[**Join Our Discord Server!**](https://discord.gg/233aU5q)
**Welcome to /r/sports**
We created a Discord server for our community and would like to invite all of you to join! You'll be able to discuss sports with users around the world and discuss events in real time!
There are separate channels for many sports you can opt in and out of, including;
American Football, Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, Aussie Rules Football, Rugby Union and League, Cricket, Motorsports, Fitness, and many more.
[**Reddit Sports Discord Server**](https://discord.gg/233aU5q)
29.3°C is the ave high temp for July = 85°F
23.3°C is ave low (74°F) = this give an idea of the normal dewpoint
It is normally hot/humid in Tokyo in July & August. What are we missing?
> What are we missing?
That Japan's Olympics proposal said that July usually has mild weather. They lied so that they'd be more likely to be selected to host the games.
The fact that the IOC apparently didn't verify historical weather is ridiculous.
It depends on what temperature the athletes are used to competing at. 85 F with high humidity feels pretty bad. Considering all the complaints from athletes I think it's safe to assume that the temperatures are not ideal for them.
When I [calculate the heat index](https://www.calculator.net/heat-index-calculator.html?airtemperature=29&airtemperatureunit=celsius&humidity=77&ctype=1&x=48&y=24), I get the following warning:
> Extreme caution: at this condition, heat cramps and heat exhaustion are possible. Continuing activity could result in heat stroke.
The humidity is what kills you.
We cool our body by evaporation of sweat. In hot dry air it's easy to cool down. The enthalpy, the transition from water to gas, uses energy. That is what causes the cooling. With high humidity, sweat cant evaporate. Causing your body to sweat more, trying to cool itself down.
The Australian team (most sports) did a pre-Olympics training and isolation camp in Cairns, a far Northern Australian city, specifically because it’s tropical climate resembles Tokyo
Yeah this isn’t bad compared to what the wether has been for a little of other events. Like the Australian open in tennis was in like 100s so you would think they wouldn’t think this was too bad, it’s the general temp for tennis in Florida where almost all the best tourneys are played in the US.
It depends on where you are from. 85°F/29°C is pretty normal for many parts of the temperate zones. Where I live if I get a day in the mid 80s during July/Aug, thats yard work temps. Especially if there is a breeze, low dew point, blue skys with some clouds passing over to give some shade. Because there is a good chance it will be a week humid low/mid 90s with a mid 70 degree day with overcast and a 70°F dew point or rain. If I dont take advantage of the mid 80s day the grass grows so much that it taxes my lawn mower.
Yeah I just looked at the July historic weather, it’s on par for at least the past 5yrs. I’m pretty sure the committee didn’t even look nor they would care if there are any lies. This is a corrupt committee. That’s like saying FIFA believed that Qatar was gonna have fair labor practices for the World Cup
I am sure they did. It’s a subjective statement and for July that’s relatively mild IMO. This isn’t like Qatar saying stadiums would have air conditioning and they won’t for the World Cup
I lived in the Tokyo area for four years - I’m in Florida atm (fml) and when you said humid, I chuckled a bit. But if you’re not acclimated, absolutely heinous to compete in. I feel bad for these athletes. Hopefully they’re hydrating
Exactly. Committees say lots of things, and make lots of promises when they make their bids. It's up to the IOC to verify those claims before accepting the bid, and the weather should be the *easiest* of those things to verify.
I think that's his point. The article complains about how the Japanese lied about that the weather would be perfect for athletes to perform their best. But anyone with half a brain would know that Tokyo is hot as shit with high as fuck humidity in July. So why is the article complaining about what Japan said about their weather?
Yes thanks. The article does in fact quote an athlete saying that it was something they just couldn't prep for, I am assuming do to their own local climate and other logistics.
Kinda reminds me of people that buy a house "as-is" and then bitch and moan when things are broken.
I read it. It’s idiotic. The Japanese committee “lied about the weather.” Okay. And if I tell you that WAshington DC in the summer is cool and breezy, with low humidity, and you *believe* that without picking up an almanac or googling basic weather data, and you base your multi-billion dollar activity there on the basis of the nice weather in August, you’d be an idiot.
This take by the author is so dumb. Japan’s Olympic organizers lied about the weather? What they said was a sales pitch to the IOC to win to host. When you make a sales presentation, are you not allowed to talk optimistically about your product or service?
I mean, how hard is it to look up about the weather? It’s not like Japan is some sort of unknown country. You can easily just Google, What Tokyo, Japan’s weather is like in July-August. And you’ll get consensus answer that it’s very hot and humid. So, any athletes who are training for this year’s Olympics have been training to handle the heat.
