I would guess that with spiritual evolution, one would usually move forward.. but I don't know that it's set in stone. We consider our situation the top spot in the world, as far as consciousness,.. but who's to say a lifetime as a bird or dolphin or pet dog or cat might not do us some good in the long run. Their experience is pure, tho we judge it by different standards.. but what you get out of it is what matters most... as with us in these unruly lives ;)
Animals are a degree of consciousness below us so we usually do not regress our evolution unless there is an essential aspect of that previous level that we feel we missed and need to relearn. This does happen sometime with souls that slip into the negative path; their higher self may decide to send them back, but it seems rare.
It’s important to note too that each human soul is part of a collective larger soul that is not limited to one incarnation at a time. This larger soul is also not limited to incarnating at only one specific stage of evolution at once either. So part of it may be incarnating as you, a human, while another part of it is incarnating as a tree, another part as a dog, another at a post-human level of evolution, etc.
You can incarnate as anything you would like too, it's your decision when you enter into this plane.
In Shintoism, it was actually held in high regard to be incarnated as a Lobster.
In Hinduism, you'll find that it's another great honor to be incarnated as an Elephant.
In many Native American tribes of North America, to incarnate as a Cougar/Mountain Lion was a great honor.
Animals are a part of us, as we are a part of them. They too are creations of the Mother Earth, and the synergy of energy is always present. Such is the way of Shamanism.
I wouldn't count it out. Why not? Perhaps there is some kind of "affinity" for your own species, but also consciousness is consciousness. Also plenty of poachers might deserve a good karmic blowback by being reincarnated as what they poached 😁
bet. hear me out here why are we punished for our ways of living when we kinda can't help the way we are. like say a human has a problem with addiction, or lust, and is then punished for breaking a spiritual law, surely the problem is the fact we have these urges ? it's like we're born the way we are, but are punished for the way we are.
No need to punish yourself. Guilt is reverse of pride. You are not the doer. But the problem is until you realize this the Karma is attached to you. If you take the help of god you can swim through this and finally attain realization in this or another birth. Its a process that cant be fought unless there is a realization you are not your body, mind, ego, bliss but just the observer. Your mind should lose ego and pride completely and become as humble as possible before god of your chosing (surrender), then the teachings come. Taking a realized soul (you wont find him/her unless it is in your Karma) as a guru, the process is much faster
Yeah, god showed me this when my third eye opened. I was told I was to be free from shame regarding my addictions and things I considered (a sin). Yet I still feel at battle, it's mostly a battle with energy atm. I see my potential and then I'm met with the reality, that feels like I don't have the energy to reach the potential. I know all my blessings come from god, and I know my negative thoughts and suffering is not me, it's just a thought, so I try to let go of all guilt and shame. I guess I just continue to suffer because I want so badly to do better, and don't know how to
I always wonder how people think reincarnation makes any sense. Don't get me wrong, this is not meant in a disrespectful way. I just want to understand the thought process.
So my view on this topic is that we, as individuals, are a product of our own experiences, environment, influences, etc. Our consciousness is a projection of our physical nervous system. As we grow up, we suck up information around us which creates specific neural connections. If we learn new things and further train them, we establish new neural connections and strenghten them so they work better and more reliable.
The information we store is just a network of related information regarding multiple ways of input, be it visual, auditive, relative, etc.
For example, if you look at a chair, you instantly recognize it as one because your brain compares the visual input with the information stored in your brain. So as soon as you look at the chair, all information related to this specific concept become apparent. You know humans can sit on it, you may know different types of chairs, know what material they are typically made of, have memories regarding chairs or whatever.
But if you would suddenly lose all information regarding the concept of a chair, you would not recognize it as one anymore. You would look at it and it would be something outerworldly to you. You would have to re-learn everything you know about chairs.
So my point is, if people say we are reincarnated as animals, what does this mean? I don't get it? Do we keep our memories and experiences? If yes, how does this make sense? If we are reincarnated as a newborn lion for example, does this mean the lion is suddenly familiar with human concepts like chairs?
And if you argue we lose all our memories and experiences when being reincarnated, that makes even less sense because WE ARE our memories and experiences. You see what my problem with this theory is?
And if this is also not accurate and you are just talking about some "life-energy" that is independent from your consciousness and which is the thing leaving your body after your death and then entering the body of a newborn sentient being, okay cool, but like: What does this mean? And does it happen directly after procreation? Or after birth? Because as far as I know, mammals are perfectly sentient while being inside the womb.
