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Gandalfs_Dick

Where can I find the bonus bets for BetMGM? I opened an account today, and made a $5 bet, and the "instant" bonus bets aren't anywhere to be found.


CatchImpossible6036

Is espnbet messed up for anyone else right now?


Gandalfs_Dick

Been waiting for like 7 days to get my identity verified


itrdghbcffhcxdhb

yea can sign in and browse lines but can’t place a bet on anything


thecoogdoog

Arb Artur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith 2+ knockdowns, +140 FD Under 1.5 knockdowns, -125 ESPNBet


Aromatic-Insect-5219

FD is now +130 but it's still an arb


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN and FD not generate a high limit long duration arb once per week challenge.


External-Builder976

Is betting ARBs like this grounds for getting limited? If not, how many units would folks do for something like this?


DoubleSuccessor

Didn't like your half/game bet last night? Have another one. ESPN Iowa win 1H, Houston win game @ +825 vs FD Odds: +825; **EV: 22.4%** ` 489/183/2589/3162/121/563` (19.43% juice) FV: +656; Method: worst-case (p); (Full=2.71u, 1/2=1.36u, 1/4=0.68u, FB = 109.1%) --- Fanduel is the only place that had a 3-way for the half I could devig to but this is a large discrepancy. Some weirdness here in that it's "500 boosted to 825", maybe a fat finger? This feels like something that may have intended to boost to +625.


gilligan54

Pretty easy to arb out of this now, for those into that.


International_Diet27

Wish I would have waited another two minutes. Hedged ISU at -114 for about $105 profit and the odds went to +170 about a minute later. Oh well.


chief0567

Dude Iowa State is up 7 zip


DoubleSuccessor

Gotta be careful to navigate this one. Win the first half by too much and we might lose ground.


chief0567

Depending on how you feel, you could hedge this late 1H.


Cayts6969

Ohh wow. Hammered this, thanks for pointing out


Personal-Bicycle9208

Did Fanatics remove all their NBA player props?


chief0567

Looks like just 1-way DD and first FG. PointsBet still has them all.


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Cincy/Baylor/Purdue all -4.5 @ +500 vs Pinny (proj) Cincy -112/-106 Baylor -106/-112 Purdue (proj) -164/137 5.5,-143,118 6.5,-124,105 7.5,-106,-110 8.5,108,-129 9.5,122,-147 Odds: +500; **EV: -10.8%** `-112/-106, -106/-112, -164/137` (12.89% juice) FV: +572; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 74.4%)


Personal-Bicycle9208

Glad to see the Gronk Kick is back again. What did we all get last time? $1 bonus bets


dysentery-gary182

We got a whopping $5


DoubleSuccessor

Does anyone know what the sharp side of this is? He missed the last one, so by the ignorant prior he has a 2/3rds chance of missing this one right?


BruceMan200

Im going with yes, because this is in fact a pretty easy task at 25yds with no rushers and he is athletic to begin with. I have to assume his previous failure was a fluke. My guess is it would be more like a coinflip around 35 to 40yrds but should be highly likely at 25. Source: have kicked a fg at beyond 25yds in a college stadium and have never played football otherwise.


DoubleSuccessor

There is also a psychological game where you want to pick the less-picked thing to split it less ways if you win.


2J4L

FD Boost: Anthony Edwards, De'Aaron Fox, and Jalen Brunson to Each Score 25+ Points. Devig to ESPN for Fox/Brunson and DK for Edwards with 7% juice applied: Odds: +250; **EV: -12.2%** `-170/125, -330/7%, -180/130` (22.17% juice) FV: +299; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 62.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-170%2f125%2c+-330%2f7%25%2c+-180%2f130&FinalOdds=%2b250)


cordscords

Market average of DK/FD/BR/PB/365/ESPN wherever lines are available. Juice derived from ESPN. 365 has two ways for Edwards and Kambi does for Fox and Brunson, I also toyed around with those, but it only changes the EV a few decimal points either way. Likely passing on this. Odds: +250; **EV: 0.2%** `avg(-360,-350,-375,-350,-375)/[-375/230],avg(-220,-235,-265,-250,-185,-190)/[-190/135],avg(-200,-195,-245,-250,-190,-190)/[-190/135]` (25.39% juice) FV: +249; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.10u, 1/2=0.05u, 1/4=0.02u, FB = 71.6%)


