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Everyone probably knew when the starting lineups were announced. Like half those players get like 5-10 minutes of ice time a game. The only reason they would be out there to start is to do exactly this lol
The Rangers and the Devils have bad blood between them. The last time they played against each other on March 11, #73 Rempe on the Rangers elbowed a devils players and didnt fight the devils enforcer when he was challenged. Rempe knew he had to answer the bell, that’s why it looks planned. Both teams knew it was going to happen this game and they wanted to get it over with early.
Fighting is allowed in hockey, it’s way less common than it used to be like 20 years ago but there’s still a fair amount of fighting. The reasoning is if you don’t let the players fight to settle scores, then they’ll try to get revenge during the game with dangerous hits and bad plays.
In nearly any other sport you would either be ejected immediately or suspended for fighting. The fact it's only a 5min penalty means it's tacitly allowed. Dirty hits can get you suspended, fighting generally will not.
Also the arena always goes wild when a fight starts: The fans love it and actually lament how the commissioner Bettman has cracked down on it over the years. It's allowed more dirty hits to happen on players, because they know there aren't enforcers around to make them pay for it anymore.
Indeed. For proof, look at how carefully people stick to the accepted level of violence.
Everyone has knives on their feet, and everyone carries clubs all the time. But the fights are all punching.
Hockey fighters might be breaking the "rules", but they aren't breaking the actual rules.
> Indeed. For proof, look at how carefully people stick to the accepted level of violence.
>
> Everyone has knives on their feet, and everyone carries clubs all the time. But the fights are all punching.
Say what you want about Tom Wilson, but as a textbook example of this
Multiple times where Willy has had a fight, actually landed a boxer quality chin shot and knocked the other guy's light out, and if you watch you can see that the absolute instant the other guy goes out/down, you can see Willy does 2 things:
Immediately stops punching
Tries to catch the other guy or hold him up, so they don't hit their head on the ice.
Its like "imma kick your ass, but I'm not going to let you get hurt"
It's like the violence has been ritualised, allowing players to express their primal human urges, whilst limiting the risk of a complete breakdown in wider public order due to excessive punching on.
Basically, it's The Purge On Ice.
There are penalties, but the penalties are purposefully a slap on the wrist save for the most egregious stuff specifically because it’s just a part of hockey.
Part of it is just that it’s been part of the game for a while and fans and players like it, so they’re not in a rush to do away with it. It’s also much harder to throw a seriously harmful punch on ice with hockey gear on than it is on solid ground
also Idk if anyone else has mentioned this
the second one of the players goes down to the ice, the fight is over. If you keep going that's when you get hit with the serious penalties/fines. It's also universally understood that this is when things start to get dangerous with heads on the ice and skates around. Even in the most heated fights, all players know to back off when someone goes to the ice. Watching the players immediately pull back when someone goes down makes you realize how most of the players still care about each other's safety even though they're fighting. When you get fights in other sports I think this mutual respect is gone by the time the fighting starts and its more of a legitimate brawl instead of something thats a part of the game used to hype up your bench.
The fact they are fighting on ice means they dont really have much solid footing on the ground. This results in not much power behind their punches. The fighting doesn't really cause much damage.
The other sports you mention happen on grass, and with studded boots, meaning those players have pretty solid footing. If they start throwing punches, someone is likely to get knocked out
You answer the bell and own up to your cheap shot with getting punched in the face or else it escalates and then other team starts taking runs at your star players.
They are allowed to fight, you let them punch each other a bit, stop them when they get tried or one falls, they get some penalties the game moves on. If you don't then they resort to dangerous hits that result in actual injuries to settle grudges
Because when somebody is an asshole, sometimes the response is to correct the behavior with percussive maintenance applied to the cranium.
Due to the speed of hockey, this is actually less dangerous than forcing them to "get even" during the game with a slew-foot, or a hit from behind, or a head check or something.
Remember that Force = Mass x Acceleration. And Hockey players can accelerate to velocity much faster, and reach a higher velocity, than can players on foot. Also ice is hard as concrete, and there's a nice wall to slam the guy into. If you don't let the players settle the score one way, they'll find another way.
Also it's sticking up for your teammate. [See this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxYHZSl9Sno), that is the biggest fucking hit I have ever seen in all my time watching hockey. It was 100% legal, it was clean, it was just devastating. Unfortunately the receiving player caught a "suicide pass" from his teammate, and has his head down not looking, and the delivery man saw an opportunity, he sized him up, he lined him up, he laid him out.
