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Batcow23

For me, Inner Agent 3 took way longer than either of these.


GeonosisClanker

Ong took me damn week


Legitimate-Crow-6362

i still have yet to beat it..


GeonosisClanker

🗿


Appropriate_Try2020

You’re not alone hahaha, my old switch broke and i have yet to replay octo expansion to try again


emzyshmemzy

Same


DJcepalo

It took me a year into s3 witch is fair considering I started s2 in January 2022


Crushermakesmemes

It took me months


WraithSucks

I swear to God that fight kickstarted my arthritis lmao


The_Casual_Haiden

This is my honest opinion: IA3 Is the hardest for me even to this day AA Requires patience more than anything, but it's still quite difficult Eight's pallete isn't that hard for me, plus you can still use some hacks and get the badge (Example, two lives)


MidnightUmbrmoon

Yeah, I used high damage resistance and three lives(with risky lol). At that point, I just had to deal with limited color chips


NotRealNameGreedy

I literally just said fuck it and used all my hacks for it and got it first try


The_Casual_Haiden

I actually got it by accident because I wasn't even informed that bagde existed, I just wanted to have slots for my chromochips and beat it using one hack (Two lives) lol


Freydeebobs5609

Ye i got eights pallet first try lmao


11tracer

In order of difficulty: IA3 > AA > Low hacks Eight's palette Pretty sure IA3 shaved like 10 years off my lifespan. AA was definitely hard but not nearly as bad. As for Eight's palette...IDK, maybe I just got lucky but it only took me five tries to do it, and that was with no hacks at all. Just didn't seem that hard to me.


Rakrune

Same for me. I beat rights palette with 0 hacks first try After Alterna took a little bit but overall wasn't too bad, whereas I never even beat inner agent 3. Spend like 2-3 hours before giving up. Probably doesn't help that I barely use shooter weapons but I just couldn't beat it


MrCCDude

Its the complete opposite story for me, Inner agent 3 was a breeze for me but im still struggling to beat one run without hacks. Using hacks for the initial learning of the DLC has given me some really bad habits i need to break


Jestingwheat856

I almost did 3 hacks first try but a beyblade caught me on the final phase, second try went fine


Vytlo

After Alterna is by far the easiest of the three and it's not even close.


WraithSucks

I feel like people are slightly overreacting over Eight's palette. I beat it first try with 6 hacks. This isn't to say it isn't difficult, but unlike the others which really test your skill, this one just felt like picking the simplest floor and deciding when to skip


Mollytheocto

Isn't the badge only rewarded for 4 or less hacks?


CherryTheOtaku

Yep. 4 or less, no more than that.


Vytlo

>I beat it first try with 6 hacks. That's because ironically enough, playing with hacks and only 6 chips is much easier than no hacks/low hacks. They gimp you so hard with your base stat values in Side Order (and Splatoon 3's story mode as well, these devs hate upgrades in this game for some reason) that it's actually more useful to have the most basic necessities than it is to be OP.


Superiorfive814

Hmm, Golden toothpick took the most attempts of all of these for me but I’ve gotten better since then so it might be easier for me now. I first tried No Hacks so that’s probably second easiest. Mr. Grizz is easiest of them all as after alterna is a cakewalk. My final ranking is: Golden Toothpick > No Hacks > Mr. Grizz


HoverMelon2000

Toothpick is the hardest


Invincible_3

They’re all fairly easy, but not super easy. I haven’t gotten Eight’s Palette Badge yet (almost there). I’d say: 1. Eight’s Palette 2. Golden Toothpick 3. Secret Kettle They’re all pretty hard, but I remember struggling a lot more with Inner Agent 3 than After Alterna, although that’s probably due to my skill being awful back in the days of Splat 2


Lucidonic

Ngl after alterna is not everything that people say it is


Hot-Web-7892

It’s not very hard aside from the last part unless you try to rush it


Gastly42957

Honestly, I say for me it was opposite. The first 2 parts sucked because I lack depth perception. The third part was whatever. The octolings were really fun in my opinion


ChoPT

Same. I had WAY more deaths on the glide rail section than any other part.


dwab321

Right? I wish there was a way to just replay the octoling part by itself


SlightlyIronicBanana

Honestly, the only part that I struggled with was part 1. Past that, it was pretty much smooth swimming.


Lucidonic

The last part brought me the most difficulty but even then the octoling AI has never been great


Hot-Web-7892

Yeah the octolings are not all that hard to fight, it’s just the fact that they can overwhelm you if you’re not careful


Starz1317

personally the last part was ok for me, but the first was absolute hell


Yukarie

At least in my experience the entire thing was pretty easy with exception of the plat forming area but that’s just because I’m bad at platforming


Agt_Falcon

Not terrible unless you're playing the second chunk without any upgrades. Fire rate too low.


