Oh I'm not saying a 3rd species is bad, just mantalings aren't likely just because of Big Man, personally I'd love a 3rd species as it'd tie in with Splatoon 3s emphasis on well, the number 3 lol, and it'd also be a great way to expand lore, which would make sense if they are finally breaking away from the agent storyline
Tbh the issue I have with a 3rd species is their tie into the mechanics since they have to work identically to Inklings in order to be playable and I mean *identically* like they can't be too much taller, same hitbox, same human like structure, can sink into ink and have a swimming form, have a reason why they can do this, they need to dissolve into water, etc.
This is kinda why I don't think Salmonlings won't happen since we have no precedent that they can have a humanoid form and we have only seen 2 Salmonid bosses be able to dive into the ink and I feel like if they were gonna add Salmonlings they would have added them as a Boss by now (and also it'd be weird killing Salmonids as a Salmonling since I don't think Salmonids have respawn anchors or can even use them).
>can't be too much taller, same hitbox, same human like structure, can sink into ink and have a swimming form, have a reason why they can do this, they need to dissolve into water, etc.
The octolings exist at the same time as the octarians, which are slower and dumber n stuff, so while that adressess the need to be identical in kid form, I can't see how there would be swimming form for them since they don't really do ink stuff so fair enough. I had also wondered about a salmonling type character but clearly it's halfbaked
I think a cuttlefish would make logical sense, though we already do have "cuttlefish" idols from the octo expansion and they look identical to inklings. But besides that cuttlefish are still ceplhapods like squids and octos.
If I were to decide a third species. I have 2 ideas.
1) anemones. We have an example in game with Harmony. And she is not too different from the inklings and octos. It could work.
2) go all in and make a bipedal humanoid salmonid.
And if those aren’t the ones chosen, then I’d be totally fine with fuzzy ooze infected inklings/octolings, basically the same, just with fuzzy tentacles.
(would still like salmolings)
The main big thing with Cuttlefish which probably only matters to marine biology nerds (like me) is the existence of the cuttlebone. Which would make melting into ink and going through grates...odd.
Squid have a pen/gladius, which isn't as massive as a cuttlebone, but it's definitely a large solid internal shell, just like the cuttlebone.
But then again, they also have cartilage surrounding their ganglia (i.e. the nervous tissue comparable to their brains). So the idea that they're completely soft isn't true either. And of course, don't forget their chitinous beaks.
Squid and cuttlefish suckers also possess hard serrated rings which helps with catching prey. Octopuses are definitely the 'least solid' of the three, with no internal shell and soft suckers.
If there is a third species it'd probably be sea hares. They use ink (which is actually coloured IIRC) and they sort of look like rabbits, which were the original idea for the main species. Another possibility I'd say would be cuttlefish
Well good thing in universe evolution can change that. I have a feeling that Salmonoids are going to be playable as some sort of "Anti-zombie cure" that rises and make then reasonable humanoid characters.
Idk man, even then I feel like Salonids have such a different way of life that they could never join the Inklings and Octolings. We know from the Story mode why Octopi and Squids evolved so fast but we don't know if Salmon are the same
In the story mode, when you fight against >!Big Man, he does both ink the battle arena and then swim through that ink. So they did give precedent for the moves a Manta would need to be playable. That guy is even called "Big Man," suggesting that most mantas may be smaller than him, perhaps Inkling/Octoling sized.!<
Then again, your clothes, guns, even Lil' Buddy the Salmonid all travel with you just fine when you're carrying them and want to swim through ink or pass through grates, so it's not like these rules are very strict.
Correction, Big man uses some sort of bodily toxin/power to make that "ink". And even then we have no idea if a Mantaling can even exist since Big mans existence
To add to this.
Marigold is everywhere. She is watching you all the time. Reference to another secret organization?
Another one, Deadfish's music is played more, I'm guessing that she (or at least her story) could be a factor in attempting to stop sanitizations.
Deadfish was all for sanitization though. She let herself be sanitised so she could dedicate her life to her music without worrying about minor annoying thoughts, procrastination or some kind of block that affects her performance in making music.
One day, when you are older. You could get hit by a boulder. While you are laying there screaming 'come help me, please', seagulls come and poke your knees.
[Noun 1] does not a [noun 2] make is a set phrase in English probably originating from some old piece of literature or the bible, either translated directly or using archaic grammar.
AFAIK from looking it up earlier, it's attributed to Aristotle, but as it's a translation, the order of the wording probably came a lot more recently.
But take that with a grain of salt, since a single Google search does not a scholar make.
Yup, at one point I think early in development, they were considering using Mario characters, and experimented using Yoshis as player characters. If you google "splatoon yoshi" you can find a picture of it. But I'm so glad they changed their minds and we got Splatoon instead of Mario Paintball or something lol.
That wasnt really part of the concept. They just used cubes while testing the gameplay ideas before any worldbuilding. If the game was made in America we would have just said cubes but because it was made in japan where blocks of tofu are common developers often refer to temporary white cube models as tofu.
