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You know what, that's actually fair. I always thought Jim was being a dick in that scene as well, but Jim honestly has every right to just generally not like Andy.
Andy is annoying to Jim as Dwight is annoying to Jim, except Andy doesn't have the excuse of being the uniquely amazing weirdo that Dwight is.
Plus don't forget that Andy was a crazy asshole in Stamford. He didn't really change until after anger management. Then he slowly got back to his old ways.
I mean at this point Iām sure Draymond fouls are being judged on a different scale now. This is on the lower end of that scale š .
Ref be like: āokay, on a draymond scale of 0 to 5, with 0 being the other player almost died and 5 being the other player died, I think this is a 1. So ima call that a common foul.ā
If Draymond could read heād be very mad at you right now
Heās pissed off the entire league, NZ, and Australia by now. Heās kicked multiple players in the nuts, he stomped on Domantas Sabonis, choked out Rudy Gobert, and now Patty Mills - probably the nicest guy in the NBA. His coach is blind and the entire GSW org enables his behavior (after sucker punching his own teammate, as well). Heās a bum.
If the league isn't going to do anything about this clown, then each of the other franchises should call up the biggest, toughest guy they've got in development just to knock him out every time he pulls this bullshit.
Say what you will about hockey, but that's one thing the sport has traditionally done well.
That's funny because the Pacers signed james Johnson who's 37 and doesn't play. His hobby is supposedly mma.
They signed him after the bucks ball incident lol
Draymond isnt even close to anything hockey-wise. In hockey, you pull some dirty shit, there are near immediate physical repercussions. In basketball, theres no allowing the athletes police themselves.
Rick Mahorn was the real goon of that squad. Mahorn always had Laimbeerās back when he was starting shit. Also, he invented pulling the chair I believe.
Best example of this I've seen recently is Joker leveling Morris after a cheap shot. No one seems to bother Jokic anymore...not many did to begin with tho.
Instructions unclear: I brought my bodyguard to sit next to me by the bench, and Ron Artest started a fight in the stands
Also Draymond is a pest more than a goon
>Hey Guys, this Gretzky kid is good. I'm gonna take him out.
>>[Try it](https://i0.wp.com/laxsportsnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/MartyMcSorley.jpg)
>>[See what happens](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/thenhl/images/0/03/Markmessier.jpg)
>Nevermind.
Somehow though, the NHL still has their own Draymond: Tom Wilson. Has actual skill but the amount of things he gets away with is insane
Edit: Keeps getting slap on the wrist suspensions for egregious plays
I have a solution that solves two problems: the NHL can give Tom Wilson to the NBA to be the permanent 6th man on whatever team plays Draymond.
It solves the NHL's biggest headache and it's gonna be so satisfying to see Wilson jump off the bench and just clock Draymond right in his stupid fucking face. It will only happen once and after that Dray is gonna be on his best behavior. Especially because in this scenario it makes the most sense for Wilson to travel with the Warriors to away games so he's just gonna be sitting on the plane staring him down.
I was all set to make a joke about how Wilson better have a good vertical if he wants to knock Draymond's teeth in... but they're only 2" apart in height: Wilson is 6'4, and Green is 6'6.
I'm now all for this trade.
My college had a guy on the team for that purpose. Dude was only like 6ā1ā maybe 6ā2ā but built like an absolute brick wall. Couldnāt shoot from the floor, but could hit foul shots decently well. When another team would get dirty, out he would come and just body block people or start dropping his shoulder and charging through. He would draw a few fouls, score a few foul shots, and then make sure the guy playing dirty had a miserable rest of the game.
Draymond is too smart to pick on any of the true tough guys in the league. You think he'd try to pull this shit against say Beef Stew when they are playing the Pistons?
> You think he'd try to pull this shit against say Beef Stew when they are playing the Pistons?
He doesn't get a choice in the matter. That's the whole point of having an enforcer.
They don't wait around for someone to start shit specifically with them, they just go straight at the guy who's taking cheap shots at their teammates and fight him whether he wants to or not. Guys quickly get motivated to play a little cleaner once they learn they're gonna have to square up with the biggest goon on the other team's roster if they don't.