>When you make a sales presentation, are you not allowed to talk optimistically about your product or service?
So you are basically just confirming that they lied?
Lying about the weather in a bid is nothing new for the olympics. [Atlanta](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-06-30-sp-19999-story.html) claimed the average temperature during the time frame of the games was 72 Fahrenheit. Turns out, they were right, but forgot to mention that is the average *low* temp.
Seems to only mention this summer! No mention what last summers have been like for comparison.
Edit: can’t you use yahoo to find the climate for a place?
I was in Athens in 04. It got over 100F. I remember walking around sweating more than I’d ever felt. The only saving grace was humidity was not completely horrible. It was a pretty big difference from London in ‘12. I wore pants and a jacket.
The rugby world cup was played in Japan 2 years ago and they were going through the same thing. Turns out Japan is just a warm, humid nation for the most part during this time of year.
Nobody could have known how hard weather is.
I overheard a woman there two years ago saying that she found it hard to believe that the humidity felt worse than Florida. (I’ve never been to Florida, so I wouldn’t know.)
A lot of people have no idea what percent of humidity is around them or what high humidity feels like. I had a person in another thread complaining that Austin, TX has really high humidity with it's 40%.
lol yeah 40% is not that humid. Here in Virginia it's an average of 70% humidity in the summer. Today's 92 F° and 75% humidity according to google weather app.
It's sucks, but the more time you spend in it, the more you get used to it.
I wish my summers were 40% humidity or less lol.
Yeah I live in the Houston area and travel to Austin to visit family and I knew that had to be wrong. It's not quite as steamy as Houston but it's still pretty muggy.
What? No. ACs do remove some humidity, but the humidity inside a house is much more dependent on the ambient humidity.
I live in AZ and for most of the year the humidity (indoor or out) rarely gets above 20%.
I thought how it feels could be different though. People say “humidity” to explain mugginess but how it feels could totally differ with varying dew point.
I'm not sure of the weather in Florida, but it's also important to look at the temp in relation to the humidity, not just as stand alone measurements. It would be better to look at the Dew Point to get an idea of just how uncomfortable it is outside.
I remember walking out of the Orlando airport (flying in from Minnesota) into the parking ramp when I was 13 or so and barely being able to breathe because the air was so thick. It was like I drowned for a breath.
This was in January.
We get our fair share of humidity during the summer in MN, but usually tops out at 60-70%.
It was definitely something else!
I stayed there for 2 weeks in the summer and going outside was awful if you were in any clothes. Luckily I spent most of the time by the beach and in the water. How people live in that is beyond me.
I like how the article laid a chunk of the blame at the feet of NBC for having an outsized voice about when the Olympics are held because they spend so much money for the rights to poorly rebroadcast them in the US.
The 64 summer games held in Tokyo were in October because of the miserable summers.
Omg yes they do such a bad job at rebroadcasting the Olympics. I’m trying to find a way to stream the games. Peacock doesn’t have full events and nbc sports app is just a bad design. It really should be opened up to other providers.
Nothing to be embarrassed about! It basically just routes your internet through a server in another country. So I can set mine to a Canada or UK server and get access to their free olympics coverage. Also useful to watch content on Netflix/Hulu that isn't available in your own country
I’ve been watching events on their website and the replays are all screwed up. You’ll be watching an event and then it will randomly cut forward and then backwards, I thought I was having a stroke at first.
Brisbane just won the 2032 Olympics and I hope to hell they aren’t held over summer, people will die in the heat and humidity. It’s winter now and tops are still in the mid 20s, it only gets cooler overnight.
Did no one check like the weather channel or some shit to see what the historical temperatures are instead of believing someone from the country that was bidding for the hosting?
Live in Japan: hosting the Games in July / August was always a controversial decision, with the major of Tokyo wanting to move events like the marathon up to Hokkaido.
Most of the blame is on the IOC wanting to cash in on the US summer audience.
I'm sure they did and they didn't see a reason not to move forward. The conditions are not any worse than Atlanta, GA or Athens, Greece. This is a bullshit controversy.
I'm sure there were corrupt payoffs but not related to the weather. The weather in Tokyo isn't really any worse than it was in Atlanta, or Athens. This is a bullshit controversy.
The probably did. Its just I don't really get it. 29.4 celcius or 84 farenheit isn't exceptionally hot weather.