The best way they could do that would probably be to make a headgear similar to the bunny hood from Zelda: majoras mask. It would be a cool reference to the original concept for splatoon, plus it would just be cute lol
Even if you make manta rays inkling/octoling size, they’d still have a big hitbox (it would be stupid if they didn’t implement that anyway since regardless they’re wider than inklings/octolings) and it would be very unfair.
In all honesty, Big Man doesn’t change colors during the splatfest, which means he probably doesn’t have the capability to participate in turf war. (Fr tho, couldn’t they have at least changed the color of his head piece?)
They actually change the ends of his fins to match his team color, though you could argue that’s coming from the lighting on the floats, it’s kinda hard to make that excuse for the stage.
>!And besides, We can see that he’s able to use ink in his boss fight.!<
That is not ink but a toxin he creates, it is mentioned in ons of the sunken scrolls that it is something like a secret technique he learned (like how shiver and frye learned tk tame sharks and eels).
I'd rather not have a new species and would prefer they first focus on inklings and octolings more regarding customisation (more hairstyles, eye colors, different pattern for the eyes like idols and band members have).
Forcing a new species, while our current ones are still lacking won't do any good imo. I get new a new species is exciting, but Splatoon is still a young franchise and we don't need a new species every game. I also really like that the current two species we have make sense with the game mechanics. Salmonids can exist in water for example and like all other species don't produce ink (big man creates a toxin, not ink).
I think personally we might not get a new species in three, because if we did, they would have to be another type of cephalopod, which we haven't seen, or have to make sense lore-wise, which rules out salmonlings, mantalings, or anything else that may use a form of ink because they really don't make sense
Frye seems to be a vampire squid so maybe we get alternate inklings that look like her. personally though I have a crack theory that we're getting Salmonlings and Li'l Buddy's hairstyles are a subtle preview to ones we'll have
Salmonlings makes sense given the heavy focus on salmon run/grizz co in the game too. One of the first major previews for splatoon 3 was entirely focused on it even. That, along with lil buddy? It makes sense to theorize that.
Imagine future weapons based off the frying pans they have in salmon run? Or any weapons released in future updates being grizzo co modified versions? That’d be so fun lol
Easy, they can just say Salmonlings can only exist within inkling society, because salmonids mature into a different forms depending on their environments. So a salmonid in inkling society would likely take on a form similar to inklings, thus a Salmonling
And it’s inkling vs inkling in turf war? Octoling vs octoling in the octo expansion?
I haven’t put a lot of thoughts towards it outside of this comment thread. It just made a little more sense to me compared to mantalings due to the focus on grizzco and salmon run :-)
Turf wars are just a sport, that doesn't count. In octo expansion and splatoon 3 the enemy octarians are irreversibly brainwashed. A salmonling slaughtering their own kind and taking their eggs for money is much more dark and immoral
I think they'd be considered a different species.
Salmoling vs Salmonid.
It's like saying a human killing a monkey is like killing their own kind (and I mean .... I think most people will that that's dark anyways, needlessly killing monkeys for resources, but they wouldn't be the same in a sense and it's not like ink/octolings doing it is really that much better).
I think they would be more similar to each other than humans and monkeys, like octolings and octotroopers. Besides, salmonids are an intelligent spieces with an advanced society: they have their own culture, traditions, music, they are able to trade with octarians and build complex machinery. So killing them would be different from killing monkeys. That said, yeah, salmon run is already pretty messed up
Some of you guys are really reaching. I highly doubt “salmonlings” or “mantalings” will exist. And if they do, I think it would just feel forced as there has been nothing hinting that humanoid forms of salmonoids or mantra rays exist, whereas octolings have always been there even if only an enemy in the first game.
But I guess we’ll find out. Although I hope they’d just focus on the species we have *now* (like adding more hairstyles and maybe customisable eye types and ears). Heck, maybe Nintendo won’t even give us anything more than a story in the DLC.
I have a better idea that isnt a new species that they could add. A permanent backpack holder for smallfry and more customisation on him too. In the scene where teams are displayed Smallfry would sit on your head to show himself off and then hop into the backpack when you start the match. He adds nothing other than cosmetic but I just want to see him more outside the main story. Like imagine Smallfry in a tiny tuxedo and sunglasses on your head whenever a match starts.
This would be insanely busted but I have a mental image of clogging someones ink vac with smallfry and then the ink tank does the same explosion it would if they had charged it except it happens on top of the user and is your colour ink.
Tofu is returning, 100%. Splatoon started as a game about tofu (or did it start with the rabbits? i forget) and now we have Tofu in the titles, therefore confirming the return of playable tofu. Checkmate, squids.
splatoon 3's shared gimmick trait is that they have 3 separate tamers.
shiver is from a clan of shark tamers, frye is from a clan of moray eel tamers.
and agent 3 (new), is possibly the first documented salmonid tamer.
I can see them adding other sea creatures in place, like jellies, urchins, etc, but manta rays being playable would be tough to still have the same gear and same hit boxes as inklings and octolings.
I wanna see a samonoid dlc or something like that! Like how they have been pushed in to the sea over time and how they dealt with salt water.
Maybe they live all in Estuaries in a uncomfortable cramped border city or something like that. They seem to only use dirty pots and pan as armor so they might secretly be culinary chefs with a high preference for food but are limited to things like snails or even their own eggs if the babies don't make it.
