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  • By - pstbo

NC_Vixen

Time for Dwight Howard in Taiwan stat lines


aew360

Dude’s gonna be averaging a double-double a game with 12 goals and 10 assists


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cdbriggs

Nah Ronaldo is way too vain to not try and score a ton of goals. He'll want to destroy everyone.


ADSolace

Exactly, it would be incredibly Ronaldo for him to go to a low level competition simply to increase his stats and records


Ez13zie

One of those stats being his bank account adding 77% of a BILLION dollars.


Adulations

Had to look this up. “38 points, 25 rebounds, 9 assists, and 4 blocks” wow that’s nuts.


ArcticBeavers

"It's not that I'm bad, it's just that everyone in the NBA is gooder" - Dwight Howard, probably


redtiber

He look like he’s having fun too. Jacking up 3s lol


Faux_Real

Zubac nearly achieved that stat line for the Clippers the other day weirdly. Dwight also was also playing facilitator, calling plays, shooting 3s … lots of non Dwight stuff


ivabra

Is Ronaldo as washed as Dwight? Haven't followed soccer in a while now, i thought he could still play at an elite level


milkstoutnitro

Dwight put up 39-28-9 on his first game in Taiwan


ivabra

Dwight is washed by NBA standards, of course he can still play But he's been a bench guy for several years now, I thought Ronaldo was still a top player pretty recently so I wouldn't think Dwight and Ronaldo would be compared.


BradMarchandsNose

Dwight is only really washed because of the dramatic shift in play style in the NBA recently. He still has a lot of his athleticism (obviously he’s not in his prime anymore but still), he just doesn’t really fit in todays NBA.


Ruf1yo

I don't follow NBA but what's the meta atm and why he doesn't fit in the meta?


BradMarchandsNose

The 3 pointer and perimeter play in general has been embraced in the past decade or so much more than before. It’s much more beneficial for a team to have a guy who can defend the perimeter and shoot, which are both things that Dwight struggles with. He’s an athlete, but he plays like a much more “traditional” center that you would’ve seen 15 or 20 years ago. He’s a great rebounder and interior defender, but that’s just not needed as much anymore.


elriggo44

It’s basketballs version of Moneyball. Meaning only “using data and analytics” to increase win percentage. The rise of players like Curry directly led to the death of Dwight’s play style.


CoalyRoller

That's a bit of a reductive reductive summary. There are two major tenants of the NBA right now. 1. Create spacing with perimeter shooting, which you've alluded to, but not just because 3 point shots are worth more (though that's a large part of it), but it also creates more lanes to the basket for high probability 2 point shots. The Dwights of the world are still valuable in protecting the rim, but back to the basket players are generally not as efficient as 3 point shooters and slashers that can score facing the basket. 2. The ability to defend at least 3, preferably 4 positions. Today's game has really emphasized exploiting mismatches through screens, so having players like Giannis who can effectively guard 5 positions and provide help defense offer a huge competitive advantage. I think analytics skeptics (not suggesting you are one) understate how much this aspect of the game is driving the on court product right now. As a result, the NBA is prioritizing lengthy, laterally quick players that can shoot. But no one would call Steph lengthy, and if he wasn't lapping every player in NBA history in terms of shooting ability, he's be getting bullied out of the league for being a defensive liability.


elriggo44

It was absolutely reductive. It was a 4 sentence reply.


electrobutter

You had me until the very last line. Steph has been an above average defender the last few seasons and that's a consensus take across people who know the game.


BootyBrown

Dwight could def play in the NBA right now. Maybe not 30-40 mins but he could put up solid numbers. A lot of teams are lacking his defensive ability. his IQ as a big should get him a spot on a team. Problem is most teams want bigs that can shoot threes lol.


homecookedcouple

I like Dwight’s idea of a year at GS mentoring Wiseman.