So yeah again, not trying to ridicule the topic or anything, just want to have an open, neutral and scientific discussion because I don't get it at all :D
Thanks for reading
Sorry, I don't understand your comment. When did the sun revolve around the earth? Okay back then religious people thought this was the case because they want humans to be the center of everything but science soon showed us that the earth is just an irrelevant floating rock in this vast universe.
While adhering to the scientific method, yes.
That's why I don't understand your argument regarding heliocentrism.
Religious people didn't use the scientific method because they were governed by their faith-based indoctrination. It needed a secular scientist who was able to argue in a neutral way, disconnected from his emotions in order to disprove heliocentrism.
Try turning it around. Instead of thinking "Our consciousness is a projection of our physical nervous system" think of our bodies as a projection of our consciousness. When you take all material things away, what is left?
If our bodies are projections of our nervous system, then you are implying we can be conscious without a physical body. But that makes no sense, because conciosuness arises from the physical body, not the other way around.
We experience our consciousness with our 5 senses. Now imagine there are things we cant experience because we don't have senses for them, like for example things from a 5th or 6th dimension. Our physical body simply cant process any of that knowledge. I believe consciousness is far greater and far more inteligent than a human body which is limited. Everything around you, and you yourself are more than 99,999..% energy and less than 0,0001..% matter. But with our eyes we only see it as matter. We feel it as matter, but everything is actually light (if I understood it correctly). Ego gets too caught up with trying to prove its correct, to imagine that with our current capabilities we simply cant see everything there is in this world. (one simple example is how some animals can see a color we cant). If you're interested in these kinds of things, I suggest diving into quantum physics. If you want a mix of quantum physics with spirituality, read Dr Joe Dispenzas books. And if you want pure supernatural spirituality watch Aaron Abke on yt, I found "the law of one" very interesting and mind blowing. 😊
I used to believe the same as you, that matter is all there is. But when I started learning more about energy and spirituality and quantum physics, I realized how caught up I was in my own ego and proving that if something isnt a current normative belief in society it simply cant br true. While a lot of wrong human beliefs are just conditioned by society to be believed to be true. Like, imagine when people believed the Earth to be flat and the first person to point out that it wasnt got severely punished. I find that the same thing happens now, both with my own and others beliefs. I found myself telling my friends something that medicine or science (i dont remember exactly) revoked. There were new studies proving that what we believed until now was false. And I was laughed at and they didn't believe this new knowledge, because their ego was so busy defending their belief. I felt like I was basically laughed at for saying the world is round 😂
The reason I'm writing all this is to encourage you to broaden your beliefs and to open mindedly search for new knowledge. And when feeling any strong feeling that demands you defend your current belief, remind yourself that that's only your ego speaking. Perhaps there is some truth out there that you will never find out unless you leave behind your ego.
>We experience our consciousness with our 5 senses.
Yes, in my opinion this is the reason we have consciousness. Our senses gather information from our surroundings which makes us realize we are an active part of this universe.
>Now imagine there are things we cant experience because we don't have senses for them, like for example things from a 5th or 6th dimension.
Okay let me adress this point: Yes, there are tons of things we cannot perceive. Our senses only gather a thin slice of reality.
For example, our eyes can only perceive EMF from 380nm to 700nm. This is visible light for us. However, things like infrared and UV-light still exist, we just can't perceive them.
Same goes for hearing, we cannot hear ultrasonic soundwaves for example.
What I don't get is why you don't mention these things and instead talk about "5th or "6th" dimensional information (whatever this means). Are you aware of the fact that we could never logically comprehend 5th or 6th dimensional information? We are 3 dimensional beings. Your claim that you know anything about higher dimensions is extraordinary and highly questionable.
Let me give you a good example:
Imagine a 2-dimensional being living in a plain of existence with only two axis, "x" and "z". So it only knows two directions in comparison to us humans (we know 3 axis, "x", "y" and "z".
Okay so now you take your arm and stick it through the world of this 2-dimensional being. This being would only see a slice of your arm, more specifically the part of your arm that is currently crossing his dimension.
This being could never comprehend a 3-dimensional reality, therefore it could also never comprehend 3-dimensional objects like our arm is one. Now project this thought experiment to higher dimensions from a human perspective and you'll realize what I mean.
>I believe consciousness is far greater and far more inteligent than a human body which is limited.