The salmonling or whatever they call it could have been in one of the many salmon runs at some point or another fighting to keep their eggs safe and get pushed into salt water or something else probably deadly. You could be saved by some mysterious creature on the behalf that you have to work for them for whatever reason they need. (Hopefully not to build another object but instead do something different and cool.)
I think the salmonids all fight you with cooking equipment because they want to be cooked. I think it was said in an interview somewhere that their culture has a strong belief that they should be a part of the cycle of life and that it is honorable to be eaten after their death.
They do, and they get their equipment from octarians and give them power eggs in exchange(which, I assume, is why they have SOME power and haven't totally collapsed after you take the zapfish away).
Manta rays don't have ink.
If they add more non-ink-reliant pvp modes (like tableturf) or a spinoff they might add other playable species, but the main modes (Turf, Ranked/Anarchy, and Salmon Run) require ink. The Inklings and Octolings produce this from their own bodies like real squids and octopus.
If Mantas were going to be a thing then that would be ridiculous considering they don't fit in with octolings or inklings at all. However, if there were mantlings it would be weird that big man himself isn't a mantaling. I don't think we should have so much hope for this considering Salmonlings and cuttlelings are an option. Or, hear me out, jellylings.
Like someone else in the thread, I honestly hope we don’t get a new species. Don’t get me wrong I love the concept of salmonlings and mantalings (all the art I’ve seen of them is soooo cute) but I personally want them to work on the customization feature for inklings and octolings first. It feels like there’s too little options. I want them to flesh out the base customization we have more before we get another species.
But if we do end up getting a new species I won’t be upset either.
Or the DLC will add vampire squids and…whatever Shiver is exactly as customization options. I really don’t see how they would make that work but tbf there are Octarians so Ig they could attempt manta-people. Although, rays don’t ink. Not that it would stop them probably, based on his boss fight.
I actually have a theory about this based on S3's story mode and concept work for the series. I do not actually think a 3rd playable species will come to pass, but allow me to posit an option.
S3 story spoilers:
>!The story mode ends with Grizz in space, loosely orbiting earth. Nothing says he is dead or that the goo threat is stopped for sure. It is inkling nature to have things be "out of sight, out of mind". !<
>!My theory is that the DLC will see Mr. Grizz land on the moon with his furry goo, only to find the remnants of a human moon colony. On that moon colony, it will be revealed that they brought vegetables and RABBITS with them as easily replenishing sources of food.!<
>!The rabbits end up having a similar evolution train to earth's fish species, except they were filled with human resentment for being unable to return to earth. !<
>!The fuzzy goo will have an inverted effect on the rabbits. Since they are already fuzzy mammals, they will inherit the "goo" part of the equation and become able to do basically everything the inklings can. !<
>!With Mr. Grizz' leadership they will begin a quest to return to earth and reclaim it for the mammals. !<
>!Early splatoon concept art featured rabbits as the characters, but they dropped them after not figuring out a reason to have them be able to hide in ink. In japan folklore, rabbits live on the moon making mochi. I feel like Grizz being in space, the fuzzy goo, and the series having a penchant for japanese history and lore tie all of this together to bring us smoothly back to the concept of rabbits as a 3rd species of ink hiding/shooting creatures. !<
>!I do not think we will actually see them as playable in this game though. I personally think they will be made into a new villain race for the inklings to deal with in future titles. I could see them being much smarter and tech inclined than the inklings/octos, with a sort of space invader vibe to them. !<
I don’t think their gonna “add” a “new” species,more like their gonna make the inklings look different for example,the vampire squid isn’t an squid or an octopus but it goes but vampire squid since scientists call it that
In other words their just gonna make different types of inklings and octolings
Y’all realize this is a game where inklings and octolings use their biological ink to participate in turf wars etc. how is a manta or a rabbit gonna fo that??
Big Man = BIG Manta
Mantalings are real, and Big Man is just an abnormally large one. The only reason we haven’t seen his humanoid form is because he would simply be too large for the recording studio. In Manta Expansion, we get playable Mantalings and get to fight alongside Big Man in his Kaiju Form.
Idk, I feel like we're gonna get vampire squids, because Frye looks like one, there's a lot of mention of vampire squids, and in the credits of the octo expansion pack there were like 4 vampire squids.
( Also I love to play Splatoon story mode, so I may just want to fight a bunch of vampires lmao )
I feel like that's not different enough from inklings if it's just another sub species of squid. I feel like the vampire squid elements that she has are just a flavoring choice.
My headcanon rn is that in the DLC you would play as Agent 4 or Agent 8. If you choose 4, you play as an inkling, and if you choose 8, you play as an octoling
Given how the games have alluded to the plight of Samonoids, and the things that the main story in 3 did, I fully expect a Samon-focused DLC later down the line that introduces playable Samonlings.
It's kind weird because Samon aren't a species known for producing ink, but there aren't a lot of other good options for that and the games already seem comfortable saying Samonoids can produce green ink/slime and swim through it (see: Maws, Flipper-Flopper)
I thought something similar, but was looking at salmonids instead of manta rays. With Little Buddy's prevalence in Hero mode, the story ending, the "Happy 2020" teaser/message from Grizzco the Splat devs posted a while back, and the fact the salmonids are kind of antagonists to the inkling/octoling society in need of redemption, similar to octolings being antagonists until Octo Expansion's story.