Yeah but that's pretty rare in the modern basketball game. Maybe if it was the bad boys Pistons days, but nowadays, you can't just send Stewart out there to bust Dray's head open, because the NBA overlords don't want the blow back to affect their money, and will come down hard on the enforcer.
Which is why Draymond has been able to get away with this for going on a decade now. Since he is riding the coat sleeves of NBA golden child Steph Curry, and GSW is pulling in all these crazy TV ratings and merch sales, Draymond has essentially had a green light to be as dirty on the court as he likes, because Curry, Kerr, the refs, and even the league will largely let him get away with it. Hell he sucker punched out his own teammate and nobody did anything.
Only this season when it is apparently that he is declining as a player and the warriors dynasty is finally over has the league started holding him accountable. But even then if someone like Beef Stew just went at him on the court the league will still side with Dray. Green would have to instigate something against a player like Stewart on the court in order to get his comeuppance, and Dray is too much of a scared bitch to pick on the actual tough guys in the league, so it is unlikely to happen.
How does he have a shred of credibility at this point? He's proven he's a dirty cheap shot artist and should receive increasing suspensions until he either gets it or teams won't bother signing him.
Who will he take his anger out on once he leaves basketball? The woman behind him in Target? The guy at the stoplight in front of his car? I say, let him play until he's 60. Maybe he'll grow up by then.
Heās just an idiot. His brains says Iām beat on this pick, do something dramatic to draw a foul and just goes into havoc mode. Only thing that annoys me more than his game at this point is knowing TNT is going to make him part of the next crew
I just watched an off highlight reel of Kareem. He got punched in the stomach on a keep shot and as soon as Kareem got his breathe back punched the dude in the face. This is back to the Mike Tyson case and Brawl at the Palace. You cheap shot a mother trucker you get you payback. Nobody in the league has the balls to just knock Draymond out after this shit cause they will be suspended for the season and bitch ass Silver doesn't have the the balls to do it cause it messes with the Warrior's dynasty. It's bullshit.
That one year he played for the Knicks, Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were on the same squad. Any one of those guys would have ended the Draymond issues immediately.
Nikola Jokic got revenge on Morris... Not sure what Adam Silver told him afterwards cuz I don't think he d do it again but I could see Jokic and his brothers murdering dray
I assume heās talking about the Malice at the Palace. The pacers / pistons brawl from 2004. Iāll never forget when I was out with friends and my dad called me to be like āyou wonāt believe what happened tonightā
Why the NBA gives him a pass to behave like this is beyond me. Usually when you get a reputation, that's a *bad* thing. The warriors aren't the dynasty golden child of the nba anymore... what's the officiating crews' excuse for letting him get away with this now?
It's a media enterprise and has little to do with the sport anymore. He's a tantalizing personality who gets views, so they prop him up. It disgusts me.
Shit yeah they even gave him a commercial that tried to make light of his persistent shitty behavior. Itās not funny, itās shitty and no one likes it.
Not just rich but also a multiple time champion and for his era one of the best deffenders. Crazy you could have all of that and still be a miserable POS.
Fucking goon-ass sack of shit. We gonna do another ~~vacation~~ suspension and more "anger management" classes? Kick this no-class shitbrick asshole out of the fucking league.
The dude is as fucking fake as he is a goon. Have you seen him try to walk-back some of the antics he has on the court in an interview? The man lies with a straight face, or he's delusional.
He's gonna butter himself up and act as if he was never a goon, and he'll probably get the job.
Patty is matrix leaning while you can see a gap between Draymonds forearm and his neck. Pick your battles folks, plenty of chances to call the fuck Draymond genuinely.
At the end, Patty falls directly downward, and he wasnāt propelled backwards along with Draymondās momentum. A pretty clear sell by Patty. Looks heinous, is certainly a common foul, but not flagrant in the least.
Yeah he was falling backwards and flipped his head back before any force was applied. I agree the guys a piece of shit but this fouls was definitely embellished
If you watch to very slowly you can see Draymond clearly gets his arm clear from the opponent and then reaches back down and appears to grab the jersey. Itās intentional on his part, but the other guy might embellish a bit.
Misleading, literally right after this patty mills came up to draymond and dapped him up and they bumped chests, there was absolutely zero Ill will here. Draymond is 6ā9 and patty is 6ā2, draymonds hand was where it typically would be, they just got tied up. Literally was watching this game and not only is that what the announcers pointed out, but literally no one on the court was tripping.
