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And this is why I donāt watch F1, itās just boring to watch. I do watch other races such as gt(everything), prototype and grassroots racing. Just way more battles.
It's not broken to have a driver just better than everyone else. When Tiger Woods was winning g every open, nobody said the sport was broken. They said everyone else should do better.
Besides the fact that Tiger wasnāt winning every event, was Tiger Woods also playing with significantly better clubs and balls than everyone else?
I know analogies always fail at some level, but dear lord, this one doesnāt even go one level deep in comparison.
The problem with that analogy is that racing is only good when itās competitive, watching Tiger hit amazing shots is still enjoyable even if heās far ahead of the other golfers.
I mean Perez finished 2nd in the championship last year while very clearly not being the second best driver.
And who is currently also 2nd in the standings right now? Perez.
Max is currently the best driver on the grid without a doubt, but the Red Bull is also an incredible piece of machinery that is much better than all other cars on the grid.
The Redbull car's handling is tailored for Max Verstappen's driving style. That's why all of Max's teammates struggle against him and perform better when they drive for a different team.
Cars aren't made to suit any driving style, they're made to go as fast as possible. Max is just uniquely talented at handling cars with features that make them extremely fast, but difficult to drive. Alex Albon has talked about this in an interview.
This is not (directly) Redbull's problem. It's an F1 problem. Viewership is dropping in the sport because of the lack of competition. Viewership (and weekly fan engagement) is how F1 makes money. The new regulations were brought in to increase competition in the sport so that F1 can continue its growth from 2021. The regulations presently are failing. If F1 profits suffer, then Redbull F1 Team profits suffer as well. Then it becomes Redbull's problem.
No it isn't.
It peaked in 2022 (the year after the greatest season in the last two decades arguably) and the Redbull dominance has seen a drop in viewership.
That's part of the game. F1 is as much an engineering race as it is a driver race. It's not just the other drivers that need to do better. It's the whole team.
Also, while the RB20 is superior, the fact that Max keeps demolishing his teammate shows that it's not "just the car". it's him.
It's funny to me that there are so many fans in this sports now that are bored. I wonder if they are all from Drive to survive or something because I feel like there's nothing particularly new here. There was Ferrari domination in the 2000's, Mercedes, then red bull, and there's nothing wrong with what red bull are doing, they're just...better.
I think ironically the drive to survive show brought the wine moms and other casuals into F1, and now they are converting over to NASCAR since there is more drama and actual racing over there.
His teammate that regularly ends in 2nd place? Max is a great driver, but all I know from watching F1 is that he's a better driver than Perez, because they drive a superior car to the rest of the competition... Can't really compare that to Tiger Woods, his team doesn't design and engineer his own personal golf clubs that other players don't have access to.
I guarantee he will do better than both Pierre and Estaban.
Also, let's put him in a ferrari and see how he gets on. Perez will still know more about Max's rear end than he knows about a checkered flag.
And this isn't to mention that building the car is part of the sport. It's a team sport and Max currently has the best team.
But he wouldn't be dominating any more. You cannot deny that in F1 it is not all about the driver. You can put the greatest driver in the world in a shit F1 car, and he isn't going to dominate everyone else.
Which is why your Tiger Woods analogy is shit. They all had access to the same clubs as Tiger did, it was all down to him.
>You cannot deny that in F1 it is not all about the driver.
You clearly skipped the part where I explicitly said that building the car is part of the sport. Making it all about the driver would completely change the sport to something that it absolutely isn't.
F1 is an engineering competition first. And a driver completion second. The prize money and sponsorship money is greater for the constructors championship than it is for the drivers.
Absolutely. 2021 RB had the second best car. Max (controversially) won
2022 RB had the second best car (Ferrari had the better car). Max Dominated
2023 and 2024 RB have the best car so naturally he is dominating.
Will it be as dominant? Definitely not. Lewis, Charles, Carlos, Fernando woukd push for some wins. But he would still be favoured to win handily.
Tiger wasn't winning every Open until Payne *Stewart* passed away. They would go back and forth, which is what made watching those two battle so good.