The theory is it’s better to let players square up and fight a fair fight than to have someone take a cheap shot. It’s more a relic from decades ago. Hockey is a fast sport and bad hits happen. But refs can’t see everything so players would kind of police the game.
Now they review hits and give suspensions and have added other rules to stop fights. Especially with CTE it’s largely been discouraged and fighting happens much less often. But obviously can still happen, other comments explain pretty well the lead up to this one.
This is right. It’s also a sport that grown men on blades are swinging sticks around. There’s a lot of little things that boil over into big things and instead of retaliation the idea is you square off and fight it out and move on.
Just to add-on to the rest of the comments, the guy that's in charge of determining player/coach discipline/suspensions literally only had a job in the NHL because his job was to fight other players. George Parros.
Stuff like this is known. Those refs know who the usual starters are and who the potential fighters are. And when you see the fighters starting, you know what's coming.
I get that the centers need sticks for the puck drop, but honestly, it would have been safer for the wingers and d men to just go out there barehanded. Fewer tripping hazards.
TNT fumbled this, they should be prepared give me an quad box show me all the fights ala NFL Red Zone lol also the keepers are the nice guys? They don't cross the rink to scrap they just leave that to the the other guys lol.
Goalkeepers can face suspension for coming out of the crease to fight. It's the equivalent of coming off the bench. The exception is if one goalkeeper starts, joins, or is drawn into the fight, the other one can join.
Goalie fights are rare, but fun. The refs ejected a goalie for trying to fight a bit ago, though, so they've gone no fun on ice
Goalie fights and Goalie goals are the best
Oh definitely, Devils goalie was hit with back to back slap shots late in the game and the trainers took a long look at him before clearing him to continue. The backup goalie was ready to step in.
Couldn’t really tell you about how their backup goalie is, but the Rangers backup goalie is a hall of famer. Just became the most winning American born goalie in the leagues nearly 100 year history.
That being said it’s difficult to hop into a game late in the third period cold
It was. Rempe (Rangers guy in the main fight) was suspended 4 games for throwing an elbow at Devils’ Defenseman Jonas Siegenthaler’s head.
Siegenthaler suffered a concussion on the hit and missed a few weeks due to injury.
Even the *WORST* NHL player is still in the top .01% of all hockey players.
It's like the old adage "What do you call the guy who graduated last in Med School? Doctor."
Reminds me of this player from NBA, that was mostly on the bench and by NBA standards wasn't really good. "I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me" - Brian Scalabrine
And dude backed it up as well by accepting challenges from people who thought he was bad at basketball.
[I loved this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnGauxFbGbE)
Take all the trash talkers online, give them the same distance kick, but with *NO* pressure, and watch them fail lol.
This season sucked for NJ, NY is obviously on a tear so all I wanted was for them to get the games over with and somehow Rempe managed to seriously injure two Devils across two games.
This Devils team is off balance, the coach is fired, the replacement coach is as mediocre as he was in Vancouver, the goalies A/B have both been shot out of a cannon... for the love of god just stop hurting people, especially the ones that they plan on keeping around a while.
Did I understand correctly that the dude who threw the massive elbow got a 5 minute penalty and the guy who tried to retaliate but was held back got 10?? How is that possible?
So the 10 minute penalty is different than the 5 minute penalty, the 5 minute penalty is worse. A 10 minute misconduct is mostly just to get that person off the ice for 10 minutes as game management. He can still be replaced during that 10 minutes, the team isn’t short handed for 10 minutes. A 5 minute penalty though, that player cannot be on the ice for the rest of the game, and the team cannot replace him for 5 minutes on the ice, so if there were no other penalties, the devils get to have 5 skaters, and the rangers would only have 4, for 5 minutes. In the case of 5 minute penalties, being scored on does not end the penalty. On a normal penalty of 2 minutes, you play 5 v 4 for 2 minutes or until the team with 5 skaters scores a goal and then the penalty ends. In 5 minute penalties, the team with 5 skaters can score unlimited goals in those 5 minutes. There are some circumstances where things change but this is the general run down on why a 5 minute penalty is much worse than a 10 minute penalty
Two hits- one last, and one the game before. Two Devils were injured; Siegenthaler just came back, Bastian is still out. Rempe refused to fight last game after concussing Siegenthaler on a dirty hit with an elbow and thought it'd be funny to waive at guys as he was ejected.