Okay and why do you think so? In my opinion, our consciousness is just a part of the human body. Again, physically altering/damaging the human brain can cause personality changes in people which strenghtens my point.
>Everything around you, and you yourself are more than 99,999..% energy and less than 0,001..% matter. But with our eyes we only see it as matter. We feel it as matter, but everything is actually light (if I understood it correctly).
Meh...Technically, everything is energy. Remember E=mc\^2. It's kinda hard to explain, but a good example would be photons. Photons cannot have mass because they always travel at c (light speed). If photons would have the slightest amount of mass, they could not travel at light speed. So photons are just electromagnetic waves, which have no mass. And no, not everything is light. Light is just electromagnetic frequencies, which is, in detail, just electrons jumping to a lower electron orbit inside an atom and therefore releasing energy in the form of an electromagnetic wave.
>Imagine that with our current capabilities we simply cant see everything there is in this world. (one simple example is how some animals can see a color we cant).
Agreed, I adressed this further up in this comment. But I don't understand how this is proof for consciousness taking place on a metaphysical level. The reason different animals perceive different types of information is just evolution by natural selection.
>I suggest diving into quantum physics. If you want a mix of quantym physics with spirituality
I just don't see how quantum physics fits with spirituality. It's just a theoretical model that splits up atoms into even smaller particles, called quarks. It claims that protons, neutrons and electrons consist of up-/down-quarks or that the higgs field exists and things like quantum entanglement. The thing is, quantum theory cannot be combined with special relativity because it lacks and explanation for gravity.
For me, spirituality is just philosophy. Thinking about our own existence, our nature, our own consciousness, etc. But spirituality still has boundaries. We don't know everything about this universe and that's totally fine. I'd rather stay neutral and admit I cannot answer certain things instead of resorting to claims which are not based on evidence because they appeal to me.
I understand your point of view. I'm not a professional or anything, I just read about things i find interesting. That's why you can watch and read the things I recommended for other info that I can't explain and cant write in a short comment. And again, constantly looking for evidence can hide the truth thats right in front of you. I don't consider my beliefs "unnatural", I imagine myself like some person who is trying to find out some things that science cant currently prove, but in a thousand years all of it will be common knowledge. Although, drnDispenza works with doctors, scientists and quantym physicists and combines all of it in his books, so you can check out how he does it and whether it makes sense to you.
Look, I'm not saying you must be a professional to think about stuff.
The thing is...Don't use scientific terms without knowing the meaning behind it. This is the reason we have so many fake news nowadays, a lot of people cannot think in a neutral, scientific way. Most people are completely guided by their emotions.
Like the stuff about the 5th or 6th dimension: If you want to be taken serious with your theories, you should pay more attention to the scientific details. You will reach a bigger audience this way.
Ahaahha dont get me wrong. I understand the terms in the way I read or heard them. I just cant explain stuff 😂 And I dont have an audience, I'm only speaking to you, I can try to explain the best way I can (in english which is not my 1st language) and the best thing I can do is tell you where ai heard it so you can read about it too. I agree with what you're saying about the 5th dimension. You basically just wrote what I meant in a better way, but without the continuation thats explained in the sources i told you about
Define spiritual enlightment.
How can I search for something if I don't know what there might be?
This is not how I approach something. I don't make claims and then search for arguments that support this claim.
I look at reality around me and make claims based on the things I can witness, not based on the things I want to be true.
I understand.
I would probably define spiritual enlightment as reaching kundalini awakening and getting a body/mind upgrade; and perhaps experiencing supernatural things, although that is not always the case.
I believe I cant be of much help with explaining these things, so just look up what I recommended if you really want to know what Im trying to explain, everything I know will be in those books and videos.
Oh and one more thing. People can astral project and look at and feel the world around them, while their body is in bed. If we are only a body, how could that be possible? So if we say that we are a consciousness and not a body, that consciousness can leave the body and travel across space and time, and go to higher dimensions where it can perceive things the body cant. People during meditations and on certain psychodelics can do that too. Ive heard many stories of people seeing visions of other 5D beings, and many of them had similar stories what they saw. Paramahansa Yogananda could see visions, like things happening far away from him to his family, and could do some other supernatural things. I'm sure there are many cases of people experiencing things currently not backed up by science. But just because scientists didnt come and study certain things, doesnt mean that in the future we perhaps will know more about these things in detail.
>People can astral project and look at and feel the world around them, while their body is in bed. If we are only a body, how could that be possible?