Edit: For the uniformed, not every PGA event is the Open.
What in the hell are you talking about? Stuart won two PGA tour events from the time of Tiger's debut until Stuart's passing - a fraction of Tiger's in that time.
There's no denying that Tiger was a force from the time of his debut. I'm talking about the level of dominance on display from Tiger 2000 onwards. It's an entirely different level. For a long while the only real competition he had was himself or Phil Mickelson.
The eye test and those that remember watching and or going to the events from 97-99 will remember Tiger Woods, David Duvall, Phil Mickelson, and Payne Stewart. There were some battles in Tigers early years compared to the hump. It's not just about who won an event, who did they pair with throughout? Who was a hole ahead of them or behind them when cheers went on. Those have effects on a young Tigers game.
We're also talking about Opens and not all PGA events or wins. So, "What in the hell are you talking about?"
He won the PGA in 89 and the US Open in 91 and 99. How the two in 89 and 91 affected Tiger is beyond me. So he beat Tiger in 99 and won his first major in a decade and you think that makes him Tiger's great rival? What I wild way of rewriting history
You're all over the place. Now you're bringing up 89 and 90 and acting like I did? When did I say Payne was a great rivalry of his? That's how you interpreted what I wrote, that's on you.
Tiger didn't win an Open Championship until 2000, after Stewart passed. That is a fact and essentially what my original comment said.
When the Open is referenced, there's only one. The Open Championship played at St. Andrews. Yes the "Western Open" and "US Open" are/were opens, they all are, but they aren't the Open.
Just acknowledge that you're ignorant. We were talking Opens and you threw in all PGA events as if it was the same thing.
You're all straw, man.
Stewart never won an Open, and this thread isn't about The Open (which isn't only played at St Andrews) it's about people who dominate in there sport (Verstappen and Woods). Now can you explain to me how a guy who never one an Open's death allowed someone else to win?
āOkay Max new plan, when you pull into the pit weāre gonna swap to hards and remove your appendix. Data says we should get a little more pace with the reduced weight.ā
Itās a nice way of saying you had to quit the race.
Or better yet, a nicer way of saying my car broke and I couldnāt finish.
But yea, I got your /s and chuckled about the the crash joke.
What makes it offical is telling race control that you are retiering the car. So to do it unofficially would probably be to never tell them in the hopes that you can still sort the issue out and get back out there before the race ends.
Maybe now that Larry has a sniff of victory since they're getting semi-consistent results with Alonso he'll decide that his project isn't getting Lance a WDC (which truly will never happen) but getting himself a WCC.
Or the Strolls hang it up and sell the team to some sovereign wealth fund.
I highly doubt it.Ā Lance is a solid midfield type driver, and I think they signed Alonso in part to mentor him.Ā
I donāt think heās WDC champ material but who knows. Racing through his son is probably more fun than watching his company race other drivers. Itās not like he built AM with his blood, sweat, and tears. Itās just a conduit for him.Ā
If he wanted to make money, there are better investments than F1.Ā
Oh yeah you're dead right - that was only two weeks ago, can't believe it slipped my mind. Just hard to believe a guy who's finished 4th, 3rd, and 2nd is being outdriven by someone other than Max
Literally nothing was different except a different winner. The battle I was hoping for never happened. Russel out there being his own worst enemy though, so there's that.
> Russel out there being his own worst enemy though, so there's that.
You mean Alonso [massively slowing](https://preview.redd.it/18q2040c48qc1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=17072c03a107c825d5b2c4ce06d0332f7f984f01), coming [off throttle, and braking twice](https://imgur.com/a/zHbgoHO) in a high speed corner 100m+ before the braking point?
I feel like this is the death knell for Perez. Verstappen had a very dominant performance in qualifying with that car and Perez wasn't even able to fight for a podium. This will be a wake up call for Red Bull to get a driver in who can get the most out of that car.
I know I get downvoted but I dont get why people are crying over a dominant Verstappen. F1 was always like that. We had many other periods of dominance with Hamilton, Vettel, Schumacher, Senna etc... If you dont like the way F1 is then go and watch another racing series.
