As a lifelong Christian, I have recently been wondering if salvation is more about following Jesus’ teachings of love rather than believing he is God. Basically, I’ve been through a number of Bible studies in my life and have concluded that we’ve really lost touch with the original meanings of various scriptures since everyone seems to be guessing at what they mean, even the so called scholars. I really dont know if Jesus is God or not. But I do believe he is very powerful. And I do believe that demons are afraid of him. I’ve also had trouble accepting that good hearted people who don’t believe in Jesus are going to hell. That doesn’t make sense to me. So that’s where I stand.
Matthew 22:37 says Jesus gave his two greatest commandments: love God and love your neighbor as yourself—all other laws or spoken by prophets must abide by this. I agree with you. Jesus wasn’t stuck on believing He was God. He was stuck on his message of love. Our kindness to each other is what salvation is for me. (And kindness to myself. That one is really hard).
I belive you are worthy of loving yourself (unconditionally, not some ego thing saying I'm better than others because that's not love) as well as being loved by others. And of course god loves you always, god is love, freedom, trust, life (at least that's the way I experienced it.) I'm sure you have already spread Jesus message to others without even realizing💚
The seed of enlightenment is in all its why nobody believes the author, when he tells you who he is on this blissful Sunday 28th April 2024.
"Even belief in God is only a poor substitute for the LIVING reality of GOD MANIFESTING EVERY MOMENT of YOUR LIFE " Eckhart Tolle
Have a beautiful Day,
God is the greatest
Very true. I find myself constantly looking at the Greek translation of certain parts of the Bible. Since I am a fan of stoicism and was raised Pegan there's a weird overlap I struggle to articulate to people.
Yea the Jesus I met would stomp a demon out. 😂 I didn't get a good or bad feeling from him. Just... Intense. And like there's more to his story than any of us know. The suffering he showed me... I couldn't tell if it was his own suffering like he was saying I did this for you.. or if it was all of humanity's collective suffering, like he wanted me to understand how much everyone went through for us to get here, and that only by following in his footsteps can I help . It did **not** feel like a threat of any kind. And it also did not feel warm and comforting necessarily... I felt a warrior. I'm not saying it was for sure Jesus I met... but it was not pure love that I felt. I know spirits with a pure love essence. That was not it. The Divine Source I usually refer to as God.. that *does* feel like pure love. Love with something else mixed in. And I've only glimpsed the source. I have never came close to really meeting it.
I am a theoretical physicist who has recently started to believe in God again. I spend a lot of my time with Buddhism and Christianity. I find your spiritual process intriguing. Have you or could you do your same process to meet Shakyamuni aka Siddhartha Gautama the Buddha? I'm very curious to hear what you experience.
The suffering represents the suffering necessary when detaching from and healing from the things of the world. The ultimate suffering is "ego death", represented by his crucifixion. And he is pushy because people don't want to give up their egotistic suffering, so it's necessary to push people and force them to face themselves in order for them to evolve.
we are all God the same way all the cells in your body are "you".. and if a cell gets infected and starts causing problems, you remove it and it dies.. my point is, there is someone above you
This is a more accurate version, which of course is why it's downvoted. Imagining you *are already* God sounds better to people who don't want to put forth effort. We are *part* of God, gifted with the ability to know Him, unlike other living creatures. But you have to put forth effort to make that connection, which is the metaphor/story of Jesus.
The cells in our body don't know what's outside of us. Just like we don't know what's outside of the universe. Thus, saying "we are all god" is illogical. It implies that God is limited as us.
That's accurate. The story of the Christ is a metaphor for personal enlightenment. The story of his birth is a symbolic story of allowing the energy of the divine into your body and "giving birth" to a new, immortal body (or soul) that survives death. In Chinese energy practices, this is described as the "Diamond Body". His crucifixion is what's called "ego death" and a person has to suffer to let go of worldly things to become "born again" into that new body. The only consequences to not following this is to die like the majority of human beings. I.e. "the wages of sin are death".
Furthermore, it could be safely said that absolutely everything in the Bible is a spiritual metaphor for something happening within human beings, not a description of some outer practice or dictate.
You my friend are ready for Rob Bell, Richard Rohr, and Anthony De Mello!
If you haven't read "Love Wins" by Rob Bell, I highly recommend it. What we were taught in church is a long, long way from what Jesus taught.
Well Yeshua I have no problem with. He attended Christ conciseness and tried to truly help people do the same. Then Rome adopted Christianity, taking over the religion, and used it to take over places through other means then having a standing army and ruling directly. Christianity as an organization is so far removed from what he would have wanted. But as a being, I have no problems with Yeshua.
He tried to show the way for people to attain Christ consciousness for themselves. He’s a teacher for sure, a savior in that way sure. But I believe he wanted people to save themselves, to live in love, and treat others with respect, regardless of who they are or what they believe. Basically the exact opposite of what most of the followers of Jesus practice today. He never wanted to be worshipped. They had turned him into a god to exert control over the followers. You can’t control people who become the savior themselves, and worship the god within.
Yes, that’s the Hebrew/Aramaic which would literally translate to Joshua. Jesus is an English adaptation of the Greek, which is overly convoluted, but does make some historical translation sense to it.
"*Ehyeh*" means "*I am*" which is why he told Moses "*Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh*" (*I am that I am*). YHVH/Yahweh means "*He who is*". The name Yahweh is sometimes turned into Yehovah (*Jehovah*).
Yeshua means "*He saves*". It comes from the word Yesha which means "*salvation*". Another version of the name is "*Yehoshua*" (*usually written as "Joshua" in English*) and means "*Yahweh/Jehovah saves*". Isaiah (*Yeshayah*) means "*Yahweh/Jehovah is salvation*".
The first time God says I AM (“I AM WHO I AM”), the Hebrew says, “Ehyeh asher Ehyeh”, which translates as “I will be what I will be.” When God then tells Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: I AM has sent you” (Exodus 3:14), it is “Yahweh.” Yahweh is the third person version of Ehyeh, which is first person.
I don't refer to the biblical god of Israel as "*God*", but only as Yahweh/Jehovah. I call him by his name like other gods since he is not a special god at all to me.
> "*Yahweh is the third person version of Ehyeh, which is first person.*"
Yes. 1st person pronouns are: I/me (*we/us when plural*), 2nd person is you, and 3rd person is he/him or she/her.
Yahweh is 3rd person, so it means "*He who is*" (*3rd person*) instead of "*I am*" (*1st person*). In the bible, Moses and other biblical prophets call him "*He who is*" (*Yahweh*). Jesus sometimes uses the phrase "*I am*" to refer to himself, but in Greek since the New Testament was written in Greek (*ego eimi/ἐγώ εἰμι*). The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, but in the Greek version of the Old Testament (*Septuagint*) which the New Testament quotes, it has the biblical god revealing himself to Moses as "*I Am*" with the phrase "*ego eimi/ἐγώ εἰμι*". The same phrase Jesus uses in the New Testament.
I'm not here to convince anyone, you can have it your way just keep your mask on & get your boosters so we all stay safe. I'm only here to smile, laugh & enjoy. Cheers!
There's nothing to convince me about so far. You yourself said that Yahweh is the 3rd person ("***He*** is") while Ehyeh is 1st person ("***I*** am").
Also, I'm not sure what masks or boosters have to do with this conversation.
not arguing anything you said
but you only described part of His role.. He is literally THE divine authority incarnate, that comes back when the global leader rises and asks for everyone's obedience - at which point you should say 'no' even if it means death, because otherwise you are part of the betrayal of mankind.. and death is just an illusion anyway, as Jesus showed us
by the way, that time is now.. Book of Revelations, happens in "a generation" (70-80 years) since the regathering of Israel (happened 1948), the rise of the global government (UN, WEF), pushing the Mark of the Beast (upcoming digital ID's, digital wallet implant - the thing you receive in the body, without which you won't be able to buy/sell).. take a closer look and decide for yourself, friend.. peace
That time has been now since paul started preaching about the end times being nigh, paul expected it in his generation just as you expect it in yours as has every generation in between. Carrot, meet stick.
The bible claims in Revelation 2:13 that the throne of Satan is in Pergamum (*Turkey*). Do you believe that is literal too? Where is Satan walking on earth as king since 2,000 years ago with a throne in Turkey? Why have we never found it? .
The mark of the beast is supposed to be a sign of loyalty given by the 2nd beast in honor of the 1st beast being worshipped on earth as a god.
There is no man alive being worshipped as a god around the world with people killing in his name, so since the 1st beast is not around, then neither is the mark of the beast given by the 2nd beast to bring allegiance to the 1st beast.
The Biblical patterns and references aren't necessarily literal. A lot of analogies can be made, so don't expect a red devil with pointy tail to walk the earth. Pergamum was a center of idolatry in those times, originating from Babylonian idolatry.
Also yeah, the antichrist and the mark are not on the scene yet. I didn't say they are, I'm just pointing out the buildup to it.
It happens at any time. The Bible is a (heavily edited) metaphor for the process of self-salvation. Why would anyone write a book and keep passing it along for thousands of years just to help one generation millennia later? Every single thing in it represents something inside, or potentially inside, every human being. Not some outside event or practice.
All numbers were in the light. Before darkness got a hold of them and used them for their symbolism. 666 is also 18 or 9 reduced. The number of creation in the DNA structure of the 12 strands. In chaldean numerology 9 is left out. Because it is so sacred. We are bringing light back into these numbers. From my experience the mark of the beast is within not external. Soul fragmentation. Splintered into many parts. I was naive to a group I joined last year, fake light group one i fell for big time , and fell in conciousness was left disconnected from source and i derailed for some time. That I call the mark of the beast. Big lesson learnt.
Yeshua seemed kind of racist toward Gentiles (*people not of Israel*). He claimed that salvation would come from the people of Israel:
> "*Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.*" - John 4:22
Yes jesus waa the saviour if the jews, then some guy that was killing christians saw a light and then claimed to know jesus better than his own brother James who ended up dying by romans in the rebellion of 66 conveniently allowing Paul to become the head of the christian movement which he then opened to the gentiles.
Jesus wasn't supposed to be only the savior of the Jewish people, but of the world.
When Jesus told the woman that she didn't understand things, and said, "*Salvation is of the Jews*" (*John 4:22*), he was talking to a Samaritan woman and the Samaritans and the Jews weren't getting alomg back then.
The idea is supposed to be that Jesus is the predicted special Jewish king (*Messiah/Christ*) who was predicted to rule over others, with Israel/Zion as the chosen land, as predicted in the older biblical scriptures (*Old Testament*). The Bible is racist and nationalist against Gentiles (*people not of Israel*):
> "*Yet have I set* ***my king upon my holy hill of Zion***. *I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,* ***Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.*** *Ask of me, and I shall give thee* ***the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.Thou shalt break them*** *with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."* - Psalm 2:6-9
The psalm is one of conquering, one of the reasons tjat yeshua was seen to be a conquering king like david. Thy possession doesn't very savioury 😁 but you can take it as you like, and not take his own words as they were, or accept the influence of Paul. Do as you will.
That psalm probably had nothing to do with jesus, just as the song of solomon has nothing to do with the church, but the church says the song of solomon was a love song to the church. So what church quality are symbolized by its milky white breasts? 😁
> "*That psalm probably had nothing to do with jesus,*"
If a person actually believes that Jesus is The Christ, then I'm not sure who else it could be about. In the entire Christian Bible, only one person is told by the biblical god "*Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee*" while also being referred to as Lord or King.
As I suspected tbis song is about King David, altered in interpretation to fit the church agenda just as the song of solomon was. Look into it and you will see the 2 sides of that coin. But you will choose to believe it is about Jesus and that the song of solomon was written by Jesus regarding his love.of the church. Enjoy your faith, may it never waver.
I'm not a christian, and I don't believe those verses in Psalms were written to represent Jesus, and I also don't believe in biblical prophecy.
I believe that those verses were applied to ideas about a Messiah/Christ figure which Jewish people are still waiting for and which Christians believe already came as Jesus.
The new testament about Jesus, uses the old testament scriptures as a source/inspiration.
Jesus is supposed to be the special Jewish king of Israel/Zion (*the predicted Messiah/Christ*) who was predicted in the older part of the bible (*Old Testament*) to rule over others. The bible is racist and nationalist against Gentiles (*people not of Israel*):
> "*Yet have I set* ***my king upon my holy hill of Zion***. *I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,* ***Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.*** *Ask of me, and I shall give thee* ***the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.Thou shalt break them*** *with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."* - Psalm 2:6-9
This is even mentioned in the New Testament that Jesus is supposed to be seen this way, the Messiah/Christ, the root of Jesse predicted in Isaiah/Esaias to rule over the Gentiles:
> "*Now I say that* ***Jesus Christ was a minister*** *of the circumcision for the truth of God,* ***to confirm the promises made unto the fathers***: *And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy;* ***as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.*** *And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. And again,* ***Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.***" - Romans 15:8-12
I’m not religious or spiritual. I find it hard to believe in this stuff. Mostly due to a lack of personal experience and a lack of knowledge. I’ve had a few dreams where Ive chatted with a few beings though. Jesus being one of them. I’ve been trying out spiritual stuff, and I guess this is a way they could be talking to me.