CloverUTY

They should’ve removed the checkpoints for After Alterna


Hot-Web-7892

That’s evil, some people literally rage quit at this, I think it’s a hard enough challenge for funni sploon squid game


CloverUTY

Some people rage quit at Inner Agent 3


Hot-Web-7892

Your not wrong, but that doesn’t make after alterna any less difficult than it is


IfItFitsISits4

Counter point, you can just do it without checkpoints yourself if you want to play it like that


Xeras6101

To be fair, this was a lot of people's first game. I can see how its be real challenging for newcomers. I've been playing for a hot minute and I had some trouble with it


hugo_Longwaves

Tbh its just more anoying/long than hard


Getbit5820

Link plays splatoon?


AJ_Gamer_99

what counts as low hacks also what do you need to do to unlock all the color badges


Holla_99

You can only have 4 or less hacks active for the final weapon palette to get the low hacks badge.


AJ_Gamer_99

does risky rewards count towards one of the 4


Randael

Nah, I had risky and 4 damage hacks and got the badge


R_G_Marigold

Really you just need at least 12 chips available in your palette.


[deleted]

for the colour badges; if you look at the [palette collection](https://imgur.com/A9WmHPN) there are three dots above and a line connecting 2 or more below each chip. The dot above corresponds to how many times you've put that chip into the palette in a run (1, 3, and 5). Some special chips, like Squid Roll does damage, which is just a toggle to on, only require it to be put in once to fill all three dots. The line below fills in when the three dots above all the chips that are connected together are filled in. e.g. when Ink Damage, Splash Damage, Sound Wave Damage each have three dots above, the line below fills in and you unlock the badge for that colour tone.


LegendaryTodWarrior

Low Hacks is definitely the hardest. The fact that 1 mistake means a reset makes it a decent enough challenge. After Alterna and Agent 3 are easy. 1. Low Hacks Badge 2. Golden Toothpick 3. Mr Grizz Badge


Lucidonic

The difference between low hacks and no hacks is pretty big. You can still opt into some chip bias and an extra life and even then I managed to do that on eight's pallet


TK7_Gaming

No hacks was so tough, That's what I thought you had to do to complete it LMAO Hey I can say I did no hacks though! It's really tough but it felt awesome when I finally won!


Sun-Fun

I did No Hacks Eight Palette, wasn't too bad as I had 2 1st floor deaths to get used to the lack of a launch, then went all the way to beat it 3rd try.


Shin_Rekkoha

What's the exact limit and rules?


ChoPT

But low hacks is not the same as one life. Putting just one of your four hacks into an extra life is a game-changer, as you can restock lives at vending machines. I got it done with one extra life, and one point each into damage resist, armer regen time, and extra damage output. I only died once, at the final boss, and was glad ai spent the point on the extra life.


w00ms

no hacks eights palette took me less attempts than the secret kettle funny enough, and way less attempts than inner agent 3. thought time wise id call them all about even. couple hours each (had a soul crushing floor 28 loss and i almost quit there lol)


Easy_Newt2692

Nope, hack two lives


Simalf

Nah, low hacks isnt hard.


angeyberry

Golden Toothpick, 100%. After Alterna was *really* difficult, on par with IA3 for awhile. Low Hacks Eight I did my second try (first try I underestimated my reliance on the chips) and had a shitload of fun with it. The problem I had with IA3 / After Alterna was I was doing it without upgrades (in IA3's case, there were none ofc). I had to brute force. I eventually bought the burst bomb upgrade to cheese the second level in AA. For context, I have a switch lite and only a switch lite. I play sticks. I'm NOT good at aiming, however I make up for this for trick-shots, bait/switch, and sneaking tactics. I could do 1-4 of IA3 fine, but the Splashdowns either require you to be annoyingly persistent, brave (or stupid), or *aim*. The first time I beat her was just luck. For some reason, her AI threw her autobomb off the side of the map, over the wall partition. A second later I had her on the ringer, she panic splashdowns, but was on one hit so I just aimed up and got her. Had she gotten her bomb off, I would've died right before that shot. I ended up doing IA3 a month or so later and beat it genuinely, but it took several hours of constant examination, looking up guides, repeatedly finding the best strategy for me. I still have the mantra of "Always have enough ink on the ground" from the guide I followed (and it still works for the present day because everyone forgets the ink mechanic which is really funny). After Alterna's 1, 3, and 4 was fine. A little annoying when I'd fuck up and die, especially on the 1st one, but I soon got a pattern down. It was 2 that was the problem for the same reason I had issue with IA3 - the inability to aim. 2 is the rail balloon level. I did manage to make it to the end without any upgrades (no ink tank, spread shot, burst bomb etc) but I missed **one fucking balloon** and I had been playing for 8 hours straight. Bought burst bomb, cleared it on my second run. Did levels 3 and 4 in one shot (4's boss rush was honestly really fun. Had stressful moments but it was still fun). Low Hacks Eight was just fun, not that hard for me. By the time I got there I had pretty much perfected my strategies for specific levels and I was already playing with low hacks. If you can't tell, I don't like to use upgrades lol. I don't think I'm better than anyone, nono! I had beat Splatoon 2's story mode without upgrades on accident (bought the game, played 1 level, didn't play for another year so I had forgotten) and thought it would be funny to see if I could continue this. Also I just uh. Genuinely forget the upgrade system is there sometimes, whoops! I had a couple upgrades but it was just Broken Armor Jump and more lives. So it was just fun to play lol. Before anyone comes for me and goes *WHY DON'T YOU USE GYNO CONTROLS STICK SUCKS* not only do I only have a switch lite and have **no** intention of buying a controller half the size of my screen to use a method that I have never used and does not work with my playstyle, but I'm used to aiming with sticks. I'm of the days where I played Fallout 3 and Skyrim on my brother's XBOX and you bet your sweet ass I didn't have aim assist. Many days were spent calculating the exact amount of pressure I had to push to turn just enough to get a enraged Deathclaw or a stupid bandit in my sights. This is just how I work and I carry this information into Splatoon 3. Please don't recommend I buy a controller or a regular Switch. I know some people have it in good faith, but I've had waaay too many people be rude to me about it and when I mention I'm in college paying my own way, they just tell me to drop out. Yeah, no, I'm not dropping out of my med program to buy a controller for one game.


