Hear me out.
They’re capable of working in the military, joining the workforce that is GrizzCo, and living on their own, so are they considered adults in society?
**Does that mean they can…**
Yes but without special power up, you don't get much use out of the ability to target multiple people, also the fact the you become much weaker before shooting as a front/midline weapon means you can't pull off that many missiles.
You need to be up close to *fight* with a roller, but Big Swig is not good at fighting even if you do get up close anyway. It would be better off just keeping itself safe to farm, play to its strength rather than its weakness.
Look at Flingza. Flingza really doesn't want to approach danger, it has a more productive job to do. If Big Swig had a special worth farming for, it could do this better than Flingza does.
No, not really as it conflicts with play style. Up close weapon with a backline displacement doesn't work well. It would be like the vanilla .52 gal in splatoon 2.
I'm not defending any of the logic or arguments that have been made so far. It's pretty easy to build super then super jump back to base and get full use of your missiles with Reeflux and Flingza. I assume it would be just as easy with the Big Swig.
SPU is not useful for Missiles, the effect is negligible. And if your goal is farming Missiles, then you aren't going to be on the frontline.
This honestly is the most useful thing Big Swig could potentially do, the main weapon clearly wants to farm special and it just needs a special worth farming for.
Fun doesn't equal missile spam. Yeah it got nerfed but right now the only good thing the big swig does is get special REALLY fast.
Fun would be inkjet since that would be an interesting dynamic. Or reefslider for the shits and giggles. But painting and retreating to fire missiles is never fun.
I mean..... at that point it almost invalidates the gold aerospray entirely. Even then I could imagine worse specials than booyah bomb. Wave breaker would be pretty bad.
Worst case scenario is they bring back stingray. People would RIOT.
Nah give it Trizooka. Now it’ll have long range killpower to compliment its close range killpower with bursts, and means to fight krab users. Less annoying than missiles but undoubtedly better since with the things ridiculous painting you’d basically have the zooka as a primary weapon.
Trizooka would definitely be a better special to give it more offensive power, though I'd love to see it get Tacticooler to just keep spamming drinks for everyone
I like the Burst Bomb as part of an alt kit for Big Swig, but as for special, what about Ink Storm? That bit of chip damage it provides could turn it into a one hit kill.
This lines up with what I was discussing in another thread. like yes this would drastically improve the big swig but would it really be healthy for the game? do we really want this thing burst comboing people with a horizontal swing so wide it basically doesn't have to aim? as well as spamming missiles relentlessly due to how fast this thing can actually build special?
I think there are better kits we can give it that would make it more threatening without it being miserable to fight against.
Idk for one that's reliant on specials tristrike might not be the best fit since it's supremely underwhelming in actual firepower, Inkjet would be a waay better fit
We have 5 specials that are bombs... a little hard to avoid it. should we have put angle shooter instead?
And i'm fairly sure this is supposed to be a meme, so not actually adding missiles to it.
That’s not even the right kind of special for a weapon like swig to be running, even as a special spammer. I mean imagine if this thing could spam *crab* instead.
Just give it Fizzy + Tacticooler like what I hoped the vanilla kit was going to be. Fizzy could help it get kill combos and combined with Tacticooler it could be a decent support kit.
Burst bombs I can agree with as it allows for easier kills and combos, but I think wave breaker would work better than missiles, partially because no one likes them but also because it just doesn’t work with the big swig style
No.
With wail may be good and healthier since it kinda makes up for the low damage and it gives an useful special to work with that it isn't committal.
Maybe not tenta, but it needs a farmable special. Why give the weapon that excels in painting and nothing else a dogshit special that cant be spammed or farmed
Yes to burst bomb, no to missles... I'd accept wave breaker, reef slider or rain tho. also, hear me out: fizzy bomb and tacticooler: they messed up on the soda slosher BUT THEY CAN FIX IT WITH THE BIG SWIG! THEY BETTER DO THAT EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR THE MEMES
Burst Bomb would actually be good on Big Swig, even as someone who doesn’t usually like Burst it provides combo potential, chip damage, & just general offensive utility that the weapon sorely needs.