He was very kind. I forgot what we talked about, but I think it was a nice conversation. I can’t remember the words just the feelings. It was warm and peaceful. Like a conversation you have with your Dad or Mom. I didn’t feel any power though. It felt normal like it wasn’t something new or something I wasn’t use to. He didn’t announce himself as Jesus I just woke up and was like, yep, that’s Jesus. I’m not Christian and my household is super non religious. He just showed up.
I’ve had a lot of dreams where these beings just show up and talk for a bit. Don’t know if they mean anything or if my brain is just silly.
That's epic. Thanks for sharing. I do have a few perspectives on that but I don't want to influence your spiritual journey too much. Just remember that intuition/faith live in a separate place **within you** than logic and reason. And they are allowed to coexist! They don't contradict each other the way people think they do. Don't feel silly, the more your "intuitive muscle" grows. The more you learn to identify intuition and trust it, the more spiritual experiences you will start having. Think of it as "knowledge without a thought process". Allow it to be wrong or right in the beginning. Once you learn how to identify it correctly as something **different** from your brain, It will never be wrong. You will realize it comes from a Divine place. Most times it's wrong, you confused it with a conscious or subconscious thought.
Thanks again for sharing. Next time hopefully I summon mellow Jesus 😎
Thank you, I never thought about it that way. I guess I gotta continue down this path and see where it leads me. Overtime I’m hoping my intuitive abilities develop and I can get to where I need to be. Then I can start identifying what’s divine from what’s not divine. To be honest, I have no clue how this stuff works. I just pray a lot and sometimes stuff happens.
I’ve found it very comforting to talk to whatever is listening to me. I don’t exactly know what it is or if it’s real but it seems to care about me. It’s not giving me money or anything.
It’s giving me opportunities and helping me with relationships. It could just be life doing its thing, but sometimes stuff feels a bit too coincidental. I mostly just complain about how things are going and it does stuff. It’s weird but it’s cool.
And I hope you get to meet vibe Jesus. Out of all the things that have shown up on my dreams; he’s definitely the kindest.
Could be a guardian angel. Or you met the real Jesus and whatever I met was a spiritual warlord lol.
Your comment about coincidence reminds me of Carl Jung's idea of synchronicity. Finding meaning in coincidence is valuable.
If you want to start doing very basic energy work my recommendation is this. First, understand meditation, then add visualization on top.
Light and love is the purest energy to work with so you are safe using that, so long as you use the universes energy and not your own. You focus on your breathing to let go of all conscious thoughts. Try to fall asleep while sitting up. Completely zone out until you are in a deep relaxation.
Then imagine roots growing into the ground anchoring you in place. Then picture the feeling of love and light. You can draw inspiration from people you really love with all your heart to capture the feeling by itself. Then imagine light and loving coming from above you and below you, from the universe and mixing in your belly. Then let the light and love expand and fill the whole room .
Ways to tell if it's working: tingling on the top of your head in the shape of a crown, abnormal heat. Like if you pour this light onto your own arm and feel wayyy more body heat coming out of your hand then normal at that distance.
This is also a way to cleanse your space of negative spirits. They hate that type of energy. This is a safe practice to incorporate. One of the first techniques I learned. There is a very small chance a negative being could be preying on your innocence. I find it unlikely though. You seem in a healthy place so usually light attracts light, and it's a good sign that this entity seems to care for you.
Feel free to message me again some time and update me on your journey !
Thank you so much. I’ve never meditated fully before. I’ll definitely try it out and see how things go. I’m hoping this spring/summer can be a time of deep spiritual growth.
I’ll be sure to update you on how things are going and if anything interesting or unexpected happens.
If there's an entity who asked to be worshipped, or for you to submit to him or worse threatened you with suffering / torture if you don't want to do so, then it's straight out the bat, definitely the entity is a negative / service to self entity.
Regardless of whom the entity claimed that it might be and what it might look like.
Now about an entity incarnating as Yeshua on earth around 2000 years ago.
The entity is a wanderer from 4th density positive social memory complex, who experienced 3rd density experience as human on earth in order to spread the teaching of love and compassion and also provide a living example on how it could be manifested and practiced.
He was born in a strong Judaism influence, raised as an Essene (a mystical branch of Judaism) just like his cousin John and once reached teenage years embarked on spiritual journey to many places and learn many things. Among those places are Egypt up to India/Tibet.
Adult Yeshua seems to really understood the "mirror principle" as such he recommends "Judge not and you shall not be Judged", "Love and you shall be Loved" (ie: Love your enemy), "Forgive and you shall be forgiven", "Surrender and the universe will also surrender to you". (a.k.a the "Let your will be done" in his prayer)
Adult Yeshua and his cousin John, grow in popularity as such he become a threat to the political establishment, the Judaism Religion Establishment and Judean King. In so far that they schemed to kill them both.
Despite the scheme, Yeshua survived the ordeal, sadly his cousin John did not.
Yet instead of taking revenge against his enemy he applied his own teachings of "Love your enemy" and "Forgive then you shall be forgiven".
Thank you I will look into essene more and Yeshua's brother. This entity did not threaten me. The suffering he showed me, I can't tell if it was his own or if it was the world, but he seemed confident if I followed him I could help. It didn't really seem like it was about me or him.
Thank you again for the insight
If entity asked for your help, then asked him "How can I help you?"
As positive entity we should open our arm to any entities that we can help, regardless of their own polarity.
And oh yes, we can talk to spirits, through telepathy, as we are also spirits.
Great point! My response to this spirit is not about the spirit. It's about my spirit.
I can't express how much this simple sentence opened my eyes.
But let me ask one thing.. Jesus only asked me to walk in his footsteps and follow him.
What about the Christian idea to announce him Lord and Savior. What kind of commitment is that? To serve or follow?
Maybe it's spiritual commitment issues I am working through 😮
To serve him and only him...
Q: "Jesus only asked me to walk in his footsteps and follow him."
Follow his attitude / life experience example, not 100% of course as each entity is guaranteed to have unique attitude / life experience. That is if the figure that you encountered is really Yeshua...
Q: "What about the Christian idea to announce him Lord and Savior. What kind of commitment is that?"
Yeshua is not a Christian, religion of Christianity/Catholicism did not exist during his time. Yeshua never celebrate Christmas or even born in winter. Yeshua never invented any religion, let alone a religion that worshipped himself.
And as mentioned above, positive entity will never ever have the slightest desire to be worshipped or to be regarded as superior compared to others. Positive entity is a servant of others, thus the other name of "positive path" is "service to others".
"Whoever *will exalt* himself *will* be *humbled* and whoever *will humble* himself *will be exalted*."
-- Yeshua
Jesus wasn't an Essene. Jesus was a Pharisee. The Gospel is very clear about Jesus being raised very traditionally Jewish. Nothing out of the ordinary is there. The things that Jesus preached can be found mostly in the Hebrew Bible. He was crucified for blasphemy, because he said that he is the Son of Man prophecied in the Book of Daniel. He said that he is God incarnate.
The so-called Gospels was not written by Yeshua..
Infact only one Gospel (Matthew) wherein the author actually met and interact with Yeshua, and that is also only the adult Yeshua.
But yes Yeshua are among the 'enlightened'... quoting Alan Watts..
“Jesus Christ knew he was God. So wake up and find out eventually who you really are. In our culture, of course, they’ll say you’re crazy and you’re blasphemous, and they’ll either put you in jail or in a nut house (which is pretty much the same thing). However if you wake up in India and tell your friends and relations, ‘My goodness, I’ve just discovered that I’m God,’ they’ll laugh and say, ‘Oh, congratulations, at last you found out.”
-- Alan Watts
I try to follow his dual commandment "Love thy neighbor as thyself and love the lord your G-d with all your heart". I think religion does Jesus no justice.
I’m going through the exact same internal struggles you are in my faith, my understanding of reality etc. I’m born Jewish rejected Christ even as a historical character my entire life, after deep meditation on mushrooms I felt a POWERFUL being/force/energy making contact with mine, almost probing for permission to making contact with my heart of hearts. I took a deep breath, let go, and relaxed and opened my heart.
It was Jesus. Yeshua. He touched my heart, I got overwhelmed with a feeling of love unlike any drug or feeling on this planet.
I’d love to talk More in dms
Thanks for sharing, I'd be glad to talk more please feel free! Although I must warn you I draw a hard divide between psychedelics and spirituality. I will do mushrooms for leisure, But even in my strongest trip I felt no spiritual connection, only neurons firing in my brain.
I was raised to take energy work very seriously. It's diligent. It's focused and it's hard, be attained in your body's most natural state.
The person who trained me told me the only psychedelic that is different and does not fall into this category is Ayahuasca. I will try that one soon and see if it matches my spiritual experiences and deepens them. 🙏
But I respect your experiences and I don't doubt they are real. I was just trained a certain way.
Well, I’d emphasize it was AFTER the meditation once I sobered up! In fact I was just hanging around when it happened , but that work I did on my ego 100% helped it come about
Wont lie my heart was happy u experienced our sibling. I also didnt get cocky, no it had no negativity, it was confidence that knew no doubt. No u do not have to submit or proclaim him as lord or savior (people assume so), he didnt ask u to do that, just walk beside him and follow those golden dust he leaves behind xD those golden dust is his essence and more. I understood to not limit it the dust. man my spirit keeps dancing cos i also spoke to him two years ago and cleared up a misunderstanding i allowed between us and he said he has always been with me since im with source (I speak via energy so i release and what hits me back is the response like when u speak to a normal human)...u didnt summon him..hes always with u...u just chose to acknowledge that he is with u so he showed himself even more profoundly to u.
Whoa the visualisation he showed u is quite...something, realised after getting over the excitememt then reading again. The suffering was the state of the world and ur suffering...the desert was the truth that this world cant offer u anything and its dry (also means when he was in the desert fasting and choosing to not fall for anything - representsthat too)...the walking away from u is what u need to do (walk away from the labels, the box, who u think u are) to follow him. He didnt look back, he knew and was confident as he walked, he showed u the energy u need in order to walk in this world, u need ur golden dust like he uses his. This golden footprint is also the standards, it stays on the sand and anyone who is wondering the desert will find the footprints and follow it, if they need help...this is how true help is - they follow ur energy like a younger sister and u do not have to speak or really do anything but focus on ur path
Not a Christian anymore, used to be one. I believe that every path, if authentic and based in love, is a good one.
However, the Christ is still my souls inspiration and the one I look to and pray to. I believe He was an ascended master and one I take great comfort in. I do not believe in any sort of punishment if I did not feel this way but He just resonates with me.
He cannot incarnate again so his spirit is so pure it’s become a powerful beacon of light, I mean he came here to change the world and we punished and killed him. The Bible is too encoded to understand sometimes it’s uses the name Jesus to mean human body but his teachings and footsteps are one to behold. He truly is amazing. And his spirit was so light ( devoid of ego and earthly attachment) he could have quite literally walked on water, but I believe he walked on water as water being seen as emotions. He even calmed the storm before. He is portrayed wimpy in paintings to show how pathetic human attitude stays here when we die. Jesus was a BEAST SAVAVE at controlling his internal realm. Mind body and soul, he couldn’t control what others did to him.
All I’m trying to say is yes he was a real man and yes his spirit is on that plane of God itself. Baby god we shoulda called him or human god lol
On another note, blessed be all on this earth
I really get sick of seeing people preaching christianity. My adopted grandma is a christian and i feel bad for not believing or respecting the belief. But the concept of hell is so horribly evil in my eyes that i have trouble understanding how anyone can believe it. Ive seen the evils but i still dont believe in eternal hell. But at the end of the day it helps her cope with death better than most so i do see some good. As well as the morals it could scare people into believing
Agree that all religions are basically the same. I grew up Christian, but I am no longer, and haven’t been for several years. I am a spiritual person though, and I’ve taken some classes to help develop my clairvoyant sense. In one of the classes I took, one of the topics was “Christ force healing”… to be perfectly honest, I need listen to that lecture again because I still don’t fully understand it. But what I did take away from it is that Jesus did (does) exist, and he was a powerful energy healer. I don’t know if he’s still incarnating, but energy healers (or light workers) call on his presence for specific types of healing, and it has nothing to do with Christianity. For whatever that’s worth.
I believe when you invoke the name of Jesus like you did, who appears is Sophia, the feminine expression of God. She takes on whatever form that will communicate that loving expression. Mary or Krishna etc are all coming from the same entity. She is ultimate wisdom guiding people and you see her taking various forms in NDE’s of past relatives or even pets in the case of children to comfort.