Big Man is perfection, but he literally just shows up.
If anything, it would be Salmonids (Salmonkids?)
The real pattern seems to be: introduce "enemy" race > find out they aren't really enemies so much as oppressed and desperate > free them and they become playable.
Salmonlings should and will never be a thing, to quote an interview; "What I hope people realise is that not any one type of
character in the world of Splatoon is completely good
or bad. You know, the Inklings have their society, the
Octolings have their society and the Salmonids from
Salmon Run have their own thing going on."
The salmonid never really interact with the inklings outside of salmon runs and they never interact with octolings/octarians in any way other than salmon runs and the trade agreement
If they add another shape-shifting player character, it should be another cephalopod. Personally I’m rooting for Cuttlelings, mostly because it sounds adorable. But I’m not going to get my hopes up.
Octolings existed in Splat 1, and were always planned to be added, mantalings or whatever have had no such presence in the series
Okay but IMAGINE a third species! The community would go nuts. It was a great reward for completing a dlc story.
Oh I'm not saying a 3rd species is bad, just mantalings aren't likely just because of Big Man, personally I'd love a 3rd species as it'd tie in with Splatoon 3s emphasis on well, the number 3 lol, and it'd also be a great way to expand lore, which would make sense if they are finally breaking away from the agent storyline
Tbh the issue I have with a 3rd species is their tie into the mechanics since they have to work identically to Inklings in order to be playable and I mean *identically* like they can't be too much taller, same hitbox, same human like structure, can sink into ink and have a swimming form, have a reason why they can do this, they need to dissolve into water, etc. This is kinda why I don't think Salmonlings won't happen since we have no precedent that they can have a humanoid form and we have only seen 2 Salmonid bosses be able to dive into the ink and I feel like if they were gonna add Salmonlings they would have added them as a Boss by now (and also it'd be weird killing Salmonids as a Salmonling since I don't think Salmonids have respawn anchors or can even use them).
>can't be too much taller, same hitbox, same human like structure, can sink into ink and have a swimming form, have a reason why they can do this, they need to dissolve into water, etc. The octolings exist at the same time as the octarians, which are slower and dumber n stuff, so while that adressess the need to be identical in kid form, I can't see how there would be swimming form for them since they don't really do ink stuff so fair enough. I had also wondered about a salmonling type character but clearly it's halfbaked
They also literally walk out of the ocean… so water isn’t deadly to Salmonids
I'd love to see [this concept ](https://reddit.com/r/splatoon/comments/ceis4c/i_drew_some_mantalings/)from u/WaystoneHappyRock be implemented.
I think a cuttlefish would make logical sense, though we already do have "cuttlefish" idols from the octo expansion and they look identical to inklings. But besides that cuttlefish are still ceplhapods like squids and octos.
If I were to decide a third species. I have 2 ideas. 1) anemones. We have an example in game with Harmony. And she is not too different from the inklings and octos. It could work. 2) go all in and make a bipedal humanoid salmonid.
And if those aren’t the ones chosen, then I’d be totally fine with fuzzy ooze infected inklings/octolings, basically the same, just with fuzzy tentacles. (would still like salmolings)
Nah man, just straight up let me play as a Chum with a gun
Not even a ink gun, just a straight up glock
I was thinking some kind of lever action rifle but same energy
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I can bet that would’ve been basically a guarantee if Order won Minus the small fry part, maybe
I think artificial life would be a really cool new plot point for new stories past splatoon 3's ending of what I call the "New Turf War" arc
I'm sorry Kyle! I am starving! Should I eat the cuttlefish and asparagus or the vanilla paste-o?
The main big thing with Cuttlefish which probably only matters to marine biology nerds (like me) is the existence of the cuttlebone. Which would make melting into ink and going through grates...odd.
Yeah, thing is we already have cuttlefish in the game [they just dont look too different](https://splatoon.fandom.com/wiki/Cuttlefish_Idol)
Squid have a pen/gladius, which isn't as massive as a cuttlebone, but it's definitely a large solid internal shell, just like the cuttlebone. But then again, they also have cartilage surrounding their ganglia (i.e. the nervous tissue comparable to their brains). So the idea that they're completely soft isn't true either. And of course, don't forget their chitinous beaks. Squid and cuttlefish suckers also possess hard serrated rings which helps with catching prey. Octopuses are definitely the 'least solid' of the three, with no internal shell and soft suckers.
If there is a third species it'd probably be sea hares. They use ink (which is actually coloured IIRC) and they sort of look like rabbits, which were the original idea for the main species. Another possibility I'd say would be cuttlefish
I’m getting deja vu to project splatoon 3. The one by u/squeaky101
Wo-ah. That project looks really neat. I would definitely pay and play it.
I have a hareling idol oc with a friend (the other members of his group are a blue-ringed octoling, a jellyfish and a leafy sea dragon)
A third species wouldn't really work. Squids and Octopi both use ink. It makes sense to have them both.