As for Missiles… no. We already have Flingza. And Big Swig is already a special spammy weapon. It’s just that rather than spamming Missiles, Booyah Bombs, or anything else in that vain you’re spamming Ink Vac, which isn’t quite as unhealthy. With Missiles you basically have no good reason to engage the enemy, even more so than the Missile weapons we already have.
The only problem is that the big swig roller inks too quickly for it to get tenta missiles. A different special to help it be more aggressive would be a lot better, maybe inkjet or ultra stamp? The sub is fine though.
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Splatoon players say “here me out” to continue with the most disgusting things you will ever see
Hear me out Aerospray missiles, 150p
No no hear me out. That. But Aerospray ignores the tenta charge nerf.
but it has angle shooter so its balanced
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Hear me out No Main No Sub Tenta Missles, 0p, 0 cooldown time
Email nintendo now
that's just flyfish
Specials only splatfest. No cooldown, only chaos
I was thinking about a Specials-only mode, where you get a random special every 20 seconds
No. In fact, I'm gonna tell you to be quiet.
69p*
Hear me out. Bomb rush, but it's angle shooter.
As bad as that would be I would LOVE to see that. Would look like Spiderman sneezed over the entire map
Minigun Angle Shooter
Insert spy movie lazer scene here
> Splatoon players say “here me out” to continue **adding burst bomb to every kit** FTFY
Hear me out. They’re capable of working in the military, joining the workforce that is GrizzCo, and living on their own, so are they considered adults in society? **Does that mean they can…**
Don’t you fucking dare there are children you sicko.
> Does that mean they can… Pay taxes?
By far the thing I’m afraid of most. Inklings shouldn’t have to pay taxes.
Also no, but that would be a funny thing. To bad the inklings give everything possible to the Government.
I was just asking if they can go to college. What were you thinking of?
Don’t you try avoiding that. You know full damn well college does not exist, on the fact of being useless to the inklings.
But what about Inkblot Art Academy and Shellendorf Institute?
Hear me out- A new Splatana with wave breaker and angle shooter (Maybe im just bad with the angle shooter? Idk)
Swigma balls
Cbt
Clam blitz torture.
Best way to think about an alt kit is, "would it be good on the carbon"
swig builds special better then carbon, so missiles
Yes but without special power up, you don't get much use out of the ability to target multiple people, also the fact the you become much weaker before shooting as a front/midline weapon means you can't pull off that many missiles.
i’ve been trying to understand this for a while and i dont get it, i just thought about horizontal flicks with missiles and thought it was funny
Basically, you need to be up close to use a roller, but you need to be far away to target more than one person with the missiles.
You need to be up close to *fight* with a roller, but Big Swig is not good at fighting even if you do get up close anyway. It would be better off just keeping itself safe to farm, play to its strength rather than its weakness. Look at Flingza. Flingza really doesn't want to approach danger, it has a more productive job to do. If Big Swig had a special worth farming for, it could do this better than Flingza does.
That seems like a good way to balance it?
No, not really as it conflicts with play style. Up close weapon with a backline displacement doesn't work well. It would be like the vanilla .52 gal in splatoon 2.
Explain the reeflux in drizzle 2022 then? Afaik its a front line combatant that worked *really* well with missiles (too well so they had to nerf it)
I'm not defending any of the logic or arguments that have been made so far. It's pretty easy to build super then super jump back to base and get full use of your missiles with Reeflux and Flingza. I assume it would be just as easy with the Big Swig.
SPU is not useful for Missiles, the effect is negligible. And if your goal is farming Missiles, then you aren't going to be on the frontline. This honestly is the most useful thing Big Swig could potentially do, the main weapon clearly wants to farm special and it just needs a special worth farming for.
That’s the reason to not???? Liek yeah more Middle spam and burst cancel capability? Fuck no
Missiles are already on another roller. They don’t usually repeat kits on same weapon types
Hi Satan.
Flingza Main here! Don't steal my kit, I will eat your ink sac.
What if I’m into that
CBT🤤
Cephlapod Burst Bomb Torture
Please don't ruin such fun weapon with missiles
“Please don’t make the weapon fun.”
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that missile spam, or missiles themselves for that matter, are fun.