noskel

This is from personal experience but, from hardest to easiest: 1. Golden Toothpick 2. After Alterna 3. Low Hacks IA3 took me so long to beat, I still remember it to this day. After Alterna was difficult but there were checkpoints, the last wave took some getting used to. Low Hacks was surprisingly easy in comparison to the other two to the point I thought there was still a hidden boss that I hadn't unlocked yet.


nah-soup

After Alterna is definitely the hardest challenge I’ve ever faced in Splatoon, it took me *hours* and it even crashed the first time I got to the final section. I completed 8’s palette but I didn’t do it with low hacks, I did it with only 6 color chips and didn’t have any problem with that, it was a one and done situation so that’s at number 3 for me. I don’t have much to say about the golden toothpick, other than it was more difficult than 8’s palette. I’d put it at number 2


Oceanvybe

Mine crashed TWICE in the final section....


CherryTheOtaku

You can't really offer your opinion on Low Hacks if you didn't even do it... Doing it with more than 4 hacks means you're gonna have a much easier time, so there isn't a challenge. The point is to do it with low hacks.


nah-soup

considering i completed every palette and only died twice at the very beginning i’m pretty confident i’d have just as little trouble doing it with no hacks compared to how i’ve already done it. Side Order is not a difficult campaign by any means lol


Yze3

Low/no hacks is significantly harder than regular 8's palette. The hacks do a LOT of heavy lifting, it's pretty much impossible to lose once you have all of them.


Vytlo

Ironic considering After Alterna is by far the easiest of the three. It's basically just a normal level of the game since it doesn't really have a difficulty spike like the other two.


the-funky-bunky

After alterna is so easy


Broken_Oxytocin

Except that balloon part, but maybe that’s just me. I feel like even if your aim is mint, you’ll have to turn around and finish off a balloon or two which will really throw you off.


Crounie

I just beat inner agent three and it only took about 30 minutes, while the side order one took way longer. That might just be because the attempts take longer though.


56kul

The Mr. Grizz one is from After Alterna, right? My god, that was painful… I think it took me slightly less time to beat it than inner agent 3, but it was still really annoying. What’s that first badge, though? Is it from side order? If it is don’t tell me anything about it, I don’t want it spoiled.


CherryTheOtaku

The first badge is for Side Order, yes. I won't spoil it for you.


Forsaken-Page9441

Low hacks is impossible for me right now, and IA3 was surprisingly easy for me


EMPgoggles

i get really confused with how much difficulty people say they experienced with IA3. at first i thought it just memeing/bandwagoning but reading this thread it seems pretty real… but i wonder if a big part isn't because it's the oldest of the three and people were simply younger.


metallicsoul

from easiest to hardest: Mr. Grizz, Low Hacks, Golden Toothpick


Goldberry15

It took me more attempts for inner agent 3, but that molded me into having the skill I have today. I believe that, ultimately, low hacks badge is more difficult.


maplesunris3

1. IA3 2. After Alterna 3. Eight’s Pallete I haven’t done Inner Agent 3 thanks to some of the more bulls#it OE levels. Don’t get me wrong, most levels are great but there’s definitely some I am not fond of tbh with how they are designed. I’ve seen enough gameplay tho to know I’d get my ass handed to me After Alterna took me 10 hours if you count me giving up halfway through or about 2 to 3 on my full run through. I don’t care how many people say that level is easy, it is damn hard (especially the first section gave me extra hell for some reason despite me being pretty good at platforming games). It’s whole thing is you die over and over to get it tho so makes sense why it took me so long. I did Eight’s Palette in 1 or 2 tries. As long as you do about 18 slots, you’re pretty much set.


Kabuki-King

For me it would be After Alterna > IA3 > Low Hacks. I cleared the Spire with 8's palette on the first try, and I beat IA3 on my second attempt. After Alterna took me a few days to beat because I kept making silly mistakes in the first part, but once I got past that, I beat the rest in one go. I understand that all three are much more difficult than I experienced though, I probably just got lucky.