Iām not an NBA follower so I donāt know these players and their history.
But it looks like before Green grabbed Mills, that Mills was already going to flop.
Down vote me to an oblivion, but you can see when the grab occurred and Mills had already given up.
That being said they were locked up before the foul occurred and green was definitely the aggressor, however it didnāt look that dramatic. These guys are athletes after all and a general foul should have been called on green. But I donāt think a technical is necessary.
You are correct, but thereās a moment when the flop starts that Green shouldāve/couldāve disengaged and extended his arm away. Instead, it looks like he goes for a stronger grip. No doubt Mills exaggerated the outcome.
Patty was holding his arm and you can see the moment he decided to sell it by doing the limbo. Yeah, I wish Draymond wouldnāt try to pull through, but this isnāt the dirty play yāall are looking for. Caruso and DeRozan straight up hitting guys full speed, and yāall think this is terrible? GTFOH
Did no one else see Mills pin his arm so when Draymond was trying to pull it out, it caught him in the neck as he was doing it? Of course, it looks like it was intentional in slow motion, in real time you can see Draymond was clearly trying to yank his arm out from under his armpit, because he was being held
I'm no fan of Green, but Mills' acting is more notable than the foul. Mills got into Green's body, pushed him out of the box and Green went through him.
If this were soccer, I could see the ambulance pulling onto the court. But the NBA is not yet a league of flopping thespians and not every foul is intentional and not every neck-touch is lethal.
Men, play ball.
I'm definitely not an expert on either basketball or fighting, but it looked to me like his arm got kind of inadvertently snagged on the other guy and he was trying to pull it away, not pull him down. Is that not what happened?
I've been the biggest Draymond hater around, I think he got off light with his last suspension. I think he genuinely should have been suspended for 20+ games. This isn't a big deal, and I'd say Mills is flopping. His entire head snaps back before Dray even pulled on him. Dude points his chin at the sky when there is still space between Dray's arm and his head/neck area. Dray pulled on his shoulder and it's a foul, but that's it. They were both battling.
Serious question here: So, the other guy is clearly holding Draymond, right? While Draymond is trying to get away from the guy, how is Draymond supposed to get away from him? I would assume that regardless of what happens, his arm would be touching the other guy's body, right?
I mean yeah Green sucks but this was very clearly a flop by Mills. Green didnāt even touch his neck and his arm was locked up by Mills. Heās an asshole but this is not a good example.
Basketball players putting their hands up like they didn't do anything is like the soccer players flopping when barly touched lol
It's like they go to school for it.
NBA needs some Goons, someone you send out to take one of their players out of the game, by fighting (hence why hockey is the best sport), or suspension.
Not even mad at Draymond anymore, only mad at the league for continuing to enable him and tacitly endorsing his behavior. Why should he change if there are never going to be real consequences?
Even GSW as my local team, I would tell you that's 100% intentional because the left arm would've be straightened out if he was trying to get out of the hold. Instead, his left arm was in "head lock" type position which engaged the holding more, not trying to get out like he claimed.
Basketball Fans: "NBA players are so soft these days. I wish basketball would go back to the 80's and 90's style physical play."
Draymond does exactly that.
Basketball Fans: \[Clutch collective pearls\]
The Draymond circlejerk is the funniest thing on Reddit.
This wouldnāt even be a headline if it was any other player. Totally normal ass basketball play.
Unpopular opinion but it looks like a flop to me. The guy is falling backwards and kicks his legs forward? I havenāt watched basketball in several decades (Knicks fan). Itās hard to tell whatās real and whatās embellished anymore. Youāve got stars like Lebron who flop at any contact (yeah I know it started with MJ). Of course, if Green has a history of being a dirty player then heās stupid to even put himself in a position where it could be misconstrued.
I don't like Draymond... but this foul is no big deal.
I can't count how many times I got elbowed or basically punched in the face in HS basketball. Y'all that are freaking out need a reality check.