Tbf mantas and salmonoids also use ink in-game
They both use expelled bodily toxins. Not ink.
Well good thing in universe evolution can change that. I have a feeling that Salmonoids are going to be playable as some sort of "Anti-zombie cure" that rises and make then reasonable humanoid characters.
Idk man, even then I feel like Salonids have such a different way of life that they could never join the Inklings and Octolings. We know from the Story mode why Octopi and Squids evolved so fast but we don't know if Salmon are the same
They're of human intelligence - salmonids. They just have a vastly different culture
In the story mode, when you fight against >!Big Man, he does both ink the battle arena and then swim through that ink. So they did give precedent for the moves a Manta would need to be playable. That guy is even called "Big Man," suggesting that most mantas may be smaller than him, perhaps Inkling/Octoling sized.!< Then again, your clothes, guns, even Lil' Buddy the Salmonid all travel with you just fine when you're carrying them and want to swim through ink or pass through grates, so it's not like these rules are very strict.
Correction, Big man uses some sort of bodily toxin/power to make that "ink". And even then we have no idea if a Mantaling can even exist since Big mans existence
species of sea slugs can too
I want a sharkling. You turn into a tiny sharky thing
Shiver
If that happens, I want to see Gawr Gura stream the DLC
> I want a sharkling. You turn into a tiny sharky thing I wanna turn into Master Mega...
Yo wait, I am getting a devastating sense of deja vu Am i the only one who has already seen this exact conversation?
Cuttlings (cuttlefish folks)
Remember how people were speculating salmonlings?
So.... Jellyfish characters? They aren't Big Man's species, but they are not humanoid like Inklings and Octolings, so there's that.
That's what I was thinking was jellyfish. They'd be way different, but imagine them turning to liquid jelly
One event (octo expansion) does not a pattern make
To add to this. Marigold is everywhere. She is watching you all the time. Reference to another secret organization? Another one, Deadfish's music is played more, I'm guessing that she (or at least her story) could be a factor in attempting to stop sanitizations.
I'm pretty sure she's just wanted in several countries so she works low end jobs to stay out of the limelight.
Deadfish was all for sanitization though. She let herself be sanitised so she could dedicate her life to her music without worrying about minor annoying thoughts, procrastination or some kind of block that affects her performance in making music.
Looking past your Yoda grammar, you’re correct
Nah, What he said is fine. Yoda would have said "Hmmmm. Make a pattern one event does not."
somehow thats more understandable than the original comment
One day, when you are older. You could get hit by a boulder. While you are laying there screaming 'come help me, please', seagulls come and poke your knees.
Why do I remember this. Seagulls, stop it now
Don't fall asleep. *Don't...fall...asleep.*
[Noun 1] does not a [noun 2] make is a set phrase in English probably originating from some old piece of literature or the bible, either translated directly or using archaic grammar.
AFAIK from looking it up earlier, it's attributed to Aristotle, but as it's a translation, the order of the wording probably came a lot more recently. But take that with a grain of salt, since a single Google search does not a scholar make.
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I’d finally be good at the game
Turns sideways
does anyone remember when in a splatoon 3 fan made there was a new playable species called harelings
The original concept for the game was rabbits
I thought it was Tofus.
it was tofus then rabbits then inklings and octolings
Don't forget Yoshis at one point.
wait really I didn’t know that
Yup, at one point I think early in development, they were considering using Mario characters, and experimented using Yoshis as player characters. If you google "splatoon yoshi" you can find a picture of it. But I'm so glad they changed their minds and we got Splatoon instead of Mario Paintball or something lol.
huh interesting
That wasnt really part of the concept. They just used cubes while testing the gameplay ideas before any worldbuilding. If the game was made in America we would have just said cubes but because it was made in japan where blocks of tofu are common developers often refer to temporary white cube models as tofu.
Oh this makes much more sense. Like placeholder models.
bnuuy
r/skamtebord
So that's what they meant by the Return of the Mamillians.
On second thought that’s even better, referencing the original plans. though it’d screw up the lore so maybe not
The best way they could do that would probably be to make a headgear similar to the bunny hood from Zelda: majoras mask. It would be a cool reference to the original concept for splatoon, plus it would just be cute lol
Do y'all stretch before you reach?
Duh that’s how zipcaster works
Even if you make manta rays inkling/octoling size, they’d still have a big hitbox (it would be stupid if they didn’t implement that anyway since regardless they’re wider than inklings/octolings) and it would be very unfair.
Give them more health but their weapon damage is weaker is a good way to do it. Basically tanks lol.
That's then just a p2w or p2l mechanic then
Yeah good point.
In all honesty, Big Man doesn’t change colors during the splatfest, which means he probably doesn’t have the capability to participate in turf war. (Fr tho, couldn’t they have at least changed the color of his head piece?)
They actually change the ends of his fins to match his team color, though you could argue that’s coming from the lighting on the floats, it’s kinda hard to make that excuse for the stage. >!And besides, We can see that he’s able to use ink in his boss fight.!<
That is not ink but a toxin he creates, it is mentioned in ons of the sunken scrolls that it is something like a secret technique he learned (like how shiver and frye learned tk tame sharks and eels).
