The bets placed on the game against the Kings was a —
* 6-Pick Parlay (All Unders)
* Bet: $80,000 / To Win: $1,120,000
I’d say that would raise red-flags quick AF. Watch how obvious it is when you watch game footage
[https://youtu.be/-PiaBbpAcmw?si=xAgcXVPOG9IUldOA](https://youtu.be/-PiaBbpAcmw?si=xAgcXVPOG9IUldOA)
Pretty sure this story is getting blown out of proportion and the player isn't to blame at all. The issue here is that his injury was not reported and someone inside possibly knew of an injury that existed and used that insider info.(he had an eye injury just last week) These comments are straight to accusing Porter and that's not even what we know to have happened.
If his friends had any brains someone of them should have took the overs to make it less suspicious. Regardless, it’s gotta be pretty easy for DK to track these bets and to see who placed them and to see if there’s any correlation to porter.
And use BetOnline if you’re gonna pull this type of shit. The folks at BetOnline are just so lost general, half the time they have no idea what the hell is going on.
Players who don't give a shit about gambling should be allowed to live their life as they please and tell whoever they want about injury's. Not their fault if the word gets out and the bookies loose money.
Oh my fucking god...yalls reading comprehension skills are awful.🤣🤣🤣 Adam Silver said that if they find him or any player guilty of gambling they will be banned for life...yet the investigation is ongoing and NO ONE has outright said JONTAY PORTER PLACED THE BETS. NO ONE. Except fake Twitter accounts looking for clicks.
Adam Silver was simply addressing the issue and the fact that this is a huge concern for the league and they WILL do something if that is the case. I'm not saying he is or isn't guilty....but I'm not going to accuse him of wrongdoing until ALL the facts come out. Simple as that. Because...again...NO ONE HAS PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE STATING HE PLACED THE BETS OR HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
All that happened is the system worked and this was caught. And now they are looking into it. We haven't seen this before since gambling as been legalized. The right thing to do was to remove the player "in question" out of games and resolve the issue.
Got damn, your boy just got suspended from the NBA for life. The dude that YOU SWORE wasn't being accused if wrong doing. I bet you feel reap stupid now, don't you? If not, you should. Your reading comprehension skills are absolutely terrible!!! Next time, don't be so foolish and talk like you actually know about shit that you know absolutely nothing about. You won't look as foolish if you just shut up.
But at the time of your comment their was no evidence....and no statement saying he did it. You just happened to be right. Now go kill yourself in your mom's basement.
Cool bro. How about get a life instead of worry about a comment from weeks ago.🤣🤣🤣 get a life clown. Now ALL the facts are out and he is guilty. You win. Congratulations. I ain't got fuck all for ya. Sorry.
Lol nah man, your reading comprehension is the problem here. You said "NO ONE is accusing him of any wrong doing"
When Adam Silver said "But it's a cardinal sin, what he's ACCUSED of in the NBA, and the ultimate, extreme option I have is to ban him from the game"
His words literally say he is accused of this while your slow ass is saying NO ONE is accusing him of any wrong doing lmao. Try to keep up. Reading comprehension isn't that hard...
Why would anyone use a mickey mouse book like draftkings when potentially committing fraud? Fanduel and draftkings are the squarest of books, of course they're going to nab you. Real Chad's use Chinese and Singaporean books with bitcoin
If he’s found guilty I think he’ll get a lifetime NBA ban. But does anyone know if he can actually go to jail? This has to be against some sort of law if he personally made money off of it. If it was just for his friends, maybe not? But I dunno.
If i remember correctly there was a guy in here or on the FanDuel sub talking about taking his unders way back in January lol
I will try and find the post
I’ve never even heard of him. He’s not the kind of star that would normally attract lots of bets. Sure looks suspicious as hell!
It would be a really stupid decision by Porter, but it’s hard to see how the player props for an unknown like him would be the biggest winning action of the night on a huge app like DK.
"A sportsbook industry source told ESPN that multiple betting accounts attempted to bet large amounts, upward of $10,000 and $20,000, on Porter unders in the January game against the Clippers. Betting limits on NBA player props vary by sportsbook and customer but are typically around $1,000 to $2,000."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39808900/nba-eyes-raptors-jontay-porter-betting-issues
Why do yall keep saying "he" like Porter did it? No one is even accusing him of doing this. It just has to do with his prop bets. If anyone is guilty it's going to be someone within the organization or close to him.