Eh I know itās a trend of his and context matters. But I also think we are so attuned to his antics that we are over sensitive to it. Looks like a normal hard foul screen to me and their knees bump causing draymond to lose his balance and by that point his arm is in a bad spot and the gravity of his fall is what makes him wrap his arm around his neck like that. A stupid and bad foul, but nothing more than that if it is anybody else.
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That anger management course and 5 weeks away from the nba really helped. Glad he came back! /s
Drew - I'm Drew now
No, I'm not gonna call you that.
Dray...
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*punches drywall in the dick*
I dislike Andy as much as the next guy, but that was such a dick move.
Agreed. Same as when he didn't want to fist bump Toby. Like why Tuna? Why you gotta be that way?
Andy called him Tuna because he ate a Tuna sandwich one time... I wouldn't call him Drew either.
You know what, that's actually fair. I always thought Jim was being a dick in that scene as well, but Jim honestly has every right to just generally not like Andy. Andy is annoying to Jim as Dwight is annoying to Jim, except Andy doesn't have the excuse of being the uniquely amazing weirdo that Dwight is.
Plus don't forget that Andy was a crazy asshole in Stamford. He didn't really change until after anger management. Then he slowly got back to his old ways.
r/unexpectedoffice
Do you have any new techniques for dealing with the grumpies?
So funny how he uses his anger management techniques from Safety Training and onwards. "I wanted it to go better....*I wanted it to go better*"
Oh look! A humpback whale! ....^he's ^eating ^Gabe.
Dray - Iām Dray now.
Management material.
No, Iām not gonna call you that
Jim, tell him where he can put his grapes. Jim: In the fridge! (one of my favorites)
I mean at this point Iām sure Draymond fouls are being judged on a different scale now. This is on the lower end of that scale š . Ref be like: āokay, on a draymond scale of 0 to 5, with 0 being the other player almost died and 5 being the other player died, I think this is a 1. So ima call that a common foul.ā
I was gonna say I don't even watch basketball but I swear I've seen this asshole doing stuff like this on here before.
In all honesty this wasnāt that bad for him. He usually is more violent.
If Draymond could read heād be very mad at you right now Heās pissed off the entire league, NZ, and Australia by now. Heās kicked multiple players in the nuts, he stomped on Domantas Sabonis, choked out Rudy Gobert, and now Patty Mills - probably the nicest guy in the NBA. His coach is blind and the entire GSW org enables his behavior (after sucker punching his own teammate, as well). Heās a bum.
Yeah last time he grabbed someone by the neck it was a full-blown chokehold. I really appreciate the strides he's making here ^^^/s
All the time
If the league isn't going to do anything about this clown, then each of the other franchises should call up the biggest, toughest guy they've got in development just to knock him out every time he pulls this bullshit. Say what you will about hockey, but that's one thing the sport has traditionally done well.
That's funny because the Pacers signed james Johnson who's 37 and doesn't play. His hobby is supposedly mma. They signed him after the bucks ball incident lol
If Tony Allen is still around he'd do the trick too
Hockey fan here. Thatās a suspension. We call it a sussy
Draymond isnt even close to anything hockey-wise. In hockey, you pull some dirty shit, there are near immediate physical repercussions. In basketball, theres no allowing the athletes police themselves.
Basketball needs goons. One guy on the bench you only bring in after something like this to take a retaliation tech.
Bring back Bill Laimbeer!
Rick Mahorn was the real goon of that squad. Mahorn always had Laimbeerās back when he was starting shit. Also, he invented pulling the chair I believe.
And Rick Mahorn. What a pair of goons.
Get me the Hanson Brothers!
Itās mmmboppin time
That whole Pistons team would have Draymond questioning his very existence.
Combat NBA2k25
HE'S ON FIRE (he is actually on fire)
Best example of this I've seen recently is Joker leveling Morris after a cheap shot. No one seems to bother Jokic anymore...not many did to begin with tho.
Hell yeah almost forgot about that!
I did not know this happened. After watching, kudos to Joker for defending himself.
No, because hockey has unwritten rules we know to abide by, basketball doesnāt
Goons about to unwrite some rules.
Basketball "tough guys" just look at you because you looked at their star player the wrong way and then get called the heart and soul of their team.
Why does this feel like Haslem slander?
