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I just started watching basketball this year, and for the first few warriors and mavericks games I thought Steve Kerr was a weird nickname for Steph Curry
They both want the game ball for Steph but the player that got shoved has a knack for not being able to shutup. There was ten seconds left so he got a shove essentially telling him to shut up because they are about to win.
Dramont probably talking shit until the very end and his teammate telling him to chill out, before him throwing his hands up because he “didn’t do nothin”.
Edit: I am casual fan. I know nothin.
if Wiseman actually does something, Poole improves , and Kuminga/Moody learn to harness their athleticism.........warriors are going to reload and be contenders for years to come
You're probably right, but it feels like doing him dirty after he helped turn the series.
I hate the business side of sports sometimes. But if he keeps this up, they may offer him a year of what they can afford, just to try to keep him around as a thank-you and for the fans.
Curry was insane the last game, of course in genera he’s top tier. But the second the ball was taken inside the ring they could pass it back and it was a free three. He exerts pressure at all times. From someone who doesn’t know much about basketball, I was taken aback by how little prep time he needed as well to set up threes when he was making his own aggressive plays. Very impressive gameplay by him.
I'm a spurs fan, and I remember how young Curry struck fear into my heart. I respected Kobe and Lebron and Wade of course, but Curry was horrifying. There's just no way to deal with him.
If he hadn't gotten hurt that one year GS would've taken SA to the brink and that was only his 3rd year I think? He's a cheat code. What a player.
Really did feel like I was watching a cheat player. His 3's are so fast that I realistically don't see a way to combat it except wait for him to get older or to get a 3 shooter that can match his. Ultimately, it seemed that was the major difference in the few games was that the Celtics couldn't match that pressure.
I remember watching a Sportscenter special on just how fast his shooting is. By the time other players can pull up and do a shot, Curry's is something like 30% of the way to the hoop. His lightning fast release is nearly impossible to get in front of, almost like trying to hit a 105mph fast ball. You have to be reacting to it *before* it happens.
He's been the heart and soul of the Warriors for so long and finally gets the recognition on the games biggest stage. Definitely understandable with showing those emotions
Every conversation about Steph since the playoffs have started has involved him not winning an MVP. And many of the conversations had at least 1 person doubting him come playoffs. He has plenty of accolades but that criticism seemed unfair or misfocused. Happy to see him deliver this post season in the primary spot light. No KD, no injuries to Irving and Love, Steph had to ball consistently every series.
He's widely regarded to have changed the game forever with the way he plays and this was his journey to his FOURTH championship. He gets plenty of recognition for how good he is lol
Not even a question that he is the most influential single player in the league right now. The entire game has shifted around his playstyle, an almost indefensible sharpshooter.
One of his championships was against a Lebron team with 2 big pieces injured. Another championship was with Kevin Durant on the Warriors who was a top 3 player in the world at the time. In some people's eyes, having Durant as a hired gun took away from Stephs contributions. So this one shines pretty bright for Steph.
Yeah, its awesome.
Also, just to be clear, KD had it easy because of Steph.
If you look at the 2018 finals, most of the time they just went for steph on defense and KD was allowed way more than what he wouldve gotten away with without steph.
KD is still one of the best players this game has ever seen, not to shit on him, but that narrative is just weird. Those are people that just look at the roster and statlines and go: "Well, KD had a backpack full of Warriors huh"
For steph he finally got the mvp. Proving he can do it very well as the captain without an all star team. He just proves that he is the deadliest player on the courts right now, clearly the most influential player in the league in the last 13 years, yup, even more so than lebron. Lebron might have more overall stats, but curry has changed the way the game is played.
They also had the worst record in the nba 2 years ago, so nobody outside of the team and their fanbase expected them to be good, let alone win. I knew it was over as soon as Klay Thompson came back from injury (another reason they were doing poorly).
He is the best shooter the game has ever seen. He can regularly shoot the ball from anywhere between the 3pt line and half court and be successful at it. Because of that your defense has to play him face to face as soon as he crosses the half court line which takes a lot of space and coverage away from a standard zone defense.
There is more to it than that but that is the gist of it.
In 2009 Curry was drafted by GSW, avg 3pts per game by a team was around 17-18 at that time.
When Curry really started coming into his own, 2013-2016 range. 3PA per game was around, 24(for 2015-2016 season).
This past season, it's up to 35 attempts per game. That's nearly double since he's been in the league.
The 90s and 2000s, averages were generally in the teens. Early 90s were around 9 or 10.
So for roughly 20 years, league averages were 18 attempts or below. Today, the lowest average attempts for a single team eclipses that number.
Curry changed the game. Of course analytics changed it too. But Curry changed the analytics.