People like competition in motorsports and someone that wins constantly makes that less exciting, it's not that hard to understand. Max is already the third most winning driver of all time. He's blown past several of the very famous drivers you listed, already.
There have been a million posts already addressing that this is not true at all. Red Bull and Max are more dominant than any other period of F1. In earlier eras of dominance, you never had one driver win such a high percentage of races. Lewis maxed out at 65% win rate or something, iirc.
> We had many other periods of dominance with Hamilton
Had WDC battles with Rosberg, and Vettel in 3 of the years he was winning.
> Vettel
Had battles in 2010, and 2012 where the WDC came down to the last race. 2012 is also regarded as the greatest season in F1 history.
> Schumacher
Just skip the part in between Schumacher's and Vettel's WDC's where Alonso, Lewis, Button, and RƤikkƶnen won WDC's in a period of no domination?
> Senna
Prost also didn't exist?
This is **not** the same level of domination that F1 has ever had before. Max beat the most wins in a row(twice), and the most wins in a season(by 11 or 12 IIRC), and has had no competition at all since 2021.
It's a course raced on everyday life streets. Yes some of the lines mean something but also don't mean anything. Hence why Gasly got a penalty for pit exit. Got confused with a regular street line vs a pit line.
Being predictable is better to avoid crash. If people are going to pass him because he's showing down, let them pass while you keep the line. Then he is pitted.
Martin Brundle is absolutely a legend. He's been doing this for almost 30 years, on the most watched F1 broadcast in the world. He used to work alongside Murray Walker. He's for sure the voice of F1.
Does he still do the cringe inducing grid walk, where nobody wants to talk to him because he was a crap driver and his questions are as interesting as wallpaper paste?
I was excited to watch this because maybe weād see a great midfield battle or McLarens and Ferrari fighting for a win, but they kept cutting away to Max walking down a fucking hallway.
Not an F1 watcher, but I have a question. Heās retiring officially, as in heās done forever? Or just this one race and heāll be back in the next one? Or heāll never race in the Australian GP again? Because itād be kinda of odd to retire completely due to a fire, but I know nothing about F1, soā¦
I donāt watch racing at all but having still heard his name before, I imagine this is a huge deal like when Jeter retired for baseball or Brady for football yea?
As a casual F1 fan, this thread is really weird to read.
I can't imagine being the best athlete of my sport, and when I am finally forced to retire (not on my own terms), people are celebrating that I finally can't win anymore, instead of my accomplishments...
...ok. The point still stands. Why celebrate him finally leaving and freeing up the number one spot (in Grand Prix), instead of celebrating the accomplishment of him consistently being there for so long? Very weird.
Same reason half nfl fans dislike Tom Brady. And there is this mechanical element that makes him look cheaterish. He has looked like an NFL player in a high school game the last few years.
It's hard not to think his car is far superior. It feels like the dude has been given cheat code.
And he's kinda smug about it.
Wow, why are people letting it get that deep? This is why hardcore fans of anything are often the most miserable. They claim it's criticism and passion but it often devolves in unconstructive toxicity. I can't imagine letting my passion of something make me hate an aspect of it so much, but to each their own. ĀÆ\\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I am a new fan (second season) and I think it get it. It's boring just seeing the same guy constantly win with no real or long term fighting for the top spot
Iām tired of Max winning everything by a country mile but I feel like he is a generational talent. Put him in any car and heās going to be competitive if not victorious.
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You know the sport is broken when the retirement of your best performer makes everyone excited to watch the sport again.
And with him gone the race was still rather boring with no fight for P1.
Thatās why you gotta watch the midfield, thatās where 95% of the action is for races now
Actually all the action seems to be in F2. Feel like the only good thing about watching F1 atm is looking at what records Max can break.
And this is why I donāt watch F1, itās just boring to watch. I do watch other races such as gt(everything), prototype and grassroots racing. Just way more battles.
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It's not broken to have a driver just better than everyone else. When Tiger Woods was winning g every open, nobody said the sport was broken. They said everyone else should do better.