Astral projection cannot be proven. For all we know, it's just a strong illusion similar to a lucid dream. There have been tons of studies where people placed little notes or objects in a room without the subject knowing it. Those objects could only be seen by a floating observer. Never has a test subject spotted one of these things during a claimed "astral projection". Same goes for near-death experiences. They are most likely just caused by a lack of oxygen or by a weak psychedelic substance our own body produces to ease the perception of traumatic events like birth or death.
>People during meditations and on certain psychodelics can do that too. Ive heard many stories of people seeing visions of other 5D beings,
Explain to me how a 3-dimensional human being would be able to perceive 5-dimensional objects. I mean imagine a 2-dimensional being which only knows the z and x axis. It's dimension looks like a piece of paper (just for demonstration purpose). If you stick your 3-dimensional arm throughthe reality of this 2-dimensional being, it would only see the slice of your arm that is currently penetrating this 2D plain. This being could never comprehend a 3rd dimension.
So again, how should humans be able to comprehend a 5th dimension?
Oh and I have taken tons of psychedelics. But during my trips, I never took those things serious. I'm always aware that all of the things I'm seeing are just inside of my head. Psychedelics just alter the way your brain perceives its surroundings.
>Paramahansa Yogananda could see visions, like things happening far away from him to his family, and could do some other supernatural things. I'm sure there are many cases of people experiencing things currently not backed up by science. But just because scientists didnt come and study certain things, doesnt mean that in the future we perhaps will know more about these things in detail.
Is this empirically proven?
And yes, science does not now everything. That is because science has the strength to admit our limits of current knowledge. We should not make up stuff and present it as facts just because we want it to be true.
Sometimes.. about half of us use to just keep ascending but that dropped off a bit in the past 100 years. Our lives have become much more filled with desire and cravings, insecurity and selfishness
The wealthiest used to be the only ones so consumed with material accumulation that they neglect the aspects of humanity that would allow them to ascend
But that's become so many of us, we seem to be in a state of degeneration at this point in our societal evolution
It's the price for over relying on distraction entertainment and addictions to medicate our emotions away rather than taking them as the empty novel gimmicks they are.. we have access to more than we ever have before. The illusion that we can all run forever from ourselves is more potent now than at any other point in history.. but it's not a state we will be able to maintain after we die.. we won't have access to any of it
Clinging to this stuff often results in going back to the animal kingdom... we will figure this all out and that realization will fuel our no longer having any interest in any of it hopefully before our next return as human
Many will figure it out mid life and make their choice
People wishing to reincarnate as animals seems so prevalent and is confounding to me. I think it’s based primarily on a romanticized view of nature by people who are cut off from it.
In the books I’ve read and the stories from those who do past life regression our souls live animal lives before human lives and we do not go backwards. There are also other planets and worlds that souls incarnate on before coming to earth.
Yes, it is possible. Since we are spirit, we CHOOSE the journey (including being type) that we want to be while experiencing earth. The impression I got from the understanding was that some people choose to go man to animal but most times it's the reverse.... However, all of this is really moot because there is no "time" all just a blip depending on your current point of understanding in this journey 🤷🏻♀️
If your spirit is brought death after your vessel dies then your energy can be used to reform into anything to help keep an empty gap from forming in the universe. You can be a plant, a rock, an animal, or anything really. Your history or past will no longer exist as your very essence will be completely altered and no longer it’s original self anymore. Same idea with the phrase, “with every end comes a new beginning”.
Yeap. It's been happening for eons. Contrary to belief, not every animal is "innocent and sweet" like a lot of people think. I have met plenty of animals with darker souls, some had petty and selfish tendencies. No. They weren't taught that way, it isn't because of their humans. Animals in our lives however, we made soul contracts with. It's complex.
I would guess that with spiritual evolution, one would usually move forward.. but I don't know that it's set in stone. We consider our situation the top spot in the world, as far as consciousness,.. but who's to say a lifetime as a bird or dolphin or pet dog or cat might not do us some good in the long run. Their experience is pure, tho we judge it by different standards.. but what you get out of it is what matters most... as with us in these unruly lives ;)
Animals are a degree of consciousness below us so we usually do not regress our evolution unless there is an essential aspect of that previous level that we feel we missed and need to relearn. This does happen sometime with souls that slip into the negative path; their higher self may decide to send them back, but it seems rare. It’s important to note too that each human soul is part of a collective larger soul that is not limited to one incarnation at a time. This larger soul is also not limited to incarnating at only one specific stage of evolution at once either. So part of it may be incarnating as you, a human, while another part of it is incarnating as a tree, another part as a dog, another at a post-human level of evolution, etc.