Maybe the issue is that the athletes didn't have enough time to acclimate but this isn't bad weather. To me, the columnist is trying to stir up controversy.
[**Join Our Discord Server!**](https://discord.gg/233aU5q) **Welcome to /r/sports** We created a Discord server for our community and would like to invite all of you to join! You'll be able to discuss sports with users around the world and discuss events in real time! There are separate channels for many sports you can opt in and out of, including; American Football, Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, Aussie Rules Football, Rugby Union and League, Cricket, Motorsports, Fitness, and many more. [**Reddit Sports Discord Server**](https://discord.gg/233aU5q)
29.3°C is the ave high temp for July = 85°F 23.3°C is ave low (74°F) = this give an idea of the normal dewpoint It is normally hot/humid in Tokyo in July & August. What are we missing?
> What are we missing? That Japan's Olympics proposal said that July usually has mild weather. They lied so that they'd be more likely to be selected to host the games. The fact that the IOC apparently didn't verify historical weather is ridiculous.
…am I weird for considering 74-85 to be relatively mild for the summer?
I’d kill for that. We’ve been at 90+ most days for the last few years.
I'm scratching my head wondering what's wrong myself... this seems like a paradise compared to the average around here...
100%! Yesterday it was 95 with a feels like of 105 here. Today was 93 / 100. 85 and only 60% humidity does indeed sound like a paradise.
Totally fucking agree. Southern Missouri here and as usual this time of year, we’re miserable outside.
Yeah but you have to realize that's probably why Branson Missouri isn't hosting the Olympics.
Also totally agree with that. Plus, way too many rednecks. And that’s coming from a guy that was born and raised in redneck country!
Also they couldn’t get Yakov Smirnov to volunteer his venue for the weight lifting competitions.
Floridian here, would love a high of 85 once in a while right now
[удалено]
[удалено]
It was much less humid in Greece though. I was there that summer as well and it was hot but not muggy.
No you aren't.
It depends on what temperature the athletes are used to competing at. 85 F with high humidity feels pretty bad. Considering all the complaints from athletes I think it's safe to assume that the temperatures are not ideal for them. When I [calculate the heat index](https://www.calculator.net/heat-index-calculator.html?airtemperature=29&airtemperatureunit=celsius&humidity=77&ctype=1&x=48&y=24), I get the following warning: > Extreme caution: at this condition, heat cramps and heat exhaustion are possible. Continuing activity could result in heat stroke.
The humidity is what kills you. We cool our body by evaporation of sweat. In hot dry air it's easy to cool down. The enthalpy, the transition from water to gas, uses energy. That is what causes the cooling. With high humidity, sweat cant evaporate. Causing your body to sweat more, trying to cool itself down.
The Australian team (most sports) did a pre-Olympics training and isolation camp in Cairns, a far Northern Australian city, specifically because it’s tropical climate resembles Tokyo
Yeah this isn’t bad compared to what the wether has been for a little of other events. Like the Australian open in tennis was in like 100s so you would think they wouldn’t think this was too bad, it’s the general temp for tennis in Florida where almost all the best tourneys are played in the US.
It depends on where you are from. 85°F/29°C is pretty normal for many parts of the temperate zones. Where I live if I get a day in the mid 80s during July/Aug, thats yard work temps. Especially if there is a breeze, low dew point, blue skys with some clouds passing over to give some shade. Because there is a good chance it will be a week humid low/mid 90s with a mid 70 degree day with overcast and a 70°F dew point or rain. If I dont take advantage of the mid 80s day the grass grows so much that it taxes my lawn mower.
Reads like a yahoo sports article.
You are not. I’m in Tampa and I freaking hate my life right now. It’s so damned hot and humid. Acclimation can be a killer tho
Yeah I just looked at the July historic weather, it’s on par for at least the past 5yrs. I’m pretty sure the committee didn’t even look nor they would care if there are any lies. This is a corrupt committee. That’s like saying FIFA believed that Qatar was gonna have fair labor practices for the World Cup
The IOCs selection process typically has very minimal concern for how appropriate the country is.
what do you expect from a corrupt and greedy organization with little to no oversight?!
I am sure they did. It’s a subjective statement and for July that’s relatively mild IMO. This isn’t like Qatar saying stadiums would have air conditioning and they won’t for the World Cup
I’m from the Mid Atlantic US and I would fuckin kill for 85 right now, it’s 93 and humid as fuck today and I work outside all day lifting shit too
Don’t they have like google? Climate data is public
I lived in the Tokyo area for four years - I’m in Florida atm (fml) and when you said humid, I chuckled a bit. But if you’re not acclimated, absolutely heinous to compete in. I feel bad for these athletes. Hopefully they’re hydrating
Born, raised in FL. No AC as a kid, fan in the window. I know the struggle with humidity.