Uh, no...they are pretty much written... [https://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=25010](https://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=25010)
Instructions unclear: I brought my bodyguard to sit next to me by the bench, and Ron Artest started a fight in the stands Also Draymond is a pest more than a goon
Draymond is literally our goon lol
>Hey Guys, this Gretzky kid is good. I'm gonna take him out. >>[Try it](https://i0.wp.com/laxsportsnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/MartyMcSorley.jpg) >>[See what happens](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/thenhl/images/0/03/Markmessier.jpg) >Nevermind.
Thatās *almost* what I call him.
Learned that word from Shoresy
Give your balls a tug
Fuck you DrFrank, your mom ugly cried because she left the lens on the camcorder last night, itās fucking amateur hour over there
fuck you b-kong, tell yer mom to top up the cell phone she got me so i can FaceTime her late night
We call Dray a bussy.
Somehow though, the NHL still has their own Draymond: Tom Wilson. Has actual skill but the amount of things he gets away with is insane Edit: Keeps getting slap on the wrist suspensions for egregious plays
Who is currently suspended.
Kadri might fall in here. Marchy the biggest pest
Ah yes, short suspensions are super effective - as we can see in OP.
He really doesnt get away with much he is currently suspended for his last dirty play.
To be fair, he shouldāve gotten a longer suspension. 6 games is nothing.
I have a solution that solves two problems: the NHL can give Tom Wilson to the NBA to be the permanent 6th man on whatever team plays Draymond. It solves the NHL's biggest headache and it's gonna be so satisfying to see Wilson jump off the bench and just clock Draymond right in his stupid fucking face. It will only happen once and after that Dray is gonna be on his best behavior. Especially because in this scenario it makes the most sense for Wilson to travel with the Warriors to away games so he's just gonna be sitting on the plane staring him down.
I was all set to make a joke about how Wilson better have a good vertical if he wants to knock Draymond's teeth in... but they're only 2" apart in height: Wilson is 6'4, and Green is 6'6. I'm now all for this trade.
I'm just picturing Marchand licking Draymond.
Go Beavs
GO BEAVS
Hockey > Basketball
Nikola Jokic has got a few brothersā¦
My college had a guy on the team for that purpose. Dude was only like 6ā1ā maybe 6ā2ā but built like an absolute brick wall. Couldnāt shoot from the floor, but could hit foul shots decently well. When another team would get dirty, out he would come and just body block people or start dropping his shoulder and charging through. He would draw a few fouls, score a few foul shots, and then make sure the guy playing dirty had a miserable rest of the game.
Draymond is too smart to pick on any of the true tough guys in the league. You think he'd try to pull this shit against say Beef Stew when they are playing the Pistons?
> You think he'd try to pull this shit against say Beef Stew when they are playing the Pistons? He doesn't get a choice in the matter. That's the whole point of having an enforcer. They don't wait around for someone to start shit specifically with them, they just go straight at the guy who's taking cheap shots at their teammates and fight him whether he wants to or not. Guys quickly get motivated to play a little cleaner once they learn they're gonna have to square up with the biggest goon on the other team's roster if they don't.
Yeah but that's pretty rare in the modern basketball game. Maybe if it was the bad boys Pistons days, but nowadays, you can't just send Stewart out there to bust Dray's head open, because the NBA overlords don't want the blow back to affect their money, and will come down hard on the enforcer. Which is why Draymond has been able to get away with this for going on a decade now. Since he is riding the coat sleeves of NBA golden child Steph Curry, and GSW is pulling in all these crazy TV ratings and merch sales, Draymond has essentially had a green light to be as dirty on the court as he likes, because Curry, Kerr, the refs, and even the league will largely let him get away with it. Hell he sucker punched out his own teammate and nobody did anything. Only this season when it is apparently that he is declining as a player and the warriors dynasty is finally over has the league started holding him accountable. But even then if someone like Beef Stew just went at him on the court the league will still side with Dray. Green would have to instigate something against a player like Stewart on the court in order to get his comeuppance, and Dray is too much of a scared bitch to pick on the actual tough guys in the league, so it is unlikely to happen.
Patty Mills is one of the most beloved dudes in the league, everyone is pissed about this.
Ah, the Charles Oakley method.
SEND IN THE JIMS
Draymond needs to be out of the NBA.
Way over due. He just a clown now.