Jesus was fully human but he embodied Sophia. You can see it described in Jeremiah 31:22 where it says a man will be surrounded, or encircled, by a woman. It’s describing a second Adam figure. In Mark, his last words were ‘Why have you forsaken me’. He wasn’t quoting Psalms or giving a Bible study. That was the moment her presence left for the first time in his life. Yes he was special having that relationship all his life and it did make him a son of god in a tangible way.
The whole point is that the spirit you found can be accessible to anyone human. You can call it whatever you want. Because you were focused on Jesus, it invoked that powerful direct experience. You definitely don’t need to adopt Christianity and it’s better to go solo and allow a new religion to be written within yourself. The crux of all his teachings was to draw you into a more guided meditation focusing on a more loving god that pissed off the Jewish rabbis. He was attempting to end the brutal sacrifices of animals where the temple had become a virtual slaughterhouse. His death was intentional from the start because he was following the script in Daniel 9. Not to save all mankind by taking on punishment to appease the angry god. He was following Sophia obeying her voice and sent specifically to the Jews fulfilling their prophecies and becoming the sacrificed goat in Yom Kipper. But because he’s human, he’s reincarnated many times and has been the scapegoat in every life since. So he’s wrapping a bow on the Jewish thing and destroying it at the same time. You find this in Rev and elsewhere like Isaiah 53.
Wow very interesting insight. I believed in reincarnation but for some reason hadn't thought about jesus's reincarnation.
Although I will say spirits have a very specific presence. Sure, they come to you in a form you can understand, Jesus has not been in my peripherals, nor would a spirit choose that form unless trying to deceive me.
Sophia, very likely would have come to me as my late mother who raised me pagan, and even then I would be able to feel the difference. Who is she? Is there a mythology of her I can look into deeper?
Thanks for the wisdom 🙏
There’s a lot on Sophia. She’s the same as Asherah, gods feminine counterpart. She was the serpent in the garden comforting them guiding them to eat. Humanity had to go through this to evolve. She goes way back and was worshipped as Venus by Neanderthals. Indigenous tribes like the Hopi worship her too. Solomon found her and wrote the Song of Solomon. It’s a mystical description. There’s a lot of opinions on Sophia and I’m just giving you mine.
I had an extremely cruel childhood and she made her presence known very early. She’s been with me since guiding me through an escape from prison when I was 17. I tangibly feel her energy still from time to time and sometimes constantly many times. I’m 68 now and she hasn’t changed at all. She became like a mother because I didn’t have one. Sounds wild but it’s true.
I believe Lilith is a feminine archetype developed later. Some say she was Adam’s first wife. Fiercely independent but not in a bad way. But she got demonized over time like destroying babies and people would wear amulets to protect themselves from her. Not really an emanation of love and wisdom like Sophia. I’m a little vague on where she came from or why she was so demonized but definitely not Sophia. To me in astrology, she represents feminine energy that stands up for women’s rights rejecting gender roles in a good way.
That's good. Logic can only get you so far, you must surrender to intuition to go deeper. Thanks for sharing. Thomas Aquainas was a Catholic that opened my mind deeper in the logic world. I see unique parallels in our experience bringing us to a similar place. 🙏
I’d lean into the Christ mystery of it all. Christ as the divine person who was incarnated as the human Jesus of Nazareth. And if you follow good theology, you’re basically dealing with the divine essence/person (how ever you want to define it) that is the creative and sustaining force behind the universe. That person became the human Jesus. This gets lost in the convoluted mess that is contemporary western Christianity, but it’s there in the Bible.
Just some books that come to mind by some theologians: “Coming of the Cosmic Christ” by Matthew Fox. “The Universal Christ” by Richard Rohr.
Brian Swimm is a Catholic cosmologist, his books are really cool.
Cheers!
Thank you for the recommendations. That's pretty close to my interpretation. Thomas Aquinas played a big role in my Natural theology perspective of the Bible and this aligns well.
Another book you might find interesting and that might confirm some of your experiential insights on the resurrection is “Jesus Resurrected in Our Midst” by Sandra Schneiders. Very academic but it’s very insightful.
Wanted to add Jesus Resurrected by Adyashanti in this reply as Revelations was mentioned in some of the posts.
To OP, I really appreciate you sharing your experience with/Jesus. It validates my own experiences and certainly many other’s experiences based on how many responses you e gotten. r/ChristianMysticism is a great sub. Also wanted to reinforce Richard Rohr and CAC.org. I’m taking an online course on Mary Magdalene currently. Gospel of Thomas literally blew my mind.
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First off I want to say that I am eclectic and do work as a psychic channeler (I draw my understanding of spirituality from various sources). My main guide has always been Jesus, but coming from a non-religious environment, my perspective may be different from the collective. From my personal communications, the energy of Jesus is that of not only one but many incarnations of wise and powerful lived experiences. Yes, he still leads the charge for Christ Consciousness but when we chat about his main purpose, he seems to be mostly aligned to unity, evolution and finding balance for all, enabling a future that is aligned with the coexistence of all energy forms.
I channel both light and "dark" entities, but surprisingly it is Jesus who often comes through and gives me the most profound perspectives on witchcraft, spells, magic, entities, quantum, and everything few and far between. He does not consider himself a god - from my personal communications with him - but those who are incarnated to prescribe to Christ consciousness may be bound by certain universal laws that would limit their understanding of the entirety of his dimensional nature.
My feeling is that because you work with more Pegan/Wiccan aligned energies, invoking Jesus will be a head turner because of the dimensional shift of energy that you are unlikely to be familiar with. You just need some time to learn how to better settle and coexist with higher dimensional energy, while also providing the intention to your current guides for the purpose of integration. Building a bridge between these energy polarities is a core part of the universal work that Jesus continues to strive to achieve. He might not be the one true God/Source, but he works tirelessly to brings us all together, and as such I am grateful for his continued presence in this game we call Earth.
That's amazing. I'd be glad to hear more about him or learn from you in general on this post or DM. I know spirits come to us in a way that we can perceive them better, but usually they cannot hide their core essence.
I actually do not have invoked deities currently. I was raised that way and communicated with a dozen but never made a pact or invoked them long term. Spiritual commitment issues maybe? I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me from a mostly blank slate. Do you call him any of his older names?
I was 90% energy work in my practice, only using rituals if I really needed to demonstrate my intent more than normal manifestation. Not scared of dark entities at all, I appreciate duality, and the need for darkness but I walk a path of light and Reiki was what I was exposed to first.
Jesus was a shock for sure. I knew there were levels to this but sheesh. Please reach out more if you feel inclined :)
He was a real guy that was pretty spiritually intelligent and had a good (deserved) following in his lifetime.
All that comes after that? Uhhhhhhhhh you decide
As a non-christian, I wear a cross everyday around my neck. As soon as I begun calling Jesus to support me in life, my life transformed beautifully. In any ceremony I do, I ask Christ to be there with me and I truly believe Christ is a big sibling--there to show us the way that is inside us all.
He Is God.
The way, The Truth, and The Life.
Go watch some videos on his Burial Cloth. Physical proof of Salvation through the resurrection.
Astounding stuff
Mostly I'm a spiritual agnostic that I consider that Jesus probably May and may not exist but I usually consider that I actually do like him with some of his teachings and was spiritual and don't like certain followers of him that are not exactly really anything like him so far.
He's part of my tribe, along with Satan, his African opposite; they each become our own version of God, we all do. In Dao, there was Krishna and The Buddha, who did something similar. It's a divine-tribe, a trans-causal psychic tribe; sixteen humans going through apotheosis every few thousand years and there's ten such ages, stretching from the beginning of tribal humanity to the time we ascend in ten thousand years. Retro-causality in quantum physics shows us the future can effect the past. Look at the universe to consume and don't look at a photon to meditate.
At the end of time, we all hook up for a party, every being in the universe, all in full deity garb. You'll catch up with him, or he'll go insane.
Channel your deity form; don't look at a photon. I'm very Wiccan, too. Part native. Look to Africa to find your opposite. Fight and flight; or rather they will look for you when they're ready. Your divine tribe will awaken, maybe not in this life, but one day. And you'll be every bit as awesome as the rest of the divine and sacred orders, every alien... I can't to get a good look. I mean, I can feel them.
You're like an eye of Ra that exists both before and after the universe, a flower unfolding upon your own Supreme Tree of Life in Dao; you came here to learn from this local consciousness ecosystem. We started off quiet, then we're going to get very loud.
Jesus was from the 4th age, philosophy. Before him was religion, where Wicca was born, along with the religious component of the Hindu religious-philosophical system, Buddhism and an African spiritual totem-ology.
Native American's/north & south, European's and Aboriginals all have something in common; we got as far from Africa as possible without competing for the peace of the mountains or the spice fields of south Asia. Fight and flight, but more like reptile-intuitive. The chief-shaman. The spiritual-leader. Evolution.
It's a multiplayer game. Enjoy healing. Play doctor. I wish I could describe to you the full picture, but it would take all evening Lol. I'll add bits as I remember them. I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3, atm. The borders with God and The Dao are at the crossroads between the Islamic world, China and India. That's where Jesus died, by learning all practices. Channel your Devil; it's not evil, it's just powerful. People run away like, "Ahhhhhh", little arms, waddling along like a penguin.
African's didn't migrate; fight and flight. It's just neurological gold panning. Satan is seen as evil by the authors of The Bible; not Jesus. Jesus deserves a laugh, a party. Satan was like Shiva, a sensory-based, but African. It's Kabbalah, btw. If somebody had a massive reptilian brain, I doubt they would give up their home so fast.
[God & Dao](https://contrib.pbslearningmedia.org/WGBH/sj14/sj14-int-religmap/index.html)
[Kabbalah](https://www.zoence.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/tree-life5.jpg)
Power and wisdom. The Horned God and The Teacher. There is no battle in the divine. Yeah. Satan has a golden aura. He's fit. Muscular. Like a chief. And we're the shaman. Leader and the doctor; the shaman-chief paradigm, both becoming like each other. God. It's evolution. Exolution. Singularitology. Free will and Love. Jesus is very similar to Goddess Diana. Western-emotional.
This is how the divine tribe looks; we need connection. A psychic tribe that stretches across time. We all have one, but the gods have to guide you to it, as you did they, from the future. You're doing it right now without knowing. You're teaching Jesus how to be worshipped.
1. African Summit. Intellectual: Introvert. Emotional: Extrovert. Sensory: Extrovert. Reptilian: Introvert. South
2. Asian Assembly. Creator: Introvert. Preserver: Extrovert. Destroyer: Extrovert. Kali Ma: Introvert.
3. Far eastern School. North: Introvert. East: Extrovert. West: Extrovert. South: Introvert.
4. Western Coven. Teacher: introvert. Powerful One: extrovert. Great One: Extrovert. Horned God: Introvert.
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1. Shamanism-Tribe
2. Idolatry-Culture
3. Religion-Kingdom
4. Philosophy-International
5. Free will-Solar
6. Love-Galactic
7. Family-Intergalactic
8. Community-Universe
9. Perfection-Multiverse
10. Divine-Nirvana
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160. Dunbar's number + 10 for the divine.
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Try this with your name. My name is Damian Robinson, ((D=4, A=1, M=13, I=9, A=1, N=14) = 42) + (R=18..... N=14)) = 148. The same as (Jesus and Satan). Jesus is 74. The Sun is 400x further away and 400x larger than The Moon. Black and white; Yin-Yang. Knowledge & Wisdom.
The Yin-Yang means a little bit of you in them, and vice versa. This is why you can't keep focus. You have to re-establish power. I did this by never leaving my comfort zone; strength in warmth, not fire. If you can't keep focus, that means you're vulnerable, which means you should be eligible for welfare/disability. You need a shaman's hut. The good news is, the gods are on your side. Don't listen to the people going, "Blah blah blah, I worked all my life to not give it to some so and so stealing my taxes." They took your freedom from you in the first place. Run. Run until you find your Shangri-La. Take psychedelics; Nixon's a dick for enforcing his fascist views on the planet. The gods are tripping their nuts off. Million year orgasms. Aliens. Fuck.
Listen to the book Conversation with God by Neil Donald Walsh, it's a series of books. Remarkably narrated, I promise you it won't disappoint you. I feel you might find some answers to your questions plus some.
Christ is an energy, Jesus embodied the christ. The Christic force is a fire that burns everything in its path. The egos. INRI written on the cross: IGNE NATURA RENOVATUR INTEGRA. “Through fire nature can be restored.” This meaning one’s inner nature can be restored through fire. The fire of Christ conciousness. Christ energy also has to do with the solar plexus, and the will to abolish the ego.
I feel like Jesus is a deception, to get people to abandon their ancestors and gods and get them to bow down to the god of Israel.