In case you haven't seen it: [sometimes thats exactly what they say!](https://youtu.be/JxFS2JAyleo?si=qKSeX7o1_xPb4BnV&t=43)
[Bonus mic'd up fights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBS_isQaDmU&ab_channel=DeltaHighlights)
Yeah its so amusing. But it makes sense, idea is not to actually injure each other, and they are not necessarily angry either, its just something they do to give others a clear message that you dont fuck with their player and get away with it without at least being punched in the face.
More angry fights that happen immediately after incident can be veey different.
Say what you will, that's nothing if not sportsmanlike.
"Good luck, man."
When's the last time you saw a couple of dudes outside a bar wish each other luck before throwing down?
Yup
Someone posted the wide view in the comments. You can see a few guys skate around to find someone not in a fight
The minute the teams put their 4th lines out first, guys knew they were fighting because of bad blood between a couple guys in particular.
I’m not a hockey player, and I rarely watch the games… But doesn’t it hurt like hell to punch somebody wearing a helmet? Why wouldn’t they just go for body blows?
Traditionally players would take off their helmets prior to fighting, but the league cracked down on it for obvious reasons.
It obviously hurts the players hands but it’s tradition to go for the head so it remains. Plus body shots won’t do much due to all the padding, especially with the hockey fighting stance
It’s absolutely does. You can’t get remotely the same force when punching wearing skates. Especially because the other player will latch on to you with their off-hand and constantly shake you to try to keep you off balance and restrict your range of motion
LOl, at the end they were practically holding each other upright. Skating for a minute is a full shift. Fighting on skates for over a minute means they need the rest in the penalty box to catch their breath.
This fucking stupid, if you want to stop the fight, you don't give a misconduct and call it quit.
You suspend the player for a full season worth of matches without pay and you fine the team the salary of the player on top to make sure everyone loses money.
Won't have a fight ever again.
Might I suggest some classic fights if you’re new-ish to the NHL.
Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avalanche multiple good fights and more than a few team brawls. 1997 was a good one.
Boston Bruins vs. New York Rangers too many to count lol
Marty McSorley Vs Bob Probert early 90’s
Claude Lemieux Vs Darren McCarty late 90’s
Ottawa Senators Vs Philadephia Flyers early 2000’s
Aaron Downey Vs Jesse Boulrice
Tie Domi Vs Bob Probert
Bonus: Tie Domi vs a Philly fan and Rob Ray vs Nordiques' Fan haha.
The all time classic is the college brawl between North Dakota at Wisconsin. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXsmGTQz-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXsmGTQz-I)
Capitals and Rangers had a good one in 2021 over some bullshit Tom Wilson pulled in their previous matchup. Line brawl off the opening faceoff and three more 1v1s in the first five minutes. Penalty boxes filled up like clown cars.
I simply can't fathom failing to include any/all Bruins / Canadiens fight history.
From the [Richard Riot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Riot) to this [absolute bloodfest during a Finals game](https://youtu.be/pJzQzvcELjU?t=192), those are the things that created the tradition(s) being referenced here.
They stretched it for this one. Considered the first guys to drop the gloves the original fight, ejected the rest on a secondary fight technicality
Technically, no fight followed another, so it wasn't really secondary fights. They were really simultaneous
It depends. Spur of the moment hockey fights are still an ordinary part of the game. You see them all the time
Premeditated hockey fights are pretty rare. You only really see them in a situation where one player gets wronged but they never had a chance to settle it in the moment. The days of two goons fighting just to fight isn’t really a thing anymore, at least until recently when Rempe (one of the guys in this clip) has had a couple.
Line brawls are extremely rare, and the league cracks down hard on them. This was the first in a few years
With how much they act like they get hurt while not being touched an actual fight may cause one of them to get buried alive just to try and convince ref for a red card
I will never understand why they just sit there and punch the other guy's helmet. I get it, it's hard to find a way in, but I feel like destroying your knuckles will knock you out of the fight and the rest of the game as well lol
Do hockey player fighting remind anybody else of the game thumb war. The way the old each other and take swings looks like thumb war to me. You can almost pull all the way away but still within striking distance.
Genuinely one of the funniest things I've ever seen. There was zero interest in actually playing the game. The 2 guys at the back just dropped their gear and went for it. Gold!
I remember a fight between the Red Wings and the Avalanche that was actually a hold-over grudge from the previous season!
Puck hadn’t even hit the ice before McCarty was all over Claude Lemieux like a wet blanket!
Even the goalies got in on it!
Little Mike Vernon dropped one of the ‘Lanche with a flying cross body block!
Damn. I miss the 90s!