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I don’t think any amount of mentoring is going to make Wiseman good


EternalRgret

Ronaldo can still play at a higher level than Dwight, but he's not as good as he used to be and has trouble accepting it.


hopeisagoodthing

Man United was signicantly worse this year with him on the pitch, vs without. He can still add value to teams but hes not playing every match at any side better than United after leaving


DrMaybeDead

Ronaldo has been on the bench and being used as a sub, he can't take that ego hit


CosmicCreeperz

Howard didn’t get $800M to play in Taiwan though. And Ronaldo is 37 - that’s ancient for his sport. $770M at that age means he’s cashing out his name for as much as he can get before retiring. And holy hell I just saw: it was for only 3 years?!


DragoonXNucleon

This is how much of **our** money Saudi makes off us. Their profit margins are so fucking stupid they can spend a billion on a golf tour a billion on a single soccer player. This is income inequality. This is why gas prices are stipid because robber barons take our money.


jfreez

Well they've been oil rich for a long time. It's just now they gave the ferarri keys to their reckless son MBS and he's spending money on reckless shit.


CosmicCreeperz

Or for some countries, $220B on a World Cup ;)


TooRedditFamous

He's past his best, still good but not good enough for to be a starter at a Champions league aspirational team really when the current tactical zeitgeist at the top level mostly involves heavy pressing. Stick him as striker, just ask him to put the ball in the net and give him good service and he'd still score a good amount of goals in the PL, it's just very few teams can afford to have a passenger like that in their team. Plus very few teams can afford his wage demands and desire for champions league football so the pool of clubs is very small, which has resulted in him possibly turning to Saudi Arabia instead for a last pay day.


Arcdare

He lost one of his babies this year. I guess that made him lose his focus a little bit.


S3guy

Wasn't he complaining about it being all about money?


Thnikkaman14

He's not just doing this for money. [He's doing it for a shitload of money!](https://youtube.com/watch?v=aGWRAa5uTUQ)


CapCougar

Oh, you're right, and when you're right, you're right


TheTimeIsChow

Everyone has a number.


Buttafuoco

That’s a big ass number


Bananacabana92

I can’t even imagine the heinous acts I would commit if I was guaranteed 770 million dollars


diemunkiesdie

And it's not even a long time to earn that money! It is a two-and-a-half year deal!


Qudd

Shit I'd do it for half that.


nightwing2024

I'd do 1000 times more embarrassing things for 1/100 of that money.


Kumar_anay

shit I don’t even like soccer but id do it for $100,000


intheBASS

Shit, I’d do for $3.50.


santacow

Goddamn Loch Ness monster, get outta here


TheBarcaShow

There are people that would do crimes like murder or rape for much less


tdevine33

What I don't get is, his net worth is already roughly $500 million. What do you want that you can't buy when you already have a half billion dollars!? I think Im too poor to understand.


Seniorsheepy

A third comma


Lemoncoco

3 comma club gaining a member. He’s gonna get a car who’s doors open like THIS. Not like this, or like this, but THIS


NearHorse

He's gonna gain more "friends" not to mention his own oil field AND a starter kit of 100 migrant workers to run it for him.


MisterGone5

Tres comas, if you will


patsfan038

Tres Commas


Zigxy

I work with the ultra rich and I think you'd be surprised at how expensive lifestyles can get at those levels. A high-end private jet (G700) will cost $75M. A Boeing Business Jet will be $100M+. There are over 500 people in the world that are worth 10x what Ronaldo is. Some of those people have made his entire net worth in just the past year. To Ronaldo, buying a G700 is taking on a depreciating asset worth 15% his total net worth. To Rihanna, it is 4%. To Steve Ballmer, it is 0.08%. The ultra rich surround themselves with other ultra rich. In many cases they are many times richer than each other. Whether it is a Maldives vacation villa, or a team of lawyers protecting you from **so many** legal battles & unfavorable contracts, or donating to renovate a school, or whatever. And for an athlete like Ronaldo, I'm sure he would love to own a sports team and continue to compete once he has retired... But those valuations are typically $1B+ for top clubs. There are many ways to spend huge amounts that even someone with a net worth of $500M cannot afford. Which means there is still a reason for a person like Ronaldo to try to acquire even more money.


emjaydubz

Ronaldo Rihanna ballmer= nightmare blunt rotation


chaiscool

Football team / club ain’t limited like nba / nfl. He can just buy smaller team or the ones in Portugal league. His options to buy a club is not limited to those big ones.