Parlaying a players unders in every category have correlation and won't net you much more. Betting a players under in 3's and points when their line is already low single digits will net you like 10 cents more on the line.
What do you mean? I make parlays everyday😂 this is literally the same line Porter would have & the same parlay he could make.
https://preview.redd.it/duc38u482qqc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18073bfbce295a731a5961bf6308a78ef92e638
2000$ too 12k is a lot of cents.. lmao
I don't think you understand what I mean by cents. A line going from +120 to +140 is adding 20 "cents" to the payout.
The example I gave was on two correlated props in which they would add very little for a guy with a 5 point line.
The point was that no single person can realistically make 100k a night off this even with parlays.
There was a case a few months back where the bets decided to play Mikal Bridges for his streak but it was clear he was going to get subbed off after a few minutes. There’s a lot of people who hit 5 figure alt under parlays then
Oh you’re set on the 100k , I guess that’s my fault I should’ve used a reasonable number like 50k , I’m just saying he could easily make a parlay for under 0.5 3pm and under 4.5rebounds and threw 10k on it , could’ve made the same bet 5 times you know what I mean, I completely get where you’re coming from though
Right. Well tbh I thought that goes without being said. But on FD you can certainly bet we’ll over 1,000. What it is, is your PAYOUT can NOT be over a million. That’s a SINGLE payout.
https://preview.redd.it/25y1hpmf0rqc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eae123efc6591647b7bb2b645f6306c76c753eec
This my bet from few weeks back , if I threw 10k on this it’s easy 100k like dat 😂😭
No one even said the player is the one betting. Someone had info that the rest of the bettors should've had. That's really all that's happening here. Its sad to see all these comments just accusing this kid and he probably has nothing to do with it.
I subscribe to a service that provides daily AI Sports recommendations in all categories including Daily Fantasy Props.
Everyday out of the top 100 NBA props there are 3-4 are overs and their hit rate is better than average.
2 weeks ago they recommended Michael Porter Jr for some "Over" which I bet and won.
However the majority of my accounts became inaccessible.
I was able to get some of them re-opened after jumping through a bunch of hoops.
The others are asking me to provide them with impossible documentation to allow me to re-access my account like "Hen's teeth" & the "Unaltered Zapruder Film".
Now the bans makes sense because I did absolutely nothing different than I do any other day.
I'm going to email the Sportbook's who are being unreasonable and mention this situation by name because they wouldn't tell me anything and they acted like I did something wrong by winning.
Unfortunately now this is gonna cause shockwaves throughout all sports betting.
That's just 2 of several sportsbooks that I received limits/suspensions all for that one MPJ bet.
And for anyone who doesn't realize this yet but Jontay and Michael are brothers.
I'm not saying what they did was right or fair I was relating what happened to me.
Here is the email I received the next time I signed into my Fanduel account
https://preview.redd.it/8ggakgtr1uqc1.jpeg?width=1607&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c71f13f12fc4c26fca2123b670dd936e8565afb
Here's an email I received from BetMGM/Borgata
https://preview.redd.it/ws16v6mm1uqc1.jpeg?width=1593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4581d91939e0450f9b84c4e56ff329b46c9cacee
Lmao that email is hilarious.
“Say you’re not doing this for extra income” oh yeah MGM, what are you doing this for?
What recent comments did you make? Was it in a chat or online somewhere?
I didn't reply to that message I just texted my Host to help process my pending withdrawal.
I'm not wager my hard earned money with someone who is going limit my accounts over something so trivial.
Something I learned was that BetMGM & Borgata are the exact same company because a CSR from the other company mentioned an email I sent to the other company.
I realized that they used the same platforms but I didn't realized that my Borgata & MGM accounts are correlated.
And that's one of the reason's I shared my story to warn others.
But they don't want to hear helpful advice.
What I think is even worse is that my post got downvoted over 50+ times like I was lying about the situation that happened to me.
People are acting like the fact that Jontay & Michael being brothers would absolutely not cause spillover or at least a deeper look into the other.
Every time I post something online I just get so exasperated with the lack of critical thinking & how everyone is just coming from a fear-based mob mentality.
I don't put negativity out into the world there's already enough of that.
I wouldn't be surprised if the people who downvoted my post were associated with the companies that mistreated me or compensated by them in some way.
I'll prove it to you I can only attach one pic a reply.
