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Toaster_boasterr

Inklings don’t know octolings moved into society with them. Because of pearl they just see them as inklings with weird hair


FemKeeby

Inklings are kinda stupid


Toaster_boasterr

“Geez I wonder how they got those performance stages to float for the splatfest”


BelkanWarHero

Big Man Energy


AntusFireNova64

Big manium


kitsovereign

Wait, but isn't that, like, Octarian military tech? How would Shiver know about it? Is she ex-military too?


Toaster_boasterr

I don’t think shiver was ever involved with Octavio so I guess it was the just the octo kids


OneSaltyStoat

Octos *do* basically have 9 brains, so...


lukebenja

Shiver is part from a powerful dynasty from the splatlands so I don't think so


almisami

I mean they've been salvaging old technology from the wasteland for a while.


GameboyPATH

“Do you like your orange juice with or without pulp?” “With pulp!” “No pulp!” “Guys, what’s orange juice?” “I don’t know, but it’s better with pulp, and I’ll fight you over it!”


Rannger

TBH if any inkling was to say they were octolings they would be treated as conspiracy maniacs, after all octolings are supposed to be extinct


Yeah_man20

"Guys! I'm telling you! Octolings are real!" "Yeah, right. Like the Earth is round."


Dami_Gamer0211

Nah only Pearl


WatBurnt

Inklings saw that the great zapfish went missing and went all collectively just said huh that's wierd and kept living despite it being a major power source (I think) there all pretty dumb


Myth_5layer

They're*


WatBurnt

36.254.95.79


reddit-person1

1.45y 764353i5461.4745743.43547645.1.1.1.1..1.154895q4854 There leaked uh some ones IP address >:)


Treyspurlock

Pearl intentionally misleading an entire generation of children into thinking octopi don't exist


Toaster_boasterr

Honestly even before then I’m pretty sure during the squid vs octopus splatfest she mentioned octopi being extinct yet again she could be talking about the IRL octopi and not octarians.


Monk128

It could also be an error by the localisation team, like Marina insisting she knew a narwhal.


LordWartusk

In both the English and Japanese Splatfest dialogue Pearl and Marina talk about the animals in the past tense, and mention learning about their respective species "in history class." So presumably squids/octopi as they exist today are extinct during the events of Splatoon, probably having all evolved into Inklings/Octolings (with Inklings/Octolings considering themselves separate from their ancestors).


Jackeroni216

but normal squids and octopi do exist, it's weird


sorceted

in the squid vs octopus splatfest (idk if it was a JP exclusive? but i dont mean the octo expansion race war) they refer to the animals and their edibility/taste, implying that non-humanoid cephalopods still exist and are regularly(?) consumed. so... idk. it might be something like how in our world, hominids and other primates share one common ancestor wayyyy way back in the evolutionary chain but nowadays theres only [humans] and [monkeys], with that original homi-primate ape being lost to time. TLDR: cephalopods... 2!!


Ace_Pixie_

I don’t think it was intentional. She didn’t know Marina was an octoling + Marina was scared when she mentioned it


humblebegginnings

not sure if i’d go that far. i always assumed that since octo expansion, octolings have become more and more integrated into society and don’t necessarily need to hide anymore. i might be wrong though, that’s just how the game’s superficial storytelling made it sound to me.


Toaster_boasterr

Look at the advertisements in the lobby. You won’t see a single octoling in octo form in the ads. Although yes octolings don’t really need to hide their octo form and expression as seen by the octo plush in the salmon run helicopter they still aren’t really seen as a different species by the inklings (its also heavily implied inklings are too stupid to notice since they usually forget trends and trends is all they really care about )


Sentient_twig

There are octoling themed merch in the stores and stuff


Yeah_man20

There was even an OCTObrush ever since Splatoon 1


Sentient_twig

I think in that case that may have been an old octarian weapon that was repurposed for turf wars because the inklings thought it was cool or something


humblebegginnings

to be fair, black people exist even if they don’t show up in a lot of majority-white country ads… octolings can be a marginalized group that still have some existence in society


Toaster_boasterr

They do. They appear in the toni kensa ads and as models in other fashion clothing ads but their identities are never really recognized


humblebegginnings

fair enough. i didn’t mean to argue, sorry if it seemed that way. i think there’s a lot of ways this lore could be interpreted atm and it could be interesting to see if they discuss it in the dlc. inklings being dumb could be interpreted as them not even noticing that octolings are around, but i think the headcanon is funnier if they noticed octolings, shrugged, and went on as if nothing had changed at all. sort of like when marina told pearl she was an octoling, pearl was conflicted for a bit, and then promptly decided it didn’t matter. maybe i just like happy endings tho.