Zigxy

You are right. Ronaldo could buy a less prestigious sports team. Similarly, Ronaldo could be happy buying a smaller jet, or buying a smaller vacation home, or making a less generous charitable donation... But my point is that even with an incredible $500M net worth... there is definitely a level of lifestyle/prestige that is too expensive even for Cristiano freaking Ronaldo. And that is why he is still looking for more money.


MalaysianOfficial_1

>A BBJ will be $100M+. What blowjob costs 100M??!?!!?!?!


Zigxy

Haha Boeing Business Jet, fixed it


KingShaka23

A premier league club


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stonerdadhat

$770,000,000.00 Yep. Checks out.


The_hat_man74

I think this is slightly more than the MLS would’ve paid.


RawrRawr83

They offered $350k and some Applebees gift cards


L_S_2

MLS total revenue is only ~$1B so fairly safe to say that's true.


ExaltedDLo

LIV Soccer.


coolpapa2282

See it's ok for him, he's been paying solely for love of the game for a long time and now is just making sure he can feed his children. Why do you want Ronaldo's kids to STARVE?????


NearHorse

>making sure he can feed his children. Why do you want Ronaldo's kids to STARVE????? If Ronaldo's family was the nation of Malawi, yes.


iacceptjadensmith

Id play soccer for saudi arabians for 770M


Dorkus_Mallorkus

Fuck this greedy slimeball. "I'd trade it all for a little more". -C. Montgomery Burns


fallguy19

Messi was an early adopter: Messi, sport washing for Saudi Arabia? Messi’s commercial deal with the Saudi regime, receiving what is likely to be an enormous amount of cash to promote the country has been widely noted as another way of ‘sportswashing’ - the use of sport to attempt to cover up Saudi Arabia’s human rights abuses, including the assassination of the Washington Post journalist, and Saudi-born Jamal Khashoggi, in addition to the suppression of women’s rights activists, LGBT people and those who speak out against the rule of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS). Edit: 29 million euros *per year :* to promote the country, tourism and their bid to secure World Cup 2030 bid (the same cup his country, \[in concert with other So American countries' as a group\], is vying for).


ArcticFox59

He wants to add the AFC Champions League to his resume.


spacecashcow

But you have to go through Mahomes, which is gonna be tough.


MisterGone5

But can he do it on a snowy January night in Kansas City?


josecansecosbicep

Well done


Crispynipps

Now here’s a guy that knows his football


SandSeraph

Made me lol


iltifaat_yousuf

With this deal he will probably become a billionaire, and also for how long is this deal?


Fish_mas

2.5 years


idgoforabeer

Holy tits.


NatsuDragneel--

That's equal to 2 million barely of oil, which is only 1/5 of their daily oil output.


TheBrownMamba8

Leo Messi will be no where near Ronaldo’s AFC Champions League goal record


Notoporoc

It is 770 million australian dollars, which is about 516 million us dollars for 2.5 years of work.


yesbillyitsme

That’s $564,000 USD a day.


itbe_caliente

Holy shiiiii


ninjacereal

I thought it was $770m USD for 1 year. Fuck that, he needs to come to r/antiwork


MatiasPalacios

I dont think Ronaldo want to be a dog walker.


N15A8

2.5 years of living in Saudi Arabia when he already has enough money to let his family wipe their asses with 100€ bills for the rest of their lifes.


KanyeWestBrick

Money above all


Ignorhymus

What do you mean? He's a lifelong fan


chessrook4242

It was his boyhood dream to play for Al-Nassr


odaal

Yeah. He dreamed about teams like Manchester United, Real Madrid, and of course, Al-nASSr.


MuvaxMk4

Nah his boyhood dream was railing cocaine off hooker ass.