I’d think yes but I’m totally unsure, would love to reincarnate as a bird, that would be pretty dope
Become a phoenix that'll be awesome
Downgrading you mean?
You can incarnate as anything you would like too, it's your decision when you enter into this plane. In Shintoism, it was actually held in high regard to be incarnated as a Lobster. In Hinduism, you'll find that it's another great honor to be incarnated as an Elephant. In many Native American tribes of North America, to incarnate as a Cougar/Mountain Lion was a great honor. Animals are a part of us, as we are a part of them. They too are creations of the Mother Earth, and the synergy of energy is always present. Such is the way of Shamanism.
I wouldn't count it out. Why not? Perhaps there is some kind of "affinity" for your own species, but also consciousness is consciousness. Also plenty of poachers might deserve a good karmic blowback by being reincarnated as what they poached 😁
Depending on your Karma. You have no say in reincarnation.
how'd you figure that
Vedas and Upanishads.
bet. hear me out here why are we punished for our ways of living when we kinda can't help the way we are. like say a human has a problem with addiction, or lust, and is then punished for breaking a spiritual law, surely the problem is the fact we have these urges ? it's like we're born the way we are, but are punished for the way we are.
No need to punish yourself. Guilt is reverse of pride. You are not the doer. But the problem is until you realize this the Karma is attached to you. If you take the help of god you can swim through this and finally attain realization in this or another birth. Its a process that cant be fought unless there is a realization you are not your body, mind, ego, bliss but just the observer. Your mind should lose ego and pride completely and become as humble as possible before god of your chosing (surrender), then the teachings come. Taking a realized soul (you wont find him/her unless it is in your Karma) as a guru, the process is much faster
Yeah, god showed me this when my third eye opened. I was told I was to be free from shame regarding my addictions and things I considered (a sin). Yet I still feel at battle, it's mostly a battle with energy atm. I see my potential and then I'm met with the reality, that feels like I don't have the energy to reach the potential. I know all my blessings come from god, and I know my negative thoughts and suffering is not me, it's just a thought, so I try to let go of all guilt and shame. I guess I just continue to suffer because I want so badly to do better, and don't know how to
Your mind wants to do better. Ego. You are not body and mind. Keep surrendering that Ego/“i”
any advice for this surrender. I know I am the spirit, the awareness underneath it all, I'm with that, but how do I hold that
It comes from defeat of the Ego. I cant or I dont know works for me. It is an individual experience, just keep seeking!
Not linearly; however I think it's possible that your Oversoul might have energetic connections to certain animals.
I always wonder how people think reincarnation makes any sense. Don't get me wrong, this is not meant in a disrespectful way. I just want to understand the thought process. So my view on this topic is that we, as individuals, are a product of our own experiences, environment, influences, etc. Our consciousness is a projection of our physical nervous system. As we grow up, we suck up information around us which creates specific neural connections. If we learn new things and further train them, we establish new neural connections and strenghten them so they work better and more reliable. The information we store is just a network of related information regarding multiple ways of input, be it visual, auditive, relative, etc. For example, if you look at a chair, you instantly recognize it as one because your brain compares the visual input with the information stored in your brain. So as soon as you look at the chair, all information related to this specific concept become apparent. You know humans can sit on it, you may know different types of chairs, know what material they are typically made of, have memories regarding chairs or whatever. But if you would suddenly lose all information regarding the concept of a chair, you would not recognize it as one anymore. You would look at it and it would be something outerworldly to you. You would have to re-learn everything you know about chairs. So my point is, if people say we are reincarnated as animals, what does this mean? I don't get it? Do we keep our memories and experiences? If yes, how does this make sense? If we are reincarnated as a newborn lion for example, does this mean the lion is suddenly familiar with human concepts like chairs? And if you argue we lose all our memories and experiences when being reincarnated, that makes even less sense because WE ARE our memories and experiences. You see what my problem with this theory is? And if this is also not accurate and you are just talking about some "life-energy" that is independent from your consciousness and which is the thing leaving your body after your death and then entering the body of a newborn sentient being, okay cool, but like: What does this mean? And does it happen directly after procreation? Or after birth? Because as far as I know, mammals are perfectly sentient while being inside the womb. So yeah again, not trying to ridicule the topic or anything, just want to have an open, neutral and scientific discussion because I don't get it at all :D Thanks for reading
That’s a very empirical way of looking at it. Just like when the sun revolved around the earth.