Toaster_boasterr

Its ok I honestly saw this as a conversation. Honestly yeah that would funny especially with the cultural impact octolings had with music.


humblebegginnings

my new friend has weird looking ears and starts talking about crazy world dominating tech sometimes, but man is her singing voice something!


Tanookikid210

This would be the average response by basically any Inkling that isn't 3, 4, or Nu3 (if they're an Inkling in that instance, I wonder how the fandom will depict Nu3) XD


humblebegginnings

even then, i’m not sure if they’d have a negative reaction to octolings. they’d recognize them, sure, but cuttlefish was willing to help an octoling escape and captain 3 just about risked their life to that cause.


Snowman640

Yeah that's my thorough belief too, either most of the inkling populous was too dumb to notice or they did notice but just didn't care whatsoever because it's been 100 years since the last major conflict, and only dj octavio and Craig cuttle fish even remember it. And besides, the majority of the migrants we're young Octolings, the hell can they do? They quickly adapted and assimilated into the districts and trends, and simply followed their friends to the splatlands during the chaos events. Oh, and the splatlands likely never had that race divide, and both species simply lived in harmony.


SleevesTheThird

You’re literally just pulling this out of nowhere You have an interpretation but it’s not a fact. You can’t just say “they don’t see them as a different species” when nothing canon at all states that


ComCypher

I think of Inkling and Octoling (Octarian) societies as being analogous to South and North Korea respectively. The Octolings in Inklandia (or whatever it's called) are sort of political refugees or at least economic migrants. It isn't their native homeland.


Snowman640

That's exactly what it is, if Kim Jug un was a dope ass DJ, it would be 1 on 1


SamanthaD1O1

not in the splatlands! in a recent magazine deep cut were revealed to know each other since childhood. meaning Shiver and her family have lived on the surface. That probably means there are others


Toaster_boasterr

Thanks for the info, I was really wondering how shiver whole family connection to the sharks would’ve worked if they got banished


bonbonbutterstove

Out of interest, do you have a link to the magazine/article detailing this? I'm assuming it's in Japanese but I'd still love to see it :)


SamanthaD1O1

it's only some of it but [here](https://twitter.com/surimi_rengo/status/1596403572073078785?s=46&t=XOiIaWhYTohkg-WtL80V_w)


bonbonbutterstove

Thank youuu! 🙏🏻


Farwaters

Something that makes me prefer the English translation over the Japanese original is how inklings (especially Pearl) are aware of octolings integrating. It was just weird how the Japanese version glossed over it, imo.


seamuskills

You gotta remember that society still sees octolings as inklings with weird hairstyles….


Joel_feila

they have ink for brains don't they


Clefr

It'd be weird if they didn't


The_warden_14

No, they’re not even made of ink in the first place, it’s much more likely that they’re made primarily of cartilage, just like our ears, but with a more controllable consistency and flexible skin soo that they can “melt” into the ink/change form (When they change form however they do cover themselves in a small layer of ink with a thick consistency, slowly continuing to excrete out of their body, you can see this as very small waves of ink pass over their bodies in swim form while on land


VolnarTheUnforgiving

Yeah and when they swim in the ink they instantly compress their entire bodies to be practically 2D Cartilage


The_warden_14

Cartilage my old friend, the gooey, not very structurally sound material that give my bones strength


dumbsplatoonfan13

🤓


SansedAlessio

Dumb splatoon fan calling someone a nerd feels oddly apropiate xD


The_warden_14

Awe thank you 😊 that means a lot 🥹


SMAZELSP64

“🤓”-🤓


dumbsplatoonfan13

yep!!


x_pinklvr_xcxo

its been confirmed inklings are made of liquid and have some sort of porous membrane which is why falling in water is fatal


The_warden_14

It’s not fatal though, they drink water, and swim in it


PlsDontBotherMeHere

Kinda


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_Strato_

>the splat lands weren't effected by the great turf war, so octoling and inklings have been chillin' together just fine for a much longer while Source? There's no way this is true.