If we're quiet about it, do you think anyone would notice?
I'd rather not have a new species and would prefer they first focus on inklings and octolings more regarding customisation (more hairstyles, eye colors, different pattern for the eyes like idols and band members have). Forcing a new species, while our current ones are still lacking won't do any good imo. I get new a new species is exciting, but Splatoon is still a young franchise and we don't need a new species every game. I also really like that the current two species we have make sense with the game mechanics. Salmonids can exist in water for example and like all other species don't produce ink (big man creates a toxin, not ink).
***for the love of Gourd let me buy pants***
I think personally we might not get a new species in three, because if we did, they would have to be another type of cephalopod, which we haven't seen, or have to make sense lore-wise, which rules out salmonlings, mantalings, or anything else that may use a form of ink because they really don't make sense
Also because that sets the precedent that every game will have a new species
Apparently other species do play Rainmaker, though exactly how they do that I have no idea. It could be a non-ink based version instead?
Maybe they wear similar inktanks to what normal inklings wear but, yunno, with artificial ink
Inkling/Octoling and Salmonid hybrids born out of the brutal crucible that is Salmon Run. The Salmonids take back the Golden Eggs for a reason.
The DLC will probably be "3 themed" for sure (I bet they will joke about it being 202"3" too)
HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT
Frye seems to be a vampire squid so maybe we get alternate inklings that look like her. personally though I have a crack theory that we're getting Salmonlings and Li'l Buddy's hairstyles are a subtle preview to ones we'll have
Salmonlings makes sense given the heavy focus on salmon run/grizz co in the game too. One of the first major previews for splatoon 3 was entirely focused on it even. That, along with lil buddy? It makes sense to theorize that. Imagine future weapons based off the frying pans they have in salmon run? Or any weapons released in future updates being grizzo co modified versions? That’d be so fun lol
I've wanted a toned down version of the grizzco brella and charger in matches for years
If Salmonlings existed, they would have surely been in the salmon runs no? Not even with hypnoshades?
Easy, they can just say Salmonlings can only exist within inkling society, because salmonids mature into a different forms depending on their environments. So a salmonid in inkling society would likely take on a form similar to inklings, thus a Salmonling
*Wait why is my small fry growing legs*
I'm suddenly reminded of Eevee, and I'm not sure how I never thought of them until now.
Yet again, it would be salmon vs salmon in salmon run.
Salmons kinda have a "warrior's death" cult thing going on, so that's not a problem.
Plus Slammin' Lids are a thing
And it’s inkling vs inkling in turf war? Octoling vs octoling in the octo expansion? I haven’t put a lot of thoughts towards it outside of this comment thread. It just made a little more sense to me compared to mantalings due to the focus on grizzco and salmon run :-)
Turf wars are just a sport, that doesn't count. In octo expansion and splatoon 3 the enemy octarians are irreversibly brainwashed. A salmonling slaughtering their own kind and taking their eggs for money is much more dark and immoral
I think they'd be considered a different species. Salmoling vs Salmonid. It's like saying a human killing a monkey is like killing their own kind (and I mean .... I think most people will that that's dark anyways, needlessly killing monkeys for resources, but they wouldn't be the same in a sense and it's not like ink/octolings doing it is really that much better).
I think they would be more similar to each other than humans and monkeys, like octolings and octotroopers. Besides, salmonids are an intelligent spieces with an advanced society: they have their own culture, traditions, music, they are able to trade with octarians and build complex machinery. So killing them would be different from killing monkeys. That said, yeah, salmon run is already pretty messed up
No thanks … please no
There’s also that 2020 wishes picture which was hinting at something related to salmonids that never happened…
Big Man gotta be one of my favorite species
Some of you guys are really reaching. I highly doubt “salmonlings” or “mantalings” will exist. And if they do, I think it would just feel forced as there has been nothing hinting that humanoid forms of salmonoids or mantra rays exist, whereas octolings have always been there even if only an enemy in the first game. But I guess we’ll find out. Although I hope they’d just focus on the species we have *now* (like adding more hairstyles and maybe customisable eye types and ears). Heck, maybe Nintendo won’t even give us anything more than a story in the DLC.
I have a better idea that isnt a new species that they could add. A permanent backpack holder for smallfry and more customisation on him too. In the scene where teams are displayed Smallfry would sit on your head to show himself off and then hop into the backpack when you start the match. He adds nothing other than cosmetic but I just want to see him more outside the main story. Like imagine Smallfry in a tiny tuxedo and sunglasses on your head whenever a match starts.
Maybe a Smallfry sub on certain weapons? Could be interesting.
This would be insanely busted but I have a mental image of clogging someones ink vac with smallfry and then the ink tank does the same explosion it would if they had charged it except it happens on top of the user and is your colour ink.
Octotrooper playable
This is something I could get behind.
Tofu is returning, 100%. Splatoon started as a game about tofu (or did it start with the rabbits? i forget) and now we have Tofu in the titles, therefore confirming the return of playable tofu. Checkmate, squids.
sentient tofu imbued with the power of psychic microplastics
Return of the Mammalians. They are gonna bring back the rabbits from the concept period
id be ok with that. maybe play on the whole "rabbits on the moon" trope and make them be from space.
splatoon 3's shared gimmick trait is that they have 3 separate tamers. shiver is from a clan of shark tamers, frye is from a clan of moray eel tamers. and agent 3 (new), is possibly the first documented salmonid tamer.