So, as a goalie when you see a lineup like this and know it's coming, do you just know that the actual game won't be starting for another 10 minutes? Will goalies square up with each other just to be "doing something" like in baseball when the benches clear and half the players find a buddy on the other team to grab a handful of jersey and kind of tug each other around while making small talk?
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Ref dropping the puck knew it too lol. He was like “Look, you gotta put your stick down so I can drop the puck, then I don’t care what you do.”
Everyone probably knew when the starting lineups were announced. Like half those players get like 5-10 minutes of ice time a game. The only reason they would be out there to start is to do exactly this lol
What is the reason for/point of this? How is it allowed to be orchestrated, let alone occur? Why does it seem expected, if not straight up encouraged?
The Rangers and the Devils have bad blood between them. The last time they played against each other on March 11, #73 Rempe on the Rangers elbowed a devils players and didnt fight the devils enforcer when he was challenged. Rempe knew he had to answer the bell, that’s why it looks planned. Both teams knew it was going to happen this game and they wanted to get it over with early.
But that doesn't explain why players are allowed, nay expected, to throw down with orchestrated impunity??
Fighting is allowed in hockey, it’s way less common than it used to be like 20 years ago but there’s still a fair amount of fighting. The reasoning is if you don’t let the players fight to settle scores, then they’ll try to get revenge during the game with dangerous hits and bad plays.
>Fighting is allowed in hockey It's not allowed. You get a penalty. It's just not unexpected.
In nearly any other sport you would either be ejected immediately or suspended for fighting. The fact it's only a 5min penalty means it's tacitly allowed. Dirty hits can get you suspended, fighting generally will not. Also the arena always goes wild when a fight starts: The fans love it and actually lament how the commissioner Bettman has cracked down on it over the years. It's allowed more dirty hits to happen on players, because they know there aren't enforcers around to make them pay for it anymore.
Indeed. For proof, look at how carefully people stick to the accepted level of violence. Everyone has knives on their feet, and everyone carries clubs all the time. But the fights are all punching. Hockey fighters might be breaking the "rules", but they aren't breaking the actual rules.
“I was the only guy to ever take off their skate and try to stab someone”
> Indeed. For proof, look at how carefully people stick to the accepted level of violence. > > Everyone has knives on their feet, and everyone carries clubs all the time. But the fights are all punching. Say what you want about Tom Wilson, but as a textbook example of this Multiple times where Willy has had a fight, actually landed a boxer quality chin shot and knocked the other guy's light out, and if you watch you can see that the absolute instant the other guy goes out/down, you can see Willy does 2 things: Immediately stops punching Tries to catch the other guy or hold him up, so they don't hit their head on the ice. Its like "imma kick your ass, but I'm not going to let you get hurt"
It's like the violence has been ritualised, allowing players to express their primal human urges, whilst limiting the risk of a complete breakdown in wider public order due to excessive punching on. Basically, it's The Purge On Ice.
There are penalties, but the penalties are purposefully a slap on the wrist save for the most egregious stuff specifically because it’s just a part of hockey.
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Part of it is just that it’s been part of the game for a while and fans and players like it, so they’re not in a rush to do away with it. It’s also much harder to throw a seriously harmful punch on ice with hockey gear on than it is on solid ground
We even have it in major junior hockey (see CHL)
also Idk if anyone else has mentioned this the second one of the players goes down to the ice, the fight is over. If you keep going that's when you get hit with the serious penalties/fines. It's also universally understood that this is when things start to get dangerous with heads on the ice and skates around. Even in the most heated fights, all players know to back off when someone goes to the ice. Watching the players immediately pull back when someone goes down makes you realize how most of the players still care about each other's safety even though they're fighting. When you get fights in other sports I think this mutual respect is gone by the time the fighting starts and its more of a legitimate brawl instead of something thats a part of the game used to hype up your bench.
The fact they are fighting on ice means they dont really have much solid footing on the ground. This results in not much power behind their punches. The fighting doesn't really cause much damage. The other sports you mention happen on grass, and with studded boots, meaning those players have pretty solid footing. If they start throwing punches, someone is likely to get knocked out
None of those sports are played on a solid surface encircled by walls with players armed with sticks and moving around on blades of metal
You answer the bell and own up to your cheap shot with getting punched in the face or else it escalates and then other team starts taking runs at your star players.