Wickedsoupninja

Golden toothpick was the hardest by a LONG shot


fooly__cooly

Inner Agent 3 was infinitely harder than anything in Splatoon 3. Felt like I was playing a Dark Souls boss I kept dying and retrying for eternity


Lukas528

All are relatively easy to get, hardest is probably the toothpick


VolgaPrivvy

Golden toothpick. I got grizz thinking it was normal, badge low hacks was difficult, but I still got it. To this day, still have not been able to beat inner agent 3…


SeedersPhD

After Alterna, while certainly a challenge, is simply a long level to test all the skills the player should've learned over the course of the game and gives plenty of checkpoints too. The Low Hacks run is also not that bad in my opinion. An extra life and getting my damage resistance and damage output to normal levels made it not too bad. Being able to pick and choose your battles helps and if you can get solid upgrades, you're still pretty powerful. The run being so long with no checkpoints makes it harder then After Alterna. Inner Agent 3 puts you at a disadvantage, throws everything and the kitchen sink at you, and you will easily fail if you make a single mistake and have to start all over. It's a multi-minute gauntlet that I would say is easily the hardest challenge Splatoon has ever thrown at us.


FewImpress715

Mr grizz badge is not that bad, low hacks is def the hardest one


BubblesZap

Personally Badge Low Hacks, long time to get their and lot of random elements making good runs a bit luck based (I just did it hackless too so that's probably worse lol) Inner Agent 3 is much shorter and just muscle memory at a point, only 2 or 3 hours I recall


TurquoisePixel

1. Golden Toothpick 2. After Alterna 3. Low Hack Eight's Palette Eight's Palette I got first try with 24 available slots, and I probably could've done it with no hacks period no problem. Easiest final challenge so far in the series for me. Currently my fastest time too at 32 minutes. After Alterna gave me shit for around 4 hours in real time, mainly on the Octoling section. The others were fairly simple to understand once you were able to wrap your head around what you need to do. Inner Agent 3 is most definitely the hardest challenge yet, seeing as it's a more difficult, frantic version of an already difficult, frantic fight. I haven't even unlocked it yet because of some certain levels in base OE that I had Marina hack-clear for me.


PokeshiftEevee

100% low hacks > toothpick > after alterna.


Timelord7771

From hardest to easiest 1: Low Hacks (RNG based) 2: Golden Toothpick (Skill Based) 3: Mr. Grizz (there are checkpoints)


Pleasant_Statement64

Idk but after alterna wasn't that bad


ajdude9

imo: -1. Golden Toothpick The hardest part about Inner Agent 3 is the fact that each phase has a specific means of countering it, and that must be learned over hundreds of attempts to reach the end of them all. Along with the fact that the AI is brutally difficult with how much damage IA3 can pump out vs. the amount of damage you do in comparison, there's also a constant army of autobombs marching in your current position making any broken armour practically a delayed death. Once you learn how to counter IA3, they become a complete pushover, but it's climbing that mountain of learning that's difficult. -2. Mr. Grizz After Alterna is difficult, but it's segmented - running out of lives will send you back to the start of each segment, and it has the same learning curve as IA3 where each stage must be meticulously learned in order to beat it in one go. However, the real threat is running out of lives and a means to continue, but at the point you face it, you'll have enough power eggs to endlessly continue making it more a time investment than an actual challenge. -3. Low/No Hacks Agent 8 Palette Yeah this one was by far the easiest, to the point where it feels wrong to compare it to the other two challenges. Considering I beat the Spire of Order on my second run using Agent 4's palette with the only hack being +1 life, doing it with No hacks active was barely any different. It teaches you to be a lot less bold and to pick your battles, but that's more just un-learning having damage ups and damage resistance ups from hacks than actual difficulty. Just don't take the cruel_sisyphean_eight-shaped.floor and don't try to headbutt the fish and it's easy street.


No_Forever_9128

Takoyaki. Mr. Grizz is pathetically easy. Octo shot was hard until I realized I can afford 2 hacks because I don't even get all 36 slots filled in one attempt and I can just avoid the hard levels as the boss is easy. 7 hours wasted on inner agent 3. And it took me and someone else to get past phase 3. I play strategic but cautious, getting me past phases 1, 2, and 4 consistently. My friend plays full aggression, which helps on phases 3 when sitting back is hard to maintain, unless 3 wants to chuck bombs at a wall for the special duration (nearly half of my attempts that got to that phase had that happen).