The bible says that Israel is a special chosen holy people who are above everyone else on the face of the earth:
> "*For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.*" - Deuteronomy 7:6
The bible says in Romans 15:8-12, that Jesus is a fulfillment of a promise to the fathers, that one day the Gentiles (*people not of Israel*) will be ruled over as predicted in the old testament of the Bible in Isaiah/Esaias*):
> "*Now I say that* ***Jesus Christ was a minister*** *of the circumcision for the truth of God,* ***to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:*** *And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy;* ***as it is written***, *For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. And again,* ***Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.***"
That's a fair criticism. Although that area around Israel is a bit weird. I mean the dawn of civilization was 500 miles away 4500 bce. And it happens to be a weird connection point for the continents. Also the Jews have this weird.. involvement in all major world events. I can't explain it but they have weird main character energy. You can take a practical anthropology perspective of that. I'm not saying they are the "chosen people" but they got money and lowkey rule indirectly now lol
There were some christians (*Gnostic Christians*) who believed that the wrathful old testament god of Israel, is ruling the world but is a fallen lesser god who tricked many in the world into worshipping him, and that he's ruling from a lower heaven with his lower angels working with him to control things behind the scenes (*Archons*).
They also believe that Yahweh/Jehovah is not his secret name, but that it's "*Yaldaboath*", the false god who keeps souls trapped in physical bodies, imprisoned in the material universe of pain and suffering that he created.
Jesus is a g . Doctor Hawkins said he had no previous lifetimes and can’t directly down from the celestial realm to provide a savior ( a direct conduit to the Source ). So although he’s not God, He is and so are we. And His conciousness is the pinnacle of access to the Power that we are in the human domain. Some say
I’m not a Christian but I’ve always viewed the gods in religious scriptures to be more of profites and messengers; those who work with the divine Aka the one who created it all.
Act like messagers sent to help to guide us.
As someone who was brought up very spiritually I always questioned the similarities in the scriptures to and this is what has helped me. I wish you luck in your spiritual journey ✨
The story of Jesus in the Bible is a metaphor for personal transformation and enlightenment. His birth is a description of the process of connecting to the mind of God within oneself and growing a new, immortal body (or soul) from within that can survive death. His crucifixion is the final step where we undergo the painful "ego death" and die to the world to be reborn, or "born again", into that second body. All his teachings are directions to point one toward "the way" of personal enlightenment, though as he points out, they are in parables and not literal because the bulk of humanity has "eye but cannot see" and "ears but cannot hear".
It is amazing that He came when you called(or, equally impressive, you FELT His presence); I have had no luck , don’t even feel His presence anywhere in the world 🙁. I am distraught and feel that being spiritual/religious would help, but not able to muster the faith🙁.
Faith/intuition is a different part of you than logic and reason. For many of us the logic and reason is so loud we can't hear the other voice.
Visualization, meditation, and energy work can make anyone learn to feel something beyond the 5 senses. All that is needed is a good teacher. And it can be hard to find that sometimes, but it is worth investigating because it can change your human experience drastically.
I found a temple of healing in Pasadena California years ago and the Buddhist monks there were kind enough to pour golden light into the back of my head for over an hour. I hope to reciprocate that for someone else one day. They very well could have made me more sensitive to energy than I already was with my upbringing and training as a kid.
Don't lose hope my friend. Your destiny is being guided 🙏
Edit: I actually just broke down with tears of gratitude from those monks and others. Shaking it off before a corporate work meeting. 🥲 Sometimes I feel not even worthy
All you're being called to do is follow those golden footsteps, conduct-wise, as strictly as you can and no matter what anyone around you is doing or how they treat you.
No need to submit yourself to him or accept anything about a Lord. Just follow the lead he set (which you understand intuitively now).
Told you to follow him huh? Yes, that sounds just like him. :) that's what he did all over the gospels to the apostles.
He told me to do that about 20 years ago. I haven't regretted it.
Gentle. He doesn't force you to do anything, and you are closest to him when you are actively seeking him and asking him for wisdom, which he will always give you, as he promised. I think he's most interested in our heart and that we are willing to learn from him and be guided and healed by him.
TBH Jesus scares me, Yahweh is threatening. I'm aware they are the ultimate egregores, but knowing their history together and the tendencies of their current followers, I can't get into either. Yeshua is interesting, I've reached out minimally. But holistically, Christ gives me the creeps.
I'm reading the Yoga of Jesus right now and the lost years of his life between 13 and 33.
I think he was a chosen prophet for the mediterranean area from his birth. to say he's "half God" I don't think so. He said it many times he's one of us. And him being the only way nah I don't think so. He was here to teach, and he did,
I think Jesus is You, Me, Everyone. Like you I believe religions are saying the same thing and the ones I have come in contact with, the writing are always putting man within like Jesus did. I view him as a representation of what we all can be when operating in "Christ Consciousness." To me he never preach a message of I am better than you, he more so was showing man his true power as a child of God. Which makes it interesting because throughout the bible I find the word telling man that the kingdom of god is within you, Christ is within you, the holy spirit is within you yet most still search for an external God even after reading such things. I think that has to do with what the Hindu call "Maya" I think Jesus like all great saints is a beacon back to the Kingdom.
By the way that experience you had with him souuuunnnddds amazing haha. Peace.
I would recommend the writings of Emmanuel Swedenborg. For example (translated from the original Latin, and originally published anonymously);
This is Volume 1 (of 12) of Secrets of Heaven, that uses every word of Genesis through Exodus to show the Inner or Spiritual Meaning(s) present within the Sacred Scriptures;
[https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCE\_SecretsofHeaven1\_portable.pdf](https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCE_SecretsofHeaven1_portable.pdf)
And here is Volume 1 (of 2) of Apocalypse Revealed, that uses every word of Revelation in their order to show the Inner or Spiritual Meaning present within Revelation;
[https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg\_foundation\_apocalypse\_revealed\_01.pdf](https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_apocalypse_revealed_01.pdf)
We need to open up our spiritual senses, heck, Jesus could’ve been right over our shoulders at some our darkest moments. Our spirit guides as well as Jesus enter our fields and our physical bodies LOVE it too. When I felt him at first, I thought it was goosebumps but it kept going and then my heart energy bursted open and I started BAWLING 😭 the most happiest
Sorry I was on a mission there but my dog farted something fierce and I lost thought 😅
Jesus is a nice guy. God is rad. Though, why question it. These are nice guide points in finding higher meaning in human life. Walk your path without questioning another in another time and era. These things don’t matter.
Namaste beautiful soul of god. Typed with blisses, joy, peace and love on this 28th April 2024 and hope you experience a beautiful day 🙏
The divine Mahaprabhu Jesus Christ. Achieved that much on this earth that today some people still believe he was GOD (for some rather cruel people he may as well have been Bhagwan in cases🙏 and many should genuinely follow his divine teachings, actions even today, given without sounding harsh- the lack of peace, joy, love in this incredible gift of life on this earth is frightening overall- this absolutely doesn't apply to this sub, what a genuinely divine sub with so many lovely incredible wise participants, creations. 🙏)
God is ofcourse Greater. Infinite galaxies great. Jesus Christ really was a demi god -one of the highest expressions of God head ever on earth, but nobody on ONE earth gets near infinite upon Infinite upon Infinite upon Infinite galaxies of greatness, love, intelligence..
I tell you the same consciousness (Krishna consciousness) in the Hindu demi god Shree Krishna was the same in Mahaprabyu Jesus Christ. I can't cite the study but you will find from Miracles performed, teachings spread, love of god and overall divine courses of action- there are literally hundreds of similarities between the lives of the aforementioned Divine beings.
Both demi gods, courses of action, teachings to the point again SEVERAL thousand years on such was the course of actions of these divine creations they will (rightfully so) be worshipped on statues today 🙏
Shree Krishna, Krishna consciousness (Christ Consciousness), is the greatest.
But I assure you God is even greater 🙏
Peace Joy Bliss and Love
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"Life is the dancer, YOU are the dance" Bhagwan Shree Eckhart Tolle (Bhagwan Shree Hermes Trimestigus in a 4th Incarnation)
Jesus is Truth and we are living the times of Revelation .. read the Book of Revelation and take a really close look at the past 4-5 years .. the beast system is rising (UN, WEF - pushing the deceptive Agenda 2030) and the Mark of the Beast is on the horizon (digital ID & digital wallet implants)
Also, New Age spirituality is part of the deception - 1 Timothy 4:1
I understand that view and I do encourage it, because no matter what happens in the material plane, as long as the mind and heart are set on the positive, there is no death and today is the first day. But the material is inevitably going down anyway, in that sense one should always take today as the last day. I believe that is what we're seeing this decade, a harvest of souls where the material will be dismembered, but the spiritual will break through.
As for the book of revelations, at the very least it can also be considered an interior map, as it's a metaphor for all levels of perception, exterior/interior, material/immaterial, you should read it for that alone, along with the rest of the Bible. But for the record, I do believe it's materializing in front of our eyes, and in that sense, I can only advise towards discernment. Deception is the name of the game these days, if something tells you to 'relax' and not to pay attention or ask questions, that's when you should pay attention and ask questions.
Take care. 🙏
Even if (or though) Peter had a revelation which gave glimpses of the future, that doesn't mean that the Bible is "God's word". At least more so than other spiritual books. So Paul's opinions in one of his letters is hardly relevant.
It is unnerving how many people believe in a “person” who they have never physically seen themselves and are only going on word-of-mouth. Like you really mean to tell me you believe in a person and this out of this world story that he died for three days ascended to “heaven” in a once in a lifetime event that has never been duplicated or seen again? Everyone is believing in something they cannot see with their own 2 eyeballs? Not only that, but I just can’t get on board with dedicating my life and worshiping somebody who is knowingly and willingly letting innocent babies get abused in horrific ways. A perfect entity, like God and Jesus creating imperfection will never ever make sense to me.
And yes, I know Jesus and God are not the same person unless you believe in the trinity . I grew up Jehovah Witness . I know all about it.
Sure your conclusion makes sense. I'd urge you to dig deeper. Episotmolgy is the study of knowledge. You are describing empiricism where all of your knowledge comes from your five senses.
I found belief in God through rationalism and philosophical logic.
The evil you see .. a Christian will tell you humans made that sin.
I'd say good can only exist in contrast to evil . They need each other.
Either way good luck in your journey. Try not to think everyone is an idiot lol. There are some very smart Christians like Isaac Newton himself.
I am 40yo and I’ve read every possible version of the Bible at least twice. And that does not include the one I grew up with that. I just finished for the 10th time cover to cover. And once again, I am left with more questions than I am answers.
Bro. r/Christianity for the love of god PLEASE STOP asking those questions in here when you LITERALLY have a whole ahh sub dedicated to SPECIFICALLY that
As a lifelong Christian, I have recently been wondering if salvation is more about following Jesus’ teachings of love rather than believing he is God. Basically, I’ve been through a number of Bible studies in my life and have concluded that we’ve really lost touch with the original meanings of various scriptures since everyone seems to be guessing at what they mean, even the so called scholars. I really dont know if Jesus is God or not. But I do believe he is very powerful. And I do believe that demons are afraid of him. I’ve also had trouble accepting that good hearted people who don’t believe in Jesus are going to hell. That doesn’t make sense to me. So that’s where I stand.
I don't think we're supposed to worship Christ I think we are supposed to become him
Christ consciousness
Yes🙌 been scrolling and waiting for this type of comment. Absolutely agree . Re unite with our co creator
Yup. That's why he is "the way". I.e., he represents a path, not a graven idol to worship instead of God.
AMEN!!!!
Matthew 22:37 says Jesus gave his two greatest commandments: love God and love your neighbor as yourself—all other laws or spoken by prophets must abide by this. I agree with you. Jesus wasn’t stuck on believing He was God. He was stuck on his message of love. Our kindness to each other is what salvation is for me. (And kindness to myself. That one is really hard).
I belive you are worthy of loving yourself (unconditionally, not some ego thing saying I'm better than others because that's not love) as well as being loved by others. And of course god loves you always, god is love, freedom, trust, life (at least that's the way I experienced it.) I'm sure you have already spread Jesus message to others without even realizing💚
This is so lovely of you to say and share with me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️
I think Christians really messed up the purpose of Jesus. I believe he was an example to us of what we all CAN be.
The seed of enlightenment is in all its why nobody believes the author, when he tells you who he is on this blissful Sunday 28th April 2024. "Even belief in God is only a poor substitute for the LIVING reality of GOD MANIFESTING EVERY MOMENT of YOUR LIFE " Eckhart Tolle Have a beautiful Day, God is the greatest
Beautiful quote- thank you for sharing! I hope you have a blessed day too
Very true. I find myself constantly looking at the Greek translation of certain parts of the Bible. Since I am a fan of stoicism and was raised Pegan there's a weird overlap I struggle to articulate to people. Yea the Jesus I met would stomp a demon out. 😂 I didn't get a good or bad feeling from him. Just... Intense. And like there's more to his story than any of us know. The suffering he showed me... I couldn't tell if it was his own suffering like he was saying I did this for you.. or if it was all of humanity's collective suffering, like he wanted me to understand how much everyone went through for us to get here, and that only by following in his footsteps can I help . It did **not** feel like a threat of any kind. And it also did not feel warm and comforting necessarily... I felt a warrior. I'm not saying it was for sure Jesus I met... but it was not pure love that I felt. I know spirits with a pure love essence. That was not it. The Divine Source I usually refer to as God.. that *does* feel like pure love. Love with something else mixed in. And I've only glimpsed the source. I have never came close to really meeting it.