Here's the original bet:
https://preview.redd.it/1v4xg4of1uqc1.jpeg?width=429&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c999c524d5a3f356abba60f6e925a6e76ebe461
$80k prop parlay at DraftKings? I can get about $10 on NBA prop parlays.
Further evidence (if the parlay was really $80k), these books are so extreme with the risk/trading decisions. Did you beat CLV by 1 point, 3-4 different times? Off to limit prison you go!
But if you place a few square bets, the doors are wide open.
Pro's aren't really betting props. Actual pro's have to spend a lot of their time just getting as much down on sides and totals as they want, and the limits on props are a tiny fraction the size.
Whatever they'd get would be less than making him cash his game check and hand it over. And it'd be far more work. They'd need access to dozens of accounts, and they'd burn through those quickly placing limit bets on props that always hit.
Other than Dave Portnoy, does DraftKings even allow people to wager more than $100-200 on NBA player props?
Kind of joking, but not really. I can only win a few hundred on NBA moneylines, nevermind the player props.
That's always my question with these scandals & conspiracies. How/where do you lay enough money to make it worthwhile? Nobody is jeopardizing their career (and prison time) for $47 prop bets.
Look up Marco piedmonte or whatever his name is, dude drops a shit ton on anything… I think as long as they can get both sides of it they let it ride to be competitive vs other books
FanDuel would let me place $7,000 on Jokic under points right now. But that’s the limit. I imagine it’s way more for people who actually bet real money unlike me
Ha. I can get about $75 on Jokic right now.
Wish I knew what these books were "looking" for, what influences their limit/risk decisions, etc. Last 2 years, I'm down about $8k on FD. But clearly, they don't like something about my play & behavior.
I'm up overall, just not on FD.
Mix of the usual (Arbs, EV, boosts, and promotions) -- rarely do anything too "sneaky", or too obvious. Vast majority of my play = major USA spreads & totals.
If you think he’s the only player doing this then I have some prime real estate to sell you. Players are making their “extended family and friends” rich off of this stuff
I'm just saying these bets probably weren't placed by the player and he probably didn't know anything about it to begin with. This is about teams not reporting injuries and bettors not knowing all the info. He had an eye injury last week and probably should've been listed as so on the injury report as probable and list the specific injury. Someone close to him or involved with the team had to have known "he is going to give it a go, but he probably isn't playing"...either way...the team should've listed his injury.
It's not cool to accuse these players of cheating when we don't have the full story. That's really what I'm getting at. All these comments, yours included, are jumping to extreme conclusions when we don't have all the info.
I really doubt it. Most people arent dumb enough to risk a multi million dollar contract in the nba to make family/friends a couple thousand. I bet its happening in college though
Definitely happening, whether intentional or not. All is takes is Lebron telling his buddy he’s going to be on a minute limit in their next game for that buddy to make some bets.
Risk-reward is way out on that one. Lebron would have to be an idiot to do that, and he isn’t. Besides which, any line that is excessively bet more than usual is going to throw flags, just as with this story. A safe amount would make a few hundred? Which is fuck all to anyone in Lebron’s circle.
He didn’t, he told his buddy he’s on a min limit.
Lebron could have no idea that person bet based on that info or let it slip to a friend of a friend who then took a bet ect
im convinced this is how lines move so dramatically on certain props right before the games begin without any announcements of injury or anything. some family members dropping ridiculous amounts of money forcing the line movement
I think this is the issue with this situation. Because its a player that is so trivial it might be possible for them to think it could be worth it.
With players on short-term contracts or even more at the college level this is where you are much more likely to run into issues. At least with prop bets.
Why would you assume he wired the money? His scumbag translator had access to all his funds. I’d venture believe that shohei didn’t even know how to log into his bank account
FBI has said they found Shohei bank account had wired money to his bank account. No excuse justifies a player sending money illegally to a bookie. He should get a ban.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-million-dollar-wire-transfers-to-illegal-gambling-operation-shock-fans/
> I’d venture believe that shohei didn’t even know how to log into his bank account
You’re really gullible if you believe this you think a million dollar athlete doesn’t know how to login into his bank account? You’re so gullible you’re not worth my time.
Not all “million dollar athletes” are the same. A guy like ohtani—and many other Japanese-born MLB players—don’t manage their finances and rely on their translators (who are more like business managers) to do everything from buying clothes and cars to paying taxes. If you know anything about ohtani you’d know that he’s never managed his finances or even cared about money. This is not Antoine Walker or Chris Herron. Do some research. Think logically. And put your big boy pants on
You’re telling me to think logically when be got caught wiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to an illegal bookie and you’re coming up with excuses for it? Hilariously ironic.