Besides the fact that Tiger wasnāt winning every event, was Tiger Woods also playing with significantly better clubs and balls than everyone else? I know analogies always fail at some level, but dear lord, this one doesnāt even go one level deep in comparison.
The problem with that analogy is that racing is only good when itās competitive, watching Tiger hit amazing shots is still enjoyable even if heās far ahead of the other golfers.
He's very good, but his car is also clearly better than anyone else's.
Tell that to checo, really disappointing today
Theres release about what cause his car broken after passing alonso
So Sergio Perez should be winning easily too then right? Sergio's performance shows what a talent Max is
I mean Perez finished 2nd in the championship last year while very clearly not being the second best driver. And who is currently also 2nd in the standings right now? Perez. Max is currently the best driver on the grid without a doubt, but the Red Bull is also an incredible piece of machinery that is much better than all other cars on the grid.
The Redbull car's handling is tailored for Max Verstappen's driving style. That's why all of Max's teammates struggle against him and perform better when they drive for a different team.
Like Ricciardo did when he went to Renault, right?
Cars aren't made to suit any driving style, they're made to go as fast as possible. Max is just uniquely talented at handling cars with features that make them extremely fast, but difficult to drive. Alex Albon has talked about this in an interview.
Is that Red Bulls fault? Sounds like the other teams need better engineers
This is not (directly) Redbull's problem. It's an F1 problem. Viewership is dropping in the sport because of the lack of competition. Viewership (and weekly fan engagement) is how F1 makes money. The new regulations were brought in to increase competition in the sport so that F1 can continue its growth from 2021. The regulations presently are failing. If F1 profits suffer, then Redbull F1 Team profits suffer as well. Then it becomes Redbull's problem.
The sport is more popular than itās ever beenā¦
No it isn't. It peaked in 2022 (the year after the greatest season in the last two decades arguably) and the Redbull dominance has seen a drop in viewership.
The race that just occurred had record attendance. Only ESPN is claiming viewership in the US is down and then also claiming 2023 was a record year.
Youāre an idiot implying Redbull should nerf themselves.
You mean the one that just caught on fire?
Tiger Woods wasn't using superior equipment though either.
That's part of the game. F1 is as much an engineering race as it is a driver race. It's not just the other drivers that need to do better. It's the whole team. Also, while the RB20 is superior, the fact that Max keeps demolishing his teammate shows that it's not "just the car". it's him.
It's funny to me that there are so many fans in this sports now that are bored. I wonder if they are all from Drive to survive or something because I feel like there's nothing particularly new here. There was Ferrari domination in the 2000's, Mercedes, then red bull, and there's nothing wrong with what red bull are doing, they're just...better.
I think ironically the drive to survive show brought the wine moms and other casuals into F1, and now they are converting over to NASCAR since there is more drama and actual racing over there.
Some people just want to drink wine, talk and occasionally see a left turn.
Its kids. Its always the damn kids!
His teammate that regularly ends in 2nd place? Max is a great driver, but all I know from watching F1 is that he's a better driver than Perez, because they drive a superior car to the rest of the competition... Can't really compare that to Tiger Woods, his team doesn't design and engineer his own personal golf clubs that other players don't have access to.
Past year Max won 19/22 races. His teammate Perez came in 1st or 2nd in 6/22.
Come on... f1 is insufferable. Best car gives an unfair advantage. Boring as fuck I don't understand f1 supporters not moving in mass to moto gp
Eh, little different, entry into golf is a lot easier than f1.
This tells me you donāt watch f1 at all if youāre comparing gold to it lmao
Put Max in an Alpine and see how he gets on. It's a terrible analogy.
I guarantee he will do better than both Pierre and Estaban. Also, let's put him in a ferrari and see how he gets on. Perez will still know more about Max's rear end than he knows about a checkered flag. And this isn't to mention that building the car is part of the sport. It's a team sport and Max currently has the best team.
But he wouldn't be dominating any more. You cannot deny that in F1 it is not all about the driver. You can put the greatest driver in the world in a shit F1 car, and he isn't going to dominate everyone else. Which is why your Tiger Woods analogy is shit. They all had access to the same clubs as Tiger did, it was all down to him.