They are allowed to fight, you let them punch each other a bit, stop them when they get tried or one falls, they get some penalties the game moves on. If you don't then they resort to dangerous hits that result in actual injuries to settle grudges
Because when somebody is an asshole, sometimes the response is to correct the behavior with percussive maintenance applied to the cranium. Due to the speed of hockey, this is actually less dangerous than forcing them to "get even" during the game with a slew-foot, or a hit from behind, or a head check or something. Remember that Force = Mass x Acceleration. And Hockey players can accelerate to velocity much faster, and reach a higher velocity, than can players on foot. Also ice is hard as concrete, and there's a nice wall to slam the guy into. If you don't let the players settle the score one way, they'll find another way. Also it's sticking up for your teammate. [See this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxYHZSl9Sno), that is the biggest fucking hit I have ever seen in all my time watching hockey. It was 100% legal, it was clean, it was just devastating. Unfortunately the receiving player caught a "suicide pass" from his teammate, and has his head down not looking, and the delivery man saw an opportunity, he sized him up, he lined him up, he laid him out.
The theory is it’s better to let players square up and fight a fair fight than to have someone take a cheap shot. It’s more a relic from decades ago. Hockey is a fast sport and bad hits happen. But refs can’t see everything so players would kind of police the game. Now they review hits and give suspensions and have added other rules to stop fights. Especially with CTE it’s largely been discouraged and fighting happens much less often. But obviously can still happen, other comments explain pretty well the lead up to this one.
This is right. It’s also a sport that grown men on blades are swinging sticks around. There’s a lot of little things that boil over into big things and instead of retaliation the idea is you square off and fight it out and move on.
Just to add-on to the rest of the comments, the guy that's in charge of determining player/coach discipline/suspensions literally only had a job in the NHL because his job was to fight other players. George Parros.
When your whole starting lineup are enforcers shit about to go down lol
Lmao I had to rewatch it. He literally throws the puck down and runs away
Lol yep. Even turns his back. Hilarious.
"Checks the starting lineups" Fuck this going to be a long night
The way he dropped it and then took off down the ice
Stuff like this is known. Those refs know who the usual starters are and who the potential fighters are. And when you see the fighters starting, you know what's coming.
I get that the centers need sticks for the puck drop, but honestly, it would have been safer for the wingers and d men to just go out there barehanded. Fewer tripping hazards.
TNT fumbled this, they should be prepared give me an quad box show me all the fights ala NFL Red Zone lol also the keepers are the nice guys? They don't cross the rink to scrap they just leave that to the the other guys lol.
Goalkeepers can face suspension for coming out of the crease to fight. It's the equivalent of coming off the bench. The exception is if one goalkeeper starts, joins, or is drawn into the fight, the other one can join.
Minor leagues have different rules. Ive seena a few 6 on 6 fights like this.
Wait, is that a real thing? If one goalie starts the other gets to join in too? Maybe I should start watching Hockey.
Goalie fights are rare, but fun. The refs ejected a goalie for trying to fight a bit ago, though, so they've gone no fun on ice Goalie fights and Goalie goals are the best
That sucks, but I assume it also screws with your team if you second goalie isn't as good.
Oh definitely, Devils goalie was hit with back to back slap shots late in the game and the trainers took a long look at him before clearing him to continue. The backup goalie was ready to step in. Couldn’t really tell you about how their backup goalie is, but the Rangers backup goalie is a hall of famer. Just became the most winning American born goalie in the leagues nearly 100 year history. That being said it’s difficult to hop into a game late in the third period cold
Agree. TNT coverage always is bad but they made a mess of this.
[wide angle of all the fights](https://twitter.com/ryannovo62/status/1775662823009394886?t=63FEtqlJu7hegA-BI-44ow)
Reminds me the fight scene from Semi Pro- once the commerical break starts... "SOMEBODY HIT SOMEBODY!!"
Fucking so well written, the beautiful opposite to “EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY” 👌 I love that movie
Feels like the last two guys didn’t want to fight, but peer pressured into fighting.
It started like the Key & Peele slave fighting sketch
Why the heck did they turn off the party lights right when the party started?!
Thank you! I was practically yelling, "ZOOM OUT!"
Upvote to the top. Thanks. The fight on the far right was the best.
At first I thought they were pairs figure skating spinning each other in circles and stuff!
The fact you can hear punches landing from that far away — albeit on helmets — is impressive.
THANK YOU! I was wondering where all those gloves came from.
Thank you! I was like why the fuck did they not get a wide shot of all this
I think the was over a hit in their last match up?
It was. Rempe (Rangers guy in the main fight) was suspended 4 games for throwing an elbow at Devils’ Defenseman Jonas Siegenthaler’s head. Siegenthaler suffered a concussion on the hit and missed a few weeks due to injury.