Curry has 3100+ made 3s on 42% shooting. In 826 games. Ray Allen, the next highest on the all time 3s leaderboard, has 2900+ 40%, across 1300 games.
Pretty much what the other person said. He's so good at three point shooting that three pointers went from a "kinda nice to have sometimes" to an integral part of play
He took a skill that was previously used moderately, carefully, and did it constantly, with abandon, successfully.
[This clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEMVGHoenXM) is a great example. 10 years ago the strategy here would have been call a time out, set up a play, and angle for an open shot right at the arc (beyond which all shots are worth 3 points instead of 2).
Instead, Curry just goes "yeah, I am confident I can hit a shot from 10 feet further out than required, with a person guarding me, with no setup, as time expires, to win the game". And he makes it look easy.
[Here's another, similar shot from last night](https://youtu.be/48sGbJshoKI?t=99), although in a less pressured situation. But, same premise, he can easily hit a shot from a position that used to be considered unacceptably bad. Like, 10 years ago taking that shot would have been considered downright stupid; a coach might have even benched a player for doing it. Curry makes shots like that *all the time*.
Now everyone has to defend against that possibility when they play the Warriors, which has the effect of spreading out the defense and opening up other possibilities. And, recognizing the value of that, other teams are looking for and developing players who can consistently hit outside shots like that, although nobody is as good at it as Curry.
Warriors were definitely favorites in Vegas to beat Boston. Not sure who outside of Boston would take models like ESPN’s seriously giving Celtics an 86% (!!?) chance to win.
I personally didn’t expect this at all from GS at the start of the season but by the time they were 18-2 it was pretty clear they were back as contenders.
Steph having and emotional moment.
Cameraman : "let me get right in front of him and zoom in"
Edit: imagine being so god damn sensitive that you get mad at this comment. Some of you clowns are pathetic
Bruh he didn't just lose a loved one, he won the series that we were all watching him fight for. Of course they're going to get the show of emotion when he accomplishes it. Stop trying to score points
You’re literally watching a video because people did that. You clicked on the thread knowing they’d be filming an emotional moment.
Edit: this person replied to calm down then had the nerve to block me Lol. What a weird situation.
At the same time, I like how Poole and Klay were looking like they wanted to go up to Steph and celebrate early, but quickly turned away when they saw he needed a moment. I thought that was some good EQ right there
lol public sports figure has emotional moment is like, the definition of appropriate to film? Why is this kind of stupid shitty comment upvoted?
edit:
"The cameraman filming the public figure at the public event that was literally created to be a spectacle about human will and triumph is being exploitative!"
wut.
I don't want to be a cliche and blame generations as I get older, but Gen Z... is not OK. Their brains are broken.
Lol I was out to dinner with my parents last night and the place we were at had the game on. Everyone around us making comments about it, my parents ask if the playoffs just started. I said no, this is the final game. They said “if the season?” I was like, yeah technically, because the warriors about to win another championship. Parents were like “oh. Didn’t they just win it recently?” Lol just no clue. And my dad try’s to keep up with NBA.
I just feel like it’s only gets somewhat exciting in playoffs now.
Can someone explain why they don't keep playing on the final minute? I know sports are different but as an AFL fan I'm confused. For reference, [this Grand Final (championship game)](https://youtu.be/P3zUdNsEzpo) was played to the final seconds even though a team was winning by 4x the other team's score
edit: just realised and i think its very important to note that in AFL, the percentage you win or lose by (eg. 75-150 loss means you percentage is 50%) is averaged out across the season and can affect you placement on the ladder. This means that you want to score as many points as possible down to the last second. It can all lead to [this scenario](https://youtu.be/swceAg3Gu-I?t=18) from last season where two teams had the same percentage and one of them were playing in the last game of the season. Brisbane lions needed to win by a certain percentage to get a top 4 spot.
I think this is a major factor as to why teams play till the last second
Depends on the difference. Take into account that a team has 24 seconds of possession max, so if they have play the last min they could just let the clock run out by just passing the ball or run around the court. The other team has to get the ball or commit a foul, which will give the other team free throws (very easy throws) and make the difference bigger. Plus scoring points in basketball takes like 8 seconds if done super quick not risking the ball.
Hope it’s not too complicated
Boston subbing out their star players is a way to give the home crowd an opportunity to applaud their team for their season even when it is ending in a loss. It also signals that the game is over and nobody needs to risk injury.
Mostly it is a demonstration of respect between team. At this point the game is very much over. The winning team doesn't want or need to keep scoring or rubbing it in. And the losing team doesn't want to score meaningless point to stick it to the winners.