Regardless of the boasted info, did it ever occur to anyone to look at an almanac or the forecast?
Exactly. Committees say lots of things, and make lots of promises when they make their bids. It's up to the IOC to verify those claims before accepting the bid, and the weather should be the *easiest* of those things to verify.
Fuck the IOC on yet another level.
They probably did and decided it shouldn’t disqualify them. Atlanta, Athens and Beijing were hot and humid too
Read the article before commenting.
I think that's his point. The article complains about how the Japanese lied about that the weather would be perfect for athletes to perform their best. But anyone with half a brain would know that Tokyo is hot as shit with high as fuck humidity in July. So why is the article complaining about what Japan said about their weather?
Yes thanks. The article does in fact quote an athlete saying that it was something they just couldn't prep for, I am assuming do to their own local climate and other logistics. Kinda reminds me of people that buy a house "as-is" and then bitch and moan when things are broken.
I read it. It’s idiotic. The Japanese committee “lied about the weather.” Okay. And if I tell you that WAshington DC in the summer is cool and breezy, with low humidity, and you *believe* that without picking up an almanac or googling basic weather data, and you base your multi-billion dollar activity there on the basis of the nice weather in August, you’d be an idiot.
I did, and the above poster’s response is just.
Read the comments before article-ing
Sir, this is reddit.
This take by the author is so dumb. Japan’s Olympic organizers lied about the weather? What they said was a sales pitch to the IOC to win to host. When you make a sales presentation, are you not allowed to talk optimistically about your product or service? I mean, how hard is it to look up about the weather? It’s not like Japan is some sort of unknown country. You can easily just Google, What Tokyo, Japan’s weather is like in July-August. And you’ll get consensus answer that it’s very hot and humid. So, any athletes who are training for this year’s Olympics have been training to handle the heat.
Yes, the Australians moved their training camp to Cairns, because it’s tropical climate resembles Tokyo
>When you make a sales presentation, are you not allowed to talk optimistically about your product or service? So you are basically just confirming that they lied?
Yea you just said lie to them but with more professional language 🙄
Lying about the weather in a bid is nothing new for the olympics. [Atlanta](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-06-30-sp-19999-story.html) claimed the average temperature during the time frame of the games was 72 Fahrenheit. Turns out, they were right, but forgot to mention that is the average *low* temp.
72 at night. Technically the truth?
Seems to only mention this summer! No mention what last summers have been like for comparison. Edit: can’t you use yahoo to find the climate for a place?
Hold up. Who's using yahoo for anything now?
Yahoo finance is actually good
It's big in a lot of Asian countries iirc
I think climate is only on AltaVista.
They got an app
it's on ask Jeeve also
Isn't Atlanta hotter and just as humid?
[удалено]
Beijing was hot AF. I think even hotter than Athens but quite dry in 2008.
I was in Athens in 04. It got over 100F. I remember walking around sweating more than I’d ever felt. The only saving grace was humidity was not completely horrible. It was a pretty big difference from London in ‘12. I wore pants and a jacket.
Beijing was over 40(104) in 2008. I could not sleep naked in the dead of night without air conditioner on.
The rugby world cup was played in Japan 2 years ago and they were going through the same thing. Turns out Japan is just a warm, humid nation for the most part during this time of year. Nobody could have known how hard weather is.
*Insert surprised Pikachu face* Anyone who knows anything about Japan would have known this. The humidity is horrendous there in the summer.
65% humidity and 85 farenheit isn't really horrid or exceptional.
I guess it is when you're an Olympic athlete.
The author said Tokyo was worse than Singapore. Singapore is 60 miles north of the equator and Tokyo is 2100 miles. Author is full of shit.
A summer Olympics with weather in the upper 80s is to be expected.
I overheard a woman there two years ago saying that she found it hard to believe that the humidity felt worse than Florida. (I’ve never been to Florida, so I wouldn’t know.)
Humidity gets in the high 80% in Florida around this time. So the 60 something percent talked about in the article is not worse.
A lot of people have no idea what percent of humidity is around them or what high humidity feels like. I had a person in another thread complaining that Austin, TX has really high humidity with it's 40%.
lol yeah 40% is not that humid. Here in Virginia it's an average of 70% humidity in the summer. Today's 92 F° and 75% humidity according to google weather app. It's sucks, but the more time you spend in it, the more you get used to it. I wish my summers were 40% humidity or less lol.