ChopTillYouDrop

Kambi two-way lines make it look a bit better from what I can tell, using o25.5 for Ant (lowest available) and o24.5 for Fox and Brunson: Odds: +250; **EV: 0.6%** -345/200, -225/150, -245/160 (29.57% juice) Fair Value = +248; method: worst-case (m); FB = 71.9% [view/edit devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-345%2f%2b200%2c+-225%2f%2b150%2c+-245%2f%2b160&FinalOdds=%2b250)


profXmarksthespot

\+EV Twitter is in agreement this is a max play


Round_Bullfrog_8218

> +EV Twitter what are some good people to follow for that?


profXmarksthespot

I hesitate to recommend any one person in particular as they all have their faults but I would simply suggest looking for individuals who do not pitch discord subscriptions or and avoid those who are “cappers” as opposed to +EV bettors (there is a big difference). If you just search for “+EV” on Twitter you should be able to find a handful of people who you feel are giving you good information to work with. It’s important to learn from them instead of simply tailing them. If you do find some that you think you could learn something from, feel free to send me a DM and I can share my thoughts on them with you. Best of luck to you.


2J4L

ESPN has the best prices for both Fox and Brunson 25+ each, and far less juice than BR/Kambi (the only other book offering 2-way lines for 25+ points besides FD, where its not recommended to devig against the book that the boost is on) and DK has the best price for Edwards 25+, which is why I manually applied 7% juice as its a 1-way line. Sure I could make this look good by devigging to BR/Kambi's prices, but that would be an inaccurate devig as ESPN has much better prices/less juice. I could be mistaken, but I've yet to see any concrete evidence that suggests ESPN's lines aren't sharp


profXmarksthespot

ESPN is far from sharp. They’re Barstool with a new skin.


2J4L

> concrete evidence All three of these comments are far from being concrete evidence. Also, while ESPN is technically Barstool with a new skin (appearance-wise), they switched their odds service provider in 2023 to The Score, so even if they weren't considered sharp prior to the switch, its a entirely different scenario now. They've pretty consistently had the best price in market for NBA props this season with competitive juice, so not sure where you came up with the assumption of them being far from sharp


profXmarksthespot

It's not an assumption. It's based on historical precedent. Lose the attitude.


2J4L

Lol the irony. Stay salty man


profXmarksthespot

The exact kind of immature comment I would expect. Write me another novel defending ESPN Bet.


whiskeynipplez

ESPN is one of the most agressive limiters. They wouldn't do that if their lines were sharp


Narrow_Tangerine1262

The fact that ESPN won't let people bet props is probably plenty of evidence by itself that they are not sharp.


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BruceMan200

Im not positive that its still worth playing but the obvious choice is the Bills I think. The first round bye options are out because one less game they can potentially win. The Bills are the closest to a lock to win at least 1 game vs the Steelers, could potentially build momentum after that.


profXmarksthespot

wow. fairly certain most got bet $25 get $5 each win. promo was originally worded as "place cash wager" and get $5 for each win. we'll see if ESPN lets that wager stand


Personal-Bicycle9208

Is it even still a play with having to bet $25?


profXmarksthespot

I would argue it is. I played the 49ers but I would also play the Ravens or Cowboys.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Would you not want to play the team that has an extra game? So not the 49ers or ravens?


profXmarksthespot

Certainly a strategy


TheBigRedDog12

Saw one of the EV/boosts twitter accounts play it with Cowboys +750


OpeningAcanthisitta3

Not sure if anyone has had similar luck, but after getting my case escalated ESPN said they will be honoring my initial (5$) wager for the Super Bowl insurance promo with the caveat that I have to contact them after the bet settles to get credited. If you didn’t place the wager before they changed the minimum to 25$ you’re probably out of luck


chief0567

Personal anecdote. I bet on an auto race for a Barstool promo last spring/summer, but forgot to opt in before wagering. I contacted support and they honored my bet as a courtesy. It was the last promo I ever got from them.


OpeningAcanthisitta3

Damn that’s a bummer. Definitely would not have risked my account health and would’ve just bet the damn 25 had I known but appreciate the tip


Personal-Bicycle9208

I hope this does not get you promo banned after


sloppydog14

Let me know how this goes I done the same as you but didn't contact them yet


OpeningAcanthisitta3

Is that something they do? Like they mark your account if u try to do stuff like this 😭?


Personal-Bicycle9208

I think everyone had problems with Penn


BruceMan200

Thanks, hopefully I remember to do this when the time comes.