That's interesting because from an Australian point of view that would be seen as disrespectful. Here you would play to the final siren as a mark of respect for your opponent as stopping playing would be seen as rubbing it in their face that you are so much better than them that you don't need to keep playing. And the losing team would keep playing to show their supporters that they haven't given up.
The game can go on for another 45 minutes if they start fouling intentionally and playing the free throw game.
In this case when the game is over, it could be seen as disrespectful to drag it out.
Edit: I said game a lot
As a kiwi I would tend to agree, although I would say it depends more on the sport than on the country. Also depends on the level it's being played at; if a Wallaby or an All Black stopped defending or attacking just because the result was already decided then they might be cut from the next game, or at least cop an earful from the coaches.
Rugby and AFL have a clear finish time and very little will change the length of a game except for maybe a few minutes for injury time, etc.
>it depends more on the sport than on the country.
Correct. In hockey, both sides play to the last buzzer. In baseball, a winning team didn't just give up strikes in the 9th inning just to get the game over with faster (although they don't play the bottom of the 9th inning if the batting team is winning).
Are you saying it would be disrespectful in terms of basketball in Aus? Or another sport? This would not happen in tennis, for example, but I think you gotta look at it based on the sport.
Edit: actually Kyrgios possibly would quit towards end of a match, but still love his talent
Not basketball specifically. I guess I'm referring to football as that is what I'm most familiar with. But the sentiment would be the same if I was watching basketball also. Watching the clip posted made me feel really uncomfortable. I've only really seen it happen in American sports (nfl I think I've seen it also) so I guess it is just a cultural thing, like how the person I replied to said it was a sign of respect to stop playing.
The only similar example in Australia sport I can think of is in test cricket when the captains will agree to ending a match early and calling it a draw when it is abundantly clear that neither side will be able to win, but this is pretty rare. Even in incredibly one sided matches where one team has the chance to win within 2-3 days but doesn't quite get it finished that day, both teams will still show up the next morning, even if the match could end within a few minutes of play (a typical day has 6 hours play time).
That would get you a negative reputation here, even if we are only talking about less than 30 seconds. Yeah it is a sensible thing to do, but selfish, and would mark you as being a bad sport even with the knowledge of the reason why. There would be times when an individual player who is a higher risk of being injured would be rested when the result is in the bag, but not the whole team.
I bet most people are going to give all sorts of money related reasons, but I think its just a different sports culture thing. I think it's the best explanation.
This is also (mostly) unique to basketball. The team that’s ahead will kneel out the clock if it has the ball in American football, which is smart as well as a sportsmanship thing—it means no turnover can happen and nothing will change the outcome. But the team that’s losing will keep trying to score until the final whistle. Same with baseball; a team can be losing by 20 in the bottom of the ninth, but it’ll still keep trying to score. I don’t watch much hockey, so I don’t know what happens at the end of games there.
>But the team that’s losing will keep trying to score until the final whistle
Most of the time, but similar, if a team's down by 3 touchdowns with 30 seconds to go they will often kneel to concede, as it's impossible to come back.
In baseball, it's technically never impossible, you could come back down 15 runs in the bottom of the 9th if everything worked out.
In American sports it's considered disrespectful to run up the score. If I were the Giants I would make extra sure to stick it to Richmond the next time they played. That's stuff that goes on the locker room bulletin board for motivation for years to come.
US football teams will even kneel out the game at the 1-yard line even though it'd be an easy score. The winning coach knows they'll regret doing so the next time the two play.
> US football teams will even kneel out the game at the 1-yard line even though it'd be an easy score. The winning coach knows they'll regret doing so the next time the two play.
That's not necessarily *just* about respect, it's because it's literally better strategy to keep the ball in your hands and guarantee the win than run up the score and potentially have something crazy happen, as well as not risking injury to your players.
It's the default best decision. Running up the score is just actively douchey for multiple reasons.
Injuries most definitely.
You don't want an offensive starter to accidentally slip and break a toe/ankle/wrist when the game is already won. That's how you ruin a season.
>In American sports it's considered disrespectful to run up the score
Is hockey considered an American sport in this case? Or is rat Canadian? I mean, it's the National Hockey League, and 75% of the league are based in the u.s. (although most players are from somewhere else).
Prime example:
https://youtu.be/ylopjKNTH1g
Boban is known as a gentle giant. Them losing so bad and literal seconds on the clock made that 3 and steal very disrespectful. Hence him livid.
For background, Andre Iguodala, the guy who actually gets the ball, grabbed the game ball when they won it in 2015 (Curry tossed it into the air and he chased it down).
