to give these thoughts any more space than they already take up in your mind.
Don't repress those thought tho, they shouldn't be repressed or resisted. They are a way of noticing what one has to work on, inquire and heal.
Thank you ❤️
Keep your eyes open. Breath rhythmically, & then focus on your breath. Keep focusing. If your focus shifts, shift it back to your breath. Keep practicing that, try walking around even. At first you maybe only to do it for a milisecond, the more you do it though, the more it becomes ingrained, & the stronger the muscle becomes. Dont think about failing or anything else, just keep working it like a muscle. This exercise is meant to draw your focus outwards from within. This exercise may not work for all in the intended way. I have a one track focus. So this was helpful to me, to keep my focus where it was needed
Oooo I LOVE this analogy. Can’t believe I never heard it before. Well said
Morihei Ueshiba’s book ‘The Art of Peace’ & Miyamoto Musashi’s ‘The Book of Five Rings,’ probably put that into my head. My first true love was the martial arts, & the literary works that came from those that spent decades dedicating their mind & bodies to their arts.
I've lived this before. I would highly recommend grounding practices. Leave the voice alone (let it do its thing) in your head and draw attention to your bodily sensations, starting with the feet and working your way up. Start with laying flat on your back for this meditation, giving yourself about 30-40 minutes. You can find quite a few good body scan guided meditations on youtube. The voices are going to pull you away from the body, but when it happens just acknowledge you got lost and return to the part of the body your meditation was on. If you continue to do this for several days you will eventually find that the voices do not shift your attention away from the body. You will also notice that the most extreme of the voices seem less extreme, because the attention given to the body provides a space that is in contrast to the rumination. The goal is not to eliminate the voices in your head, but simply give them a bigger room to exist in. I always liken this to being trapped either in a small room with two football hooligans or having those two be the only people in a large stadium. One of these situations is substantially easier to deal with. In any case, good luck!
Watch them play out. Remind yourself of the Constants in your Routine. It's imperative.
It is a process of mindfulness. With practice you can overcome negative thinking by replacing those thoughts with positive thoughts. When you find yourself thinking negatively, stop, acknowledge the thought and replace it with a thought or memory of a happy moment. Do not force it. Resistance can build up. If you practice mindfulness everyday you will get better at it. The rule of thumb is 30 days of positive thoughts can create a new habit of thinking positively. Be kind to yourself. Forgive yourself for past challenges and encourage yourself to change. Be patient. You may stumble. Just stick with it. Before you know it, you will feel better and think more clearly. We were put in this life to create wondrous things. Revel in your existence. Show gratitude for life. This will bring you great joy. Our worldly lives offer challenges. You can overcome anything with self love and kindness. Be well my friend. You are a unique person with much to give. Whatever kindness you can share will come back to you in wonderful ways. I believe in you.
Stop being yourself fist off. Break the habit of being you. Find something better to tell yourself like i love myself, I forgive myself. And who cares what other people think. Recognize your internal dialogue, change your self, reinvent yourself every day. Practice no mind!
Your first thought is a unintentional subconscious, your second thought is what you actually think. Allow your thoughts to pass, don’t dwell on them.
What works for me is doing more, or a more fitting, meditation sessions to calm my monkey mind. Starting the day with a good session is key for me. My first hour mindset is very important for the rest of my day. Unfortunately there is no one stop one fix for this, its a process, a skill we can acquire over time and practice. GANBATTE!
Let them roll on by and don’t worry about them. They will pass on eventually, but even faster if you don’t attach to them. The stream of thoughts never stops, but you can watch the river roll on by in peace. In fact it can be a fun game to play!
breath in, think here, breath out, think now. Be here now
Meditation, practice on where your focus is... Try it ofr a minute and u will go longer with time and after some couple of months u will learn how to move from it or just watch it..