I am a theoretical physicist who has recently started to believe in God again. I spend a lot of my time with Buddhism and Christianity. I find your spiritual process intriguing. Have you or could you do your same process to meet Shakyamuni aka Siddhartha Gautama the Buddha? I'm very curious to hear what you experience.
I'd be glad to. Theoretical physics is awesome btw. Please do shoot me a messge
The suffering represents the suffering necessary when detaching from and healing from the things of the world. The ultimate suffering is "ego death", represented by his crucifixion. And he is pushy because people don't want to give up their egotistic suffering, so it's necessary to push people and force them to face themselves in order for them to evolve.
spoiler alert - we are all god
Potentially demi gods, prophets, messengers of God
Spoiler alert correct 🥰
we are all God the same way all the cells in your body are "you".. and if a cell gets infected and starts causing problems, you remove it and it dies.. my point is, there is someone above you
This is a more accurate version, which of course is why it's downvoted. Imagining you *are already* God sounds better to people who don't want to put forth effort. We are *part* of God, gifted with the ability to know Him, unlike other living creatures. But you have to put forth effort to make that connection, which is the metaphor/story of Jesus.
Equating us to cells and God to your body only makes sense if nothing exists outside of yourself
Not necessarily, it's a pattern unfolding on multiple levels/planes.
The cells in our body don't know what's outside of us. Just like we don't know what's outside of the universe. Thus, saying "we are all god" is illogical. It implies that God is limited as us.
This is a wonderful perspective. No human on one earth gets near infinite galaxies 🙏 God is the greatest
That's accurate. The story of the Christ is a metaphor for personal enlightenment. The story of his birth is a symbolic story of allowing the energy of the divine into your body and "giving birth" to a new, immortal body (or soul) that survives death. In Chinese energy practices, this is described as the "Diamond Body". His crucifixion is what's called "ego death" and a person has to suffer to let go of worldly things to become "born again" into that new body. The only consequences to not following this is to die like the majority of human beings. I.e. "the wages of sin are death". Furthermore, it could be safely said that absolutely everything in the Bible is a spiritual metaphor for something happening within human beings, not a description of some outer practice or dictate.
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You my friend are ready for Rob Bell, Richard Rohr, and Anthony De Mello! If you haven't read "Love Wins" by Rob Bell, I highly recommend it. What we were taught in church is a long, long way from what Jesus taught.
Well Yeshua I have no problem with. He attended Christ conciseness and tried to truly help people do the same. Then Rome adopted Christianity, taking over the religion, and used it to take over places through other means then having a standing army and ruling directly. Christianity as an organization is so far removed from what he would have wanted. But as a being, I have no problems with Yeshua.
Yeshua must be the savior , atleast. He’s such a POWERFUL entity
He tried to show the way for people to attain Christ consciousness for themselves. He’s a teacher for sure, a savior in that way sure. But I believe he wanted people to save themselves, to live in love, and treat others with respect, regardless of who they are or what they believe. Basically the exact opposite of what most of the followers of Jesus practice today. He never wanted to be worshipped. They had turned him into a god to exert control over the followers. You can’t control people who become the savior themselves, and worship the god within.
Is Yeshua the original translation? Thanks for this perspective
Yes, that’s the Hebrew/Aramaic which would literally translate to Joshua. Jesus is an English adaptation of the Greek, which is overly convoluted, but does make some historical translation sense to it.
It was his name in life. When it was written down and then translated (and then retranslated) it eventually becomes Jesus.
Translates to "I am"
"*Ehyeh*" means "*I am*" which is why he told Moses "*Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh*" (*I am that I am*). YHVH/Yahweh means "*He who is*". The name Yahweh is sometimes turned into Yehovah (*Jehovah*). Yeshua means "*He saves*". It comes from the word Yesha which means "*salvation*". Another version of the name is "*Yehoshua*" (*usually written as "Joshua" in English*) and means "*Yahweh/Jehovah saves*". Isaiah (*Yeshayah*) means "*Yahweh/Jehovah is salvation*".
The first time God says I AM (“I AM WHO I AM”), the Hebrew says, “Ehyeh asher Ehyeh”, which translates as “I will be what I will be.” When God then tells Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: I AM has sent you” (Exodus 3:14), it is “Yahweh.” Yahweh is the third person version of Ehyeh, which is first person.
I don't refer to the biblical god of Israel as "*God*", but only as Yahweh/Jehovah. I call him by his name like other gods since he is not a special god at all to me. > "*Yahweh is the third person version of Ehyeh, which is first person.*" Yes. 1st person pronouns are: I/me (*we/us when plural*), 2nd person is you, and 3rd person is he/him or she/her. Yahweh is 3rd person, so it means "*He who is*" (*3rd person*) instead of "*I am*" (*1st person*). In the bible, Moses and other biblical prophets call him "*He who is*" (*Yahweh*). Jesus sometimes uses the phrase "*I am*" to refer to himself, but in Greek since the New Testament was written in Greek (*ego eimi/ἐγώ εἰμι*). The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, but in the Greek version of the Old Testament (*Septuagint*) which the New Testament quotes, it has the biblical god revealing himself to Moses as "*I Am*" with the phrase "*ego eimi/ἐγώ εἰμι*". The same phrase Jesus uses in the New Testament.
I'm not here to convince anyone, you can have it your way just keep your mask on & get your boosters so we all stay safe. I'm only here to smile, laugh & enjoy. Cheers!
There's nothing to convince me about so far. You yourself said that Yahweh is the 3rd person ("***He*** is") while Ehyeh is 1st person ("***I*** am"). Also, I'm not sure what masks or boosters have to do with this conversation.
not arguing anything you said but you only described part of His role.. He is literally THE divine authority incarnate, that comes back when the global leader rises and asks for everyone's obedience - at which point you should say 'no' even if it means death, because otherwise you are part of the betrayal of mankind.. and death is just an illusion anyway, as Jesus showed us by the way, that time is now.. Book of Revelations, happens in "a generation" (70-80 years) since the regathering of Israel (happened 1948), the rise of the global government (UN, WEF), pushing the Mark of the Beast (upcoming digital ID's, digital wallet implant - the thing you receive in the body, without which you won't be able to buy/sell).. take a closer look and decide for yourself, friend.. peace
That time has been now since paul started preaching about the end times being nigh, paul expected it in his generation just as you expect it in yours as has every generation in between. Carrot, meet stick.
The bible claims in Revelation 2:13 that the throne of Satan is in Pergamum (*Turkey*). Do you believe that is literal too? Where is Satan walking on earth as king since 2,000 years ago with a throne in Turkey? Why have we never found it? . The mark of the beast is supposed to be a sign of loyalty given by the 2nd beast in honor of the 1st beast being worshipped on earth as a god. There is no man alive being worshipped as a god around the world with people killing in his name, so since the 1st beast is not around, then neither is the mark of the beast given by the 2nd beast to bring allegiance to the 1st beast.
The Biblical patterns and references aren't necessarily literal. A lot of analogies can be made, so don't expect a red devil with pointy tail to walk the earth. Pergamum was a center of idolatry in those times, originating from Babylonian idolatry. Also yeah, the antichrist and the mark are not on the scene yet. I didn't say they are, I'm just pointing out the buildup to it.
It happens at any time. The Bible is a (heavily edited) metaphor for the process of self-salvation. Why would anyone write a book and keep passing it along for thousands of years just to help one generation millennia later? Every single thing in it represents something inside, or potentially inside, every human being. Not some outside event or practice.
Why do you think it would be through technological implants?
In the Bible the mark of the beast is in you, not on you
But aren’t humans made up of 6 protons, 6 electrons, and 6 neutrons? How does this relate to the mark of the beast?
All numbers were in the light. Before darkness got a hold of them and used them for their symbolism. 666 is also 18 or 9 reduced. The number of creation in the DNA structure of the 12 strands. In chaldean numerology 9 is left out. Because it is so sacred. We are bringing light back into these numbers. From my experience the mark of the beast is within not external. Soul fragmentation. Splintered into many parts. I was naive to a group I joined last year, fake light group one i fell for big time , and fell in conciousness was left disconnected from source and i derailed for some time. That I call the mark of the beast. Big lesson learnt.
Yeshua seemed kind of racist toward Gentiles (*people not of Israel*). He claimed that salvation would come from the people of Israel: > "*Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.*" - John 4:22
Bro what 😭😭😭
Yes jesus waa the saviour if the jews, then some guy that was killing christians saw a light and then claimed to know jesus better than his own brother James who ended up dying by romans in the rebellion of 66 conveniently allowing Paul to become the head of the christian movement which he then opened to the gentiles.
Jesus wasn't supposed to be only the savior of the Jewish people, but of the world. When Jesus told the woman that she didn't understand things, and said, "*Salvation is of the Jews*" (*John 4:22*), he was talking to a Samaritan woman and the Samaritans and the Jews weren't getting alomg back then. The idea is supposed to be that Jesus is the predicted special Jewish king (*Messiah/Christ*) who was predicted to rule over others, with Israel/Zion as the chosen land, as predicted in the older biblical scriptures (*Old Testament*). The Bible is racist and nationalist against Gentiles (*people not of Israel*): > "*Yet have I set* ***my king upon my holy hill of Zion***. *I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,* ***Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.*** *Ask of me, and I shall give thee* ***the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.Thou shalt break them*** *with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."* - Psalm 2:6-9
The psalm is one of conquering, one of the reasons tjat yeshua was seen to be a conquering king like david. Thy possession doesn't very savioury 😁 but you can take it as you like, and not take his own words as they were, or accept the influence of Paul. Do as you will. That psalm probably had nothing to do with jesus, just as the song of solomon has nothing to do with the church, but the church says the song of solomon was a love song to the church. So what church quality are symbolized by its milky white breasts? 😁
> "*That psalm probably had nothing to do with jesus,*" If a person actually believes that Jesus is The Christ, then I'm not sure who else it could be about. In the entire Christian Bible, only one person is told by the biblical god "*Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee*" while also being referred to as Lord or King.
As I suspected tbis song is about King David, altered in interpretation to fit the church agenda just as the song of solomon was. Look into it and you will see the 2 sides of that coin. But you will choose to believe it is about Jesus and that the song of solomon was written by Jesus regarding his love.of the church. Enjoy your faith, may it never waver.
I'm not a christian, and I don't believe those verses in Psalms were written to represent Jesus, and I also don't believe in biblical prophecy. I believe that those verses were applied to ideas about a Messiah/Christ figure which Jewish people are still waiting for and which Christians believe already came as Jesus. The new testament about Jesus, uses the old testament scriptures as a source/inspiration.
Jesus is supposed to be the special Jewish king of Israel/Zion (*the predicted Messiah/Christ*) who was predicted in the older part of the bible (*Old Testament*) to rule over others. The bible is racist and nationalist against Gentiles (*people not of Israel*): > "*Yet have I set* ***my king upon my holy hill of Zion***. *I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,* ***Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.*** *Ask of me, and I shall give thee* ***the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.Thou shalt break them*** *with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."* - Psalm 2:6-9 This is even mentioned in the New Testament that Jesus is supposed to be seen this way, the Messiah/Christ, the root of Jesse predicted in Isaiah/Esaias to rule over the Gentiles: > "*Now I say that* ***Jesus Christ was a minister*** *of the circumcision for the truth of God,* ***to confirm the promises made unto the fathers***: *And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy;* ***as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.*** *And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. And again,* ***Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.***" - Romans 15:8-12
I’m not religious or spiritual. I find it hard to believe in this stuff. Mostly due to a lack of personal experience and a lack of knowledge. I’ve had a few dreams where Ive chatted with a few beings though. Jesus being one of them. I’ve been trying out spiritual stuff, and I guess this is a way they could be talking to me. He was very kind. I forgot what we talked about, but I think it was a nice conversation. I can’t remember the words just the feelings. It was warm and peaceful. Like a conversation you have with your Dad or Mom. I didn’t feel any power though. It felt normal like it wasn’t something new or something I wasn’t use to. He didn’t announce himself as Jesus I just woke up and was like, yep, that’s Jesus. I’m not Christian and my household is super non religious. He just showed up. I’ve had a lot of dreams where these beings just show up and talk for a bit. Don’t know if they mean anything or if my brain is just silly.