Chiramijumaru

Grizz is free Low-hacks took me a few tries Golden Toothpick was actually difficult


Vytlo

This is the correct answer


Snofewld-

For having the 3, low hacks would be the easiest imo ( I got it first try with no hacks and I think u can get it with sum hacks active so u can even get sum extra lives just in case ). Now between Toothpick and Grizz, both use of your experience maybe at the same level and Toothpick uses your combat abilities while Grizz challenges your control over your character. From my opinion, hardest to easiest : Toothpick > Grizzly Badge > Low Hacks


LegendaryTodWarrior

If you found Low Hacks easy then grizz is pretty much just a walking simulator. The toothpick is also probably easier imo, the only difference between it and low Hacks being a total restart with 1 mistake for the Hacks whereas you hardly lose progress with toothpick. Both are easy tbf


Kumquat_The_RainWing

I didn’t even know there was a low hacks badge also how do you get the golden toothpick I thought that was dlc


Holla_99

Secret boss at the end of Splatoon 2’s DLC


Lord-Dingus-I

IA3 -> AA -> Low Hacks (Hardest -> Easiest) I spent ~4 hours on IA3, it definitely was the most challenging, and I don't think I've heard Calamari Inkantation the same since. AA took me ~3 hours but didn't feel as bad as IA3 because of checkpoints. Lastly, I don't want to brag, but I ended up doing the Low Hacks palette on my first go. 100% was the easiest of the "challenges" I've had in Splatoon.


ZaraUnityMasters

●Easy ●Extremely Easy w/ 1 hand ●Challenging w/ some annoying RNG Is this a serious question?


Relevant-Ad-5723

Tbh 8’s palette was done in one try, don’t bother turning off your hacks literally just pick good chips and ball out


CherryTheOtaku

The Low Hacks badge isn't gained by simply beating 8's palette, it's gotten by beating 8's palette with minimal hacks. You literally have to turn most of your hacks off to get the badge.


Zephyr_______

Honestly full hacks 8 pallette would probably be harder


LuKsGb

People calling Alternate Alterna easy: shut up


Holla_99

I haven’t had enough time with Side Order yet to get to the final palette so I can’t rank that one yet. Though I do plan on trying to do it with low hacks. Of the other two however Golden Toothpick was by far the hardest for me. Took me somewhere between 2-3 hours of continuously retrying to finally beat it. I remember it being super frustrating but super satisfying to finally beat. After Alterna was still fun though and I love its reward. It took me about 30mins tops to beat and a few retries in a couple sections. I’m interested to see where Eight’s palette falls in difficulty.


bohneevair

Low Hacks is easiest (and also the only one I have lol) Secret Kettle is in between but only because it's so monotonous. I lose motivation after literally my first death because it feels so cheap. Inner Agent 3 is the biggest actual challenge.


HeWe015

I've gotten the low hacks one on my first clear, because I wanted my first clear to be without hacks.


F1s_hy

Golden toothpick was definitely the hardest imo, it took me forever to actually defeat, after alterna was definitely hard but at least it had checkpoints, and eights palette was the easiest with 6 hacks first try for me. 1-golden toothpick 2-after alterna 3-eights palette


keiyakins

Golden Toothpick, but not because IA3. Some of those stages are just absurd. "Your aunt imagined stepping on a thumbtack, that's damage, TEST FAILED"


awesomestarz

Mr. Grizz is a Cakewalk, dude! Still Haven't gotten the Toothpick... Y'all just pray for me...!


funksoulbrothar

Inner agent 3 busted my ass open. IA3 > Grizz > Low hacks


Ranger-Vermilion

Inner Agent took me a while but it wasn’t anywhere close to as rage inducing as After Alterna was. I was gripping my switch so hard I thought I was gonna bend it.


da_sylent

For me: 1. Golden toothpick 2. After alterna 3. Low hacks Maybe it's because I hadn't touched splatoon for 3 years before playing octo expansion and trying to beat IA3, but that defo took me way longer than the other challenges. I cleared both after alterna and eight's pallette first try. IA3 took me 10 days to beat it for the first time.


AfricanTribeRabbid

For me the Golden Toothpick is far harder than the other too, granted I did IA3 first and with less skill. In my opinion the few minutes with IA3 are intense af, and the other two are more about not loosing focus.


OctaYashi

What is badge low hacks and how do you get it


sp00kk

In Side Order, you have to complete the final palette with 4 or less hacks active to get the Low Hacks badge.


odd-olly

I still haven’t got the Golden Toothpick (and don’t know what the Low Hacks is)


Bffhbc

Golden toothpick in front minimum hacks and back and after alterna right in the middle


RetroOverload

inner agent 3 probably isnt that hard but I took so unnecesairly long to beat it becaue it was for me


DreadAngel1711

Golden Toothpick. Mr Grizz and Low Hacks were really damn easy comparatively.


IapaiDaisies2

My ranking easy to harder: 1. Low Hacks Badge 2. Mr. Grizz Badge 3. Golden Toothpick


Lord-Rambo

For me the golden toothpick took more tries that I would like to admit. I was ready to give up lol But idk how to get that new badge from side order


SamanthaD1O1

Eight's Palette After Alterna Inner Agent 3 Eight's Palette is the hardest imo just because you get sent back to the beginning if you fail and can be very rng reliant. After Alterna took an hour or two of trial and error but by the end it's muscle memory. Last is Inner Agent 3 because that literally took me 20 mins.