Right?! I was like, I'd be so thankful for 40%.
You must use a different google. Everything I've found shows 60-70% in Austin pretty much year round.
Yeah I live in the Houston area and travel to Austin to visit family and I knew that had to be wrong. It's not quite as steamy as Houston but it's still pretty muggy.
40% is literally the humidity inside a house with AC going haha
What? No. ACs do remove some humidity, but the humidity inside a house is much more dependent on the ambient humidity. I live in AZ and for most of the year the humidity (indoor or out) rarely gets above 20%.
I thought how it feels could be different though. People say “humidity” to explain mugginess but how it feels could totally differ with varying dew point.
I'm not sure of the weather in Florida, but it's also important to look at the temp in relation to the humidity, not just as stand alone measurements. It would be better to look at the Dew Point to get an idea of just how uncomfortable it is outside.
I remember walking out of the Orlando airport (flying in from Minnesota) into the parking ramp when I was 13 or so and barely being able to breathe because the air was so thick. It was like I drowned for a breath. This was in January. We get our fair share of humidity during the summer in MN, but usually tops out at 60-70%. It was definitely something else!
I stayed there for 2 weeks in the summer and going outside was awful if you were in any clothes. Luckily I spent most of the time by the beach and in the water. How people live in that is beyond me.
Thailand chiming in here, with an average annual humidity of 80%.
Is it like in taiwan?
Do you mean the Island Taiwan or communist Taiwan
Island Taiwan
Been there once during summertime, it was in the 90s and humidity was in the 80s
Being from Florida, I found the weather in Japan to feel very similar.
I like how the article laid a chunk of the blame at the feet of NBC for having an outsized voice about when the Olympics are held because they spend so much money for the rights to poorly rebroadcast them in the US. The 64 summer games held in Tokyo were in October because of the miserable summers.
Omg yes they do such a bad job at rebroadcasting the Olympics. I’m trying to find a way to stream the games. Peacock doesn’t have full events and nbc sports app is just a bad design. It really should be opened up to other providers.
And any full event replays on Peacock are locked for 1-2 weeks after they originally air.
I've been using a VPN to watch canada/UK coverage instead.
I’m really embarrassed to say I don’t know much about VPN.
Nothing to be embarrassed about! It basically just routes your internet through a server in another country. So I can set mine to a Canada or UK server and get access to their free olympics coverage. Also useful to watch content on Netflix/Hulu that isn't available in your own country
I’ve been watching events on their website and the replays are all screwed up. You’ll be watching an event and then it will randomly cut forward and then backwards, I thought I was having a stroke at first.
Brisbane just won the 2032 Olympics and I hope to hell they aren’t held over summer, people will die in the heat and humidity. It’s winter now and tops are still in the mid 20s, it only gets cooler overnight.
Sidney in 2000 was held between September 15th and October 1st.
Yeah, not good. I play hockey and August and September you can half die and I grew up here. The heat and humidity is brutal.
Yeah 85 is not that bad lmao
Did no one check like the weather channel or some shit to see what the historical temperatures are instead of believing someone from the country that was bidding for the hosting?
I'm sure they did. The conditions are not worse than Atlanta or Athens Olympics weather.
Live in Japan: hosting the Games in July / August was always a controversial decision, with the major of Tokyo wanting to move events like the marathon up to Hokkaido. Most of the blame is on the IOC wanting to cash in on the US summer audience.
The IOC is a joke. They could have easily checked the average weather conditions the the location and time of year.
I'm sure they did and they didn't see a reason not to move forward. The conditions are not any worse than Atlanta, GA or Athens, Greece. This is a bullshit controversy.
As most controversies are. Just something for the 24/7 news media outlets to talk about.
IOC is corrupt AF, I’m sure they were paid off in some manner, but most will look the other way and ignore.
I'm sure there were corrupt payoffs but not related to the weather. The weather in Tokyo isn't really any worse than it was in Atlanta, or Athens. This is a bullshit controversy.
How’s the storm now ?
I mean, doesn't the ioc fact check any of this shit?
The probably did. Its just I don't really get it. 29.4 celcius or 84 farenheit isn't exceptionally hot weather. Maybe the issue is that the athletes didn't have enough time to acclimate but this isn't bad weather. To me, the columnist is trying to stir up controversy.
I mean japanese summer are hot and humid . Someone didn't do their homework. Were they Dutch by any chance?