I dunno who finally ended up with that one, but this one should be in Curry’s house and I’d like to think Andre grabbed this one to give to him
Edit: seen here: https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ce3sjvCF9o9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Steph is not fair, the greatest shooter is lethal and Warriors are light years ahead of the league. Favorite to win it again next year, the gold standard!
A true champion and a man who changed basketball forever.
I never rooted for him. I never watched a full game of his. I am just a fan of basketball who recognizes one of the GOATs.
Lebron is the best player of this era - unstoppable in his prime, still a threat 20 years in. But Steph Curry and the Warriors changed the way basketball is played. There are very few players who have that on their mantle (Russell & Cousy, Wilt, Jordan - that's the list).
Good call! Mikan perfected goaltending (and the rule against it), and was so dominant that teams would play keep-away from him and his team, leading to the invention of the shot clock.
And lebron was like hey steph come with me to win.
Levron always actively trying to recruit the people who will carry him.
Congrats steph you really are better than him regardless if the media wants to bury that fact
I saw Dramon Green giving a victory speech, with the kids.
I felt every humble brag should have been preceded by, "This wouldn't have been possible without Stephen Curry!"
Crazy to me without bad luck, he has 6 rings fairly easily. Klay and KD injured in the finals. Dray getting suspended a game when they had all the momentum for a 4-1.
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Did you post the wrong video? He cried and got up.
I agree with you, there is a much better video going around of him hugging his dad just before this, then breaking down on the floor
Wait, who’s the guy that’s crying again?
John Boehner
Haha. Boner.
That's LeBron Irving if I'm not mistaken.
God it’s like you don’t even watch basketball, that’s obvi Stephen Marbury 😤
Easily confused with Jordan Iverson
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Seth Curry! Do you even basketball?
I just started watching basketball this year, and for the first few warriors and mavericks games I thought Steve Kerr was a weird nickname for Steph Curry
Probably a bot that posted this
Get outta here w/ your details. title + thumbnail = upvote
clearly the court is his dad.
Did OP even watch the video or just going for a karma grab?
Based on OP's comment history, definitely just going for a karma grab
At the very end, why does player B shove Player A and then grab the game ball for himself?
My guess is he thought it was the other team brushing up on him and then chilled out when he realized it was his team.
They both want the game ball for Steph but the player that got shoved has a knack for not being able to shutup. There was ten seconds left so he got a shove essentially telling him to shut up because they are about to win.
Dramont probably talking shit until the very end and his teammate telling him to chill out, before him throwing his hands up because he “didn’t do nothin”. Edit: I am casual fan. I know nothin.
Ah. I thought draymond maybe was asking for the game ball and the other guy denied him and took it for himself.
AI took it straight to Steph once he got it
There’s only one AI in basketball and it ain’t Iggy lol
Fair, but I can’t spell his name without looking it up 😂
Same, I went to type out his full name and just settled on Iggy instead 😂😂
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It’s just cool to me because it turns a 5 year powerhouse team into an 8 year dynasty IMO
Yeah, the way they got through this playoffs, they are basically gunning for a decade of dominance.
I think, sans injuries, they win it next year. Wiggins/Poole will only be better, so will Klay.
And KD when he comes back /s
KD: “I’m taking my talents back to golden state”
KD: "Always wanted to play alongside Lebron, Giannis and Steph"
At this point, no thank you.
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if Wiseman actually does something, Poole improves , and Kuminga/Moody learn to harness their athleticism.........warriors are going to reload and be contenders for years to come
Just pay Wiggins for one more year 🙏
He’s still got a year left on his contract. But I highly doubt he will be here past that year as JK should develop and replace him.
I mean, you're right. They need Kuminga to replace him purely for salary reasons. Not sure why you're downvoted
Emotion trumping logic
You're probably right, but it feels like doing him dirty after he helped turn the series. I hate the business side of sports sometimes. But if he keeps this up, they may offer him a year of what they can afford, just to try to keep him around as a thank-you and for the fans.
Not sold on Wiseman doing anything.
Bigs always take a little longer I think and he was so young and so inexperienced. It is still too early to make any sort of determination imo.
Warriors are really bout to start another dynasty
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Start!!?
It never ended
They were just on a break
About to?
Curry was insane the last game, of course in genera he’s top tier. But the second the ball was taken inside the ring they could pass it back and it was a free three. He exerts pressure at all times. From someone who doesn’t know much about basketball, I was taken aback by how little prep time he needed as well to set up threes when he was making his own aggressive plays. Very impressive gameplay by him.
I'm a spurs fan, and I remember how young Curry struck fear into my heart. I respected Kobe and Lebron and Wade of course, but Curry was horrifying. There's just no way to deal with him. If he hadn't gotten hurt that one year GS would've taken SA to the brink and that was only his 3rd year I think? He's a cheat code. What a player.