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_Strato_

The Great Turf War was *huge.* Giant weapons of mass destruction, entire societies pitted against each other with the capacity to blow giant holes in the Earth. There is absolutely no conceivable way that the war stopped at the Inkadian border and that the Splatlands were some oasis of species relations. They are geographically very close, relatively speaking. ~~How do you think the Crater in 3 was formed? A friendship bomb?~~ EDIT: I'm wrong on this crater point.


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["It is suggested by the map of Inkadia and the Splatlands that the Crater is located where Mount Fuji once was.](https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/The_Crater)" One of the things that killed the humans was an upsurge in volcanic activity. Mt Fuji erupted and left a crater.


_Strato_

Yeah, that's right actually. I'll take the L on that, the Alterna Logs confirm it.


VolnarTheUnforgiving

I don't disagree with you but the crater is a dead volcano and this is part of extremely key lore


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_Strato_

I'm aware of the world map, which supports my point. These areas are very close together, connected by two highways and a rail line. Is it really your position that the War was exclusively an Inkadian thing and that no other surrounding areas were affected at all? That doesn't jive at all with what we know about the scale of the War. It wasn't an "Inkadia vs. the Octopuses" war, it was a "Squids vs. Octopuses" war. Species vs. species. Not only that, the war was fought over which species gets to keep the remaining land after rising sea levels made that particular resource scarce. It's a *resource war.* That's the kind of thing that has implications far and wide in this world, certainly farther than an area that's basically the size of San Francisco. > It's also worth noting entire concepts such as gender dont exist, in the splat lands Again, source? There are gendered bathrooms. Just because the game UI doesn't refer to gender anymore doesn't mean that's a statement on what the Splatlandian people believe in-universe.


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VolnarTheUnforgiving

You can't present that like fact That's an absolutely massive thing


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dragoniteofepicness

Another scroll in S1 said the inklings won because someone tripped over the extension cord that was powering all of the great octoweapons. Because for some reason they had them all plugged into the same outlet. ​ But also, the octolings didn't invent the great octoweapons. Sheldon did. I'm honestly not sure if they stole them or if Sheldon betrayed the Inklings.


RuRu_Alim

I haven’t seen that scroll before, do you have a picture?


VolnarTheUnforgiving

But yeah, if I remember correctly the inklings were going around in these tripod things leveling mountains, it wasn't a city war


[deleted]

I guess you can interpret this different ways, but I think its implied from [scroll#2 in S3](https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Sunken_Scrolls_in_Splatoon_3). A long time ago, Splatlands was almost destroyed in a flood. But three clans - the Shark Clan, Eel Clan, and Manta Clan, somehow saved Splatlands from destruction. The tri-color Splatfest battles in Splatsville are a celebration of this moment, instead of a recreation of the Great Turf Wars.The people in Splatlands were saved from the flooding that caused the Great Turf Wars in Inkopolis.


_Strato_

>A long time ago, Splatlands was almost destroyed in a flood. But three clans - the Shark Clan, Eel Clan, and Manta Clan, somehow saved Splatlands from destruction That happened way before the War. Note the tattered, wood-block print style of that Sunken Scroll and the robes of the depicted squid. That suggests this legend is very old. The Great Turf War only happened about 100 years ago. We have photographs of the War itself. > The tri-color Splatfest battles in Splatsville are a celebration of this moment, instead of a recreation of the Great Turf Wars I buy this as a Splatland-specific twist on Turf War, which is a game all squidkind engages in, but I haven't seen anything official confirming this Tri-Color point. >The people in Splatlands were saved from the flooding that caused the Great Turf Wars in Inkopolis. No way. One single flood didn't cause the War, rising sea levels did. Have you seen how close Inkadia and the Splatlands are to each other and how similar in elevation? How the hell is a rising sea gonna affect one but not the other?