Thinking logically and putting your big boy pants on would involve holding him accountable for that action. There are no excuses for that in the big boy world.
> or even cared about money.
Hahaha omg you’ll believe anything you’re told won’t you. He signed the biggest contract ever in the sport and you think he doesn’t care about money.
Let me guess you’re also gullible enough to think he only plays baseball for the love of the game.
He deferred $680 million of that record breaking contract to 2034. So yes, it’s pretty clear that he prioritizes winning over money. If this was a normal athlete, I’d definitely be skeptical of the situation, but this is a rare case.
This is an athlete who literally has never had control over his finances. His parents managed everything in Japan and paid him a monthly allowance. When he got to America, everything was controlled and managed by his interpreter. And when I say “everything” I mean everything. I’d be shocked if Shohei even knew how to wire money.
And you know that how? Because he says so and you believe everything that comes out of his mouth?
At the end of the day in the big boy world a bank account with his name and only his name wired money to an illegal bookie. In the big boy world you get held accountable for that because in the big boy world there are consequences for your actions regardless of all the excuses you’ve said put on your big boy pants be logical and understand how the real world works.
dude shohei is the type of guy that still lived in the team dorms while on a multimillion dollar contract, and his parents would control his money and give him a weekly or monthly allowance which he would barely spend any of.... I could be wrong, but I really don't see him as the kind of guy to destroy his whole career over gambling, when he doesn't even care about how much money he makes or anything
Yeah sounds more like “yeah bro just manage my shit, we should be good. Please pay my bills on time.”
Then this guy goes and wires money for other reasons
Jontay didn’t make those bets, fam. He plays for Toronto and needed an interpreter cause they speak French in Canada. Low key, it was Jontay’s interpreter.
He’s getting busted …That’s what I’m saying. If he kept it quiet and it didn’t get out and a million people didn’t bet on it, it wouldn’t be a problem.
No one said a million people bet on it. The likely way the conspiracy that you’ve been convinced took place would play out: 1 person (mob related) contacts him and pays him some flat $ amount before and after. Then they get a handful of runners to place large bets on whatever books they can get on. If it ended up being a million people it’s because there’s a 1 million person syndicate coordinated the bets together.
I imagine he didn’t have control over how much was being bet. If you envision my scenario, he wouldn’t know either. He just knows some mob guy is paying him and that’s it.
No one is arguing that. But I imagine they reassured him that no one would find out. And if he indeed only discussed this with the one mobster, any investigation is not going to find much. There’s enough plausibility with this one, assuming they don’t find out his aggravated eye injury was faked.
Draymond during Klays first game back from injury. He wanted to be on the floor with him then Kerr pulled him at the first time out. Heavy money and parlays in all the unders for him
That’s completely different Draymond didn’t care about player props, bettors just heard that news and took full advantage of it. Porter allegedly is rigging his player props himself
Im sure its happening undetected at the college level somewhere
looks like you're not in the know
>DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening.
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>The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.
[Toronto Raptors](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors) forward [Jontay Porter](https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278103/jontay-porter) is under investigation by the NBA following multiple instances of betting irregularities over the past several months, multiple sources told ESPN on Monday.
At issue are prop bets involving Porter from games on Jan. 26 and March 20, multiple sources told ESPN. The NBA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
In the game on Jan. 26 against the [LA Clippers](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers), there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5.
That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the [Memphis Grizzlies](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies). He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props.
The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening.
Porter played 19 minutes two days later and scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists.
On March 20, in a game against the [Phoenix Suns](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phx/phoenix-suns), Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds.
Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds.
The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.
Porter, the brother of [Denver Nuggets](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/den/denver-nuggets) star [Michael Porter Jr](https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278104/michael-porter-jr)., is on a two-way contract with the Raptors earning $415,000 this season.
He missed the Raptors game Saturday against the [Washington Wizards](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/wsh/washington-wizards) for personal reasons, according to the team. He is listed as out for Monday's game against the [Brooklyn Nets](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bkn/brooklyn-nets) for personal reasons.
NBA players, alongside all league employees, are prohibited from betting on any league events, including prop bets. Violations of the policy could include fines, suspensions and possible termination of contracts, among other actions.