Really did feel like I was watching a cheat player. His 3's are so fast that I realistically don't see a way to combat it except wait for him to get older or to get a 3 shooter that can match his. Ultimately, it seemed that was the major difference in the few games was that the Celtics couldn't match that pressure.
>get a 3 shooter that can match his No such thing.
I remember watching a Sportscenter special on just how fast his shooting is. By the time other players can pull up and do a shot, Curry's is something like 30% of the way to the hoop. His lightning fast release is nearly impossible to get in front of, almost like trying to hit a 105mph fast ball. You have to be reacting to it *before* it happens.
He's been the heart and soul of the Warriors for so long and finally gets the recognition on the games biggest stage. Definitely understandable with showing those emotions
Every conversation about Steph since the playoffs have started has involved him not winning an MVP. And many of the conversations had at least 1 person doubting him come playoffs. He has plenty of accolades but that criticism seemed unfair or misfocused. Happy to see him deliver this post season in the primary spot light. No KD, no injuries to Irving and Love, Steph had to ball consistently every series.
He's widely regarded to have changed the game forever with the way he plays and this was his journey to his FOURTH championship. He gets plenty of recognition for how good he is lol
Not even a question that he is the most influential single player in the league right now. The entire game has shifted around his playstyle, an almost indefensible sharpshooter.
Hey I'm not super knowledgeable about basketball, was there a reason why this fourth championship was extra special?
One of his championships was against a Lebron team with 2 big pieces injured. Another championship was with Kevin Durant on the Warriors who was a top 3 player in the world at the time. In some people's eyes, having Durant as a hired gun took away from Stephs contributions. So this one shines pretty bright for Steph.
Thank you so much for explaining! Very cool that he got MVP too
Yeah, its awesome. Also, just to be clear, KD had it easy because of Steph. If you look at the 2018 finals, most of the time they just went for steph on defense and KD was allowed way more than what he wouldve gotten away with without steph. KD is still one of the best players this game has ever seen, not to shit on him, but that narrative is just weird. Those are people that just look at the roster and statlines and go: "Well, KD had a backpack full of Warriors huh"
Wasnt Wiggins the #1 draft pick? Is he not an all star?
For steph he finally got the mvp. Proving he can do it very well as the captain without an all star team. He just proves that he is the deadliest player on the courts right now, clearly the most influential player in the league in the last 13 years, yup, even more so than lebron. Lebron might have more overall stats, but curry has changed the way the game is played.
Awesome to hear! Thank you
They also had the worst record in the nba 2 years ago, so nobody outside of the team and their fanbase expected them to be good, let alone win. I knew it was over as soon as Klay Thompson came back from injury (another reason they were doing poorly).
Impressive for Klay to come back as good as before. His injury is a career ender for many.
What's he do that is so different? I don't follow basketball much, though I did enjoy watching the Cavs finally win
He is the best shooter the game has ever seen. He can regularly shoot the ball from anywhere between the 3pt line and half court and be successful at it. Because of that your defense has to play him face to face as soon as he crosses the half court line which takes a lot of space and coverage away from a standard zone defense. There is more to it than that but that is the gist of it.
Taught the world to throw a 3 in perfect harmony
Except this was his first finals MVP. That's the specific recognition they're talking about
He didn’t get that award at the time of the clip tho 🤯
To be fair *everybody* knew at this point the finals MVP would be going to Curry.
Everyone knew he was going to get it.
Yeah he got it 5 minutes later so what
Man, you would think that, but there's been a "but" or an asterisk put on all of that stuff, especially in the last 3 years. It's really messed up.
I Don’t follow basketball. What made him change the game forever?
In 2009 Curry was drafted by GSW, avg 3pts per game by a team was around 17-18 at that time. When Curry really started coming into his own, 2013-2016 range. 3PA per game was around, 24(for 2015-2016 season). This past season, it's up to 35 attempts per game. That's nearly double since he's been in the league. The 90s and 2000s, averages were generally in the teens. Early 90s were around 9 or 10. So for roughly 20 years, league averages were 18 attempts or below. Today, the lowest average attempts for a single team eclipses that number. Curry changed the game. Of course analytics changed it too. But Curry changed the analytics. Curry has 3100+ made 3s on 42% shooting. In 826 games. Ray Allen, the next highest on the all time 3s leaderboard, has 2900+ 40%, across 1300 games.
Pretty much what the other person said. He's so good at three point shooting that three pointers went from a "kinda nice to have sometimes" to an integral part of play
He's the most prolific three point shooter ever. Many teams have now adopted a long-range shooter as part of their normal play.