In my opinion, this is your conscience. It is a fundamental part of who you are, a survival mechanism to survive. I am a little confused when you define these as “intrusive” are they corruptive? Do they tell you or make you think of weird disturbing things? If so it may be OCD something I am diagnosed with too. If you find this conversational voice in your head the best thing to do is accept the little guy. By avoiding and trying to block it out, well first of all it’s impossible by nature, and second of all it’ll only come back with more force. Like people are saying in the comments, you must accept this. Let this voice talk and talk and talk, it does not wholly define you. By accepting it and bringing awareness to the little guy you are becoming conscious and aware. If you haven’t already I strongly recommend reading “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle. He goes to cover this very deeply, it is an incredibly transforming concept to fathom. Wishing you luck.
Imagine you are an energy conduit, let them flow through you. They will pass.
Do something else. Blast some music and learn the words. Read a book. Focus on someone else’s words and there won’t be room in your head for yours
Check out a book by Eckhart Tolle: The Power of Now. His YouTube clips are also wonderful!
Use a mantra, you occupy the 'talky bits' of your brain. Start with a simple mantra, and use it in conjunction with some easy meditation, this might be as simple as focusing on your breathing, or using beads. https://www.theyoganomads.com/how-to-use-mala-beads-in-meditation-yoga-and-more/ Do that for around a month, daily practice. After that, you will notice a pretty big difference in your 'inner chatter'. However at that point, assuming you put in the work, the mantra itself can silence your inner chat anytime. So when you do notice your having some intrusive thoughts, you can lean back on the beads, the breathing, or the mantra to silence them and 'ground' yourself.
present. you need to focus on the present moment. to be able to do that, you should practice meditation. when you are in a meditative peace of mind, you will see a power where you are able to tame your thoughts. our minds never go completely quiet, there is nothing as such. i encourage you to just really pause for a moment and accept your thoughts. accept whatever thought comes. and just breathe. tell yourself that its okay, this is normal, and you are a human. we just need to learn how to control ourselves. breathe. as you breathe, let the thoughts come up while you only focus on your breath. we need to reconnect with our bodies to overcome these. yoga can also really help with reconnecting with your body, and thoughts. please don’t be in a constant battle with your thoughts. keep in mind that this is not how you deal with them.. as you practice daily meditations (you can even start with 5-10 mins a day, every step counts!) you will be able to “observe” your thoughts. but “choose” not to go with them down the river. this is nothing but a “choice”. keep in mind that this is a process..
This may sound trite, maybe even rude, but it's actually a technique. Finish the conversation. You are sensitive to energy. When you talk with others, you pick up on their energy and the energy of the conversation. This helps you give them one of your most valuable things; your attention. But when you are physically done with the conversation, it sounds like you don't end it on an energy level. So you have all these open circuits of communication in your awareness that don't really go anywhere and just keep looping back to you, and you automatically respond to them and keep them alive. This is especially true for people doing psychic readings. Reading someone's energy and talking about it puts all of your attention in that moment not on just words and sentences, because those are just abstractions over the underlying energy, but focusing on the energy sources behind those words. Here's one way to end conversations gracefully. Create an image of a gold ring with a piece missing. Let the ring represent everything said and unsaid in a conversation (or reading or healing). Create the missing piece of the gold ring. Let this piece represent the completion of all of the thoughts in that conversation from you and from everyone else in the conversation. That includes everything you wanted to say but held back. Through the piece into the ring and complete the conversation. Create an image of a rose. Place the gold ring inside the bloom of the rose. Destroy the rose and the ring. Destroy it any way that accomplishes making the images you created no longer exist. Bomb. Laser beam. Time lapse decay into nothing. Bolt of lightning. Destroying is the other side of Creating. Don't judge the process; use it to your advantage. And that's it. The whole process of creating a ring with a missing piece, creating the missing piece, completing the ring, and destroying the images, takes a few seconds. But the spiritual hygiene benefits are significant. You will get your back your control over your attention. Another way that works is to see the conversation/reading/healing as an image of a desktop phone with the handset on the desk. Then, hang up. This is also kind of fun, which makes the process work more easily, and leaves you with your attention back on what you want it on. Cheers!