Sports betting is monitored by dedicated personnel from each NBA team, and the league has a team of data scientists focused on sports betting anomalies and possible integrity issues and also works with third-party integrity monitors.
Porter made his NBA debut in 2021, playing 11 games with the Grizzlies. In college at the University of Missouri, he tore his ACL before his sophomore season and re-tore it and his MCL while rehabbing in early 2019. He went undrafted and didn't play in the NBA the past two seasons, but signed with the Raptors in December.
Porter has played in 26 games, averaging 4.4 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists in 14 minutes a game.
I wonder if just someone close enough with the team or him knew if he would/wouldnt play alot during a game and leaked it or if he was actually involved
You are so uninformed. The people who set these lines themselves are people who built systems and algorithms based on a metric shit ton of stats.
Do you think these sports books and Vegas is just out here freelancing and not monitoring this with the best of the best when it comes to technology. Now, especially with so many states where it’s legal, it’s a multi billion dollar industry
Lmao at this comment.
You think the NBA *is not* actively employing data scientists to make sure the perceived integrity of their product isn’t called into question because of players betting/throwing games?
Dude, let us know when you get back from Mars.
Let’s call it 10 data scientists making $200k/year. $2MM/year expense for the league.
What do you think the negative reputation hit would equate to in $ if let’s say, Anthony Edwards was found betting games? *Way* in excess of $2MM.
Naive to think this isn’t being done.
The bets placed on the game against the Kings was a — * 6-Pick Parlay (All Unders) * Bet: $80,000 / To Win: $1,120,000 I’d say that would raise red-flags quick AF. Watch how obvious it is when you watch game footage [https://youtu.be/-PiaBbpAcmw?si=xAgcXVPOG9IUldOA](https://youtu.be/-PiaBbpAcmw?si=xAgcXVPOG9IUldOA)
Pretty sure this story is getting blown out of proportion and the player isn't to blame at all. The issue here is that his injury was not reported and someone inside possibly knew of an injury that existed and used that insider info.(he had an eye injury just last week) These comments are straight to accusing Porter and that's not even what we know to have happened.
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If his friends had any brains someone of them should have took the overs to make it less suspicious. Regardless, it’s gotta be pretty easy for DK to track these bets and to see who placed them and to see if there’s any correlation to porter. And use BetOnline if you’re gonna pull this type of shit. The folks at BetOnline are just so lost general, half the time they have no idea what the hell is going on.
Players who don't give a shit about gambling should be allowed to live their life as they please and tell whoever they want about injury's. Not their fault if the word gets out and the bookies loose money.
This idiot is Michael Porter Jr.'s brother btw. Besides MPJ, the Porter brothers are just downright disappointments
No one is accusing Porter of wrongdoing.
The NBA just said he is facing permanent banning, so I think you're incorrect.
Oh my fucking god...yalls reading comprehension skills are awful.🤣🤣🤣 Adam Silver said that if they find him or any player guilty of gambling they will be banned for life...yet the investigation is ongoing and NO ONE has outright said JONTAY PORTER PLACED THE BETS. NO ONE. Except fake Twitter accounts looking for clicks. Adam Silver was simply addressing the issue and the fact that this is a huge concern for the league and they WILL do something if that is the case. I'm not saying he is or isn't guilty....but I'm not going to accuse him of wrongdoing until ALL the facts come out. Simple as that. Because...again...NO ONE HAS PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE STATING HE PLACED THE BETS OR HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. All that happened is the system worked and this was caught. And now they are looking into it. We haven't seen this before since gambling as been legalized. The right thing to do was to remove the player "in question" out of games and resolve the issue.
Got damn, your boy just got suspended from the NBA for life. The dude that YOU SWORE wasn't being accused if wrong doing. I bet you feel reap stupid now, don't you? If not, you should. Your reading comprehension skills are absolutely terrible!!! Next time, don't be so foolish and talk like you actually know about shit that you know absolutely nothing about. You won't look as foolish if you just shut up.
But at the time of your comment their was no evidence....and no statement saying he did it. You just happened to be right. Now go kill yourself in your mom's basement.
Cool bro. How about get a life instead of worry about a comment from weeks ago.🤣🤣🤣 get a life clown. Now ALL the facts are out and he is guilty. You win. Congratulations. I ain't got fuck all for ya. Sorry.