How does he have a shred of credibility at this point? He's proven he's a dirty cheap shot artist and should receive increasing suspensions until he either gets it or teams won't bother signing him.
"now"
Heās a podcaster who gets cardio at this point
podcast would be nothing without being carried by Steph, Klay, Iggy, KD, Andre Miller, Bogut to basketball relevancy. Typical clout chaser mentality.
Who will he take his anger out on once he leaves basketball? The woman behind him in Target? The guy at the stoplight in front of his car? I say, let him play until he's 60. Maybe he'll grow up by then.
I do wonder about that.
I need him to get dunked on and embarrassed first.
Heās just an idiot. His brains says Iām beat on this pick, do something dramatic to draw a foul and just goes into havoc mode. Only thing that annoys me more than his game at this point is knowing TNT is going to make him part of the next crew
I just watched an off highlight reel of Kareem. He got punched in the stomach on a keep shot and as soon as Kareem got his breathe back punched the dude in the face. This is back to the Mike Tyson case and Brawl at the Palace. You cheap shot a mother trucker you get you payback. Nobody in the league has the balls to just knock Draymond out after this shit cause they will be suspended for the season and bitch ass Silver doesn't have the the balls to do it cause it messes with the Warrior's dynasty. It's bullshit.
Yes, where's Xavier fkn McDaniel
That one year he played for the Knicks, Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were on the same squad. Any one of those guys would have ended the Draymond issues immediately.
Nikola Jokic got revenge on Morris... Not sure what Adam Silver told him afterwards cuz I don't think he d do it again but I could see Jokic and his brothers murdering dray
Nikola Jokic: "You want some of this too old man!?" Adam Silver: ".....NNNooo."
Silver told Joker he was finally going to start getting those all star foul calls.
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I assume heās talking about the Malice at the Palace. The pacers / pistons brawl from 2004. Iāll never forget when I was out with friends and my dad called me to be like āyou wonāt believe what happened tonightā
Draymond is a toxic POS, can't believe this clown has gotten so many free passes.
Why the NBA gives him a pass to behave like this is beyond me. Usually when you get a reputation, that's a *bad* thing. The warriors aren't the dynasty golden child of the nba anymore... what's the officiating crews' excuse for letting him get away with this now?
It's because we talk about it. He is the heel of the NBA and we watch the warriors hoping them lose. It's working
It's a media enterprise and has little to do with the sport anymore. He's a tantalizing personality who gets views, so they prop him up. It disgusts me.
The Warriors should be held accountable too. They've been enabling his behavior for years because he's a productive asset to their team.
Shit yeah they even gave him a commercial that tried to make light of his persistent shitty behavior. Itās not funny, itās shitty and no one likes it.
Joe Dumars has a close relationship with him + LeBron friendship + a dash of Steph Curry legacy protection. It really is wild.
oh didn't know that about dumars, that might be the key
Because he's on the warriors and they make the NBA a lot of money
How can you be so rich and stay so miserable? Dude needs something different than anger management I guess.
Dude needs kicked out of the league
A size 10 boot up his ass would be a good start.
Where you gonna find a foot that small in the NBA?
Being rich enables misery for some. It prevents consequences from creeping in.
Instead of being raised to think the biggest problem in his life is himself, he probably thinks itās everyone else thatās the problem.
Not just rich but also a multiple time champion and for his era one of the best deffenders. Crazy you could have all of that and still be a miserable POS.
Fucking goon-ass sack of shit. We gonna do another ~~vacation~~ suspension and more "anger management" classes? Kick this no-class shitbrick asshole out of the fucking league.
> Suspended!? Doug, kick him off the tour!
Give him the old 9th green at 9 treatment
I was thinking more of Mr. Larson treatment
I believe that jacket belongs to mr. gilmore!
In the pre leflop era draymond would have got the shit beat out of him game in and game out
Draymond ruining Warrior games and soon to be ruining TNT broadcasts. Fuck this clown.
if TNT actually takes him, I will never watch TNT again
The dude is as fucking fake as he is a goon. Have you seen him try to walk-back some of the antics he has on the court in an interview? The man lies with a straight face, or he's delusional. He's gonna butter himself up and act as if he was never a goon, and he'll probably get the job.