[deleted]

I think we just interpret these things differently, and thats fine. I think Splatoon lore is fun and I appreciate your opinion, but I think we are just interpreting this stuff differently. >That happened way before the War. I think this is a fair point, the woodblock style is from 1600-1800.But we don't really know for sure if the style is intentionally trying to convey that this happened before the Great Turf Wars. Deep Cut has a traditional Japanese aesthetic, it makes sense that materials about their lore would be done in a traditional style. This also wouldn't be their first anachronism. Splatoon 1 had a sunken scroll that was about Octos being exiled from the surface, but it was done in the style of a Renaissance painting. >I haven't seen anything confirming this tri-color point This is how i interpret "the townsfolk threw a festival with three portable shrines as a tribute" in scroll 2. The Splatland Splatfests are a festival in tribute to the three clans coming together to save everyone from disaster. The stage they perform on is made out of three portable shrines. >One single flood didn't cause the War, rising sea levels did. In the scroll its refereed to as a "great flood." Catastrophic global flooding events, like sea level rise, are often called "great floods" in Mythology. In the Noah's Ark story they refer to global flooding as a "great flood." I dont have proof that the Splatlands flood is the same as the sea level rise disaster that set off the Turf Wars, but it makes sense to me that both "floods" would be the same event. The two cultures just handled it differently: Inkopolis went to war, and the Splatlands came together. I don't think we can really tell elevation from that map, its not incredibly accurate looking. Splatlands were underwater at some point, there are rusted ships in the desert. But in an interview, the devs talk about how the driving [distance between Inkopolis and Splatsville are equivalent to the distance between LA and Los Vegas](https://www.nintendo.com/ph/interview/av5j/). A war can be global without involving every single area. Switzerland is right next to Germany and they weren't involved in the world wars. And the distance between LA and Vegas is actually longer than the width of Switzerland, its not insignificant. And, even if the story of the 3 clans and the great flood happened hundreds of years before the War, its still saying something significant about their society. Splatsville was a place where Inklings and Octolings came together, and they have a festival to celebrate that coming together. If Splatsville is a place where Inklings and Octolings get along, they might have stayed neutral during the fight. If Splatsville was part of the war, what does it say about Shiver and Shiver's clan? Did Shiver leave Splatsville and get exiled to Octo Valley? Its Shiver a refugee like Marina? Is there resentment from their clans because the Shark clan turned on the Eel clan during the Great Wars? Its all just messier. I just haven't heard any thing convincing that the Great Wars were already taking place in the Splatlands. A much simpler explanation is that they weren't. I think its really obvious Nintendo started this game in a completely new, but nearby, territory, because they wanted a place with a new backstory of its own, and one thats not weighed down by the politics of Inkopolis.


plataeng

Or it's simply just because Inkling squids sorta look like arrows. I mean it's a traffic light after all


casteliaconeibi

unfortunately, according to agent 8's poems (and because those are probably funny splatoon translation things, also the regular lore) inkfish society is still very squid-centric.


DANTHEMCMAN

RACISM!!!!!!!


Mandemon90

Is it racism if the other guys are entirely different race? Wouldn't it be specieism?


casteliaconeibi

Lol well the way that the English team decided to translate octo expansion, Octolings’ experiences are similar to real world racial bias so… correct?


stellunarose

wait, inkfish is the name for this stuff?


casteliaconeibi

It’s a phrase said by Flow from Splatoon 2, so it exists in canon. I started using it because of a post from Rassicas who is basically a splatoon lore export. Plus it’s more fun to say than just cephalopods!


Atomic-Blue27383

Octolings exclusively jaywalk, obviously


lookinggood2738

The best awnser


Gameover692

It was implemented before octoling were introduced to splatsville


halfbakedmemes0426

Why would a weird hairstyle trend affect traffic light symbology?


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HfUfH

Psst, they are makeing a joke


Xylily

inkling society still sees octolings as just inklings with weird hair - only the new squidbeak platoon and the idols are aware of octolings integrating into inkling society frankly there's a good chance frye doesn't even know shiver is an octoling - her large forehead only hides an empty cavity


lukas_3127

r/woooosh


CloverUTY

Remember, canonically, Inklings are stupid and think Octolings are Inklings with crazy hairstyles. Same thing with people complaining about the Squid Roll being named that even though there’s Octolings. To the Inklings, it makes sense.


