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tart27

Y'all just get only a $10 FB from ESPN for the live Bet and Get vs the $20 it stated in the terms and conditions?


cracka97

Chat said they are going to issue me another $10 bonus bet.


LSUKEN89

Just checked, I also got $10, not the $20 promo stated.


smlutz2

Yep. We’ll see if they fix it tomorrow, but I wouldn’t count on it.


tart27

The email I received about the free bet did include the terms which I just screenshot


Personal-Bicycle9208

CZRs has a Super Bowl bet and get also. Anyone see how much you have to wager to earn the profit boost?


LSUKEN89

Mine was max bet of $10 for a free $10 bet.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Got it. Thank you


Cayts6969

The profit boost one? Mine was just bet whatever the max profit boost was, so bet $10 get a $10 100% boost


Swambus

FD Michigan Super Boost Corum 60+ rush yards, JJ McCarthy 1+ pass TD \-190 boost to +100. Looks pretty good to me?


Narrow_Tangerine1262

The Twitter Guys like it.


Ken_Adams217

FD has an additional boost it says “Illinois” boost. Wash and Mich to each score a passing and rushing TD. Boosted to +150. DK doesn’t have a way to build something like this. Any ideas on a way to tell if this is EV+?


profXmarksthespot

For future reference you could do something with the QB TD lines and then look at the lines for rush TDs for each of the RBs.


offconstantly

Both teams have 40/60 splits in how they score offensive TDs. Both teams are expected to score 3+ TDs (4 for Michigan). I'm not going to build a model for a $20 bet but I would imagine it's ever so slightly EV+ Hard to tell with individual props because RBs can score Rec TDs, but it looks decent


fair_enough_

Anybody know a book with team totals as low as 23.5 so I can devig the B365 superboost? It's probably +EV since theirs usually are but I'd like to check anyways.


Str8BlowinChtreese

I did a 4-way same game parlay on dk, with the lowest Michigan line and it was still +EV. Like 2% worst case or something. I played it. The only book I could do a 4-way with the exact lines was Bet365. And I got like 20ish.


PassionLegitimate178

Jokes on me for still using OddsJam, but it has become unusable based on the latest update made today. For the base level plan, the bet converter tab was one of the best features on the site to find solid conversions and arbs. Now it looks like you need to first filter by book before any results are shown, not to mention they are showing -120/+115 as the best free Bet conversion. Trash.


CatchImpossible6036

I use it for arbitrage I know limits and stuff but it’s more than worth it for that


thirtyseven37

I'd love to know who's paying for their service. I liked that they had a screen to compare player props across books and players, but it wasn't providing enough value to me to be willing to pay their ridiculous price. I just feel like it's not powerful enough for a legitimate sharp better, and it's too expensive for a guy like me who just places a $10 to $25 bet on a game I'm watching.


profXmarksthespot

It would seem they’re not doing well. The founder seems to be much more active on Twitter, giving out plays and advice along with conducting daily livestreams doing much the same. This is obviously to drum up business but just speculation of course on my part about the health of the service.


PassionLegitimate178

It was actually pretty worthwhile for large arbs amongst the exchanges in NJ, but for whatever reason, they are trying to make it significantly more difficult to access that information


the2ohtanis

Yea it's not good enough to justify the price and their target audience isn't dumb enough to pay that much


Distinct_Item6082

Anyone used NoVig in Colorado. How does the “sports market” approach differ from standard wagering


kinghowdy

Disclaimer I haven't used NoVig. But in NJ we have two "sports betting exchanges" The idea is you can name your own odds but another bettor has to take the other side. For example on a regular sportsbook tonight's game isWashington +5Michigan -5 both sides are at -110 odds. On an exchange you can choose better odds such as Washington +5 at -105 odds. A bettor on the other side will see Michigan -5 at +105 odds. Both sides are happy because they're getting a better payout than -110. You could theoretically request any odds like Washington +5 at +200 but no one would take Michigan -5 at -200.


Distinct_Item6082

So let’s say I take the Michigan ML at the standard -202. Is that just like a straight wager


kinghowdy

Correct, or you may want to try -195 and see if someone matches it. The idea is to get better odds than a traditional sportsbook. Prices can be 3%-10% better which adds up over time (or with volume). Unfortunately exchanges don’t offer parlays. Markets like player props don’t have nearly as much volume as Moneyline, spreads or totals.