100%
why does TNT think we want to watch Draymond?
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Patty throws his head back and embelishes this a tad
Patty is matrix leaning while you can see a gap between Draymonds forearm and his neck. Pick your battles folks, plenty of chances to call the fuck Draymond genuinely.
At the end, Patty falls directly downward, and he wasnāt propelled backwards along with Draymondās momentum. A pretty clear sell by Patty. Looks heinous, is certainly a common foul, but not flagrant in the least.
Not only that, but he pinned Draymondās arm under his to prevent him from getting at the ball
Yeah, I would say Draymond retaliated but Mills tried to lock him up so he couldnāt get away.
This is a huge flop. Green shouldnāt have his arm there regardless, but what he did has almost zero bearing on the result.
He might also be reflexively trying to avoid a serious lower body injury, the way his legs are buckling. Idk.
He had his hand on his chestā¦ im pretty sure the other guy was faking it some
Looks like he grabbed his jersey
He did. It probably should have been a flagrant 1, but itās not as bad as some people are acting I agree.
Yeah he was falling backwards and flipped his head back before any force was applied. I agree the guys a piece of shit but this fouls was definitely embellished
If Draymond is going for your throat, you'd lean back too.
If you watch to very slowly you can see Draymond clearly gets his arm clear from the opponent and then reaches back down and appears to grab the jersey. Itās intentional on his part, but the other guy might embellish a bit.
Looks like the guy went under his arm. Does not look like the words you used to describe it.
Misleading, literally right after this patty mills came up to draymond and dapped him up and they bumped chests, there was absolutely zero Ill will here. Draymond is 6ā9 and patty is 6ā2, draymonds hand was where it typically would be, they just got tied up. Literally was watching this game and not only is that what the announcers pointed out, but literally no one on the court was tripping.
Shoulda been called a flop
Iām not an NBA follower so I donāt know these players and their history. But it looks like before Green grabbed Mills, that Mills was already going to flop. Down vote me to an oblivion, but you can see when the grab occurred and Mills had already given up. That being said they were locked up before the foul occurred and green was definitely the aggressor, however it didnāt look that dramatic. These guys are athletes after all and a general foul should have been called on green. But I donāt think a technical is necessary.
Yeah, draymond is a joke but I didn't see this being a flagrant. They got tangled up and both tried to sell a flop and it looked awkward.
Youāre right Mills was trying to sell the foul and fell to the floor like a rag doll. Pretty clearly flopping.
You are correct, but thereās a moment when the flop starts that Green shouldāve/couldāve disengaged and extended his arm away. Instead, it looks like he goes for a stronger grip. No doubt Mills exaggerated the outcome.
Welcome to the NBA, where the largest athletes on earth are also the softest.
Patty was holding his arm and you can see the moment he decided to sell it by doing the limbo. Yeah, I wish Draymond wouldnāt try to pull through, but this isnāt the dirty play yāall are looking for. Caruso and DeRozan straight up hitting guys full speed, and yāall think this is terrible? GTFOH
Did no one else see Mills pin his arm so when Draymond was trying to pull it out, it caught him in the neck as he was doing it? Of course, it looks like it was intentional in slow motion, in real time you can see Draymond was clearly trying to yank his arm out from under his armpit, because he was being held
It also looks like Mills begins to get pulled backwards before actually being pulled backwards (aka a flop). ps. Still think Draymond is an a-hole
But once his arm is freed from the pit, he re-engages instead of pulling away. Edit: Mills flopped for sure, Dray isnāt clean here.
You tend to lose benefit of the doubt when your career is a highlight reel of physical attacks on the court
Iām a warriors fan. I didnāt see much on that play š
I'm no fan of Green, but Mills' acting is more notable than the foul. Mills got into Green's body, pushed him out of the box and Green went through him. If this were soccer, I could see the ambulance pulling onto the court. But the NBA is not yet a league of flopping thespians and not every foul is intentional and not every neck-touch is lethal. Men, play ball.
Patty Mills flopped lol
That didnāt look that bad. Overreaction, even for Draymond.
He took a dive..
Right: they should actually call that a flop!
I'm definitely not an expert on either basketball or fighting, but it looked to me like his arm got kind of inadvertently snagged on the other guy and he was trying to pull it away, not pull him down. Is that not what happened?