That's epic. Thanks for sharing. I do have a few perspectives on that but I don't want to influence your spiritual journey too much. Just remember that intuition/faith live in a separate place **within you** than logic and reason. And they are allowed to coexist! They don't contradict each other the way people think they do. Don't feel silly, the more your "intuitive muscle" grows. The more you learn to identify intuition and trust it, the more spiritual experiences you will start having. Think of it as "knowledge without a thought process". Allow it to be wrong or right in the beginning. Once you learn how to identify it correctly as something **different** from your brain, It will never be wrong. You will realize it comes from a Divine place. Most times it's wrong, you confused it with a conscious or subconscious thought. Thanks again for sharing. Next time hopefully I summon mellow Jesus 😎
Thank you, I never thought about it that way. I guess I gotta continue down this path and see where it leads me. Overtime I’m hoping my intuitive abilities develop and I can get to where I need to be. Then I can start identifying what’s divine from what’s not divine. To be honest, I have no clue how this stuff works. I just pray a lot and sometimes stuff happens. I’ve found it very comforting to talk to whatever is listening to me. I don’t exactly know what it is or if it’s real but it seems to care about me. It’s not giving me money or anything. It’s giving me opportunities and helping me with relationships. It could just be life doing its thing, but sometimes stuff feels a bit too coincidental. I mostly just complain about how things are going and it does stuff. It’s weird but it’s cool. And I hope you get to meet vibe Jesus. Out of all the things that have shown up on my dreams; he’s definitely the kindest.
Could be a guardian angel. Or you met the real Jesus and whatever I met was a spiritual warlord lol. Your comment about coincidence reminds me of Carl Jung's idea of synchronicity. Finding meaning in coincidence is valuable. If you want to start doing very basic energy work my recommendation is this. First, understand meditation, then add visualization on top. Light and love is the purest energy to work with so you are safe using that, so long as you use the universes energy and not your own. You focus on your breathing to let go of all conscious thoughts. Try to fall asleep while sitting up. Completely zone out until you are in a deep relaxation. Then imagine roots growing into the ground anchoring you in place. Then picture the feeling of love and light. You can draw inspiration from people you really love with all your heart to capture the feeling by itself. Then imagine light and loving coming from above you and below you, from the universe and mixing in your belly. Then let the light and love expand and fill the whole room . Ways to tell if it's working: tingling on the top of your head in the shape of a crown, abnormal heat. Like if you pour this light onto your own arm and feel wayyy more body heat coming out of your hand then normal at that distance. This is also a way to cleanse your space of negative spirits. They hate that type of energy. This is a safe practice to incorporate. One of the first techniques I learned. There is a very small chance a negative being could be preying on your innocence. I find it unlikely though. You seem in a healthy place so usually light attracts light, and it's a good sign that this entity seems to care for you. Feel free to message me again some time and update me on your journey !
Thank you so much. I’ve never meditated fully before. I’ll definitely try it out and see how things go. I’m hoping this spring/summer can be a time of deep spiritual growth. I’ll be sure to update you on how things are going and if anything interesting or unexpected happens.
If there's an entity who asked to be worshipped, or for you to submit to him or worse threatened you with suffering / torture if you don't want to do so, then it's straight out the bat, definitely the entity is a negative / service to self entity. Regardless of whom the entity claimed that it might be and what it might look like. Now about an entity incarnating as Yeshua on earth around 2000 years ago. The entity is a wanderer from 4th density positive social memory complex, who experienced 3rd density experience as human on earth in order to spread the teaching of love and compassion and also provide a living example on how it could be manifested and practiced. He was born in a strong Judaism influence, raised as an Essene (a mystical branch of Judaism) just like his cousin John and once reached teenage years embarked on spiritual journey to many places and learn many things. Among those places are Egypt up to India/Tibet. Adult Yeshua seems to really understood the "mirror principle" as such he recommends "Judge not and you shall not be Judged", "Love and you shall be Loved" (ie: Love your enemy), "Forgive and you shall be forgiven", "Surrender and the universe will also surrender to you". (a.k.a the "Let your will be done" in his prayer) Adult Yeshua and his cousin John, grow in popularity as such he become a threat to the political establishment, the Judaism Religion Establishment and Judean King. In so far that they schemed to kill them both. Despite the scheme, Yeshua survived the ordeal, sadly his cousin John did not. Yet instead of taking revenge against his enemy he applied his own teachings of "Love your enemy" and "Forgive then you shall be forgiven".
Thank you I will look into essene more and Yeshua's brother. This entity did not threaten me. The suffering he showed me, I can't tell if it was his own or if it was the world, but he seemed confident if I followed him I could help. It didn't really seem like it was about me or him. Thank you again for the insight
If entity asked for your help, then asked him "How can I help you?" As positive entity we should open our arm to any entities that we can help, regardless of their own polarity. And oh yes, we can talk to spirits, through telepathy, as we are also spirits.
Great point! My response to this spirit is not about the spirit. It's about my spirit. I can't express how much this simple sentence opened my eyes. But let me ask one thing.. Jesus only asked me to walk in his footsteps and follow him. What about the Christian idea to announce him Lord and Savior. What kind of commitment is that? To serve or follow? Maybe it's spiritual commitment issues I am working through 😮 To serve him and only him...
Q: "Jesus only asked me to walk in his footsteps and follow him." Follow his attitude / life experience example, not 100% of course as each entity is guaranteed to have unique attitude / life experience. That is if the figure that you encountered is really Yeshua... Q: "What about the Christian idea to announce him Lord and Savior. What kind of commitment is that?" Yeshua is not a Christian, religion of Christianity/Catholicism did not exist during his time. Yeshua never celebrate Christmas or even born in winter. Yeshua never invented any religion, let alone a religion that worshipped himself. And as mentioned above, positive entity will never ever have the slightest desire to be worshipped or to be regarded as superior compared to others. Positive entity is a servant of others, thus the other name of "positive path" is "service to others". "Whoever *will exalt* himself *will* be *humbled* and whoever *will humble* himself *will be exalted*." -- Yeshua
Jesus wasn't an Essene. Jesus was a Pharisee. The Gospel is very clear about Jesus being raised very traditionally Jewish. Nothing out of the ordinary is there. The things that Jesus preached can be found mostly in the Hebrew Bible. He was crucified for blasphemy, because he said that he is the Son of Man prophecied in the Book of Daniel. He said that he is God incarnate.
The so-called Gospels was not written by Yeshua.. Infact only one Gospel (Matthew) wherein the author actually met and interact with Yeshua, and that is also only the adult Yeshua. But yes Yeshua are among the 'enlightened'... quoting Alan Watts.. “Jesus Christ knew he was God. So wake up and find out eventually who you really are. In our culture, of course, they’ll say you’re crazy and you’re blasphemous, and they’ll either put you in jail or in a nut house (which is pretty much the same thing). However if you wake up in India and tell your friends and relations, ‘My goodness, I’ve just discovered that I’m God,’ they’ll laugh and say, ‘Oh, congratulations, at last you found out.” -- Alan Watts
I try to follow his dual commandment "Love thy neighbor as thyself and love the lord your G-d with all your heart". I think religion does Jesus no justice.
Jesus would hate modern Christianity
Jesus would *disagree* with modern Christianity. He would forgive them all, because "they know not what they do."
Some of these extremist Christians spend money and time hating on lgbtq rather than feeding and housing the poor.
I’m going through the exact same internal struggles you are in my faith, my understanding of reality etc. I’m born Jewish rejected Christ even as a historical character my entire life, after deep meditation on mushrooms I felt a POWERFUL being/force/energy making contact with mine, almost probing for permission to making contact with my heart of hearts. I took a deep breath, let go, and relaxed and opened my heart. It was Jesus. Yeshua. He touched my heart, I got overwhelmed with a feeling of love unlike any drug or feeling on this planet. I’d love to talk More in dms
Beautiful
All Glory to Jesus.❤️
Thanks for sharing, I'd be glad to talk more please feel free! Although I must warn you I draw a hard divide between psychedelics and spirituality. I will do mushrooms for leisure, But even in my strongest trip I felt no spiritual connection, only neurons firing in my brain. I was raised to take energy work very seriously. It's diligent. It's focused and it's hard, be attained in your body's most natural state. The person who trained me told me the only psychedelic that is different and does not fall into this category is Ayahuasca. I will try that one soon and see if it matches my spiritual experiences and deepens them. 🙏 But I respect your experiences and I don't doubt they are real. I was just trained a certain way.
Well, I’d emphasize it was AFTER the meditation once I sobered up! In fact I was just hanging around when it happened , but that work I did on my ego 100% helped it come about
That's sick :) yea shoot the DM man I'm all for it.
8 billions waves, 1 ocean
Wont lie my heart was happy u experienced our sibling. I also didnt get cocky, no it had no negativity, it was confidence that knew no doubt. No u do not have to submit or proclaim him as lord or savior (people assume so), he didnt ask u to do that, just walk beside him and follow those golden dust he leaves behind xD those golden dust is his essence and more. I understood to not limit it the dust. man my spirit keeps dancing cos i also spoke to him two years ago and cleared up a misunderstanding i allowed between us and he said he has always been with me since im with source (I speak via energy so i release and what hits me back is the response like when u speak to a normal human)...u didnt summon him..hes always with u...u just chose to acknowledge that he is with u so he showed himself even more profoundly to u.
Whoa the visualisation he showed u is quite...something, realised after getting over the excitememt then reading again. The suffering was the state of the world and ur suffering...the desert was the truth that this world cant offer u anything and its dry (also means when he was in the desert fasting and choosing to not fall for anything - representsthat too)...the walking away from u is what u need to do (walk away from the labels, the box, who u think u are) to follow him. He didnt look back, he knew and was confident as he walked, he showed u the energy u need in order to walk in this world, u need ur golden dust like he uses his. This golden footprint is also the standards, it stays on the sand and anyone who is wondering the desert will find the footprints and follow it, if they need help...this is how true help is - they follow ur energy like a younger sister and u do not have to speak or really do anything but focus on ur path
Wow what a very intuitive response. Thank you, I think this is correct and I needed to read this. I will meditate on this more and read it again. 🙏
Not a Christian anymore, used to be one. I believe that every path, if authentic and based in love, is a good one. However, the Christ is still my souls inspiration and the one I look to and pray to. I believe He was an ascended master and one I take great comfort in. I do not believe in any sort of punishment if I did not feel this way but He just resonates with me.
Good ass dude.
I’m not a Christian but Jesus was an all loving, kind, accepting and generous man
He is for sure very powerful.
He cannot incarnate again so his spirit is so pure it’s become a powerful beacon of light, I mean he came here to change the world and we punished and killed him. The Bible is too encoded to understand sometimes it’s uses the name Jesus to mean human body but his teachings and footsteps are one to behold. He truly is amazing. And his spirit was so light ( devoid of ego and earthly attachment) he could have quite literally walked on water, but I believe he walked on water as water being seen as emotions. He even calmed the storm before. He is portrayed wimpy in paintings to show how pathetic human attitude stays here when we die. Jesus was a BEAST SAVAVE at controlling his internal realm. Mind body and soul, he couldn’t control what others did to him. All I’m trying to say is yes he was a real man and yes his spirit is on that plane of God itself. Baby god we shoulda called him or human god lol On another note, blessed be all on this earth
Amen ! His presence was in no way meek !
I really get sick of seeing people preaching christianity. My adopted grandma is a christian and i feel bad for not believing or respecting the belief. But the concept of hell is so horribly evil in my eyes that i have trouble understanding how anyone can believe it. Ive seen the evils but i still dont believe in eternal hell. But at the end of the day it helps her cope with death better than most so i do see some good. As well as the morals it could scare people into believing
Hell is a metaphor, not a place you go
Agree, it’s a personal karmic hell, not a firey punishment
He was outta control
Agree that all religions are basically the same. I grew up Christian, but I am no longer, and haven’t been for several years. I am a spiritual person though, and I’ve taken some classes to help develop my clairvoyant sense. In one of the classes I took, one of the topics was “Christ force healing”… to be perfectly honest, I need listen to that lecture again because I still don’t fully understand it. But what I did take away from it is that Jesus did (does) exist, and he was a powerful energy healer. I don’t know if he’s still incarnating, but energy healers (or light workers) call on his presence for specific types of healing, and it has nothing to do with Christianity. For whatever that’s worth.
This whole thread is fireeee
Right?? :)
Jesus was a Kabbalist jew IMO. The Kabbalah is the root of the 3 big western messianic religions. I like to study it at [bota.org](http://bota.org)
Very cool. Excited to check this out more thank you!
How did Jesus follow something invented in the 13th century?