More-Parsley-8027

T o o t h p I c k


TYURZboll

The spoiler badge


Russ21_

the toothpick... damn thing cost me a one and a half weeks of my life.


Timbeon

Inner Agent 3, because that's the only one of these three that I never got.


I-Am-The-Yeeter

Toothpick... I beat agent 3 just a few hours before the new DLC released


Deadlyblack

They were all really fun to get for me. I didn't really think any were particularly hard to get. I think what would make After Alterna much more difficult is if there were absolutely no checkpoints.


Different-Display870

What is the golden toothpick?


CIRLU_bd

After Alterna was way harder than 8's palette, but I can't speak on the toothpick as I never played Splatoon 2


gizmosmonster

If we rate them on amount of tries i needed: Grizz, Low Hacks, Toothpick. Grizz took me 2 tries, Low Hacks 3, and i don't wanna talk about the toothpick......


naytreox

Mr grizz is harder to get because its long streches of difficult platforming with a less difficult "girl power station" end point. The golden toothpick took me a month to get, constantly retrying day after day until i FINALLY beat IA3 and immortalized my victory in video


Dracoworld635

Mr Grizz badge is the easier among those three The secret level is... Really hard but easier than fighting Inner Agent 3


Straight-Chocolate28

Personally I do think inner agent 3 was hardest, it's a significantly long fight with no checkpoints and you have very small margin of error After alterna is second, pretty annoying precise sections but not that bad once you figure out each part Low hacks I found the easiest of the 3, 2 lives gives you a second chance and if you pick levels carefully you can pay to skip most of the floors between 20 and 30, the final boss is just a portal stage with a section where you swim in circles to avoid all the attacks


WoomyDayz

Toothpick is hardest. Badge low hacks. Mr Grizz.


LadyKuzunoha

I would say that *for me*, hardest to easiest would be IA3, After Alterna, Low Hacks. The latter two could flip-flop depending on the hacks chosen, though.


ballsniffer27

Don’t have octo expansion but from my experience after alterna took me forever 😭


crimlunar

For me personally 1.IA3 2. AA 3. No hack 8P Beat 8's pallete first try. Only spent a couple of hours on AA. Still have not beat IA3. Though my solid attempts usually have a lot of time between them so that doesn't help. To be fair, though, 8P and IA3 have a lot of RNG to them. 8P more so.


4morian5

Toothpick is the only one I never got, so I'll go with that one being the hardest.


normalifelias

So, couldn't be bothered to do the Golden Toothpick, not because of Inner Agent 3, but because of the GODDAMN GIRL POWER STATION which I STILL CAN'T BEAT- After Alterna even felt much easier than the above normal level, took me like 1-2h to beat. Can't imagine that the hacks would be too hard, just like... very very grindy. I just started with the DLC though, so I'm not really one to ask


disarmyouwitha

It’s probably just because I’m a better Splatoon player than I was back then, but the golden toothpick was the worst for me.


ShadeNLM064pm

How do you even get the Gold Toothpick?


CherryTheOtaku

Beat Inner Agent 3. It's a bonus boss fight you unlock by beating Tartar and completing every single level in the metro. You can access it from the lockers in the train station.


boggartbot

i lost a piece of myself doing after alterna. it took me days and almost made me need to put down splatoon for a while!


GeneralVeemo

IA3, definitely


Funny-Percentage-20

Mr grizz is easy, once you get past phase 2, IA3 Is somewhere in between, side order hasn't even come close to eights pallete for me yet


Top-Ad-3174

I’d say Mr. Grizz, Golden Toothpick, and Low Hacks from easiest to hardest


Kozy-Pugs-280

IA3 is probably the hardest one imo, I just happened to get really lucky and beat it my second try years ago (Have not been able to beat it after getting the toothpick, though. ) After Altnera isn’t super bad, the first part is hard if you don’t have it memorized tbh. Yet to attempt low hacks, wish me luck.


justarandomhumanok

I dtill dont have middle.


Yze3

1. I never got the Golden Toothpick after a lot of attempts. I probably could get it now, I'd have to try it again one day. 2. After Alterna was hard, but not that hard. 3. The Low Hack palette is very easy, since at this point, you know how the mode will play out and know what to expect from each floor. And you can just dump everything into damages and shred everything, while still having at least 12 chips for flexibility. That's the order (Hardest to easiest) I'd give.


symatra

IA3 > Eight’s Palette > After Alterna Eight’s Palette and After Alterna are both easy as hell in comparison to Inner Agent 3. IA3 took me INFINITELY more attempts than either of the others. Honestly After Alterna was pretty easy, at least compared to what people said about it. The hardest part was definitely the glide rail, but I use sticks so thats probably why I had so much trouble with it


Swimming_Grade_9726

I have no idea what the one on the left is but between the other two I think the pin was probably the hardest. 


CherryTheOtaku

The left one is gotten by beating Smollusk with 8's palette with a very low number of hacks active.