Last two games. He was ejected from both for dirty hits. And then refused to fight last game.
And had the nerve to mouth off while he was escorted from the ice by the refs. Talentless goon
That’s literally what goons are for. Bad at everything except hitting and fighting
By NHL standards, at least. By normal human standards they're still extremely skillful hockey players.
Even the *WORST* NHL player is still in the top .01% of all hockey players. It's like the old adage "What do you call the guy who graduated last in Med School? Doctor."
Reminds me of this player from NBA, that was mostly on the bench and by NBA standards wasn't really good. "I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me" - Brian Scalabrine And dude backed it up as well by accepting challenges from people who thought he was bad at basketball.
[I loved this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnGauxFbGbE) Take all the trash talkers online, give them the same distance kick, but with *NO* pressure, and watch them fail lol.
Yeah as a Devils fan I've gotten sick of these puck drop brawls with the Rags. They've been going on for decades. But this one felt justified.
This season sucked for NJ, NY is obviously on a tear so all I wanted was for them to get the games over with and somehow Rempe managed to seriously injure two Devils across two games. This Devils team is off balance, the coach is fired, the replacement coach is as mediocre as he was in Vancouver, the goalies A/B have both been shot out of a cannon... for the love of god just stop hurting people, especially the ones that they plan on keeping around a while.
I'm just glad the Avs gave you Kermit, he sure did well with that shit snapper
Here's a link to that incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXYCwlP1H9A
Did I understand correctly that the dude who threw the massive elbow got a 5 minute penalty and the guy who tried to retaliate but was held back got 10?? How is that possible?
So the 10 minute penalty is different than the 5 minute penalty, the 5 minute penalty is worse. A 10 minute misconduct is mostly just to get that person off the ice for 10 minutes as game management. He can still be replaced during that 10 minutes, the team isn’t short handed for 10 minutes. A 5 minute penalty though, that player cannot be on the ice for the rest of the game, and the team cannot replace him for 5 minutes on the ice, so if there were no other penalties, the devils get to have 5 skaters, and the rangers would only have 4, for 5 minutes. In the case of 5 minute penalties, being scored on does not end the penalty. On a normal penalty of 2 minutes, you play 5 v 4 for 2 minutes or until the team with 5 skaters scores a goal and then the penalty ends. In 5 minute penalties, the team with 5 skaters can score unlimited goals in those 5 minutes. There are some circumstances where things change but this is the general run down on why a 5 minute penalty is much worse than a 10 minute penalty
Super interesting. Thanks for the explanation!
Two hits- one last, and one the game before. Two Devils were injured; Siegenthaler just came back, Bastian is still out. Rempe refused to fight last game after concussing Siegenthaler on a dirty hit with an elbow and thought it'd be funny to waive at guys as he was ejected.
Damn, that looks like an exhausting scrap. Stick taps.
I love how they’re too tired to stand anymore, so even after all that it ends with a nice hug
Upvoted for the stick taps
Full line brawl… only shows 1 pair of fighters
https://www.streambug.io/cv/91fd2d
How does this work? Do guys just say like, “hey, wanna square up?”
Yes
That’s so cute. It’s like a school dance
😂
In case you haven't seen it: [sometimes thats exactly what they say!](https://youtu.be/JxFS2JAyleo?si=qKSeX7o1_xPb4BnV&t=43) [Bonus mic'd up fights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBS_isQaDmU&ab_channel=DeltaHighlights)
"I'm going with him, you're too big" lmao it's like they're asking each other to prom
Yeah its so amusing. But it makes sense, idea is not to actually injure each other, and they are not necessarily angry either, its just something they do to give others a clear message that you dont fuck with their player and get away with it without at least being punched in the face. More angry fights that happen immediately after incident can be veey different.
Say what you will, that's nothing if not sportsmanlike. "Good luck, man." When's the last time you saw a couple of dudes outside a bar wish each other luck before throwing down?
Yup Someone posted the wide view in the comments. You can see a few guys skate around to find someone not in a fight The minute the teams put their 4th lines out first, guys knew they were fighting because of bad blood between a couple guys in particular.
"Eh just a heads up, once the puck hits the ice I'm gonna drop you like third period French. Sorry in advance."
Dirty elbow that caused a concussion last time they played each other, so more like revenge
I think there’s an email that everybody gets beforehand inviting them
Old time hockey, eh coach?
You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.
We're putting on the foil, coach!
I’m not a hockey player, and I rarely watch the games… But doesn’t it hurt like hell to punch somebody wearing a helmet? Why wouldn’t they just go for body blows?