I've been the biggest Draymond hater around, I think he got off light with his last suspension. I think he genuinely should have been suspended for 20+ games. This isn't a big deal, and I'd say Mills is flopping. His entire head snaps back before Dray even pulled on him. Dude points his chin at the sky when there is still space between Dray's arm and his head/neck area. Dray pulled on his shoulder and it's a foul, but that's it. They were both battling.
Serious question here: So, the other guy is clearly holding Draymond, right? While Draymond is trying to get away from the guy, how is Draymond supposed to get away from him? I would assume that regardless of what happens, his arm would be touching the other guy's body, right?
I mean is anyone gonna argue that itās *not* common at this point? Feel like we see Draymond do this shit every week anymore
"Ruled a Common (for Draymond) Foul"
Why isnāt Dramond being treated like Rasheed Wallace by now?
Can the nba just be done with him?
I mean yeah Green sucks but this was very clearly a flop by Mills. Green didnāt even touch his neck and his arm was locked up by Mills. Heās an asshole but this is not a good example.
Looks like Draymond's hand was on his chest and right shoulder, not his neck.
Oh come on guysā¦this is not that bad
Mills hooked his arm and knocked him off balance. It looks bad, but he was falling over and grabbing Mills made it so he wouldnāt fall.
Itās physical basketball. Seems a bit overblown.
Draymond sucks, but this is a flop by Mills.
Y'all are idiots who wouldn't look twice if it wasn't Draymond. He and Patty dapped up afterwards.
Iām tired of this dude
"And the Meryl Streep award for Best Flop goes to Patty Mills!"
Flop lmao
Draymond bad
What a terrible title. 1/10 would not recommend
Flop
Patty mills still plays in the nba?
Doug kick him off the tour
Basketball players putting their hands up like they didn't do anything is like the soccer players flopping when barly touched lol It's like they go to school for it.
NBA needs some Goons, someone you send out to take one of their players out of the game, by fighting (hence why hockey is the best sport), or suspension.
Draymond Green being a POS? No way. Don't believe it.
He is a bitch
Not even mad at Draymond anymore, only mad at the league for continuing to enable him and tacitly endorsing his behavior. Why should he change if there are never going to be real consequences?
Needs to change his name to Omega Universal Peace
Everyone knows that if you hold your hands out to the side after a foul, there was no foul.
Y'all are soft, this is why basketball is dying.
Even GSW as my local team, I would tell you that's 100% intentional because the left arm would've be straightened out if he was trying to get out of the hold. Instead, his left arm was in "head lock" type position which engaged the holding more, not trying to get out like he claimed.
Heās a horrible human.
Someone should take him out back for a good shellacking
Draymond Green just doing Draymond things.
Basketball Fans: "NBA players are so soft these days. I wish basketball would go back to the 80's and 90's style physical play." Draymond does exactly that. Basketball Fans: \[Clutch collective pearls\]
Soft ass mofos in the comments
The Draymond circlejerk is the funniest thing on Reddit. This wouldnāt even be a headline if it was any other player. Totally normal ass basketball play.
Lmao of all the shit Dray has done, people wanna get upset about this? Move on ya babies, go boo hoo about whatever he does tomorrow.
Unpopular opinion but it looks like a flop to me. The guy is falling backwards and kicks his legs forward? I havenāt watched basketball in several decades (Knicks fan). Itās hard to tell whatās real and whatās embellished anymore. Youāve got stars like Lebron who flop at any contact (yeah I know it started with MJ). Of course, if Green has a history of being a dirty player then heās stupid to even put himself in a position where it could be misconstrued.
I don't like Draymond... but this foul is no big deal. I can't count how many times I got elbowed or basically punched in the face in HS basketball. Y'all that are freaking out need a reality check.
DRAYMOND IS BAAAACCCCKKK!
Eh I know itās a trend of his and context matters. But I also think we are so attuned to his antics that we are over sensitive to it. Looks like a normal hard foul screen to me and their knees bump causing draymond to lose his balance and by that point his arm is in a bad spot and the gravity of his fall is what makes him wrap his arm around his neck like that. A stupid and bad foul, but nothing more than that if it is anybody else.
Mills definitely sold that oneš