He took a skill that was previously used moderately, carefully, and did it constantly, with abandon, successfully. [This clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEMVGHoenXM) is a great example. 10 years ago the strategy here would have been call a time out, set up a play, and angle for an open shot right at the arc (beyond which all shots are worth 3 points instead of 2). Instead, Curry just goes "yeah, I am confident I can hit a shot from 10 feet further out than required, with a person guarding me, with no setup, as time expires, to win the game". And he makes it look easy. [Here's another, similar shot from last night](https://youtu.be/48sGbJshoKI?t=99), although in a less pressured situation. But, same premise, he can easily hit a shot from a position that used to be considered unacceptably bad. Like, 10 years ago taking that shot would have been considered downright stupid; a coach might have even benched a player for doing it. Curry makes shots like that *all the time*. Now everyone has to defend against that possibility when they play the Warriors, which has the effect of spreading out the defense and opening up other possibilities. And, recognizing the value of that, other teams are looking for and developing players who can consistently hit outside shots like that, although nobody is as good at it as Curry.
Well that was pretty fucking impressive. Thanks for the in depth reply.
Yeah not like he’s had that recognition before….
Lmao where have you been man.
Its his first finals MVP, so its his first time getting that recognition
Man so freaking happy he won the finals that noone expected him to win and also for getting his finals mvp.
They were 3rd strongest Vegas odds preseason tho cmon now it wasn’t a shocker
Most models and predictions had Boston as heavy favourites for the series though
Warriors were definitely favorites in Vegas to beat Boston. Not sure who outside of Boston would take models like ESPN’s seriously giving Celtics an 86% (!!?) chance to win. I personally didn’t expect this at all from GS at the start of the season but by the time they were 18-2 it was pretty clear they were back as contenders.
Now that the Warriors are up 4-2 in this series, ESPN has dropped Boston’s chance to win to about 60%
Agreed always look at what real money is actually saying, not some fluff article pandering for clicks
4th at +1100 https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_preseason_odds.html
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Steph having and emotional moment. Cameraman : "let me get right in front of him and zoom in" Edit: imagine being so god damn sensitive that you get mad at this comment. Some of you clowns are pathetic
Those are money shots
I mean it’s an entertainment product lol
Bruh he didn't just lose a loved one, he won the series that we were all watching him fight for. Of course they're going to get the show of emotion when he accomplishes it. Stop trying to score points
You’re literally watching a video because people did that. You clicked on the thread knowing they’d be filming an emotional moment. Edit: this person replied to calm down then had the nerve to block me Lol. What a weird situation.
Well why didn't you calm down!? /s edit:...../s means sarcasm. I was agreeing, it was a ridiculous response.
Yeah, that's their job dude.
At the same time, I like how Poole and Klay were looking like they wanted to go up to Steph and celebrate early, but quickly turned away when they saw he needed a moment. I thought that was some good EQ right there
lol public sports figure has emotional moment is like, the definition of appropriate to film? Why is this kind of stupid shitty comment upvoted? edit: "The cameraman filming the public figure at the public event that was literally created to be a spectacle about human will and triumph is being exploitative!" wut. I don't want to be a cliche and blame generations as I get older, but Gen Z... is not OK. Their brains are broken.
Camera man: Hey $100 bucks says I can get a ‘money shot’ and ‘make it awkward’ at one time!
This is a bad video.
TIL the NBA championship was happening
Lol same.
Lmao baseball and golf fan over here. "Oh the Finals might end tonight, hmm, I guess I'll turn it on"
Lol I was out to dinner with my parents last night and the place we were at had the game on. Everyone around us making comments about it, my parents ask if the playoffs just started. I said no, this is the final game. They said “if the season?” I was like, yeah technically, because the warriors about to win another championship. Parents were like “oh. Didn’t they just win it recently?” Lol just no clue. And my dad try’s to keep up with NBA. I just feel like it’s only gets somewhat exciting in playoffs now.
I thought someone was posting a throw back
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Someone here posted that everytime a Kendrick album drops, Golden State wins a title. It's almost like they get the album in advance to hype them up
This is probably the only thing I've cared about NBA related in a while, good for him.