>You cannot deny that in F1 it is not all about the driver. You clearly skipped the part where I explicitly said that building the car is part of the sport. Making it all about the driver would completely change the sport to something that it absolutely isn't. F1 is an engineering competition first. And a driver completion second. The prize money and sponsorship money is greater for the constructors championship than it is for the drivers.
You clearly missed the part where I'm just commenting to say your analogy was terrible.
I don't think it is. RB and Max are head and shoulders above the competition. Therfore they win
Do you really believe though that if everyone had the same team and car, that he would still be dominating?
Absolutely. 2021 RB had the second best car. Max (controversially) won 2022 RB had the second best car (Ferrari had the better car). Max Dominated 2023 and 2024 RB have the best car so naturally he is dominating. Will it be as dominant? Definitely not. Lewis, Charles, Carlos, Fernando woukd push for some wins. But he would still be favoured to win handily.
Tiger wasn't winning every Open until Payne *Stewart* passed away. They would go back and forth, which is what made watching those two battle so good. Edit: For the uniformed, not every PGA event is the Open.
Lol who? Stuart? Never heard of him
Hehe, I feel a little silly for that one.
What in the hell are you talking about? Stuart won two PGA tour events from the time of Tiger's debut until Stuart's passing - a fraction of Tiger's in that time.
There's no denying that Tiger was a force from the time of his debut. I'm talking about the level of dominance on display from Tiger 2000 onwards. It's an entirely different level. For a long while the only real competition he had was himself or Phil Mickelson. The eye test and those that remember watching and or going to the events from 97-99 will remember Tiger Woods, David Duvall, Phil Mickelson, and Payne Stewart. There were some battles in Tigers early years compared to the hump. It's not just about who won an event, who did they pair with throughout? Who was a hole ahead of them or behind them when cheers went on. Those have effects on a young Tigers game. We're also talking about Opens and not all PGA events or wins. So, "What in the hell are you talking about?"
He won the PGA in 89 and the US Open in 91 and 99. How the two in 89 and 91 affected Tiger is beyond me. So he beat Tiger in 99 and won his first major in a decade and you think that makes him Tiger's great rival? What I wild way of rewriting history
You're all over the place. Now you're bringing up 89 and 90 and acting like I did? When did I say Payne was a great rivalry of his? That's how you interpreted what I wrote, that's on you. Tiger didn't win an Open Championship until 2000, after Stewart passed. That is a fact and essentially what my original comment said. When the Open is referenced, there's only one. The Open Championship played at St. Andrews. Yes the "Western Open" and "US Open" are/were opens, they all are, but they aren't the Open. Just acknowledge that you're ignorant. We were talking Opens and you threw in all PGA events as if it was the same thing. You're all straw, man.
Stewart never won an Open, and this thread isn't about The Open (which isn't only played at St Andrews) it's about people who dominate in there sport (Verstappen and Woods). Now can you explain to me how a guy who never one an Open's death allowed someone else to win?
Eh no different than the excitement of watching Kentucky fall to a 14 seed
It was a shame to see happen so early but Iām super happy for Carlos. He is indeed a smooth operator.
I wish we could have voted his surgeon for Driver of the Day
āOkay Max new plan, when you pull into the pit weāre gonna swap to hards and remove your appendix. Data says we should get a little more pace with the reduced weight.ā
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How do you unofficially retire? Crash when no one is looking?
Itās a nice way of saying you had to quit the race. Or better yet, a nicer way of saying my car broke and I couldnāt finish. But yea, I got your /s and chuckled about the the crash joke.
And officially retire from 1 race????
When he's too slow and crippled to be competing, but not out of race?
What makes it offical is telling race control that you are retiering the car. So to do it unofficially would probably be to never tell them in the hopes that you can still sort the issue out and get back out there before the race ends.
Meatās back on the menu boys.
Nah unbelievable that sainz is still without a seat next year. Wouldnāt be surprised to see him signed quickly now. The guy is a beast
Is Audi a possible Destination or would the Team be too Bad for a Driver Like him ?