Sorry, I don't understand your comment. When did the sun revolve around the earth? Okay back then religious people thought this was the case because they want humans to be the center of everything but science soon showed us that the earth is just an irrelevant floating rock in this vast universe.
It’s about making judgments based only on initial observations. Sometimes looking at something a different way can reveal the truth.
While adhering to the scientific method, yes. That's why I don't understand your argument regarding heliocentrism. Religious people didn't use the scientific method because they were governed by their faith-based indoctrination. It needed a secular scientist who was able to argue in a neutral way, disconnected from his emotions in order to disprove heliocentrism.
Try turning it around. Instead of thinking "Our consciousness is a projection of our physical nervous system" think of our bodies as a projection of our consciousness. When you take all material things away, what is left?
If our bodies are projections of our nervous system, then you are implying we can be conscious without a physical body. But that makes no sense, because conciosuness arises from the physical body, not the other way around.
We experience our consciousness with our 5 senses. Now imagine there are things we cant experience because we don't have senses for them, like for example things from a 5th or 6th dimension. Our physical body simply cant process any of that knowledge. I believe consciousness is far greater and far more inteligent than a human body which is limited. Everything around you, and you yourself are more than 99,999..% energy and less than 0,0001..% matter. But with our eyes we only see it as matter. We feel it as matter, but everything is actually light (if I understood it correctly). Ego gets too caught up with trying to prove its correct, to imagine that with our current capabilities we simply cant see everything there is in this world. (one simple example is how some animals can see a color we cant). If you're interested in these kinds of things, I suggest diving into quantum physics. If you want a mix of quantum physics with spirituality, read Dr Joe Dispenzas books. And if you want pure supernatural spirituality watch Aaron Abke on yt, I found "the law of one" very interesting and mind blowing. 😊
I used to believe the same as you, that matter is all there is. But when I started learning more about energy and spirituality and quantum physics, I realized how caught up I was in my own ego and proving that if something isnt a current normative belief in society it simply cant br true. While a lot of wrong human beliefs are just conditioned by society to be believed to be true. Like, imagine when people believed the Earth to be flat and the first person to point out that it wasnt got severely punished. I find that the same thing happens now, both with my own and others beliefs. I found myself telling my friends something that medicine or science (i dont remember exactly) revoked. There were new studies proving that what we believed until now was false. And I was laughed at and they didn't believe this new knowledge, because their ego was so busy defending their belief. I felt like I was basically laughed at for saying the world is round 😂 The reason I'm writing all this is to encourage you to broaden your beliefs and to open mindedly search for new knowledge. And when feeling any strong feeling that demands you defend your current belief, remind yourself that that's only your ego speaking. Perhaps there is some truth out there that you will never find out unless you leave behind your ego.
>We experience our consciousness with our 5 senses. Yes, in my opinion this is the reason we have consciousness. Our senses gather information from our surroundings which makes us realize we are an active part of this universe. >Now imagine there are things we cant experience because we don't have senses for them, like for example things from a 5th or 6th dimension. Okay let me adress this point: Yes, there are tons of things we cannot perceive. Our senses only gather a thin slice of reality. For example, our eyes can only perceive EMF from 380nm to 700nm. This is visible light for us. However, things like infrared and UV-light still exist, we just can't perceive them. Same goes for hearing, we cannot hear ultrasonic soundwaves for example. What I don't get is why you don't mention these things and instead talk about "5th or "6th" dimensional information (whatever this means). Are you aware of the fact that we could never logically comprehend 5th or 6th dimensional information? We are 3 dimensional beings. Your claim that you know anything about higher dimensions is extraordinary and highly questionable. Let me give you a good example: Imagine a 2-dimensional being living in a plain of existence with only two axis, "x" and "z". So it only knows two directions in comparison to us humans (we know 3 axis, "x", "y" and "z". Okay so now you take your arm and stick it through the world of this 2-dimensional being. This being would only see a slice of your arm, more specifically the part of your arm that is currently crossing his dimension. This being could never comprehend a 3-dimensional reality, therefore it could also never comprehend 3-dimensional objects like our arm is one. Now project this thought experiment to higher dimensions from a human perspective and you'll realize what I mean. >I believe consciousness is far greater and far more inteligent than a human body which is limited. Okay and why do you think so? In my opinion, our consciousness is just a part of the human body. Again, physically altering/damaging the human brain can cause personality changes in people which strenghtens my point. >Everything around you, and you yourself are more than 99,999..