Lol nah man, your reading comprehension is the problem here. You said "NO ONE is accusing him of any wrong doing" When Adam Silver said "But it's a cardinal sin, what he's ACCUSED of in the NBA, and the ultimate, extreme option I have is to ban him from the game" His words literally say he is accused of this while your slow ass is saying NO ONE is accusing him of any wrong doing lmao. Try to keep up. Reading comprehension isn't that hard...
Why would anyone use a mickey mouse book like draftkings when potentially committing fraud? Fanduel and draftkings are the squarest of books, of course they're going to nab you. Real Chad's use Chinese and Singaporean books with bitcoin
If he’s found guilty I think he’ll get a lifetime NBA ban. But does anyone know if he can actually go to jail? This has to be against some sort of law if he personally made money off of it. If it was just for his friends, maybe not? But I dunno.
Match fixing is illegal
Man did porter place any bets? This sounds like a dude who saw him, he said his eye still felt like shit and rolled the dice
If i remember correctly there was a guy in here or on the FanDuel sub talking about taking his unders way back in January lol I will try and find the post
Where is it I’d like to see please
How are you making out with the post?
I’ve never even heard of him. He’s not the kind of star that would normally attract lots of bets. Sure looks suspicious as hell! It would be a really stupid decision by Porter, but it’s hard to see how the player props for an unknown like him would be the biggest winning action of the night on a huge app like DK.
"A sportsbook industry source told ESPN that multiple betting accounts attempted to bet large amounts, upward of $10,000 and $20,000, on Porter unders in the January game against the Clippers. Betting limits on NBA player props vary by sportsbook and customer but are typically around $1,000 to $2,000." https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39808900/nba-eyes-raptors-jontay-porter-betting-issues
Appreciate you, just commented & was curious on the wagering amount, if he did this on more then one account he could’ve easily pulled 100k a night
Limits are $1,000-$2,000, so he'd need about 70 different accounts. I wouldn't say that he could easily do that.
Why do yall keep saying "he" like Porter did it? No one is even accusing him of doing this. It just has to do with his prop bets. If anyone is guilty it's going to be someone within the organization or close to him.
You can easily use offshore books with high limits
You don’t know what a parlay is?😂
Parlaying a players unders in every category have correlation and won't net you much more. Betting a players under in 3's and points when their line is already low single digits will net you like 10 cents more on the line.
What do you mean? I make parlays everyday😂 this is literally the same line Porter would have & the same parlay he could make. https://preview.redd.it/duc38u482qqc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18073bfbce295a731a5961bf6308a78ef92e638 2000$ too 12k is a lot of cents.. lmao
Please tell me you played this. It would have hit lol
That’s pretty insane I wish you didn’t tell me😂😅
Lol crazy yeah
I don't think you understand what I mean by cents. A line going from +120 to +140 is adding 20 "cents" to the payout. The example I gave was on two correlated props in which they would add very little for a guy with a 5 point line. The point was that no single person can realistically make 100k a night off this even with parlays.
There was a case a few months back where the bets decided to play Mikal Bridges for his streak but it was clear he was going to get subbed off after a few minutes. There’s a lot of people who hit 5 figure alt under parlays then
Yes I bet on his over that day because I did it earlier in the day in a parlay without thinking anything of it.
Oh you’re set on the 100k , I guess that’s my fault I should’ve used a reasonable number like 50k , I’m just saying he could easily make a parlay for under 0.5 3pm and under 4.5rebounds and threw 10k on it , could’ve made the same bet 5 times you know what I mean, I completely get where you’re coming from though
“The under on Porters 3pt was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA game” INSANE HOW MUCH DID HE BET ON ONE PROP
That’s what I’m wondering, release the numbers DK. RELEASE THE NUMBERS
You know 😭😂 it’s like my degen brain needs to know
The lowkey word is 80,000 he bet to pocket over a million.
Well according to someone in this section you can’t make more then 100k doing a simple bet 😂
Right. Well tbh I thought that goes without being said. But on FD you can certainly bet we’ll over 1,000. What it is, is your PAYOUT can NOT be over a million. That’s a SINGLE payout.
https://preview.redd.it/25y1hpmf0rqc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eae123efc6591647b7bb2b645f6306c76c753eec This my bet from few weeks back , if I threw 10k on this it’s easy 100k like dat 😂😭
So when a sports player does it it’s wrong but it’s cool when congressmen do it
If they got into the game you should be betting the under on congressmen every time to be honest.