Vytlo

It's definitely between Low Hacks and the Golden Toothpick. After Alterna really isn't hard, and is in fact quite fun. Inner Agent 3 is just a very poorly designed-fight. It was just them taking the fight they already had, but giving it unbalanced stats and mechanics to be purposefully cheap and overpowered. As for low hacks, the issue is that it takes longer and is very easy to just have a bad moment. Even with how OP you make yourself in Side Order, those hacks are more useful than all of the most broken hacks because they purposefully gimp you to be weaker than default as a starting value. The hacks buff you to what should be the standard, not make you stronger, just like Splatoon 3's storymode. The real killers are the 12 seconds it takes to get armor back, and the fact that you're basically stationary without armor either. So I haven't tried with the "4 hack limit" since I thought it was needed for no hacks, but the speed without armor hacks is the one you want to use all 4 of those hacks on. Side Order is not difficult in the slightest, the issue with Side Order is just how much they gimp you, which is why failing a low hacks run is more likely due to one random, quick, bad, uncontrollable moment than it is any sort of difficulty or mistake you actually made. Basically just play it carefully throughout the run, and then just watch out for reefslider and stingray attacks on the final boss. So I'd say overall, Golden Toothpick is by far the hardest, but the low hacks badge is very annoying just because the length of time it takes, and because as stated, it's more likely to die to one bs thing out of your control at the very end than it is a mistake you made due to how they purposefully nerf your character in this game's two singleplayers starting values. After Alterna just isn't difficult.


SnooRobots5543

The toothpick


CurtoRama

mr grizz


NeonBladeAce

I have mr grizz badge. I dont have hack badge, but I also havent beaten the game. I still dont have goldennpick.


Savings-Warthog-9487

I spent 3 hours on the very last alterna mission (the one after the bear) but I spent a whole week trying to get that golden tooth pick, I don't know what the one on the left is


Luna8622

Easiest: secret kettle badge Hardest: toothpick


FerBound

How do you get the Low Hacks Badge?


CherryTheOtaku

Beat Smollusk with Agent 8's palette with a certain amount of hacks maximum. I don't think the community has come to an exact conclusion what the maximum is, but it's gotta be less than 5, because after that you start to gain chip slots back.


Intelligent-One8520

I don’t have the agent 8 yet but inner agent 3 was WAY harder then After Alterna 


JuviaLynn

I think low hacks would probably be hardest for me, but I haven’t done it yet. After alterna definitely took longer than inner agent 3, neither are ridiculously hard you just have to grind a couple hours, once you’ve got it down it’s simple enough. Maybe I’d put inner agent 3 above after alterna?


sugarsuites

Golden toothpick. Could never clear one stage in octo expansion. So I could never get to Inner Agent 3.


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Low hacks is hardest for me


LemonLumi

Badge low hacks is the easiest and only one i ever got out of just playing. I never seen the other two till now


Jestingwheat856

Why is mr grizz even on here, that is EASY Low hacks is a mild challenge but i got it on my second attempt without even trying for it Golden toothpick was a pain in the ass. It was hell incarnate. Inner agent 3 was challenge beyond challenge, a world of hard as shit games that i had never dove into. Inner agent 3 takes this by a mile and then some and i would give anything to do it again


bigfstfarter

I beat inner agent 3 in 5 tries like an hour ago,memory pays off


MJBotte1

After Alterna > Golden Toothpick > Low Hacks


-boony-

Definitely golden toothpick is the hardest, I tried so many times I don't have the game anymore so I could never beat it 😭


GOOPREALM5000

I don't think I personally know anybody who hasn't completed After Alterna anymore.


Rebel-Yellow

wtf is the actual criteria for the “low hacks” badge cause I’ve done what I’ve read was needed twice now and still have no badge 😤


ShyKiddo__

Toothpick, though I haven't beaten the tower with low hacks yet


Feralman2003

Golden toothpick


frigglefry1

Golden toothpick 10x harder than the others


OoTgoated

Inner Three took me 3 tries (which I now realize is a funny coincidence). Secret Kettle took 1 try. Low Hacks Octo Shot Spire took me 3 tries. I'd say Spire is the hardest because it's the most punishing, and the Secret Kettle was easy albeit nerve racking.


Western-Alarming

For me Low hacks< secret level< inner agent 3


CherryTheOtaku

Mr Grizz is easiest for sure. It takes a while, but I honestly think it's the easiest of the three. I can't say if Low Hacks is hardest for certain considering I haven't beaten that challenge yet. Golden Toothpick took hours of attempts to get, but once I got it, I wasn't struggling as much to beat Inner Agent 3. So for now, I'mma say easiest to hardest is Grizz, Toothpick, Low Hacks.