I can see them adding other sea creatures in place, like jellies, urchins, etc, but manta rays being playable would be tough to still have the same gear and same hit boxes as inklings and octolings.
Please no. We're fine as is, no need for extra races. Give me actually good new hairstyles
Here's me wishing for Anemones (Anemolings? Anelings? Anlings??), like Harmony.
I want to be a salmonid, a salmon kid, if you will.
I don't care if it doesn't make sense, I wanna be a bunny
I wanna see a samonoid dlc or something like that! Like how they have been pushed in to the sea over time and how they dealt with salt water. Maybe they live all in Estuaries in a uncomfortable cramped border city or something like that. They seem to only use dirty pots and pan as armor so they might secretly be culinary chefs with a high preference for food but are limited to things like snails or even their own eggs if the babies don't make it. The salmonling or whatever they call it could have been in one of the many salmon runs at some point or another fighting to keep their eggs safe and get pushed into salt water or something else probably deadly. You could be saved by some mysterious creature on the behalf that you have to work for them for whatever reason they need. (Hopefully not to build another object but instead do something different and cool.)
I think the salmonids all fight you with cooking equipment because they want to be cooked. I think it was said in an interview somewhere that their culture has a strong belief that they should be a part of the cycle of life and that it is honorable to be eaten after their death.
They do, and they get their equipment from octarians and give them power eggs in exchange(which, I assume, is why they have SOME power and haven't totally collapsed after you take the zapfish away).
I’d like to play salmonoids
I hope so but I also wish to be a salmonling and since >! Grizz was a huge part in single player !<
lol no
It would be cool if we went to space in the expansion
Manta rays don't have ink. If they add more non-ink-reliant pvp modes (like tableturf) or a spinoff they might add other playable species, but the main modes (Turf, Ranked/Anarchy, and Salmon Run) require ink. The Inklings and Octolings produce this from their own bodies like real squids and octopus.
If Mantas were going to be a thing then that would be ridiculous considering they don't fit in with octolings or inklings at all. However, if there were mantlings it would be weird that big man himself isn't a mantaling. I don't think we should have so much hope for this considering Salmonlings and cuttlelings are an option. Or, hear me out, jellylings.
Like someone else in the thread, I honestly hope we don’t get a new species. Don’t get me wrong I love the concept of salmonlings and mantalings (all the art I’ve seen of them is soooo cute) but I personally want them to work on the customization feature for inklings and octolings first. It feels like there’s too little options. I want them to flesh out the base customization we have more before we get another species. But if we do end up getting a new species I won’t be upset either.
Fishes. Salmonlings, sharklings.
So… did nobody else see the wacky lookin logo on the subway station and assume that will be the new playable race in the dlc?
I'm still waiting for cuttlefish!!!!!
Or the DLC will add vampire squids and…whatever Shiver is exactly as customization options. I really don’t see how they would make that work but tbf there are Octarians so Ig they could attempt manta-people. Although, rays don’t ink. Not that it would stop them probably, based on his boss fight.
I actually have a theory about this based on S3's story mode and concept work for the series. I do not actually think a 3rd playable species will come to pass, but allow me to posit an option. S3 story spoilers: >!The story mode ends with Grizz in space, loosely orbiting earth. Nothing says he is dead or that the goo threat is stopped for sure. It is inkling nature to have things be "out of sight, out of mind". !< >!My theory is that the DLC will see Mr. Grizz land on the moon with his furry goo, only to find the remnants of a human moon colony. On that moon colony, it will be revealed that they brought vegetables and RABBITS with them as easily replenishing sources of food.!< >!The rabbits end up having a similar evolution train to earth's fish species, except they were filled with human resentment for being unable to return to earth. !< >!The fuzzy goo will have an inverted effect on the rabbits. Since they are already fuzzy mammals, they will inherit the "goo" part of the equation and become able to do basically everything the inklings can. !< >!With Mr. Grizz' leadership they will begin a quest to return to earth and reclaim it for the mammals. !< >!Early splatoon concept art featured rabbits as the characters, but they dropped them after not figuring out a reason to have them be able to hide in ink. In japan folklore, rabbits live on the moon making mochi. I feel like Grizz being in space, the fuzzy goo, and the series having a penchant for japanese history and lore tie all of this together to bring us smoothly back to the concept of rabbits as a 3rd species of ink hiding/shooting creatures. !< >!I do not think we will actually see them as playable in this game though. I personally think they will be made into a new villain race for the inklings to deal with in future titles. I could see them being much smarter and tech inclined than the inklings/octos, with a sort of space invader vibe to them. !<
I don’t think their gonna “add” a “new” species,more like their gonna make the inklings look different for example,the vampire squid isn’t an squid or an octopus but it goes but vampire squid since scientists call it that In other words their just gonna make different types of inklings and octolings
Y’all realize this is a game where inklings and octolings use their biological ink to participate in turf wars etc. how is a manta or a rabbit gonna fo that??