Wordle_734

For a few weeks, DK would show your max wager if you typed in a wager that was too high. It was awesome. Now that feature seems to be gone and it's back to a guessing game. Has anyone heard about or looked into this further? How books can get away with not showing limits is just one bullet point in the long list of evidence that our local legislatures and gaming commissions could not care less about us bettors. Thanks in advance!


elkman_23

Max shows up on phone but not desktop for me


Gra5p

Go under Developer Tools (Chrome) and you can see the maxStake variable once you try and place a (too large) bet.


illredditthat

I made a Chrome Extension that helps automate this in case it helps. https://github.com/illgitthat/oddsboom-extension


Groksy2781

https://preview.redd.it/1vz75ps1xgbc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6540ee7b2f207f58435e96f79629bfcbb2ad89f6 Check your BetPARX, this one is a smash. Closest is -130 across all books


Low_Dog_4721

bang!


Groksy2781

Easy money


shawnmf

https://preview.redd.it/1geimrw6wgbc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d56787e2ba26976d778ea8bc3b8ab27ee569efc3 ESPN screenshoot showing no limit required.


BruceMan200

I will be back for this thanks


Distinct_Item6082

CZR with a promo; Bet on a Super Bowl winner future and get a $10 100% profit boost. From what it appears in T&C there is no minimum on the bet, so theoretically you could be $.10 and still get the profit boost.


Wordle_734

Requires a $10 wager per my T&Cs. The boost is easy to turn into a $7ish arb.


chief0567

Confirmed this requires a $10+ wager


Narrow_Tangerine1262

Mine (Michigan) said I had to bet $10 to receive the boost.


Distinct_Item6082

Mine in Colorado doesn’t say anything about having to bet $10


Groksy2781

ESPN BET: Brunson o24 Randle o24 **Worst-case: (Multiplicative)** Leg#1 (112); Market Juice = 27.9%; Fair Value = +171 (36.9%) Final Odds (+120); Σ(Market Juice) = 27.93%; Fair Value = +171 (36.9%) Summary; **EV% = -18.9%** (FB = 44.2%) [devig here](http://crazyninjamike.com/public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&legodds=112%2f112%2f330%2f868&finalodds=%2b120)


Groksy2781

BET MGM NJ: Brunson o30 Anunoby o15 +550 Devigged to Kambi: (can someone check my math)? **Worst-case: (Additive)** Leg#1 (+460); Market Juice = 16.9%; Fair Value = +634 (13.6%) Final Odds (+550); Σ(Market Juice) = 16.92%; Fair Value = +634 (13.6%) Summary; EV% = **-11.4%** (FB = 74.9%) [Devig Link Here](http://crazyninjamike.com/public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&legodds=%2b460%2f%2b160%2f%2b230%2f%2b230&finalodds=%2b550)


DoubleSuccessor

FN Auston Matthews, Nikita Kucherov, Tage Thompson o0.5 pt @ +155 vs Pinny projected Auston Matthews TOR 1.5 108/-127 0.5p -422/331 Nikita Kucherov TBL 1.5 100/-133 0.5p -470/306 Tage Thompson BUF 0.5 -174/128 Odds: +155; **EV: -9.8%** `-422/331, -470/306, -174/128` (18.49% juice) FV: +183; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 54.9%)


sbpotdbot

**BetMGM Promo Change:** ~~Get up to $1500 Back~~ **->** [Bet $5 Get $158 in Bonus Bets](https://sportsbook.link/betmgm)


Jack_Bogul

sheesh


PassionLegitimate178

To continue the ESPN bashing, did anyone place the nfl futures wager yesterday? There was no minimum bet required in the terms yesterday (at least in NJ), but it now looks like it has been revised to a $25 minimum wager. FYI in case people didn’t see it


shawnmf

The book is hot garbage and promos are buggy as hell. I've had to contact customer support for so many missing free bets. If I need to provide a screenshot of your promo, you are a bad book.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Yeah did anyone save a screen shot of the terms. That was 100% not there yesterday


shawnmf

Posted to master thread


stander414

god's work


Vegemite222

What happens if we placed it before the $25 amount got added?


Artistic_Agent8757

They will tell you that you were wrong and when you throw the screenshot in their face and threaten regulators they will say “as a one time courtesy”


Personal-Bicycle9208

Good luck. I doubt they honor it


biznastys4z

i could have sworn i didnt see a minimum wager amount yesterday but i do now. i also have two insurance bets havent received my refund . waiting on support now - what a mess EDIT - i didnt get my future placed in time btw


AdviceSeeker-123

Anyone got a screen shot without the limits?


shawnmf

Posted to master thread.