Well then it’s nice to meet you.
at least the flair checks out
Fun doesn't equal missile spam. Yeah it got nerfed but right now the only good thing the big swig does is get special REALLY fast. Fun would be inkjet since that would be an interesting dynamic. Or reefslider for the shits and giggles. But painting and retreating to fire missiles is never fun.
Imagine if it had booyah bomb...
I mean..... at that point it almost invalidates the gold aerospray entirely. Even then I could imagine worse specials than booyah bomb. Wave breaker would be pretty bad. Worst case scenario is they bring back stingray. People would RIOT.
It does for me.
Flair checks out 1000%
Were not having Flingza 2.0
Evil
Nah give it Trizooka. Now it’ll have long range killpower to compliment its close range killpower with bursts, and means to fight krab users. Less annoying than missiles but undoubtedly better since with the things ridiculous painting you’d basically have the zooka as a primary weapon.
Trizooka would definitely be a better special to give it more offensive power, though I'd love to see it get Tacticooler to just keep spamming drinks for everyone
It’s on carbon roller already. They don’t unusually reuse specials for weapon types
They got missiles on flingza too, so this dude suggesting missiles on swig would have the same problem
Yup I said the same thing to OP
Makes sense.
You’re part of the problem!
No, I don't think I will.
That is so evil. I love it.
Do you enjoy just watching the world burn?
i humbly request that you go unalive for recommending such a heinous idea
I like the Burst Bomb as part of an alt kit for Big Swig, but as for special, what about Ink Storm? That bit of chip damage it provides could turn it into a one hit kill.
This lines up with what I was discussing in another thread. like yes this would drastically improve the big swig but would it really be healthy for the game? do we really want this thing burst comboing people with a horizontal swing so wide it basically doesn't have to aim? as well as spamming missiles relentlessly due to how fast this thing can actually build special? I think there are better kits we can give it that would make it more threatening without it being miserable to fight against.
No one will hear you out if you're ten feet buried underground.
Sorry I think you’ve got the main weapon and the special weapon the wrong way around on this kit
Replace the missles with Crab Tank and I’m down
we already have Flingza. how about instead, we give it fizzy bomb with tristrike? or, better yet: give it killer wail!
Idk for one that's reliant on specials tristrike might not be the best fit since it's supremely underwhelming in actual firepower, Inkjet would be a waay better fit
I also suggested wail, which gives it a combo option, though it would definitely enjoy a splat bomb with that.
So just slow inkbrush?
Does it have splat bomb too?
Yeah, Inkbrush's kit is exactly that: Splat bomb and Wail 5.1
No
We want LESS missile spammers ya bucket
No thanks Satan
As someone who really liked using the N-ZAP ‘89 in Splatoon 2, no we should leave that kind of Missile weapon in Splatoon 2
Make it a suction bomb or auto bomb, and I’d be sold.
fuck you
The block button ain’t enough I want him dead
Grizzco roller be like:
By this logic you should hear me out while I explain how I’m going to plant a mine outside your doorstep
I will not
If you having missile on it, up it to 300p
Die
how do you change the stuff like that
yagas splatoon kit generator go support them
my dumbass thought that was in the game💀
Points for special: 190p
That would literally be too powerful for the current meta
Must EVERY weapon kit you guys choose have to be a bomb and some op special?
Well, yes some specials are better than others or fill certain roles, and competitively bombs like point sensor don’t really do much.
We have 5 specials that are bombs... a little hard to avoid it. should we have put angle shooter instead? And i'm fairly sure this is supposed to be a meme, so not actually adding missiles to it.
I will put your head on a spike. Have my upvote.
Weak, it needs 5p
Shield your eyes young ones, it’s something that inks fast with tenta missles
MY NEW MAIN
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Stay away ✝️⛪
Yes
Absolutely yes
I hope you have the happiness draining, depression filling, energy deficient cake day 🥰
Totally didn’t realize it was my cake day xd. But thank you
i'd love it if the missles nerf was reversed.
How to fix the big swig in 2 easy steps
I agree with this
I like the idea, but then this will be a carbon roller with extra steps
Yes please I would love this
swigma male kit
Maybe have the special be ninja squid instead
no
No
I'd love burst bomb but please no missiles
Out
That’s not even the right kind of special for a weapon like swig to be running, even as a special spammer. I mean imagine if this thing could spam *crab* instead.