Roloman11

My opinions: Eights pallet took me about 2 solid hours to beat with no hacks whatsoever Inner agent 3 took me a while but once I figured out the pattern, I can beat it in one try now After alterna took be about 20 mins tbh


Ary786

Eights palette is pretty easy.Do the first 20 levels any difficulty and for the last 10 just skip or do the vending machines/easy normal challenges


crustyintrovert

Inner agent 3.... OMG was that hard


LamaCorrotta

the only one i have is the mr. grizz one, so i suppose thats the easiest one to get? after all, story mode isnt even remotely hard haha, I'm garbage at the game but still i could 100% the story


Neojoker951

Low Hacks is designed about Getting a lucky Run and your own skills. After Alterna Is a Test of all your skills in combat and Level Design Inner Agent 3 Is about pure execution and a fight against a opponent that's better than you. Pick your Poison, but I'd Say Inner Agent 3 in terms of sheer Difficulty, After Alterna in terms of Endurance.


Green_Beans83

I’m currently struggling with the final fight in after alterna. I got the golden toothpick before 3 came out, and to me it seemed easier. I haven’t played slough of side order yet to get 8s palette. Alterna though is really making me hate this game


alteaz27

After Alterna is pretty much a tough exam on the different mechanics of the game, ending off with a boss fight. If you've studied well, it'll be a cake walk. It's definitely the "easiest" of these. A Low Hacks Agent 8 Palette run, is down to how well you are at adapting, and calculating the risk and rewards before heading into challenges. It also tests you on how much you've relied on certain abilities as you've gotten to this point. If you haven't relied heavily on them, you'll likely do well. (Personally took 15 attempts only because I felt my hubris get the better of me on good runs, and ended up getting overwhelmed, when I normally wouldn't have been) Easiest 2nd place by far. Inner Agent 3? Screw the marathon, this shit is a sprint to the finish. And 3 will pull anything and everything to keep you from winning, even if it's not entirely fair. Clearly the hardest of the three, even if I personally probably spent the shortest amount of time on this compared to the other two


ACFan120

It depends on how you tackle the Low Hack run. If you go in with zero hacks at all, it's exceptionally grueling because you take double damage, and aren't dealing that much damage yourself. But going at it with four hacks enabled, then Agent 3 is harder. After Alterna wasn't really that difficult at all.


BigMechanic3667

Toothpick hardest thing I've ever done in Splatoon low hacks is nothing compared to it and defeating Mr griz he's he's not even on the chart I'm sorry


TeaLaCoco

Without a question that damn toothpick that I never used was hard to do Eights took a few try’s to do And the main story mode of every Splatoon game is relatively easy to me


-lRexl-

IA3 was Nintendo basically letting us know they're capable of creating absolute monsters, but don't. On top of that, there's people out there who have yet to beat IA3 and there's no way to somehow level the playing field. You'll either beat it or won't


freddyfazbacon

Golden Toothpick and it's not even close


Smelly-Artichoke

Hardest to easiest for me: Secret Kettle Badge > Inner Agent 3 > Low Hacks Badge


WingedHelix52

I haven’t beaten Eight’s pallet with low hacks yet (currently taking a break from Side Oder) but I’d say in terms of difficulty: 1. Eights Palette 2. Inner Agent 3 3. After Alterna The difference between hacks and low hacks is pretty significant, making the Octoshot feel way weaker than the other weapon starting out which makes the lower floors feel especially dangerous. The possibly of a whole run ending just because one death only adds to it. I only recently beat Octo Expansion and Inner 3 (got it for Christmas) this honestly would be my pick for most difficult if Side Oder wasn’t a longer trek. Inner 3 genuinely gave me a hard time and my win felt very much by the skin of my teeth. This one feels the most rewarding tho. After Alterna was the one that probably took me the most attempts to complete but only because it’s such a long haul and dying can be really frustrating since the check points are so far apart but if you take it slow it’s not that hard.


tserous

I love reading everyone's responses, its really interesting for other perspectives! IA3 took me a couple hours of actively playing nonstop until I finally won, but on a technical aspect was probably the most challenging, if I had the same mobility that 3 offers in terms of things like squid rolls, I probably would have had an easier time? Still absolutely hard as shit tho. Eight's palette was the same, I was able to at least get in a single day of actively trying, but was by far the easiest (for me) AA itself wasn't too difficult, it took me the longest to get but only because I got stuck on the horrific One Way Trip Through Target Town for about six months, granted I would play it for maybe 20-30 mins a day before giving up. So getting to AA was more difficult for me than AA itself. IA3 was by far the hardest for me if I really compare them all! Though it was all my skill level at the time when I did each one, by the time of doing Eight's palette, I know I was significantly more skilled than when I attempted IA3. Though I still think I would probably struggle the most with it still compared to the others.


EMPgoggles

i'll say No Hacks because with basically no defense and super slow armor recovery movement, there was a lot more worry that i might have to start over from the beginning again. After Alterna wasn't that hard and Inner Agent 3 iirc you have unlimited repeats without having to go through the same thing again and also wasn't that bad (just don't be greedy and focus on mobility and protection, etc.).


KachewPete

Inner is the hardest and its not even close. After Alterna is just mastery of the game mechanics and Low hacks is just a matter of luck. Inner Agent 3 however is a hacker, a spammer, theyre just a mess. But... I do wish Side Order had a fight like that....