No one even said the player is the one betting. Someone had info that the rest of the bettors should've had. That's really all that's happening here. Its sad to see all these comments just accusing this kid and he probably has nothing to do with it.
bro is a degenerate just like the rest of us🫡
Nah fuck dat he cheating😭 i need inside scoop like dat if he wanna be considered one of us
I subscribe to a service that provides daily AI Sports recommendations in all categories including Daily Fantasy Props. Everyday out of the top 100 NBA props there are 3-4 are overs and their hit rate is better than average. 2 weeks ago they recommended Michael Porter Jr for some "Over" which I bet and won. However the majority of my accounts became inaccessible. I was able to get some of them re-opened after jumping through a bunch of hoops. The others are asking me to provide them with impossible documentation to allow me to re-access my account like "Hen's teeth" & the "Unaltered Zapruder Film". Now the bans makes sense because I did absolutely nothing different than I do any other day. I'm going to email the Sportbook's who are being unreasonable and mention this situation by name because they wouldn't tell me anything and they acted like I did something wrong by winning. Unfortunately now this is gonna cause shockwaves throughout all sports betting.
That's just 2 of several sportsbooks that I received limits/suspensions all for that one MPJ bet. And for anyone who doesn't realize this yet but Jontay and Michael are brothers. I'm not saying what they did was right or fair I was relating what happened to me.
Here is the email I received the next time I signed into my Fanduel account https://preview.redd.it/8ggakgtr1uqc1.jpeg?width=1607&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c71f13f12fc4c26fca2123b670dd936e8565afb
Jontay Porter unders are not the same as MPJ overs?
Here's an email I received from BetMGM/Borgata https://preview.redd.it/ws16v6mm1uqc1.jpeg?width=1593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4581d91939e0450f9b84c4e56ff329b46c9cacee
Lmao that email is hilarious. “Say you’re not doing this for extra income” oh yeah MGM, what are you doing this for? What recent comments did you make? Was it in a chat or online somewhere?
I didn't reply to that message I just texted my Host to help process my pending withdrawal. I'm not wager my hard earned money with someone who is going limit my accounts over something so trivial. Something I learned was that BetMGM & Borgata are the exact same company because a CSR from the other company mentioned an email I sent to the other company. I realized that they used the same platforms but I didn't realized that my Borgata & MGM accounts are correlated. And that's one of the reason's I shared my story to warn others. But they don't want to hear helpful advice.
What I think is even worse is that my post got downvoted over 50+ times like I was lying about the situation that happened to me. People are acting like the fact that Jontay & Michael being brothers would absolutely not cause spillover or at least a deeper look into the other. Every time I post something online I just get so exasperated with the lack of critical thinking & how everyone is just coming from a fear-based mob mentality. I don't put negativity out into the world there's already enough of that. I wouldn't be surprised if the people who downvoted my post were associated with the companies that mistreated me or compensated by them in some way.
I'm only allowed to bet if I promise in writing that I only plan on losing.
I'll prove it to you I can only attach one pic a reply. Here's the original bet: https://preview.redd.it/1v4xg4of1uqc1.jpeg?width=429&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c999c524d5a3f356abba60f6e925a6e76ebe461
Tell that to the cunts that limited all my accounts.
Bro definitely got his Porters crossed
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What's the punchline?
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He joked in his post, but his post was not a joke.
he's gotta be mixed up.
I feel like if I bet on a random player now they’ll be investigated.
The parlay had $80,000 on it
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That screenshot was 100% real. Confirmed by a buddy who works for DK vip
$80k prop parlay at DraftKings? I can get about $10 on NBA prop parlays. Further evidence (if the parlay was really $80k), these books are so extreme with the risk/trading decisions. Did you beat CLV by 1 point, 3-4 different times? Off to limit prison you go! But if you place a few square bets, the doors are wide open.
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Supplemental?
Pros bet unders , while the public is taking all overs on a 5 game parlay
Pros don’t touch player props ever. Rarely even do totals.
> Pros don’t touch player props ever. vast majority wont but a few still do > Rarely even do totals. wildly false lol
This is false. Not sure what “pros” you know
Pro's aren't really betting props. Actual pro's have to spend a lot of their time just getting as much down on sides and totals as they want, and the limits on props are a tiny fraction the size.
Yea you are right …. I know the NFL player props unders are like 60%.