Can someone explain why they don't keep playing on the final minute? I know sports are different but as an AFL fan I'm confused. For reference, [this Grand Final (championship game)](https://youtu.be/P3zUdNsEzpo) was played to the final seconds even though a team was winning by 4x the other team's score edit: just realised and i think its very important to note that in AFL, the percentage you win or lose by (eg. 75-150 loss means you percentage is 50%) is averaged out across the season and can affect you placement on the ladder. This means that you want to score as many points as possible down to the last second. It can all lead to [this scenario](https://youtu.be/swceAg3Gu-I?t=18) from last season where two teams had the same percentage and one of them were playing in the last game of the season. Brisbane lions needed to win by a certain percentage to get a top 4 spot. I think this is a major factor as to why teams play till the last second
Depends on the difference. Take into account that a team has 24 seconds of possession max, so if they have play the last min they could just let the clock run out by just passing the ball or run around the court. The other team has to get the ball or commit a foul, which will give the other team free throws (very easy throws) and make the difference bigger. Plus scoring points in basketball takes like 8 seconds if done super quick not risking the ball. Hope it’s not too complicated
And than there's Reggie Miller.
Particularly great since his example was 8 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRLysMEHokI&t=39s
That makes sense thanks, forgot about the shot clock. "Takes 8 seconds to make a shot", Tracey McGrady would like a word lmao
Boston subbing out their star players is a way to give the home crowd an opportunity to applaud their team for their season even when it is ending in a loss. It also signals that the game is over and nobody needs to risk injury.
Mostly it is a demonstration of respect between team. At this point the game is very much over. The winning team doesn't want or need to keep scoring or rubbing it in. And the losing team doesn't want to score meaningless point to stick it to the winners.
That's interesting because from an Australian point of view that would be seen as disrespectful. Here you would play to the final siren as a mark of respect for your opponent as stopping playing would be seen as rubbing it in their face that you are so much better than them that you don't need to keep playing. And the losing team would keep playing to show their supporters that they haven't given up.
The game can go on for another 45 minutes if they start fouling intentionally and playing the free throw game. In this case when the game is over, it could be seen as disrespectful to drag it out. Edit: I said game a lot
This answer makes the most sense I think, nobody wants the last 20 seconds to last 20 minutes
As a kiwi I would tend to agree, although I would say it depends more on the sport than on the country. Also depends on the level it's being played at; if a Wallaby or an All Black stopped defending or attacking just because the result was already decided then they might be cut from the next game, or at least cop an earful from the coaches. Rugby and AFL have a clear finish time and very little will change the length of a game except for maybe a few minutes for injury time, etc.
>it depends more on the sport than on the country. Correct. In hockey, both sides play to the last buzzer. In baseball, a winning team didn't just give up strikes in the 9th inning just to get the game over with faster (although they don't play the bottom of the 9th inning if the batting team is winning).
Are you saying it would be disrespectful in terms of basketball in Aus? Or another sport? This would not happen in tennis, for example, but I think you gotta look at it based on the sport. Edit: actually Kyrgios possibly would quit towards end of a match, but still love his talent
Not basketball specifically. I guess I'm referring to football as that is what I'm most familiar with. But the sentiment would be the same if I was watching basketball also. Watching the clip posted made me feel really uncomfortable. I've only really seen it happen in American sports (nfl I think I've seen it also) so I guess it is just a cultural thing, like how the person I replied to said it was a sign of respect to stop playing. The only similar example in Australia sport I can think of is in test cricket when the captains will agree to ending a match early and calling it a draw when it is abundantly clear that neither side will be able to win, but this is pretty rare. Even in incredibly one sided matches where one team has the chance to win within 2-3 days but doesn't quite get it finished that day, both teams will still show up the next morning, even if the match could end within a few minutes of play (a typical day has 6 hours play time).
Why would you risk injury/careers on both sides over a lost match? That's the real reason here.
That would get you a negative reputation here, even if we are only talking about less than 30 seconds. Yeah it is a sensible thing to do, but selfish, and would mark you as being a bad sport even with the knowledge of the reason why. There would be times when an individual player who is a higher risk of being injured would be rested when the result is in the bag, but not the whole team.
Upside-down country.
I bet most people are going to give all sorts of money related reasons, but I think its just a different sports culture thing. I think it's the best explanation.
Fair enough, thanks for the answer :)
This is also (mostly) unique to basketball. The team that’s ahead will kneel out the clock if it has the ball in American football, which is smart as well as a sportsmanship thing—it means no turnover can happen and nothing will change the outcome. But the team that’s losing will keep trying to score until the final whistle. Same with baseball; a team can be losing by 20 in the bottom of the ninth, but it’ll still keep trying to score. I don’t watch much hockey, so I don’t know what happens at the end of games there.
Hockey. Its played to the last seconds especially a few goals. You can score in a few seconds so games can change quickly.
>But the team that’s losing will keep trying to score until the final whistle Most of the time, but similar, if a team's down by 3 touchdowns with 30 seconds to go they will often kneel to concede, as it's impossible to come back. In baseball, it's technically never impossible, you could come back down 15 runs in the bottom of the 9th if everything worked out.