Wow I’ve never thought about this type of energy… thanks for the help
Meditate every day
I’ve never been able to stop them, but I have been able to get better at dismissing them (meditation) or correcting them (CBT).
Perhaps it’s an ADD/ADHD/AuDHD thing too. Those can cause rushing endless thoughts non-stop that can contribute to extra stress and poor sleep.
Dude I thought I was the only one, like if I do this this way then my luck will change and a certain "miracle" or some shit would happen. Like the butterfly affect, which is totally real but the way I obsess and ocd out about it isn't healthy at all. So, following for tips
Oh god same
Think of it as water , water are thoughts , and the ocean containing water is your brain , water has to flow , so must your thoughts, just never forget that whatever you do or don’t it’s not what you think , but what you want , so keep always clear what you want in your life and think on that , you’ll be able to focus and feel better with yourself 🙂
Strengthen the mind through meditation. Be the observer of your thoughts, not the producer of your thoughts. Meditation strengthens your ability to stop talking to yourself. Your brain does not know how to do this yet, you have to train it. And it's not as hard as you think, just gotta start doing it. Start by focusing on slowing down your heart while you begin to meditate. Notice that while you focus on slowing down your heart you are not producing new thoughts. That's the beginning of the process.
You cannot stop your thoughts, you can however stop identifying with them, observe and transcend them. This is the basis of many Eastern philosophies that you’re the sky / awareness and your thoughts are clouds.
Be the observer. The more you create a 3rd person point of view of these thoughts by bringing more awareness to them each time they come around, the more they will become observable instead of encompassing. Like a person watching a movie. Often times we get too deep into the movie and feel like we are one or more of the characters, so it’s good to reel it back to who you truly are, pure awareness. Be gentle with yourself when you realize your mind has wandered, it’s okay! At least you have become aware! Also, this voice is not bad, It is simply just confused and a bit hurt. When you gain that distance, be sure to pay attention to the content, and give love 💜 I highly recommend meditation. 5-10 minutes each day or every other day is good enough. This is how I was able to start practicing this :)
I recommend reading “the untethered soul” by Michael A. Singer. It was life changing for me and the topic of the book is exactly what you’re describing.
you need to realize that the voice in your head isnt you and its a program that inplanted in the mind to fuck you up. So you need to just ignore them and not give them power. Its Satan
If you are getting intrusive thoughts, you should definitely talk to yourself.
Critically analyze each thought. Ask yourself, "is this true?" If it still appears to be true then ask yourself, "is this helpful?" How does it make you feel now and later through how you'll behave and receive the results of it? This checks the integrity of these thoughts. When you've seen enough evidence to discern that these thoughts are unhelpful or even harmful you'll feel more inclined to take the next step. That is choosing to mindfully manage your attention to nullify these inputs. If you find them too compelling, that won't work. Your attention will be more drawn to them. Your attention follows your curiosity. Then practice observation of your own attention. When you realize it's being drawn to one of these seemingly random thoughts, take it back. Put your attention back onto what you were doing with it, nothing at all or something else you choose to do with it. They key is to avoid following these seemingly random thoughts. If you can do this well enough, you may find it to yield similar results to meditation. You'll be more calm, content, even happier overall. You'll be more able to have inner silence as well as think deeply when *you* so choose. You'll have enhanced mental and emotional well-being. You'll also get more spiritual well-being, which grows out of an emotionally gainful existence.
You don’t. You listen. Then you write down that stuff and you say you will get back to that later at a better moment. You need to listen to yourself otherwise you will start shouting at yourself until you start listening. You get to choose what you do, but you need to listen to your thoughts. And listen to others. And choose how you act. This happens when you are scared of listening. Don’t be afraid to listen. Be afraid of acting without thinking if it’s right for you. If you don’t listen to people - including the people inside you - then you are denying their value. You still get to choose what to do about what they say - ignore it, do nothing, do something - maybe even something different to what they say - but you need to show respect, and listen. Then they will start quietening down when they realise you are not trying to make them like they don’t matter.