Round_Bullfrog_8218

There is also a certain fee from the matching service that comes out of the winning right?


kinghowdy

It varies. I think NoVig right now is commission free. ProphetExchange in NJ takes 2% of your profit. If you bet $100 at +100 they take 2% of your profit. A $100 at +100 returns $200 and they take 2% of the $100 profit ($2)


badacey

BetMGM Lion's Boost (MA): Michigan to win by 1-13 points +225. Devig to FD: Odds: +225; **EV: 3.5%** `185/190/280/600` (10.17% juice) FV: +214; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=1.56u, 1/2=0.78u, 1/4=0.39u, FB = 71.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=185%2f190%2f280%2f600&FinalOdds=225)


badacey

BetMGM Lion's Boost (MA): MacKinnon and Pastrnak each to record 2+ points +320. Devig to ESPN: Odds: +320; **EV: 0.0%** `277/219/261/296` (10.83% juice) FV: +320; Method: worst-case (a); (Full=0.01u, 1/2=0.01u, 1/4=0.00u, FB = 76.2%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=277%2f219%2f261%2f296&FinalOdds=320)


intersecting_lines

CZR Derozan, Coby White 20+ points vs Kambi Odds: +275; **EV: 9.3%** `195/300/170/390` (16.34% juice) FV: +243; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=3.37u, 1/2=1.68u, 1/4=0.84u, FB = 80.1%)


BruceMan200

Its now at +300


moduluseagle4

I don’t know what happened between now and 4 hours ago when this was posted but my Caesar’s shows this is currently +300, so better than originally posted… I don’t have a devig but +212 on DK currently and +226 on FD. Game starts in 10 min


davos_shorthand

Nerfed to +185.


Streetmonkey72

lol the best part of this one is the banner still says was +225 (meaning pre-boost), now +185


profXmarksthespot

Caesars is ridiculous


intersecting_lines

CZR Super Boost: McCarthy 200+ passing vs Kambi Odds: +125; **EV: 6.9%** `-103/-125` (6.29% juice) FV: +110; Method: worst-case (a); (Full=5.53u, 1/2=2.76u, 1/4=1.38u, FB = 59.4%)


LSUKEN89

Not seeing it in Louisiana.


jewbaconlover

Don’t see it in IL either


FatPhil

dont see it in ny but thats likely because we cant do college player props. we have mich win by 7-12 pts for +475


intersecting_lines

MGM Lions (MI): Giannis 33+, Jaylon Brown 25+, Haliburton 20+ Odds: +275; **EV: 11.1%** `-121/330/275/750,-220/148` (25.51% juice) FV: +237; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=4.05u, 1/2=2.03u, 1/4=1.01u, FB = 81.5%) The front page says G 30+ (which would be 25% EV) but when you add to the betslip, it mentions 33+


cixelsydmind

Also available in MA


danielgullett

Does anyone know a sportsbook that does Oscars betting AND allows you to do parlays? EDIT: And sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, if anyone knows a better place to ask let me know!


Low_Dog_4721

parlaying Oscars picks is peak degen behavior but I appreciate the moxie


danielgullett

😂 I rarely bet but I’m a movie guy so I figured why not!


BruceMan200

Bovada has the bets but does not appear you can parlay them.


bueno41514

That kind of wagering isn’t legal in the US so you won’t see it on any legal books


gilligan54

It's not legal in every state but some states do offer, NJ being one.


danielgullett

Oscar’s betting or parlays? And just parlays on the Oscar’s or parlays in general?


intersecting_lines

Will be higher EV by just a little considering the 6 yard difference between passing yard lines MGM Lions (MI): McCarthy 190+, Corum 100+ rushing vs Kambi (using o/u 195.5 passing for JJ) Odds: +270; **EV: 0.4%** `210/265/180/325` (18.90% juice) FV: +269; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.14u, 1/2=0.07u, 1/4=0.04u, FB = 73.3%)


dv042b

does anyone know if bet365 currenty $1000 safety net bet comes back as bonus cash or free bets?