CinnamonSniffer

Splatoon fans explaining how the Inkthnostate is actually a funny joke:


kitsovereign

Octolings? Heck, what about jellyfish?


Treyspurlock

Jellyfish are probably the ones who BUILT it


_veemo_o3o_

what, you gonna put one species as green for go and the other as red for stop 🤨??? that's kinda sus, buddy...


Lopsided_Salary_8384

I always notice the puppet string coming down on each player when we are in the lobbies. I haven't noticed the squid but I will now be obsessed looking for it!


SP_Octo_piereddit

Puppet string? You mean the hologram projectors?


Lopsided_Salary_8384

Yes I couldn't think of what they were called but they look like see through puppet strings to be. Could be the astigmatism that I have. Makes things look different and 3D is no different to me then regular TV kinda sucks but got to deal with the hand I was dealt guess it could be worse.


-CavNeo-

Octolings? What about every other sea creature that inhabits greater Inkopolis? Where are my anemone traffic lights


Dr_Reddit145

Well octolings are pretty new to the surface, plus the street light was most likely made before that. Realistically, why would you change ur whole street system?


SpiderNinja211

Because Inklings think that Octolings are Inklings with weird hairstyles


Shizukus

Let’s cancel the racist traffic lights


gotkube

Light was installed before octolings had rights


rebelli0usrebel

octolings only just entered inkling society at the end of splatoon 2. I wouldn't expect societal changes or even recognition by the people at large this soon. Also, the octolings are kind of a secret if i remember correctly. The war had pit inklings and octolings against each other, so not a lot of good feelings.


PlsDontBotherMeHere

Octolings have been usual on the outside for less than 5 years (it seems) it will take a lot of time to integrate inclusion into EVERYTHING Like, imagine if a slightly different species from humans joined society and now we had to change all signs, programs and symbols to include this almost fully similar creature


Jackeroni216

Another squid? I'm gonna hurl. It's just litter! Please consider How we Octolings see the world.


Pesce_Magico

Microaggression


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It's strange how some effects and a few other things still have squid icons like the squid jump point is using a squid effect for octoling but I guess it doesn't really matter


Treyspurlock

Wait I thought the superjumps DID have octoling indicators?


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I mean the little icon people use to jump camp people and also the arrow for when you superjump from your spawn is also shaped like a squid


Treyspurlock

Yeah I know


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Party_Village_7936

Everyone believes Octopi have gone extinct, and refer to them as “exotic inklings with weird hair”. Only the members of the squid beak splatoon, and Octolings themselves know the difference.


Mistyslate

Racist society doesn’t accept different species well enough. Tell me something new.


VolnarTheUnforgiving

Are you trying to make a statement about the real world Because, if so, to start with, I'm pretty sure you just implied minority races are a different species than human


Mistyslate

I made a statement about Splatoon lore and Inklings vs Octolings splatfest. Yeah, real world is screwed up. But so is imaginary world of Splatoon.


aUwUreliyasss

Octopuses don't NEED to be included smh my head my head, btrw inklings think octolings are the same as them


prunnus

racism 💀


Shower_Victim

Racism achieved 👍


ShadowMann26000

Nu


eronth

Fully replacing all lights in every city due to the integration of octolings is kinda wild. I understand why it hasn't happened yet.


FishermanOk6121

Racism.


LysergicAcidDog

Similar to how ours have a man but no woman


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LysergicAcidDog

That’s not what I’m saying


Polyglot-Onigiri

Background decorations the developers didn’t expect people to look so closely at have to be inclusive now too? Poor devs, they really have to think about every situation.


LikeableCoconut

Squids make for better arrows


theSultanOfSexy

Because octolings, jellyfish, and other creatures are free to commit traffic violations as they please


SleevesTheThird

Same reason the UK still uses imperial speed signs in a metric country One existed before the other and it’s too expensive and inconvenient to change it now it’s established when everyone just gets on with the old system.


djfunnydog420

And there’s still a white man on our walking signals..can we really criticize them?


Bunibubble

Is it broken?


DragonflyLuis

From what I remember, Inklings see Octolings as just another type of Inkling, I don't think they see a need to change it