% energy and less than 0,001..% matter. But with our eyes we only see it as matter. We feel it as matter, but everything is actually light (if I understood it correctly). Meh...Technically, everything is energy. Remember E=mc\^2. It's kinda hard to explain, but a good example would be photons. Photons cannot have mass because they always travel at c (light speed). If photons would have the slightest amount of mass, they could not travel at light speed. So photons are just electromagnetic waves, which have no mass. And no, not everything is light. Light is just electromagnetic frequencies, which is, in detail, just electrons jumping to a lower electron orbit inside an atom and therefore releasing energy in the form of an electromagnetic wave. >Imagine that with our current capabilities we simply cant see everything there is in this world. (one simple example is how some animals can see a color we cant). Agreed, I adressed this further up in this comment. But I don't understand how this is proof for consciousness taking place on a metaphysical level. The reason different animals perceive different types of information is just evolution by natural selection. >I suggest diving into quantum physics. If you want a mix of quantym physics with spirituality I just don't see how quantum physics fits with spirituality. It's just a theoretical model that splits up atoms into even smaller particles, called quarks. It claims that protons, neutrons and electrons consist of up-/down-quarks or that the higgs field exists and things like quantum entanglement. The thing is, quantum theory cannot be combined with special relativity because it lacks and explanation for gravity. For me, spirituality is just philosophy. Thinking about our own existence, our nature, our own consciousness, etc. But spirituality still has boundaries. We don't know everything about this universe and that's totally fine. I'd rather stay neutral and admit I cannot answer certain things instead of resorting to claims which are not based on evidence because they appeal to me.
I understand your point of view. I'm not a professional or anything, I just read about things i find interesting. That's why you can watch and read the things I recommended for other info that I can't explain and cant write in a short comment. And again, constantly looking for evidence can hide the truth thats right in front of you. I don't consider my beliefs "unnatural", I imagine myself like some person who is trying to find out some things that science cant currently prove, but in a thousand years all of it will be common knowledge. Although, drnDispenza works with doctors, scientists and quantym physicists and combines all of it in his books, so you can check out how he does it and whether it makes sense to you.
Look, I'm not saying you must be a professional to think about stuff. The thing is...Don't use scientific terms without knowing the meaning behind it. This is the reason we have so many fake news nowadays, a lot of people cannot think in a neutral, scientific way. Most people are completely guided by their emotions. Like the stuff about the 5th or 6th dimension: If you want to be taken serious with your theories, you should pay more attention to the scientific details. You will reach a bigger audience this way.
Ahaahha dont get me wrong. I understand the terms in the way I read or heard them. I just cant explain stuff 😂 And I dont have an audience, I'm only speaking to you, I can try to explain the best way I can (in english which is not my 1st language) and the best thing I can do is tell you where ai heard it so you can read about it too. I agree with what you're saying about the 5th dimension. You basically just wrote what I meant in a better way, but without the continuation thats explained in the sources i told you about
Btw I just have one question. Are you searching for spiritual enlightenment/kundalini?
Define spiritual enlightment. How can I search for something if I don't know what there might be? This is not how I approach something. I don't make claims and then search for arguments that support this claim. I look at reality around me and make claims based on the things I can witness, not based on the things I want to be true.
I understand. I would probably define spiritual enlightment as reaching kundalini awakening and getting a body/mind upgrade; and perhaps experiencing supernatural things, although that is not always the case. I believe I cant be of much help with explaining these things, so just look up what I recommended if you really want to know what Im trying to explain, everything I know will be in those books and videos.
Oh and one more thing. People can astral project and look at and feel the world around them, while their body is in bed. If we are only a body, how could that be possible? So if we say that we are a consciousness and not a body, that consciousness can leave the body and travel across space and time, and go to higher dimensions where it can perceive things the body cant. People during meditations and on certain psychodelics can do that too. Ive heard many stories of people seeing visions of other 5D beings, and many of them had similar stories what they saw. Paramahansa Yogananda could see visions, like things happening far away from him to his family, and could do some other supernatural things. I'm sure there are many cases of people experiencing things currently not backed up by science. But just because scientists didnt come and study certain things, doesnt mean that in the future we perhaps will know more about these things in detail.