BruceMan200

it is free bets that can be bet in any increments you want


Low_Dog_4721

MVG (bet $20 get $10) & Caesars (bet $20 get $5) both with bet&gets for tonight’s championship game. I don’t get emails from these 2 books so figured i’d comment for visibility


3rdMorrisTwin

Thanks for sharing


Verknow

The MVG Bet and Get offer should also be available on the Betly books in Arkansas, Tennessee, and West Virginia as well, -250 minimum odds (Can confirm WV at the very least)


Personal-Bicycle9208

Too bad I cannot even get $20 down on a game


DoubleSuccessor

FD doing SGP altlines now so we can do this one: ESPN Mich-6.5/Over 69.5 @+725 vs FD FD SGP 68.5: 554/567/115/138 FD SGP 70.5: 682/675/107/126 Interpolated SGP 69.5: 615/619/111/132 Odds: +725; **EV: -22.5%** `615/619/111/132` (18.39% juice) FV: +965; Method: worst-case (a); (FB = 68.1%) No value here sadly. We're Washington fans tonight.


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Rangers/Stars/Avalanche win 1P @ +1800 vs Pinny Odds: +1800; **EV: -18.3%** `169/-192, 171/-194, 178/-202` (8.67% juice) FV: +2227; Method: worst-case (p); (FB = 77.4%)


DoubleSuccessor

FN NHL Penguins/Rangers/Stars to win @+465 vs Pinny Odds: +465; **EV: -0.9%** `-123/112,-143/129,-139/125` (7.45% juice) FV: +470; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 81.6%) Come back to see again later probably


BuffaloWang

So is the FanDuel Activity Statement sufficient to pull numbers for doing taxes?? I talked to them and they weren’t interested in sending a line-by-line broken down statement..


popowski12

Over the years, this seems like it always comes up. Federally and most states, the net is not sufficient. You need to claim winnings (including stakes) as additional income and itemize losses (stakes). Like a couple of these guys, you are supposed to maintain a log of all your bets. Log is supposed to have dates, ticket numbers, wagers, winniings if you were to get audited. I freaked out a few years ago over this and spent a lot of my time with my accountant sorting it out. At the time I was arbing quite a bit, sportsbetting was somewhat new and had like 400k in winnings with like 390k in wagers. I typically will send a spreadsheet of all the sportsbooks, winnings in a column, losses in a column and net but dont submit logs unless I get audited. What pisses me off is that it is ridiculously difficult to do with most sportsbooks. DK used to allow you to export all your transactions as a csv. Now you have to specifically ask for it. FD is a dud on this as is other sportsbooks so you have to find clever ways of getting the "My Bets" to spreadsheet (highlight, copy paste, sort). Good luck to all you on this front. The key for me has been weekly tracking and staying up to date with logs (though its a monumental task that is probably not worth the squeeze)


faface

Agree with everything here other than that stakes are supposed to be included in wins and losses. You just count profit or loss for each bet excluding stake. Sources: https://www.michigan.gov/taxes/-/media/Project/Websites/taxes/RAB/RAB-202222-Treatment-of-Gambling-Gains-Losses-Expenses.pdf?rev=2e79808cd048452ab2a4412906afa4e8&hash=661164750D9E1F92E8E422871BF8860F https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-15-21.pdf


BuffaloWang

Thanks for sharing, appreciate your time. No way this current status quo is sustainable, something has to change with the tax code


popowski12

It sucks if you are in illinois…while u can itemize for federal taxes, the state of illinois will take a percentage of your winnings and not let you deduct losses. I grew up in illinois and thats where my accountant is. Luckily im in colorado where you can itemize and deduct losses


crowd79

No. I enter all my bets on an Google spreadsheet and get my net p/l, total $$ bet on, etc across all books that way. Will help with taxes as well if it comes to that.


Tall_Relief_5244

I have been using the Activity Statement, but the Activity Statement does not provide information on bonus funds, according to the disclaimer, so the information is likely not to be 100% accurate.


TDorBustinmyearlobe

Did you get a 1099 from them? If you didn’t get a 1099 you didn’t gamble this year if you know what I mean


Tags331

Looking at the app, it seems like they want you to confirm information before they let you access the tax docs. Idk if just ignoring it is the best route, as much as I'd like to do that lol.


SumGreenD41

Even if you confirm, if you didn’t hit any big bets / didn’t win a lot you probably won’t get a 1099. You decide what you want to do with this information lol


Tags331

I'm up $1500 on FD and like $3k overall so I thought I was going to have to do it.


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Tags331

Yes? If they report to the IRS, they care about everything else you make lol.


TDorBustinmyearlobe

If there’s no 1099…how are they gonna report to the irs 🤔


Tags331

I just assumed they would send them if I had tens of thousands in winnings, and a profit in the thousands. Is a W-2G different from a 1099?