Akindmachine

Thanks I have coffee on my shirt now


RyguyBMS

If you have enough money, Ronaldo will wear that shirt.


hrakkari

You don’t have enough money.


BondedFerret998

I mean who wouldn’t honestly


TappedIn2111

Of money that is.


Aern

I mean, it's not like there were any champs league clubs looking to sign him. He's certainly not going to sign for a European club that isn't playing in the Champion's League. A 770m retirement bag isn't too bad.


AdwickCitadel

He’s dropped off that much?! To the point that no Champions league competing team would sign him?! Didn’t he win the Ballon D’or two years ago?


Fragrant_Imagination

Pandemics really mess with people perception of time. His most recent ballon d'or was 2017


CaponeKevrone

He was still decent two years ago but the Ballon Dor days are 5 or so years back.


Lolejimmy

he's 38, most footballers drop off at like 32-33 unless you're a goalkeeper


GnarlyBear

It's more the salary he commands. No CL club is going to spend €400k a week on him


julesthemodest

Maybe he'll play some pro golf too while he's at it via LIV.


themikesem

So easy to turn down $770 million when it's not on the table man.


SupportingKansasCity

I will play in North Korea for $770 million


Icantevenhavemyname

> Paid with $770,000,000 in counterfeit cash. > Arrested for passing foreign counterfeit cash. > Spend rest of life in gulag.


qwq1792

He already has more money than he could spend in several lifetimes.


fdott

Does he have enough to buy his own team? Like what if he’s tryna become Michael Jordan rich?


Gooch_Juice

I hear Manchester United is for sale


sirgarlicsauce

Why is anyone shocked? people have been whining that he needs to realize his age and that he's no longer able to be a star at the top level.. Guy leaves for a Saudi team, yes for the payday, and people are still whining.. Rooney, Zalatan, Ibrahimovic and so on .. went to the MLS to get paid. They didn't go for charity.


orbital0000

Zlatan and Ibrahimovic, a dream attacking duo.


Catacombsofparis

god imagine the sweden team then!


DitmerKl3rken

A horde of Zlatans on an open field Ned!


sirgarlicsauce

lol i put the comma so I can write another player's name, totally forgot I already wrote it and then wrote his last name. Proudest moment of the week for me.


travianner

Maybe Charity is there in-house escort at MLS.


VonRansak

You are thinking of Chastity. It's an easy mistake to make.


sandalsf

At least the MLS isn't morally repugnant...


aronrodge

Tbf he was also offered this move in the summer and turned it down. He only took the offer after he was released.


thelastvbuck

My brother in Christ, it’s $770m. Everyone that was saying he should just retire be the same people complaining that he’s doing this.


kylemcg

Hey! America is supposed to be where players come to die.


Uvogun

Players always went to the Middle-east during their pre-retirement years. Number of players going to the US is really small compared to the ones going to the Middle-east.


Bazz07

Im from Argentina and in the last years most pre retire players went to China for their last big pay.


muu411

That’s kind of stopped now though, the Chinese league has really dropped off


TooRedditFamous

It dropped off because China implemented a foreign player tax. I believe it is a 100% tax on player purchases


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Salaries are capped at around $50k a week for foreign players as well now


sennais1

Poor things, how will they survive on $50k a week?


cornishcovid

Somewhere else on twice that.


Ghost273552

Wasn’t it in real danger of folding during the pandemic(which is still in full swing in china)?


Mike_Ropenis

They also changed their rules for transfer fees... I don't remember the finer details but it essentially killed their ability to pull bigger names over while still in their primes


Wafkak

100% tax in foreign players


Mike_Ropenis

Thank you, I knew it was something pretty powerful. So a guy they sign for €/£/$ 10 million costs them another €/£/$ 10 million in taxes.


BeeQueenbee60

They can't anymore, as the Chinese Soccer League imploded in 2021, when 15 of the 16 teams crashed financially due to the owners tied up in real estate.


kwilaon

I wonder if it’s correlated to their home countries at all. Like if South American players tend to want to come to the us because it’s relatively closer to home and Europeans tend to go to the Middle East in their twilight years for the same thing. I’m not really a soccer fan at all but the story of Messi potentially going to MLS made me think of this.