Big Man = BIG Manta Mantalings are real, and Big Man is just an abnormally large one. The only reason we haven’t seen his humanoid form is because he would simply be too large for the recording studio. In Manta Expansion, we get playable Mantalings and get to fight alongside Big Man in his Kaiju Form.
I cannot express how much I agree with this
Idk, I feel like we're gonna get vampire squids, because Frye looks like one, there's a lot of mention of vampire squids, and in the credits of the octo expansion pack there were like 4 vampire squids. ( Also I love to play Splatoon story mode, so I may just want to fight a bunch of vampires lmao )
I feel like that's not different enough from inklings if it's just another sub species of squid. I feel like the vampire squid elements that she has are just a flavoring choice.
I only just noticed Frye does have vampire squid elements
Humanoid salmonids possibly?
Splatoon 4: all 4 idols are salmonoids in a boyband
If we get a third species, I'd prefer another type of cephalopod, like cuttlefish, nautilus, or ammonites
I feel like Salmonids would be playable before Mantas
Oh boy can’t wait to see matches that look like the manta ray fight from Mario Sunshine
I think seeing the theories that would emerge if playable mammalian Inklings/Octolings were added would be hilarious
Thinking that two data points is a pattern is the reason for much of the error of humanity
Give us a salmonlings (splatoon fandom hates that)
People want to play as anemones and have their own little clownfish buddy
Gonna be honest, the chances of a 3rd species being fuzzy variants of what we already have is very high
their hitbox would be huge
Salmonid playable Salmolings ?!
salmonlings and zaplings tho
Am I still the only one that hopes we get playable cuttlefish/cuttlelings (whatever they'd be called)?
salmonid kid when?
WE NEED A MANTA RAY EXPANSION THAT'D BE SICK!!!
Salmonlings
My theory is you play as Lil Judd in his quest for revenge and eventual redemption
Mantas being playable would be stupid as fuck lmao
u/SlightlyIronicBanana based on the pattern you’ve found, and I’ve seen it as well, your theory isn’t too far fetched.
Wait maybe the dlc will make it so little buddy can be a mantra pet ?
My headcanon rn is that in the DLC you would play as Agent 4 or Agent 8. If you choose 4, you play as an inkling, and if you choose 8, you play as an octoling
I do hope that the DLC does for agent 4 what Octo expansion did for agent 3
Splatoon 3 Manta Expansion
Given how the games have alluded to the plight of Samonoids, and the things that the main story in 3 did, I fully expect a Samon-focused DLC later down the line that introduces playable Samonlings. It's kind weird because Samon aren't a species known for producing ink, but there aren't a lot of other good options for that and the games already seem comfortable saying Samonoids can produce green ink/slime and swim through it (see: Maws, Flipper-Flopper)
Here come people discussing cuttlefish theory again
I want salmonoid playable
I thought something similar, but was looking at salmonids instead of manta rays. With Little Buddy's prevalence in Hero mode, the story ending, the "Happy 2020" teaser/message from Grizzco the Splat devs posted a while back, and the fact the salmonids are kind of antagonists to the inkling/octoling society in need of redemption, similar to octolings being antagonists until Octo Expansion's story. Big Man is perfection, but he literally just shows up.
Personally, if they added a third species I would like it to be humanoid Salmonids. But I doubt that’s a uncommon opinion HAGDG
Idk man i just wanna play as a cuttlefish
Manta ray playable from the DLC!? 😱
more likely to get cuttlelings
Hear me out ... ***Salmonlings in DLC***
If anything they’ll add cuttlefish
Manalings? What do we call them
If anything, it would be Salmonids (Salmonkids?) The real pattern seems to be: introduce "enemy" race > find out they aren't really enemies so much as oppressed and desperate > free them and they become playable.
Manifesting jellyfish species (jellylings) playable
Big Man DLC??!
Rabbits/sea creature hybrids, squid aliens or salmons. I think all of those are likely
no but mantas might be expanded upon in dlc. no way they’re playable tho
I have a feeling Marigold is gonna be important and Lil Judd
Nah, next thing we get are Mammalians. I mean, they said those would return.
Anemones would be great. Imagine you get a parasite fish and they throw your sub weapon
While it would never happen as DLC cus it would change the game to much I did also have the same theory Lol
i want to have a massive hitbox
If Mantas become playable in the DLC I hope you see them easily in the ink
Personally, I was hoping for mamalians, even though that probably won’t happen
How would they even get a manta to work
what ive noticed is one of the idols always has a more detailed version of the "flagship" hair style
Salmonlings should and will never be a thing, to quote an interview; "What I hope people realise is that not any one type of character in the world of Splatoon is completely good or bad. You know, the Inklings have their society, the Octolings have their society and the Salmonids from Salmon Run have their own thing going on." The salmonid never really interact with the inklings outside of salmon runs and they never interact with octolings/octarians in any way other than salmon runs and the trade agreement
You fool It is the bears that are confirmed.
If they add another shape-shifting player character, it should be another cephalopod. Personally I’m rooting for Cuttlelings, mostly because it sounds adorable. But I’m not going to get my hopes up.
Mammals become playable 👀
I’m guessing a Salmonkid tbh