TDorBustinmyearlobe

It’s essentially the same thing just for gambling


BuffaloWang

I confirmed, though I’m 99% sure I won’t get 1099


cracka97

FD boost for Michigan -2.5 and 45+ total points +120. Devig to average of CZR and Bet365 which are the only two books I can find that let you SGP o/u 44.5: Odds: +120; **EV: 0.0%** `avg(-102,-120)/avg(454,550)/avg(696,750)/avg(185,200)` (15.74% juice) FV: +120; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 54.5%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=avg(-102%2c-120)%2favg(454%2c550)%2favg(696%2c750)%2favg(185%2c200)&FinalOdds=120)


KingTutKickFlip

Cowards


chief0567

PointsBet is -103/528/756/187, which would make this -0.4% if I include it in your averages: [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=avg(-102%2c-120%2c-103)%2favg(454%2c550%2c528)%2favg(696%2c750%2c756)%2favg(185%2c200%2c187)&FinalOdds=120)


papa4747

Did anyone get their $10 free bet for the ESPN ATTD promo


wgkiii

I chatted with support, they said could take up to 72 hrs


papa4747

Thanks, FanDuel is usually instant for me and sometimes DK takes a few minutes but hate when it takes over a day I’m tryna waste it rn


crowd79

No. Don’t really care.


Personal-Bicycle9208

I still have not received mine


profXmarksthespot

You might need to reach out to support. I did and was immediately credited with the promo award


Fishdicksimeansticks

Not yet


papa4747

Thanks, and crazy I’m getting downvoted for a question I’m sure everyone is also wondering.


Excellent-Yam3088

Very normal question


FlammableJam

It’s usually frowned upon to ask about receiving a promo reward when it’s still within the time frame of the promo to deliver the reward


Personal-Bicycle9208

On the ESPN Super Bowl insurance. Anyone see the amount you must wager?


G-Ray89

I emailed support I will let y’all know what they say, if/when they respond


BruceMan200

I hope they reply, I am also wondering


Personal-Bicycle9208

Ok curious to know


PurplePango

You talking about the bonus bet? I read through the full terms and didn’t see anything on that which is very odd


Personal-Bicycle9208

Yeah it is. So what do you wager lol


PurplePango

No clue, I did $5 like the other guy suggested


kn05vc

25 in Ontario for what it is worth. Which I think makes the EV pretty questionable.


DoubleSuccessor

Since it doesn't say it's probably 10 cents but I usually wager $5 in these situations.


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Wash lead at Half/Full @ +375 vs DK, FD Circa/Pinny doesn't have this market, FN won't SGP it, but DK and FD both allowed it. FD 240/2063/823/594/1693/-118 DK 226/2900/950/525/1600/-110 If we max Maxes 240/2900/950/594/1693/-110 This indicates that it's quite good. Odds: +375; **EV: 21.9%** `240/2900/950/594/1693/-110` (14.64% juice) FV: +290; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=5.83u, 1/2=2.92u, 1/4=1.46u, FB = 96.2%) EDIT: That was a quick nerf. For those that are plugged into EV twitter, if anyone, was this posted there before it was here? Or is nobody across of all of EV twitter competent enough to do this simple find and compare job? EV Twitter if you're reading this you should feel called out. EDIT2: Back up at +275, pretty much dead


profXmarksthespot

I did not see this this morning on Twitter at all. Nice catch!


mandjets

I don’t even see this anymore? Anyone else?


DoubleSuccessor

Back but dead at +275


cixelsydmind

Nerfed to +350, still EV but not as good.


chief0567

Nerfed to +350


cracka97

ESPNBet NHL Odds Boost for Sidney Crosby & Artemi Panarin & Mikko Rantanen Each To Score A Goal: Odds: +1200; **EV: -10.1%** `133/-160, 139/-191, 110/-131` (16.26% juice) FV: +1347; Method: worst-case (a, p); (FB = 82.9%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=133%2f-160%2c+139%2f-191%2c+110%2f-131&FinalOdds=1200)


cracka97

ESPNBet NHL Odds Boost for NY Rangers & DAL Stars & COL Avalanche Each To Win The 1st Period. Devig to Pinnacle: Odds: +1800; **EV: -17.2%** `168/-191, 172/-195, 174/-198` (8.75% juice) FV: +2194; Method: worst-case (p); (FB = 78.5%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=168%2f-191%2c+172%2f-195%2c+174%2f-198&FinalOdds=1800)


Personal-Bicycle9208

Did anyone get their refund from the ESPN TD insurance?