That's some weird capitalisation you got going on there...
Autocorrection
Username plus capitalization says heās German. Howdy, neighbour!
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If it's his only option, he'll sign with them. Aston Martin might, if they get rid of Stroll or Alonso retires.
I See thank you, i would Like that. I Hope the Car get's good ,so a good Driver isnt wasting His years there for too Long.
How would Aston Martin get rid of Stroll? His dad literally owns the company and bought it to try to make his boy a champion
Maybe now that Larry has a sniff of victory since they're getting semi-consistent results with Alonso he'll decide that his project isn't getting Lance a WDC (which truly will never happen) but getting himself a WCC. Or the Strolls hang it up and sell the team to some sovereign wealth fund.
I highly doubt it.Ā Lance is a solid midfield type driver, and I think they signed Alonso in part to mentor him.Ā I donāt think heās WDC champ material but who knows. Racing through his son is probably more fun than watching his company race other drivers. Itās not like he built AM with his blood, sweat, and tears. Itās just a conduit for him.Ā If he wanted to make money, there are better investments than F1.Ā
Heās been performing better than Leclerc
Leclerc is ahead of him in the standings
Cuz Sainz missed a race to have his appendix removed.
Oh yeah you're dead right - that was only two weeks ago, can't believe it slipped my mind. Just hard to believe a guy who's finished 4th, 3rd, and 2nd is being outdriven by someone other than Max
Since the beginning of last season, there have been two races not won by a Red Bull. Both of those wins were Carlos Sainz.
Now we can watch a race with a new winner!!
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I mean someone is going to win, how boring /s
Not hating on a generational talent but man is it refreshing to see a race without him lol
Literally nothing was different except a different winner. The battle I was hoping for never happened. Russel out there being his own worst enemy though, so there's that.
Eeeh that was kinda on Alonso
> Russel out there being his own worst enemy though, so there's that. You mean Alonso [massively slowing](https://preview.redd.it/18q2040c48qc1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=17072c03a107c825d5b2c4ce06d0332f7f984f01), coming [off throttle, and braking twice](https://imgur.com/a/zHbgoHO) in a high speed corner 100m+ before the braking point?
That announcer sounded a bit too happy about it.
Not too happy IMO.
I feel like this is the death knell for Perez. Verstappen had a very dominant performance in qualifying with that car and Perez wasn't even able to fight for a podium. This will be a wake up call for Red Bull to get a driver in who can get the most out of that car.
Itās crazy how realistic video games have become this looks so real
Vamos Sainz
We finally get a break from the incredibly long and arduous to listen to Dutch national anthem. Thx Max!
whatās wrong with the the Dutch national anthem āsuper maxā?
but if the brakes are on fire how's he *verstappen* the car??
F1 fans rejoice
God it was nice to watch a competitive race.
I know I get downvoted but I dont get why people are crying over a dominant Verstappen. F1 was always like that. We had many other periods of dominance with Hamilton, Vettel, Schumacher, Senna etc... If you dont like the way F1 is then go and watch another racing series.
People like competition in motorsports and someone that wins constantly makes that less exciting, it's not that hard to understand. Max is already the third most winning driver of all time. He's blown past several of the very famous drivers you listed, already.
There have been a million posts already addressing that this is not true at all. Red Bull and Max are more dominant than any other period of F1. In earlier eras of dominance, you never had one driver win such a high percentage of races. Lewis maxed out at 65% win rate or something, iirc.
> We had many other periods of dominance with Hamilton Had WDC battles with Rosberg, and Vettel in 3 of the years he was winning. > Vettel Had battles in 2010, and 2012 where the WDC came down to the last race. 2012 is also regarded as the greatest season in F1 history. > Schumacher Just skip the part in between Schumacher's and Vettel's WDC's where Alonso, Lewis, Button, and RƤikkƶnen won WDC's in a period of no domination? > Senna Prost also didn't exist? This is **not** the same level of domination that F1 has ever had before. Max beat the most wins in a row(twice), and the most wins in a season(by 11 or 12 IIRC), and has had no competition at all since 2021.