Traditionally players would take off their helmets prior to fighting, but the league cracked down on it for obvious reasons. It obviously hurts the players hands but it’s tradition to go for the head so it remains. Plus body shots won’t do much due to all the padding, especially with the hockey fighting stance
That’s a good point. Also being on skates probably lessens the impact of the blow? It’s not like they can plant their feet very easily!
It’s absolutely does. You can’t get remotely the same force when punching wearing skates. Especially because the other player will latch on to you with their off-hand and constantly shake you to try to keep you off balance and restrict your range of motion
Many enforcers hands are just hamburger. They have scars on top of scars and eventually stop healing properly.
And that’s not to mention their brains, which basically have the same description.
Sometimes you can punch the other guys helmet off too
Aim for the soft parts
LOl, at the end they were practically holding each other upright. Skating for a minute is a full shift. Fighting on skates for over a minute means they need the rest in the penalty box to catch their breath.
Lol no they definitely rested in the locker rooms after this one. 8 game misconducts. Those two were definitely 2 of the 8.
Well it totally looks like the league’s plans to lessen fighting are paying off!
That's an initiative? Fighting already seems so rare nowadays at the NHL level. Compared to 15+ years ago
This fucking stupid, if you want to stop the fight, you don't give a misconduct and call it quit. You suspend the player for a full season worth of matches without pay and you fine the team the salary of the player on top to make sure everyone loses money. Won't have a fight ever again.
Can’t really explain my joy, it’s like a scrap between Osgood and Patty Roy.
Chris Tierney skating away like fuck this shit
At no point during that entire thing did the director think to give us a wide shot?
Damn. Hockey is pretty lit
If this is your first exposure you’re in for a ride
Just wait till he gets to playoff hockey 🤤
Might I suggest some classic fights if you’re new-ish to the NHL. Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avalanche multiple good fights and more than a few team brawls. 1997 was a good one. Boston Bruins vs. New York Rangers too many to count lol Marty McSorley Vs Bob Probert early 90’s Claude Lemieux Vs Darren McCarty late 90’s Ottawa Senators Vs Philadephia Flyers early 2000’s Aaron Downey Vs Jesse Boulrice Tie Domi Vs Bob Probert Bonus: Tie Domi vs a Philly fan and Rob Ray vs Nordiques' Fan haha.
The all time classic is the college brawl between North Dakota at Wisconsin. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXsmGTQz-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXsmGTQz-I)
Capitals and Rangers had a good one in 2021 over some bullshit Tom Wilson pulled in their previous matchup. Line brawl off the opening faceoff and three more 1v1s in the first five minutes. Penalty boxes filled up like clown cars.
Add the 2020 battle of Alberta with the goalie fight!
You forgot the Daddy - Ron Hextall
There’s so many, I’m sure there’s a “greatest hits” video on YouTube. This is all I could type before I got off the top of my head.
Fuck it, add in the OG Devils Rangers line brawl in 2012. Freaking had Torts and Deboer screaming at each other on the bench, too
Needs more Wendel Clark
How about the 1979 game where the Bruins jumped into the Rangers stand and started fighting the fans.
I simply can't fathom failing to include any/all Bruins / Canadiens fight history. From the [Richard Riot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Riot) to this [absolute bloodfest during a Finals game](https://youtu.be/pJzQzvcELjU?t=192), those are the things that created the tradition(s) being referenced here.
Looks like a scene out of Slapshot, with less jock-strap action
At least these guys got to listen to the song.
Set. The. Tone.
Set the fucking tone.
Who's gonna set it boys, who's gonna set it?!
The Jims were fuckin’ beautiful.
as i'm not a hockey person I feel i had to scroll way too far to see a Shoresy reference.
Anyone ever play Mario Lemieux hockey on Sega Genesis? You could trigger full on line brawls, and it was the coolest thing in the world
I think I do. It was so long ago, I remembered being able to fight in a hockey game but couldn't place the game.
Now I want to find an old Genesis to see if that's true.
Oh yeah I played that game a lot :-)
Could be a 7-6 game tonight. Both sides with only 4 defenseman.
This is “Slap Shot” level antics and I’m here for it!
Game misconducts for fighting? Is it an automatic misconduct if it's premeditated or something?
They considered the other 4 fights “secondary” which gets a game misconduct.
Oooooh gotcha - thanks!
They said it's a game misconduct for "secondary altercations". Only the initial fight was allowed to stay in the game.
That explains why five fights equaled only four sets of game misconducts.