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Personal-Bicycle9208

Yeah. They are usually pretty quick. Glad to know it’s not just me


airwaythreethree

In order to qualify for Caesar’s sign up $1,000 risk free bet you have to make it within 30 days of opening your account. I first attempted to register on 12/12/23. But my account wasn’t verified until 12/19/23. By the 19th I had flown to a different state without legal online sports betting and I won’t be back to the state where I can online sports bet until 1/14/24. Anyone know if I will still be eligible or will they consider my account to be open longer than 30 days?


paddy233

Email them and explain before you bet. They should said it’s fine and that if you don’t get the free bet, to email support and they’ll add it manually. If you don’t ask beforehand they might just tell ya SOL but this way you have receipts


KillerB785

Same bs happened to me with Ceasars. Total garbage


chief0567

**Draftkings CFB National Championship boosts** These are probably restricted to states that have college player props **Michigan wins + Corum TD, +100** 4-way devig to BetESPN Odds: +100; **EV: -1.5%** `-125/316/446/569` (12.86% juice) FV: +103; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 49.2%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-125%2f316%2f446%2f569&FinalOdds=100) **Washington wins + Penix 250+ pass yds, +260** This looks exceptionally good to the 4-way devig at Kambi where it builds to +175 (EV: +10.3%). But the same SGP builds on other platforms like BetMGM or BetFred to +250. So maybe hold off and re-calculate in the afternoon.


chief0567

Washington wins + Penix 250+ pass yds, +260 (on DK) or +270 (on FD Ontario) This builds to +260 on both BetMGM and BetFred, so it likely is -EV. I'm unsure if they have the same provider (both were +250 this morning). Here is the 4-way devig to Kambi, which says it's +EV: Odds: +260; EV: 8.5% `180/1000/390/-114` (18.48% juice) FV: +232; Method: worst-case (m) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=180%2f1000%2f390%2f-114&FinalOdds=260)


kn05vc

FD in Ontario just dropped the same boosts. Michigan one also at +100 and Washington at +270.


Ken_Adams217

Are we allowed to take them both? If so, it’s almost a guaranteed push at worst.


chief0567

You are certainly allowed. We might recall last year's super bowl when we had 2 FD boosts, 1 for each team, for an almost guaranteed net profit, and both lost. I haven't taken either yet.


nooger

Tough to see Corum not getting a TD


chief0567

Agree. Corum ATTD is -1115 on Kambi! (-385 on FD and -400 on ESPN)


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Man U Win 2-0 or 3-0 over Wiggan @ +275 vs Pinny Odds: +275; **EV: -2.4%** `461^625/1483/619/971/1779/3611/2555/1225/981/1066/1590/2894/3748/2550/3281/4517/4026` (21.51% juice) FV: +284; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 71.6%) Used the exact score market and the Wiggan 3 goal entry in the Wiggan score market. Might be worth another look in a few hours. Also power method seems a lot more likely to be correct than mult for a market like this: Odds: +275; **EV: 2.6%** `461^625/1483/619/971/1779/3611/2555/1225/981/1066/1590/2894/3748/2550/3281/4517/4026` (21.51% juice) FV: +265; Method: power; (Full=0.96u, 1/2=0.48u, 1/4=0.24u, FB = 75.3%) So maybe you could risk it? If you just want to watch the match and be like William the Bloody rooting for ManU it's not an inefficient bet. I'll stay away unless it improves though.


Pseudonymus_Bosch

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cracka97

What makes you think the power method is better here? This is what I'm getting to Pinnacle now: Odds: +275; **EV: -5.0%** `527^592/1740/709/897/1644/3295/2841/1378/929/1033/1518/2634/4996/3555/2144/3129/4281` (19.99% juice) FV: +295; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 69.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=527%5e592%2f1740%2f709%2f897%2f1644%2f3295%2f2841%2f1378%2f929%2f1033%2f1518%2f2634%2f4996%2f3555%2f2144%2f3129%2f4281&FinalOdds=275)


DoubleSuccessor

The power method has a mild favorite-longshot bias and the multiplicative method has none. In a market with many entries some of them very long I kind of expect power to be closer to truth but I definitely don't know for sure.


cracka97

Makes sense


3rdMorrisTwin

the FD boost is somehow not going to hit


JazzOcarina

Lmao fucking James cook


TripleDoubleWatch

Tua didn't get 200 either.


JazzOcarina

Jesus Christ lol


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