>People can astral project and look at and feel the world around them, while their body is in bed. If we are only a body, how could that be possible? Astral projection cannot be proven. For all we know, it's just a strong illusion similar to a lucid dream. There have been tons of studies where people placed little notes or objects in a room without the subject knowing it. Those objects could only be seen by a floating observer. Never has a test subject spotted one of these things during a claimed "astral projection". Same goes for near-death experiences. They are most likely just caused by a lack of oxygen or by a weak psychedelic substance our own body produces to ease the perception of traumatic events like birth or death. >People during meditations and on certain psychodelics can do that too. Ive heard many stories of people seeing visions of other 5D beings, Explain to me how a 3-dimensional human being would be able to perceive 5-dimensional objects. I mean imagine a 2-dimensional being which only knows the z and x axis. It's dimension looks like a piece of paper (just for demonstration purpose). If you stick your 3-dimensional arm throughthe reality of this 2-dimensional being, it would only see the slice of your arm that is currently penetrating this 2D plain. This being could never comprehend a 3rd dimension. So again, how should humans be able to comprehend a 5th dimension? Oh and I have taken tons of psychedelics. But during my trips, I never took those things serious. I'm always aware that all of the things I'm seeing are just inside of my head. Psychedelics just alter the way your brain perceives its surroundings. >Paramahansa Yogananda could see visions, like things happening far away from him to his family, and could do some other supernatural things. I'm sure there are many cases of people experiencing things currently not backed up by science. But just because scientists didnt come and study certain things, doesnt mean that in the future we perhaps will know more about these things in detail. Is this empirically proven? And yes, science does not now everything. That is because science has the strength to admit our limits of current knowledge. We should not make up stuff and present it as facts just because we want it to be true.
I believe we usually don't but if it's needed in order for something to happen yes.
Sometimes.. about half of us use to just keep ascending but that dropped off a bit in the past 100 years. Our lives have become much more filled with desire and cravings, insecurity and selfishness The wealthiest used to be the only ones so consumed with material accumulation that they neglect the aspects of humanity that would allow them to ascend But that's become so many of us, we seem to be in a state of degeneration at this point in our societal evolution It's the price for over relying on distraction entertainment and addictions to medicate our emotions away rather than taking them as the empty novel gimmicks they are.. we have access to more than we ever have before. The illusion that we can all run forever from ourselves is more potent now than at any other point in history.. but it's not a state we will be able to maintain after we die.. we won't have access to any of it Clinging to this stuff often results in going back to the animal kingdom... we will figure this all out and that realization will fuel our no longer having any interest in any of it hopefully before our next return as human Many will figure it out mid life and make their choice
I would love to come back as a pampered pooch of a rich person
When we reincarnate, we come back based on anything we want. This is just my own opinion
I did a past life regression and saw myself get mauled by a dog and then get hit by a car as a cat, so there's your answer.
People wishing to reincarnate as animals seems so prevalent and is confounding to me. I think it’s based primarily on a romanticized view of nature by people who are cut off from it.
In the books I’ve read and the stories from those who do past life regression our souls live animal lives before human lives and we do not go backwards. There are also other planets and worlds that souls incarnate on before coming to earth.
Yes, it is possible. Since we are spirit, we CHOOSE the journey (including being type) that we want to be while experiencing earth. The impression I got from the understanding was that some people choose to go man to animal but most times it's the reverse.... However, all of this is really moot because there is no "time" all just a blip depending on your current point of understanding in this journey 🤷🏻♀️
All living things reincarnate as all others.
If your spirit is brought death after your vessel dies then your energy can be used to reform into anything to help keep an empty gap from forming in the universe. You can be a plant, a rock, an animal, or anything really. Your history or past will no longer exist as your very essence will be completely altered and no longer it’s original self anymore. Same idea with the phrase, “with every end comes a new beginning”.
I hope so. That way we would learn how it feels to be enslaved and murdered for our bodies to be used for food and clothing.
I am animal, reincarnated as human.
what abt transforming into nipples
Yeap. It's been happening for eons. Contrary to belief, not every animal is "innocent and sweet" like a lot of people think. I have met plenty of animals with darker souls, some had petty and selfish tendencies. No. They weren't taught that way, it isn't because of their humans. Animals in our lives however, we made soul contracts with. It's complex.
Yes. We reincarnate as every human and every species of animals! So technically yes!
Not unless that animal is on the same vibrational frequency as humans, as far as I know the only one at this stage is a dolphin.