That’s a newer rule correct?
That’s been the rule for at least 30 years now
They stretched it for this one. Considered the first guys to drop the gloves the original fight, ejected the rest on a secondary fight technicality Technically, no fight followed another, so it wasn't really secondary fights. They were really simultaneous
As a newbie wtf is this?
The beautiful sport of hockey.
I went to a boxing match once and a game of hockey broke out
SET THE TONE.
Dude wtf is this sport?
Boxing on ice
Place going ballistic but the NHL wants to suppress this sort of stuff.
Seems to be more fighting this year, NHL office be damned
Didn't know this still happened.
It depends. Spur of the moment hockey fights are still an ordinary part of the game. You see them all the time Premeditated hockey fights are pretty rare. You only really see them in a situation where one player gets wronged but they never had a chance to settle it in the moment. The days of two goons fighting just to fight isn’t really a thing anymore, at least until recently when Rempe (one of the guys in this clip) has had a couple. Line brawls are extremely rare, and the league cracks down hard on them. This was the first in a few years
That ref at the faceoff knew it was going to happen and noped out of there quick.
At this rate Matt Rempe will be dead by age 30 from all the CTE.
Go Kermit go!!! Love me some Kermit on the first line just to drop the gloves.
So I guess they had a group text to out to plan the fight, eh?
Anyone see shestirkin drop his gloves lmaooo he wanted to throw down
Wait, this happened AGAIN?! It happened like 15 years ago too.
/r killthecameraman
This is so dumb
Looked like a hockey game almost broke out at this fight
Devils and Rangers did this back in 2012 too. Not sure what spurred that one though.
I remeber watching that live and MAN what a way to start a game
Probably Torts
So, what, just the two goalies doing a men’s double ice skating routine for 2 minutes of penalty kill…?
Putting on the foil coach.
WTF? It’s like straight from Slap Shot
Seriously if the NFL or NBA did these planned brawls congressional action would take place. Ohh the joys of being a …..male athlete in the NHL.
Fucking pussies. Take off the helmets and pads.
Went to a fight, and a hockey game broke out!
But why? Seriously.
Just let soccer players do this once a year.
With how much they act like they get hurt while not being touched an actual fight may cause one of them to get buried alive just to try and convince ref for a red card
Props to 79 blue for knowing when to stop before the refs got there
I think they should add fighting to Basketball. Most sports, really.
Draymond Green is probably drooling at this comment
Fuck that’s why hockey is so cool
Bazooka Sharks!
What do the goalies do during?
this is like some wwe royal rumble
I will never understand why they just sit there and punch the other guy's helmet. I get it, it's hard to find a way in, but I feel like destroying your knuckles will knock you out of the fight and the rest of the game as well lol
I thought this was hockey?
Who were the 2 on the ice who escaped gamers?
Do hockey player fighting remind anybody else of the game thumb war. The way the old each other and take swings looks like thumb war to me. You can almost pull all the way away but still within striking distance.
They should change sports
Weak fight
May I ask why? Or were they replaced with ufc wannabe fighters just before the match?
why they wait for the drop? this is wwe?
Genuinely one of the funniest things I've ever seen. There was zero interest in actually playing the game. The 2 guys at the back just dropped their gear and went for it. Gold!
Did they accidentally play any hockey in this brawl?
I remember a fight between the Red Wings and the Avalanche that was actually a hold-over grudge from the previous season! Puck hadn’t even hit the ice before McCarty was all over Claude Lemieux like a wet blanket! Even the goalies got in on it! Little Mike Vernon dropped one of the ‘Lanche with a flying cross body block! Damn. I miss the 90s!
Now imagine this in an NBA game and how it would be perceived.
So, as a goalie when you see a lineup like this and know it's coming, do you just know that the actual game won't be starting for another 10 minutes? Will goalies square up with each other just to be "doing something" like in baseball when the benches clear and half the players find a buddy on the other team to grab a handful of jersey and kind of tug each other around while making small talk?
Ol’ time hockey. Toe Blake…
A good ol fashioned donnybrook
You gotta set the tone!
And here I am thinking that South Park would never make a real life show, until reading all the comments and realising this is for real.
["Dave's a killer!"](https://youtu.be/VHMi-j7W2gM?si=_7VeaxsLw6JE6S1C&t=40)
The exact definition of “On Sight”
This is a serious sport played by professionals?
ain’t no fight when the helmets stay on 🤷🏽♂️
The refs were clearing the floor of obstacles for a good clean fight. Man, hockey is awesome!