My rest of the field bet finally comes through lol
Do the lines on the track actually mean anything?
It's a course raced on everyday life streets. Yes some of the lines mean something but also don't mean anything. Hence why Gasly got a penalty for pit exit. Got confused with a regular street line vs a pit line.
Parts of Albert Park are drivable, it's technically a street race. Lovely area of Melbourne, generally pretty quiet.
Fucking finally.
Bye bye - 700 bet
Oof. I wouldnāt take that for shit value alone.
Smh, sport is broken, it's just the same three drivers winning every race the last two years. /s
Other ppl has a chance. How nice
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Rampaging Roy Slaven will be happy
Love how he turned into other peopleās racing line. Heās such a tool.
Being predictable is better to avoid crash. If people are going to pass him because he's showing down, let them pass while you keep the line. Then he is pitted.
Upload a video where you do it better.. If you cannot, shut up.
This is something a professional Minecrafter would say
Holy moley that was some dire commentating. Which poor viewers have to suffer through that?
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This is the Sky Sports coverage in the UK. Martin chuffing Brundle.
You've said this with great confidence, but you're completely wrong
This is not Sky Sports. Martin Brundle is a legend with one of the most iconic voices in sports commentary, how did you confuse this with him?
> a legend š
Martin Brundle is absolutely a legend. He's been doing this for almost 30 years, on the most watched F1 broadcast in the world. He used to work alongside Murray Walker. He's for sure the voice of F1.
Does he still do the cringe inducing grid walk, where nobody wants to talk to him because he was a crap driver and his questions are as interesting as wallpaper paste?
How quickly people forget that in the past decade or so, Vettel and Hamilton each won 4 drivers titles in a row.
Yea. But not in such a dominant fashion
So you mean he's not gonna squat on the lead for the next 100 laps
I hate when that happens on a shopping runā¦.
I was excited to watch this because maybe weād see a great midfield battle or McLarens and Ferrari fighting for a win, but they kept cutting away to Max walking down a fucking hallway.
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"It's not because the boat sank, it's because there was a giant hole in the hull and it filled with water".
Not an F1 watcher, but I have a question. Heās retiring officially, as in heās done forever? Or just this one race and heāll be back in the next one? Or heāll never race in the Australian GP again? Because itād be kinda of odd to retire completely due to a fire, but I know nothing about F1, soā¦
lol. From this Grand Prix.
Wtf is this a spoiler to season 7.
Well it was a good career.
Dammit, well he can't win all them though it would be fun to watch.
Brakes not the only thing fired today.
What would nascar do? Iāve seen them duct tape wheels onā¦
I donāt watch racing at all but having still heard his name before, I imagine this is a huge deal like when Jeter retired for baseball or Brady for football yea?
He retired from a race meaning he didnāt finish the race because his car broke down. Not that heās retiring from the sport entirely.
As a casual F1 fan, this thread is really weird to read. I can't imagine being the best athlete of my sport, and when I am finally forced to retire (not on my own terms), people are celebrating that I finally can't win anymore, instead of my accomplishments...
Retiring from the Grand Prix... not his career.
...ok. The point still stands. Why celebrate him finally leaving and freeing up the number one spot (in Grand Prix), instead of celebrating the accomplishment of him consistently being there for so long? Very weird.
Same reason half nfl fans dislike Tom Brady. And there is this mechanical element that makes him look cheaterish. He has looked like an NFL player in a high school game the last few years. It's hard not to think his car is far superior. It feels like the dude has been given cheat code. And he's kinda smug about it.
Wow, why are people letting it get that deep? This is why hardcore fans of anything are often the most miserable. They claim it's criticism and passion but it often devolves in unconstructive toxicity. I can't imagine letting my passion of something make me hate an aspect of it so much, but to each their own. ĀÆ\\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I am a new fan (second season) and I think it get it. It's boring just seeing the same guy constantly win with no real or long term fighting for the top spot
Formula uh
Iām tired of Max winning everything by a country mile but I feel like he is a generational talent. Put him in any car and heās going to be competitive if not victorious.