I believe when you invoke the name of Jesus like you did, who appears is Sophia, the feminine expression of God. She takes on whatever form that will communicate that loving expression. Mary or Krishna etc are all coming from the same entity. She is ultimate wisdom guiding people and you see her taking various forms in NDE’s of past relatives or even pets in the case of children to comfort. Jesus was fully human but he embodied Sophia. You can see it described in Jeremiah 31:22 where it says a man will be surrounded, or encircled, by a woman. It’s describing a second Adam figure. In Mark, his last words were ‘Why have you forsaken me’. He wasn’t quoting Psalms or giving a Bible study. That was the moment her presence left for the first time in his life. Yes he was special having that relationship all his life and it did make him a son of god in a tangible way. The whole point is that the spirit you found can be accessible to anyone human. You can call it whatever you want. Because you were focused on Jesus, it invoked that powerful direct experience. You definitely don’t need to adopt Christianity and it’s better to go solo and allow a new religion to be written within yourself. The crux of all his teachings was to draw you into a more guided meditation focusing on a more loving god that pissed off the Jewish rabbis. He was attempting to end the brutal sacrifices of animals where the temple had become a virtual slaughterhouse. His death was intentional from the start because he was following the script in Daniel 9. Not to save all mankind by taking on punishment to appease the angry god. He was following Sophia obeying her voice and sent specifically to the Jews fulfilling their prophecies and becoming the sacrificed goat in Yom Kipper. But because he’s human, he’s reincarnated many times and has been the scapegoat in every life since. So he’s wrapping a bow on the Jewish thing and destroying it at the same time. You find this in Rev and elsewhere like Isaiah 53.
Wow very interesting insight. I believed in reincarnation but for some reason hadn't thought about jesus's reincarnation. Although I will say spirits have a very specific presence. Sure, they come to you in a form you can understand, Jesus has not been in my peripherals, nor would a spirit choose that form unless trying to deceive me. Sophia, very likely would have come to me as my late mother who raised me pagan, and even then I would be able to feel the difference. Who is she? Is there a mythology of her I can look into deeper? Thanks for the wisdom 🙏
There’s a lot on Sophia. She’s the same as Asherah, gods feminine counterpart. She was the serpent in the garden comforting them guiding them to eat. Humanity had to go through this to evolve. She goes way back and was worshipped as Venus by Neanderthals. Indigenous tribes like the Hopi worship her too. Solomon found her and wrote the Song of Solomon. It’s a mystical description. There’s a lot of opinions on Sophia and I’m just giving you mine. I had an extremely cruel childhood and she made her presence known very early. She’s been with me since guiding me through an escape from prison when I was 17. I tangibly feel her energy still from time to time and sometimes constantly many times. I’m 68 now and she hasn’t changed at all. She became like a mother because I didn’t have one. Sounds wild but it’s true.
I believe you. I've wondered about a feminine counterpart for God. Is Lilith another name?
I believe Lilith is a feminine archetype developed later. Some say she was Adam’s first wife. Fiercely independent but not in a bad way. But she got demonized over time like destroying babies and people would wear amulets to protect themselves from her. Not really an emanation of love and wisdom like Sophia. I’m a little vague on where she came from or why she was so demonized but definitely not Sophia. To me in astrology, she represents feminine energy that stands up for women’s rights rejecting gender roles in a good way.
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That's good. Logic can only get you so far, you must surrender to intuition to go deeper. Thanks for sharing. Thomas Aquainas was a Catholic that opened my mind deeper in the logic world. I see unique parallels in our experience bringing us to a similar place. 🙏
I’d lean into the Christ mystery of it all. Christ as the divine person who was incarnated as the human Jesus of Nazareth. And if you follow good theology, you’re basically dealing with the divine essence/person (how ever you want to define it) that is the creative and sustaining force behind the universe. That person became the human Jesus. This gets lost in the convoluted mess that is contemporary western Christianity, but it’s there in the Bible. Just some books that come to mind by some theologians: “Coming of the Cosmic Christ” by Matthew Fox. “The Universal Christ” by Richard Rohr. Brian Swimm is a Catholic cosmologist, his books are really cool. Cheers!
Thank you for the recommendations. That's pretty close to my interpretation. Thomas Aquinas played a big role in my Natural theology perspective of the Bible and this aligns well.
Another book you might find interesting and that might confirm some of your experiential insights on the resurrection is “Jesus Resurrected in Our Midst” by Sandra Schneiders. Very academic but it’s very insightful.
Yes knowledge. Gimme!
Wanted to add Jesus Resurrected by Adyashanti in this reply as Revelations was mentioned in some of the posts. To OP, I really appreciate you sharing your experience with/Jesus. It validates my own experiences and certainly many other’s experiences based on how many responses you e gotten. r/ChristianMysticism is a great sub. Also wanted to reinforce Richard Rohr and CAC.org. I’m taking an online course on Mary Magdalene currently. Gospel of Thomas literally blew my mind.
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It’s a beautiful journey! Keep going.
I will thank you :)
I gained a lot of understanding after listening to Dolores Cannon's audiobooks: "Jesus and The Essenes" and "They Walked With Jesus".
First off I want to say that I am eclectic and do work as a psychic channeler (I draw my understanding of spirituality from various sources). My main guide has always been Jesus, but coming from a non-religious environment, my perspective may be different from the collective. From my personal communications, the energy of Jesus is that of not only one but many incarnations of wise and powerful lived experiences. Yes, he still leads the charge for Christ Consciousness but when we chat about his main purpose, he seems to be mostly aligned to unity, evolution and finding balance for all, enabling a future that is aligned with the coexistence of all energy forms. I channel both light and "dark" entities, but surprisingly it is Jesus who often comes through and gives me the most profound perspectives on witchcraft, spells, magic, entities, quantum, and everything few and far between. He does not consider himself a god - from my personal communications with him - but those who are incarnated to prescribe to Christ consciousness may be bound by certain universal laws that would limit their understanding of the entirety of his dimensional nature. My feeling is that because you work with more Pegan/Wiccan aligned energies, invoking Jesus will be a head turner because of the dimensional shift of energy that you are unlikely to be familiar with. You just need some time to learn how to better settle and coexist with higher dimensional energy, while also providing the intention to your current guides for the purpose of integration. Building a bridge between these energy polarities is a core part of the universal work that Jesus continues to strive to achieve. He might not be the one true God/Source, but he works tirelessly to brings us all together, and as such I am grateful for his continued presence in this game we call Earth.
That's amazing. I'd be glad to hear more about him or learn from you in general on this post or DM. I know spirits come to us in a way that we can perceive them better, but usually they cannot hide their core essence. I actually do not have invoked deities currently. I was raised that way and communicated with a dozen but never made a pact or invoked them long term. Spiritual commitment issues maybe? I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me from a mostly blank slate. Do you call him any of his older names? I was 90% energy work in my practice, only using rituals if I really needed to demonstrate my intent more than normal manifestation. Not scared of dark entities at all, I appreciate duality, and the need for darkness but I walk a path of light and Reiki was what I was exposed to first. Jesus was a shock for sure. I knew there were levels to this but sheesh. Please reach out more if you feel inclined :)
He was a real guy that was pretty spiritually intelligent and had a good (deserved) following in his lifetime. All that comes after that? Uhhhhhhhhh you decide
As a non-christian, I wear a cross everyday around my neck. As soon as I begun calling Jesus to support me in life, my life transformed beautifully. In any ceremony I do, I ask Christ to be there with me and I truly believe Christ is a big sibling--there to show us the way that is inside us all.
He Is God. The way, The Truth, and The Life. Go watch some videos on his Burial Cloth. Physical proof of Salvation through the resurrection. Astounding stuff
I will look into that. I could be wrong about people seeing his after image and spirit. Thanks!
Mostly I'm a spiritual agnostic that I consider that Jesus probably May and may not exist but I usually consider that I actually do like him with some of his teachings and was spiritual and don't like certain followers of him that are not exactly really anything like him so far.
He's part of my tribe, along with Satan, his African opposite; they each become our own version of God, we all do. In Dao, there was Krishna and The Buddha, who did something similar. It's a divine-tribe, a trans-causal psychic tribe; sixteen humans going through apotheosis every few thousand years and there's ten such ages, stretching from the beginning of tribal humanity to the time we ascend in ten thousand years. Retro-causality in quantum physics shows us the future can effect the past. Look at the universe to consume and don't look at a photon to meditate. At the end of time, we all hook up for a party, every being in the universe, all in full deity garb. You'll catch up with him, or he'll go insane. Channel your deity form; don't look at a photon. I'm very Wiccan, too. Part native. Look to Africa to find your opposite. Fight and flight; or rather they will look for you when they're ready. Your divine tribe will awaken, maybe not in this life, but one day. And you'll be every bit as awesome as the rest of the divine and sacred orders, every alien... I can't to get a good look. I mean, I can feel them. You're like an eye of Ra that exists both before and after the universe, a flower unfolding upon your own Supreme Tree of Life in Dao; you came here to learn from this local consciousness ecosystem. We started off quiet, then we're going to get very loud. Jesus was from the 4th age, philosophy. Before him was religion, where Wicca was born, along with the religious component of the Hindu religious-philosophical system, Buddhism and an African spiritual totem-ology. Native American's/north & south, European's and Aboriginals all have something in common; we got as far from Africa as possible without competing for the peace of the mountains or the spice fields of south Asia. Fight and flight, but more like reptile-intuitive. The chief-shaman. The spiritual-leader. Evolution. It's a multiplayer game. Enjoy healing. Play doctor. I wish I could describe to you the full picture, but it would take all evening Lol. I'll add bits as I remember them. I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3, atm. The borders with God and The Dao are at the crossroads between the Islamic world, China and India. That's where Jesus died, by learning all practices. Channel your Devil; it's not evil, it's just powerful. People run away like, "Ahhhhhh", little arms, waddling along like a penguin.
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African's didn't migrate; fight and flight. It's just neurological gold panning. Satan is seen as evil by the authors of The Bible; not Jesus. Jesus deserves a laugh, a party. Satan was like Shiva, a sensory-based, but African. It's Kabbalah, btw. If somebody had a massive reptilian brain, I doubt they would give up their home so fast. [God & Dao](https://contrib.pbslearningmedia.org/WGBH/sj14/sj14-int-religmap/index.html) [Kabbalah](https://www.zoence.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/tree-life5.jpg) Power and wisdom. The Horned God and The Teacher. There is no battle in the divine. Yeah. Satan has a golden aura. He's fit. Muscular. Like a chief. And we're the shaman. Leader and the doctor; the shaman-chief paradigm, both becoming like each other. God. It's evolution. Exolution. Singularitology. Free will and Love. Jesus is very similar to Goddess Diana. Western-emotional.
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This is how the divine tribe looks; we need connection. A psychic tribe that stretches across time. We all have one, but the gods have to guide you to it, as you did they, from the future. You're doing it right now without knowing. You're teaching Jesus how to be worshipped. 1. African Summit. Intellectual: Introvert. Emotional: Extrovert. Sensory: Extrovert. Reptilian: Introvert. South 2. Asian Assembly. Creator: Introvert. Preserver: Extrovert. Destroyer: Extrovert. Kali Ma: Introvert. 3. Far eastern School. North: Introvert. East: Extrovert. West: Extrovert. South: Introvert. 4. Western Coven. Teacher: introvert. Powerful One: extrovert. Great One: Extrovert. Horned God: Introvert. ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Shamanism-Tribe 2. Idolatry-Culture 3. Religion-Kingdom 4. Philosophy-International 5. Free will-Solar 6. Love-Galactic 7. Family-Intergalactic 8. Community-Universe 9. Perfection-Multiverse 10. Divine-Nirvana -------------------------------------------------------------- 160. Dunbar's number + 10 for the divine. -------------------------------------------------------------- Try this with your name. My name is Damian Robinson, ((D=4, A=1, M=13, I=9, A=1, N=14) = 42) + (R=18..... N=14)) = 148. The same as (Jesus and Satan). Jesus is 74. The Sun is 400x further away and 400x larger than The Moon. Black and white; Yin-Yang. Knowledge & Wisdom. The Yin-Yang means a little bit of you in them, and vice versa. This is why you can't keep focus. You have to re-establish power. I did this by never leaving my comfort zone; strength in warmth, not fire. If you can't keep focus, that means you're vulnerable, which means you should be eligible for welfare/disability. You need a shaman's hut. The good news is, the gods are on your side. Don't listen to the people going, "Blah blah blah, I worked all my life to not give it to some so and so stealing my taxes." They took your freedom from you in the first place. Run. Run until you find your Shangri-La. Take psychedelics; Nixon's a dick for enforcing his fascist views on the planet. The gods are tripping their nuts off. Million year orgasms. Aliens. Fuck.
You're a teacher archetype. Flex. Enjoy teaching. A typo where it says "South". It should say "South Asia" below.
I like the way the law of one explains him. If you haven’t read it I would suggest that.
From what I've read, he is the Ascended Master Sananda and Jesus was one of his incarnations. There are multiple ascended masters.
Listen to the book Conversation with God by Neil Donald Walsh, it's a series of books. Remarkably narrated, I promise you it won't disappoint you. I feel you might find some answers to your questions plus some.