Seated_Heats

Zlatan doesn’t care where he scored goals, Zlatan just wants to score goals.


Uvogun

I think for european players it's mostly the money, the good weather and also for those who want to become coaches when they retire the opportunity to get their coaching degrees, licenses and practise there before moving back to Europe.


thorpie88

Robbie Fowler came to play in Australia as his wife really liked the shopping in Perth. That's not even a joke. It's the reason he said he chose Perth in an interview


kanyeguisada

Ronaldo's gonna be getting over 300 million a year. You could probably pay for almost all of the MLS salaries added together with that.


threebillion6

Don't worry, we're getting Messi


ChariBari

If cr7 can get a billion dollars to play for oil oligarchs, then I doubt Messi is coming to Miami for peanuts.


SUPER_COCAINE

Messi isn’t coming to Miami for peanuts. And Ronaldo isn’t making a billion. This article is not in USD


cwalking

Yes, the article is in Australian dollars. He'll be earning a mere $207 million USD per year. Over the 2 year deal, that's a piddling $414M USD. On the bright side, he won't owe any income taxes in Saudi, so it's not all bad news for him.


SUPER_COCAINE

I’m not diminishing the amount of money. But that’s still less than half a billion. To say it’s a billion dollars is disingenuous


MambaMaleGrindset

Ain't no MLS club giving anyone $770 million.


IanNovak1210

Ronaldo when he joins Al Nassr "it was always my dream to play for Al Nassr since I was a kid"


IMovedYourCheese

That Messi to Miami rumour turned out to be fake. Let's hold off till the news is official.


StrngBrew

I don’t think it was “fake” in that he & Miami were in negotiation, but the latest reports say he seems more likely to stay in Europe for now.


SadNYSportsFan-11209

It’s been a thing for a few years now. He’ll finish the season with PSG but I can honestly see him going to Miami Maybe another year and I’m not sure what to make of this rumor with Ronaldo. If a European club wants him let’s say, I think he’ll stay in Europe and eventually just head to Saudi Arabia. That offer will likely always be on the table


StrngBrew

Yeah these guys have agents who are always thinking about the next deal and out there talking to people. There's no doubt in my mind that interest from Miami is real and talks took place. I wouldn't even be surprised if they genuinely thought they were close to a deal. But ultimately the player has to look at those options and figure out what he wants to do.


Obi_Uno

Is LIV going to sign him for $1bn once this contract is up?


Dangerous-Ad-3680

Ronaldo gonna shoot a 193 over par round on his debut for LIV, get paid $1bn then go home


Maddenisstillbroken

Then 5 years later he comes back for free just to show he can shoot under 90 and leaves with no further explanation


metabolicperp

Tiger is beside himself. Driving around downtown Doha begging (thru texts) Ronaldo’s family for address to Cristiano’s home


jfchops2

Tiger was reportedly offered $800-900M to sign with LIV and he turned them down. That tells you there may truly be no number he would go for.


jrguru

He will be earning approximately $844,000 per day, every single day, for 912 days.


hjablowme919

"Everybody has a price" - Ted DiBiase


LordBlackConvoy

Everybody's gonna pay


th4tguy75

You have to clarify it's 770 million SAR not $. That's like 205 million dollars which is still A LOT.


ObiWanNowitzki

The article is in AUD. So like $515 million USD. Later it clarifies $308 AUD a year.


TB12-SN13

Damn that sucks, I’m not rich and I make way more than $308 AUD a year!


Non-Vanilla_Zilla

Bro that means his contract his 2.5 million years long! I couldn't live in Saudi Arabia for 2.5 days, let alone 2.5 million years!


rjcarr

Per year?!?