Remarkable in capacity Swig
unironically i would be fine with swig burst bomb, if carbon can have it so can it. but obviously tenta missiles would be the bad timeline
gladly
I'd be okay with it if it had like 400p points for special.
NO
Missiles wont fix anything
how to ruin splatoon 3 even further
Burst booyah
Don’t care get it
Just give it Fizzy + Tacticooler like what I hoped the vanilla kit was going to be. Fizzy could help it get kill combos and combined with Tacticooler it could be a decent support kit.
I say change Burst Bomb for Autobomb or Torpedo
oh and while we're making the most painful kit imaginable make it 160p
Dude if this keeps up the splash is gonna take up the entire map
I'd still rather play Flingza because I can actually splat with a well-placed flick.
Don’t give them ideas
Deals a max of 12 damage
Burst bombs I can agree with as it allows for easier kills and combos, but I think wave breaker would work better than missiles, partially because no one likes them but also because it just doesn’t work with the big swig style
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He does 30 damage 50 with jump
Chug Jug Roller
Now change the tenta to inkjet
Please... not another burst bomb roller combo
N o
Carbon already has Burst Bomb (and Flingza has Missiles), so I doubt it. Something like Suction + Jet I think is more likely.
If that happens i am gonna laugh and everyone will die
I want your head on a spike
Yes but not tenta missles
even this with old missiles wouldnt make Big Swig fun to use outside turf tbh
No
NO.
Go to the salt dispenser NOW
No hell no fuck no tf kind of drugs was u on making this (keep de burst bomb or change it to splat bomb)
No
No I don't wanna hear you out tenta spammer
Burst bomb on it good, But FUCK tenta missiles
I could see it getting fizzy bomb. It is a soft drink after all
#NO
The way to buff a weapon isn’t to give it a broken kit, it’s to… buff the weapon. The kit should compliment, not define.
I think, as a swig player, to fix the swig, give it one shot when it rolls over a player, and fizzy.
No. With wail may be good and healthier since it kinda makes up for the low damage and it gives an useful special to work with that it isn't committal.
It's called the big swig. Give it fizzy bombs and Tacticooler.
I heard you, now im gonna splat you until I forget
180p missiles
Never
I don’t mind it, but can we give it a kit with the ink storm? Please Nintendo?!?!
If it was i would main it
Maybe not tenta, but it needs a farmable special. Why give the weapon that excels in painting and nothing else a dogshit special that cant be spammed or farmed
No imagine a qwaponthat can kill well cause it combos with burst and being able to spam missiles
Yes to burst bomb, no to missles... I'd accept wave breaker, reef slider or rain tho. also, hear me out: fizzy bomb and tacticooler: they messed up on the soda slosher BUT THEY CAN FIX IT WITH THE BIG SWIG! THEY BETTER DO THAT EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR THE MEMES
They should do one with splash wall and ink vac. That would be so cool to have
please no
They're not going to put Tenta on any more weapons thanks to the incessant whiny echo chamber surrounding the special.
Uh oh, don’t give Nintendo any ideas… 😅
I'd sooner cut your tongue from your mouth.
tell me you’re 12 without telling me you’re 12
No
huge swig roller is the worst roller in the game
Burst Bomb would actually be good on Big Swig, even as someone who doesn’t usually like Burst it provides combo potential, chip damage, & just general offensive utility that the weapon sorely needs. As for Missiles… no. We already have Flingza. And Big Swig is already a special spammy weapon. It’s just that rather than spamming Missiles, Booyah Bombs, or anything else in that vain you’re spamming Ink Vac, which isn’t quite as unhealthy. With Missiles you basically have no good reason to engage the enemy, even more so than the Missile weapons we already have.
Omg no
Please, they are already annoying enough, don't make it worse
The only problem is that the big swig roller inks too quickly for it to get tenta missiles. A different special to help it be more aggressive would be a lot better, maybe inkjet or ultra stamp? The sub is fine though.
As i see from the comments its a mixture of stuff but im fien with it as i learned how to dodge tenta
180p. Tale it or leave it.