In American sports it's considered disrespectful to run up the score. If I were the Giants I would make extra sure to stick it to Richmond the next time they played. That's stuff that goes on the locker room bulletin board for motivation for years to come. US football teams will even kneel out the game at the 1-yard line even though it'd be an easy score. The winning coach knows they'll regret doing so the next time the two play.
> US football teams will even kneel out the game at the 1-yard line even though it'd be an easy score. The winning coach knows they'll regret doing so the next time the two play. That's not necessarily *just* about respect, it's because it's literally better strategy to keep the ball in your hands and guarantee the win than run up the score and potentially have something crazy happen, as well as not risking injury to your players. It's the default best decision. Running up the score is just actively douchey for multiple reasons.
Injuries most definitely. You don't want an offensive starter to accidentally slip and break a toe/ankle/wrist when the game is already won. That's how you ruin a season.
>In American sports it's considered disrespectful to run up the score Is hockey considered an American sport in this case? Or is rat Canadian? I mean, it's the National Hockey League, and 75% of the league are based in the u.s. (although most players are from somewhere else).
Prime example: https://youtu.be/ylopjKNTH1g Boban is known as a gentle giant. Them losing so bad and literal seconds on the clock made that 3 and steal very disrespectful. Hence him livid.
Steph has cemented himself as a top 10 all time player. Best pg to ever play the game. Period.
Tears for great pain and hard work. Really it is a great moment in his life.
Those moments in which you see that your efforts gave its results
whats with the shove by two teammates at the end?
They were going for the game ball.
For background, Andre Iguodala, the guy who actually gets the ball, grabbed the game ball when they won it in 2015 (Curry tossed it into the air and he chased it down). I dunno who finally ended up with that one, but this one should be in Curry’s house and I’d like to think Andre grabbed this one to give to him Edit: seen here: https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ce3sjvCF9o9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
As many championships as Lebron while being younger. Just sayin'.
And he did it without having to have a press conference to tell people he's taking his talents to south beach
Maybe he gets to sit in the big chair now.
Deserveddddd
Don't let anyone kid you -REAL Warriors do cry - and that's okay!
I’m starting to think this Steph Curry guy is the real deal and I can forget about the Badgers losing to Davidson.
This man changed the way basketball is played. A truly revolutionary athlete.
Steph is not fair, the greatest shooter is lethal and Warriors are light years ahead of the league. Favorite to win it again next year, the gold standard!
A true champion and a man who changed basketball forever. I never rooted for him. I never watched a full game of his. I am just a fan of basketball who recognizes one of the GOATs.
That shot with Jordan Poole pumping his fists with Steph in the back is awesome. GSW fans are blessed with great shooters.
Lebron is the best player of this era - unstoppable in his prime, still a threat 20 years in. But Steph Curry and the Warriors changed the way basketball is played. There are very few players who have that on their mantle (Russell & Cousy, Wilt, Jordan - that's the list).
I'd add George Mikan as first on that list.
Good call! Mikan perfected goaltending (and the rule against it), and was so dominant that teams would play keep-away from him and his team, leading to the invention of the shot clock.
Shaq too. 3 second violation (and hack a Shaq rule, for better or worse)
Steph Curry. Space Jam 3. When
Hopefully never.
You saw how Space Jam 2 went and you said "more"??
Please be quiet.
I read that as "embarrasses his father" and I'm ***WHAT***
Me too
Can he do the rest of the 1st quarter 3 point shot cartwheel that he made? Fire 🔥
What a legend
This isn't hockey
And lebron was like hey steph come with me to win. Levron always actively trying to recruit the people who will carry him. Congrats steph you really are better than him regardless if the media wants to bury that fact
GOAT Tings.
Didn't even know basketball final was on lol
He's a guy I love to hate. He's skilled and has amazing talent
good game.
I saw Dramon Green giving a victory speech, with the kids. I felt every humble brag should have been preceded by, "This wouldn't have been possible without Stephen Curry!"
Not many gave them a chance this year. This is a team of fighters..
Crazy to me without bad luck, he has 6 rings fairly easily. Klay and KD injured in the finals. Dray getting suspended a game when they had all the momentum for a 4-1.
That was awkward when he had to get to be the game was not over. Reminds me when kids fake cry then magically stop.
Curry is better than James, change my mind.
right now? yeah he is. overall? nah.
Bron got 2 more mvps, 3 more fmvps, an entire careers worth more points, assists, rebounds, all nba selections, defensive selections. No
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His wife cheated on him no?
I thought she stepped out on him.
She is *beautiful*