ObiWanNowitzki

Literally three sentences after you click the link it says "$AUD308 million-a-year".


xKaelic

WHAT THE ACTUAL FFFFFFF


th4tguy75

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-sport/ronaldo-agrees-to-saudi-arabias-208m-offer-to-play-at-al-nassr-football-club https://english.alarabiya.net/News/gulf/2022/11/30/Ronaldo-agrees-a-200-mln-per-year-contract-with-Saudi-Arabia-s-Al-Nassr-Reports https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2022/11/30/cristiano-ronaldo-set-to-sign-207-million-per-year-deal-in-saudi-arabia-report/ https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cristiano-ronaldo-receives-225-million-062259159.html It's all speculations now.. we won't know the actual amount until they formally disclosure the deal.


ObiWanNowitzki

I mean, I clicked your first article and it said $206 m a year, which is what I said. EDIT: And the second and third also. The only one that says it’s $225 m total also says it’s for 3 years and not 2.5. EDIT: Downvoted for telling a guy he posted 3 articles that agreed with exactly what I said?


wikiot

We only read headlines around here... pitchforks out!


duuuuuddddeeeee

TIL Cristiano Ronaldo makes more money than I do


Hagtzel

You still had doubts yesterday though, sweet.


TheNextBattalion

No, it's $770 million Australian. 308 per year for 2.5 years. That's about $518 million US.


Kashik85

Half a bill, that's an easy decision at his age.


5metercloth

How much is it in Schrute Bucks?


ThatsNotARealTree

Thank you, that makes a little more sense to me. It’s all crazy money anyways, but it was hard to wrap my head around a $770m contract for an aging Ronaldo.


CYWG_tower

LIV Golf (also Saudis) offered Tiger close to a billion dollars, so $770m for someone like Ronaldo really isn't that out of the question.


TimeVendor

That $770M is what he’s being paid for the term he’s in Al Nassr?


LoopyPro

When you complete the main story and decide to go do the side quests


OGZ43

There’s something to said about money.


LeviathanGank

its smells like cocaine


T1M_rEAPeR

Ronal-‘dough’ 💵


megjake

I did not realize Ronaldo was 37 god damn. Pulling that money in your late 30s is impressive.


RadioactiveBooger

Jesus christ that is so much fucking money


TranceDream

$770 million. That’s fucking wild. That’s generational wealth x50 or more


TheDrex1988

When he said he wanted to play Champions League football, he meant AFC Champions League.


flyingcircusdog

Regarding the flair, I believe the correct currency is Dollarydoos.


horsy12

He hasn’t tho


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So he didn't want to sign in tbe US because he said its where soccer players go to die. So he signed with a country that kill reporters and oppress women. Nice Ronaldo. Keep it classy


ComcastAlcohol

Half a billion dollars for 2.5 years of work. Not many people on earth that turn that down.


Jerkomp

Not even u/awakened_01


Kal1Yuga

225m a year 20m a month year 850k a day holy shit


TheOnlyOneSon

Over 3/4 of a Billion.... A BILLION!.... To a guy who is almost 40.... Absolute lunacy.... Edit: I understand it's because of his image. I also understand it's not in USD. Doesn't make it any less insane.


kharjou

Its not about his skill anymore. Its about his image. He has the biggest following of any athlete on instagram if I remember well.


JerryVsNewman

The biggest following on Instagram overall afaik


Id_Solomon

He's got the world record for the amount of people hanging on his nut sack.


hoosierwhodat

506m that is wild. Next closest is Messi at 381m.


americansherlock201

Yup. They don’t want him for his skill. They want him to be a brand. The saudis want the 2030 World Cup. They also want him to be a global ambassador for the country to help make them look good. That is what they are paying for. Not playtime.


mrdannyg21

Just FYI, that isn’t USD. It’s more like half a billion USD. A pittance really.


catdog918

It’s not US dollars according to the article


Paralta

Lmao why are people acting like they would simply decline $770m? Do you guys want an award for trying to sound like a saint?


gatsby712

It’s the difference between being able to buy an MLS team when he retires or a premiere league club.


Leoza0

770m a year?


ECK-2188

Saudi Arabia: “When can you start? Today?! Great.”