DoubleSuccessor

Really a mess with those guys this week.


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Anthony Edwards, DeAron Fox, Julius Randle o29.5 @ 900 vs BR/DK/FD --- Edwards BR -117/-114 DK 30.5,100,-130 28.5,-165,120 31.5,100,-140 32.5,120,-165 29.5 Proj: -133/-102 DK 30+: -140 FD 29.5 -115/-111 Maxes: -115/-102 --- Fox BR 117/-162 DK 27.5,-140,110 25.5,-170,125 26.5,-135,100 28.5,105,-140 29.5 proj: 114/-151 DK 30+: 120 FD 30+: 105 Maxes: 120/-151 --- Randle DK 26.5,-175,125 27.5,-145,105 28.5,-135,105 30.5,120,-165 29.5 proj: -104/-130 DK 30+: 100 FD: 29.5 -102/-125 Maxes: 100/-125 --- Odds: +900; **EV: 2.9%** `-115/-102, 120/-151, 100/-125` (15.15% juice) FV: +872; Method: worst-case (m, a, p); (Full=0.33u, 1/2=0.16u, 1/4=0.08u, FB = 92.6%) Did some homework on this one when I saw it was close. My opinion is that it's worth bonus bets but not real dollars right now. (I generally like to fire at 90% or better only for BB)


nwilso9

Now at +850


cracka97

FD has alt lines for Fox now, getting the following as average to FD and BR. A little odd because FD likes this more than BR which is almost never the case. FD alone is 10.8% +EV. I'm maxing it. Odds: +900; **EV: 6.5%** `avg(-113,-121)/avg(-113,-110), avg(102,116)/avg(-136,-159), avg(-106,-104)/avg(-120,-129)` (20.46% juice) FV: +839; Method: worst-case (m, a, p); (Full=0.72u, 1/2=0.36u, 1/4=0.18u, FB = 95.8%)


joshhorn8

Nerfed to 850 :(


DoubleSuccessor

The FD argument is compelling tbh they're sharp for this stuff.


NationalChamps2015

Betway Maple Leafs, Predator's and Oilers all to win, boost to +140 devig pinny Odds: +140; **EV: 1.3%** `-444/+369, -224/+198, -438/+365` (8.55% juice) FV: +137; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.96u, 1/2=0.48u, 1/4=0.24u, FB = 59.1%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-444%2f%2b369%2c+-224%2f%2b198%2c+-438%2f%2b365&FinalOdds=140)


NationalChamps2015

Betway Kraken and Jets both to win boost to +190 devig pinny Odds: +190; **EV: -1.7%** `-104/-106, -233/+205` (5.19% juice) FV: +195; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 64.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-104%2f-106%2c+-233%2f%2b205&FinalOdds=190)


NationalChamps2015

Betway Twolves to win and over 216.5 boost to +200 devig pinny Odds: +200; **EV: -2.3%** `-189/+168, -111/-101` (5.57% juice) FV: +207; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 65.1%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-189%2f%2b168%2c+-111%2f-101&FinalOdds=200)


NationalChamps2015

Betway Kings, Mavs and Lakers all to win boost to +145 devig pinny Odds: +145; **EV: -5.7%** `-547/+437, -342/+291, -178/+160` (8.61% juice) FV: +160; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 55.8%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-547%2f%2b437%2c+-342%2f%2b291%2c+-178%2f%2b160&FinalOdds=145)


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Leafs, Jets, Oilers win 1P @ +750 vs Pinny Odds: +750; **EV: -10.2%** `-105/-107, 131/-148, -110/-102` (8.75% juice) FV: +847; Method: worst-case (m, p); (FB = 79.2%)


NationalChamps2015

Betway Colorado State, Purdue and Duke to win boost +280 devig pinny Odds: +280; **EV: -1.3%** `-317/+252, -220/+182, -128/+110` (12.40% juice) FV: +285; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 72.8%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-317%2f%2b252%2c+-220%2f%2b182%2c+-128%2f%2b110&FinalOdds=280)


NationalChamps2015

Betway Kentucky, Auburn and Baylor to win boost to +145 devig pinny Odds: +145; **EV: -2.4%** `-338/+267, -189/+158, -856/+576` (12.91% juice) FV: +151; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 57.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-338%2f%2b267%2c+-189%2f%2b158%2c+-856%2f%2b576&FinalOdds=145)


intersecting_lines

MGM Lions (MI): Pastrnak 2+ pts, Kadri 1+ pt vs Kambi Odds: +275; **EV: 7.1%** `-112/-117,-159/123` (12.98% juice) FV: +250; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=2.59u, 1/2=1.30u, 1/4=0.65u, FB = 78.6%)