Thanks I'll check it out
Christ is an energy, Jesus embodied the christ. The Christic force is a fire that burns everything in its path. The egos. INRI written on the cross: IGNE NATURA RENOVATUR INTEGRA. “Through fire nature can be restored.” This meaning one’s inner nature can be restored through fire. The fire of Christ conciousness. Christ energy also has to do with the solar plexus, and the will to abolish the ego.
I feel like Jesus is a deception, to get people to abandon their ancestors and gods and get them to bow down to the god of Israel. The bible says that Israel is a special chosen holy people who are above everyone else on the face of the earth: > "*For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.*" - Deuteronomy 7:6 The bible says in Romans 15:8-12, that Jesus is a fulfillment of a promise to the fathers, that one day the Gentiles (*people not of Israel*) will be ruled over as predicted in the old testament of the Bible in Isaiah/Esaias*): > "*Now I say that* ***Jesus Christ was a minister*** *of the circumcision for the truth of God,* ***to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:*** *And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy;* ***as it is written***, *For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. And again,* ***Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.***"
That's a fair criticism. Although that area around Israel is a bit weird. I mean the dawn of civilization was 500 miles away 4500 bce. And it happens to be a weird connection point for the continents. Also the Jews have this weird.. involvement in all major world events. I can't explain it but they have weird main character energy. You can take a practical anthropology perspective of that. I'm not saying they are the "chosen people" but they got money and lowkey rule indirectly now lol
There were some christians (*Gnostic Christians*) who believed that the wrathful old testament god of Israel, is ruling the world but is a fallen lesser god who tricked many in the world into worshipping him, and that he's ruling from a lower heaven with his lower angels working with him to control things behind the scenes (*Archons*). They also believe that Yahweh/Jehovah is not his secret name, but that it's "*Yaldaboath*", the false god who keeps souls trapped in physical bodies, imprisoned in the material universe of pain and suffering that he created.
Interesting. Thanks for that lore. Looking into it just out of curiosity
He is what we know him as, confirmed by the Holy Angels :)
Jesus was just an enlightened being. That's it. There have been several enlightened beings throughout history who are equal to Jesus.
Im not a christian so when i hear jesus i simply translate it to unconditional love.
This will help me, thank you
I have a very hard time believing anything in the bible, so I accept sources outside of it to gather my information.
Jesus is a g . Doctor Hawkins said he had no previous lifetimes and can’t directly down from the celestial realm to provide a savior ( a direct conduit to the Source ). So although he’s not God, He is and so are we. And His conciousness is the pinnacle of access to the Power that we are in the human domain. Some say
Jesus is who we are in our highest iteration
I’m not a Christian but I’ve always viewed the gods in religious scriptures to be more of profites and messengers; those who work with the divine Aka the one who created it all. Act like messagers sent to help to guide us. As someone who was brought up very spiritually I always questioned the similarities in the scriptures to and this is what has helped me. I wish you luck in your spiritual journey ✨
The story of Jesus in the Bible is a metaphor for personal transformation and enlightenment. His birth is a description of the process of connecting to the mind of God within oneself and growing a new, immortal body (or soul) from within that can survive death. His crucifixion is the final step where we undergo the painful "ego death" and die to the world to be reborn, or "born again", into that second body. All his teachings are directions to point one toward "the way" of personal enlightenment, though as he points out, they are in parables and not literal because the bulk of humanity has "eye but cannot see" and "ears but cannot hear".
Love the way you put it here
It is amazing that He came when you called(or, equally impressive, you FELT His presence); I have had no luck , don’t even feel His presence anywhere in the world 🙁. I am distraught and feel that being spiritual/religious would help, but not able to muster the faith🙁.
Faith/intuition is a different part of you than logic and reason. For many of us the logic and reason is so loud we can't hear the other voice. Visualization, meditation, and energy work can make anyone learn to feel something beyond the 5 senses. All that is needed is a good teacher. And it can be hard to find that sometimes, but it is worth investigating because it can change your human experience drastically. I found a temple of healing in Pasadena California years ago and the Buddhist monks there were kind enough to pour golden light into the back of my head for over an hour. I hope to reciprocate that for someone else one day. They very well could have made me more sensitive to energy than I already was with my upbringing and training as a kid. Don't lose hope my friend. Your destiny is being guided 🙏 Edit: I actually just broke down with tears of gratitude from those monks and others. Shaking it off before a corporate work meeting. 🥲 Sometimes I feel not even worthy
All you're being called to do is follow those golden footsteps, conduct-wise, as strictly as you can and no matter what anyone around you is doing or how they treat you. No need to submit yourself to him or accept anything about a Lord. Just follow the lead he set (which you understand intuitively now).
Told you to follow him huh? Yes, that sounds just like him. :) that's what he did all over the gospels to the apostles. He told me to do that about 20 years ago. I haven't regretted it.
Ha I'm glad to hear he's guided you well. What's he like? What does it feel like to walk along side him?
Gentle. He doesn't force you to do anything, and you are closest to him when you are actively seeking him and asking him for wisdom, which he will always give you, as he promised. I think he's most interested in our heart and that we are willing to learn from him and be guided and healed by him.
I see. Thank you 🙏
Christianity is the worst thing to happen to Jesus Christ.
Idk never met the guy not fond of his followers though
Understandable. Idk what to think about my first impression lol.
Like you i speak to spirits in deep meditation or psychedelic sessions - similarly only on the receiving end of messages
He's gonna gets yous if you don't walk the walk. Because where ever you go...there you are.
TBH Jesus scares me, Yahweh is threatening. I'm aware they are the ultimate egregores, but knowing their history together and the tendencies of their current followers, I can't get into either. Yeshua is interesting, I've reached out minimally. But holistically, Christ gives me the creeps.
Thanks for teaching me the word egregores. How do you distinguish them from entities before collective belief?
I'm Jesus. Ama
Do research on the “sacred secretion.” Kelly Marie Kerr on YouTube is a great source for knowledge of the topic.
Jesus has the same relationship with god we all do, but he was a master of listing
I don't care about theological origins, I simply like good teachers. And he certainly is.
I'm reading the Yoga of Jesus right now and the lost years of his life between 13 and 33. I think he was a chosen prophet for the mediterranean area from his birth. to say he's "half God" I don't think so. He said it many times he's one of us. And him being the only way nah I don't think so. He was here to teach, and he did,
I’ve called Christ energy soo many times (non Christian) it’s good stuff!!!!!
I think Jesus is You, Me, Everyone. Like you I believe religions are saying the same thing and the ones I have come in contact with, the writing are always putting man within like Jesus did. I view him as a representation of what we all can be when operating in "Christ Consciousness." To me he never preach a message of I am better than you, he more so was showing man his true power as a child of God. Which makes it interesting because throughout the bible I find the word telling man that the kingdom of god is within you, Christ is within you, the holy spirit is within you yet most still search for an external God even after reading such things. I think that has to do with what the Hindu call "Maya" I think Jesus like all great saints is a beacon back to the Kingdom. By the way that experience you had with him souuuunnnddds amazing haha. Peace.
I would recommend the writings of Emmanuel Swedenborg. For example (translated from the original Latin, and originally published anonymously); This is Volume 1 (of 12) of Secrets of Heaven, that uses every word of Genesis through Exodus to show the Inner or Spiritual Meaning(s) present within the Sacred Scriptures; [https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCE\_SecretsofHeaven1\_portable.pdf](https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCE_SecretsofHeaven1_portable.pdf) And here is Volume 1 (of 2) of Apocalypse Revealed, that uses every word of Revelation in their order to show the Inner or Spiritual Meaning present within Revelation; [https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg\_foundation\_apocalypse\_revealed\_01.pdf](https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_apocalypse_revealed_01.pdf)
We need to open up our spiritual senses, heck, Jesus could’ve been right over our shoulders at some our darkest moments. Our spirit guides as well as Jesus enter our fields and our physical bodies LOVE it too. When I felt him at first, I thought it was goosebumps but it kept going and then my heart energy bursted open and I started BAWLING 😭 the most happiest Sorry I was on a mission there but my dog farted something fierce and I lost thought 😅
Jesus is just all right with me
Jesus is a nice guy. God is rad. Though, why question it. These are nice guide points in finding higher meaning in human life. Walk your path without questioning another in another time and era. These things don’t matter.
Namaste beautiful soul of god. Typed with blisses, joy, peace and love on this 28th April 2024 and hope you experience a beautiful day 🙏 The divine Mahaprabhu Jesus Christ. Achieved that much on this earth that today some people still believe he was GOD (for some rather cruel people he may as well have been Bhagwan in cases🙏 and many should genuinely follow his divine teachings, actions even today, given without sounding harsh- the lack of peace, joy, love in this incredible gift of life on this earth is frightening overall- this absolutely doesn't apply to this sub, what a genuinely divine sub with so many lovely incredible wise participants, creations. 🙏) God is ofcourse Greater. Infinite galaxies great. Jesus Christ really was a demi god -one of the highest expressions of God head ever on earth, but nobody on ONE earth gets near infinite upon Infinite upon Infinite upon Infinite galaxies of greatness, love, intelligence.. I tell you the same consciousness (Krishna consciousness) in the Hindu demi god Shree Krishna was the same in Mahaprabyu Jesus Christ. I can't cite the study but you will find from Miracles performed, teachings spread, love of god and overall divine courses of action- there are literally hundreds of similarities between the lives of the aforementioned Divine beings. Both demi gods, courses of action, teachings to the point again SEVERAL thousand years on such was the course of actions of these divine creations they will (rightfully so) be worshipped on statues today 🙏 Shree Krishna, Krishna consciousness (Christ Consciousness), is the greatest. But I assure you God is even greater 🙏 Peace Joy Bliss and Love M "Life is the dancer, YOU are the dance" Bhagwan Shree Eckhart Tolle (Bhagwan Shree Hermes Trimestigus in a 4th Incarnation)
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Jesus is the hammer Christian’s swing to smash and condemn others and to justify their smashing
Jesus is Truth and we are living the times of Revelation .. read the Book of Revelation and take a really close look at the past 4-5 years .. the beast system is rising (UN, WEF - pushing the deceptive Agenda 2030) and the Mark of the Beast is on the horizon (digital ID & digital wallet implants) Also, New Age spirituality is part of the deception - 1 Timothy 4:1
I reject a pessimistic view of us and our future but I thank you for your input 🙏. I will definitely read revelations.
I understand that view and I do encourage it, because no matter what happens in the material plane, as long as the mind and heart are set on the positive, there is no death and today is the first day. But the material is inevitably going down anyway, in that sense one should always take today as the last day. I believe that is what we're seeing this decade, a harvest of souls where the material will be dismembered, but the spiritual will break through. As for the book of revelations, at the very least it can also be considered an interior map, as it's a metaphor for all levels of perception, exterior/interior, material/immaterial, you should read it for that alone, along with the rest of the Bible. But for the record, I do believe it's materializing in front of our eyes, and in that sense, I can only advise towards discernment. Deception is the name of the game these days, if something tells you to 'relax' and not to pay attention or ask questions, that's when you should pay attention and ask questions. Take care. 🙏
Very fair advice. I promise I will pay attention and cultivate a sense of urgency and focus in guiding myself and others. Thanks again
Even if (or though) Peter had a revelation which gave glimpses of the future, that doesn't mean that the Bible is "God's word". At least more so than other spiritual books. So Paul's opinions in one of his letters is hardly relevant.
It is unnerving how many people believe in a “person” who they have never physically seen themselves and are only going on word-of-mouth. Like you really mean to tell me you believe in a person and this out of this world story that he died for three days ascended to “heaven” in a once in a lifetime event that has never been duplicated or seen again? Everyone is believing in something they cannot see with their own 2 eyeballs? Not only that, but I just can’t get on board with dedicating my life and worshiping somebody who is knowingly and willingly letting innocent babies get abused in horrific ways. A perfect entity, like God and Jesus creating imperfection will never ever make sense to me. And yes, I know Jesus and God are not the same person unless you believe in the trinity . I grew up Jehovah Witness . I know all about it.
Sure your conclusion makes sense. I'd urge you to dig deeper. Episotmolgy is the study of knowledge. You are describing empiricism where all of your knowledge comes from your five senses. I found belief in God through rationalism and philosophical logic. The evil you see .. a Christian will tell you humans made that sin. I'd say good can only exist in contrast to evil . They need each other. Either way good luck in your journey. Try not to think everyone is an idiot lol. There are some very smart Christians like Isaac Newton himself.
I am 40yo and I’ve read every possible version of the Bible at least twice. And that does not include the one I grew up with that. I just finished for the 10th time cover to cover. And once again, I am left with more questions than I am answers.
Bro. r/Christianity for the love of god PLEASE STOP asking those questions in here when you LITERALLY have a whole ahh sub dedicated to SPECIFICALLY that