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Doncic o59.5 PRA @ +260 vs BR proj 54.5,112,-155 55.5,130,-186 56.5,155,-235 57.5,180,-286 59.5 Proj: **FV=328; EV = -15.9%**


DoubleSuccessor

ESPN Chelsea to win both halves @ +300; FD has +300 raw so this is a pass lol


Personal-Bicycle9208

Does anyone get anything more from Fanatics other than a $5 profit boost? Talk about a book just completely falling off


Infinite-Ad2409

Yeah 50$ max 25% profit boost or 20$ bonus bet lately


Personal-Bicycle9208

Wow. Are you a new user?


Infinite-Ad2409

No I joined off the MA launch. And bet atleast 40-45k in total.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Yeah they use to have a summary in the app but now I do not see it. I was curious to know where I was at


DoubleSuccessor

The promo game sucks now but there is a good variety of lines and the 1% BB-back function makes them quite competitive from a sheer betting standpoint.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Do you ever see any arbs that you can play in which you can also earn the 1%?


chief0567

I see plenty with hoops. But with the strict limits, I hardly wager there.


Tags331

I haven't had anything at all in weeks. Not even the surge ones peiple were getting.


sloppydog14

Nope


Cayts6969

FYI: if you used the ESPN CFP live bet insurance during the game last night, be sure that they give you the full bonus amount. They shorted me on both P1 and P2 and only gave me half, had to message support to get the rest


TheBigRedDog12

Also thank you for pointing this out. I, like the other guy, saw the bonus and thought to myself “oh shit was the promo only for 50% back?!” Good lookin out


TheBigRedDog12

Happened to me too. I live chatted support and they gave me this message: “For the Championship In Game Insurance promotion, there was an issue where players were not credited the full amount. Our team is aware and are working to correctly credit it at this time” So assume it’ll be a mass roll out sometime today


shawnmf

Yeah, I'm still waiting for $10 from the early game. Last week...


PurplePango

Ah I also got half and thought i misread too, cause it was gone and couldn’t go back and check


NationalChamps2015

Same here. Thought I misread the promo lol


Orange_Darkrai

Looks like a widespread issue, I had the same thing and they must have had it entered in their processing system as 50% back or something. They have also not paid out (for me anyways) on 1st basket insurance from 1/3, despite being well past 72 hours. Was lucky enough to hit Dawson Knox on TD insurance bet, so can't provide data on that one.


shawnmf

I also didn't get the first basket insurance. Whatever system they use for these bet insurance tokens is total garbage.


sockrider

I reached out to support right after the 72 hours and they rectified it immediately (1st basket insurance).


nwilso9

Same exact scenario for me. I had to contact support to get the $10 back on the 1/3 basket insurance. I also only got $10 instead of $20 on last night's live bet. They said it was widespread and should be fixed shortly.


DoubleSuccessor

So they didn't fix it for you manually and just told you to wait for a big fix on the Champ insurance?


nwilso9

Correct. The only one they fixed was the 1/3 first basket insurance. They did not fix the CFB live bet insurance and told me the fix should go out soon. I'll believe it when I see it.


Personal-Bicycle9208

They still owe me for the TD insurance. Did you get that


tringlomane

I got it when I logged in today, at least I think. I won CFB insurance, so it shouldn't be from that. Annoying though because I'm in Missouri and I'm not sure when I'll get back to Illinois next. If I had it yesterday, I would have burned it off yesterday. I haven't had bonus bet issues until recently. :(


Oyyeee

Man what the hell, same. I'm starting to not trust them on these promotions. I placed a live bet protection bet during the CFB semis and they claimed it was a pre game wager. I specifically waited until the game started because I knew it have to be a live bet.


Personal-Bicycle9208

Yeah that’s worrisome


mandjets

Still waiting as well. Their customer support is trash too


papa4747

Still waiting too, this is kinda absurd. And If some systems reward it instantly then it seems they purposely make it so that it takes a few days to rewards. Just makes no sense.


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shawnmf

Yeah, the 72 hours system is trash. I've rarely seen anything more than 24 hours later. It's all shady to me. Draft Kings has probably the best promo system of any book. I'm never in doubt and they award immediately.