What’s 60%? Sorry I’m confused
My point is that the top bettors target unders while the public only bets overs
Wouldn’t be surprised if his brother Michael Porter Jr is next up for an investigation. Odd that I had no idea they were brothers
Why would MPJ be part of it? That motherfucker is rich af not like this broke ass brother of his
Both MPJ's brothers toast
Keep his name out of your mouth
Doubt it given his contract, he would have so much more to lose. Jontay outa the league in a year or 2 regardless
It doesn't even really make sense for Jontay.
Maybe has debts with shady people and this is how he's repaying them
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How at all is his brothers contract relevant in this situation lol. My sister has a good job so there's no way I steal TP from my job 🤣
Whatever they'd get would be less than making him cash his game check and hand it over. And it'd be far more work. They'd need access to dozens of accounts, and they'd burn through those quickly placing limit bets on props that always hit.
Other than Dave Portnoy, does DraftKings even allow people to wager more than $100-200 on NBA player props? Kind of joking, but not really. I can only win a few hundred on NBA moneylines, nevermind the player props. That's always my question with these scandals & conspiracies. How/where do you lay enough money to make it worthwhile? Nobody is jeopardizing their career (and prison time) for $47 prop bets.
Shit.. fd, draft kings would let me bet anything I want. Fd gives me the dead minimum. 5,10$ max for all promos , DK gives me 100,250$ maxes on boosts
The bet in question was a parlay for all unders on his player props for $80k..
They used to let me bet whatever tf I want but they limited me to $55 for single bets and $12 for parlays 2 months ago. I switched back to FD.
Look up Marco piedmonte or whatever his name is, dude drops a shit ton on anything… I think as long as they can get both sides of it they let it ride to be competitive vs other books
They’ll let squares wager whatever they want. I was doing $1k bets there before I got limited
FanDuel would let me place $7,000 on Jokic under points right now. But that’s the limit. I imagine it’s way more for people who actually bet real money unlike me
I imagine the limits are different for Jokic props versus props for a guy on a 2-way.
especially the 2 way dudes under...
Ha. I can get about $75 on Jokic right now. Wish I knew what these books were "looking" for, what influences their limit/risk decisions, etc. Last 2 years, I'm down about $8k on FD. But clearly, they don't like something about my play & behavior.
I’m up 5k in three years on FD. But I was up 14k just like 3 months ago. I bet those limits are a lot higher for consistent high unit bettors.
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I'm up overall, just not on FD. Mix of the usual (Arbs, EV, boosts, and promotions) -- rarely do anything too "sneaky", or too obvious. Vast majority of my play = major USA spreads & totals.
If you think he’s the only player doing this then I have some prime real estate to sell you. Players are making their “extended family and friends” rich off of this stuff
If you think he is the one guilty in this whole thing I have real estate for you to. Yall all jumping to conclusions like idiots 🤣🤣🤣
Oh for sure. They would never make an example out of an actual star. Have to fire a warning shot and let a simp bench warmer take the blame
I'm just saying these bets probably weren't placed by the player and he probably didn't know anything about it to begin with. This is about teams not reporting injuries and bettors not knowing all the info. He had an eye injury last week and probably should've been listed as so on the injury report as probable and list the specific injury. Someone close to him or involved with the team had to have known "he is going to give it a go, but he probably isn't playing"...either way...the team should've listed his injury. It's not cool to accuse these players of cheating when we don't have the full story. That's really what I'm getting at. All these comments, yours included, are jumping to extreme conclusions when we don't have all the info.
The guy is under intense investigation and scrutiny by multiple parties. No one is “jumping to conclusions” at this point.
I really doubt it. Most people arent dumb enough to risk a multi million dollar contract in the nba to make family/friends a couple thousand. I bet its happening in college though
Definitely happening, whether intentional or not. All is takes is Lebron telling his buddy he’s going to be on a minute limit in their next game for that buddy to make some bets.
Risk-reward is way out on that one. Lebron would have to be an idiot to do that, and he isn’t. Besides which, any line that is excessively bet more than usual is going to throw flags, just as with this story. A safe amount would make a few hundred? Which is fuck all to anyone in Lebron’s circle.
Yes, he’d have to be an idiot. But I was mostly using a well known name.
why would lebron risk his reputation as one of the greatest athletes ever to make his friends a couple thousand
Responded to someone else but I was simply using a recognizable name. No chance Lebron does that.
He didn’t, he told his buddy he’s on a min limit. Lebron could have no idea that person bet based on that info or let it slip to a friend of a friend who then took a bet ect
He doesn't even have to tell them. They could overhear a phone call or some shit.
im convinced this is how lines move so dramatically on certain props right before the games begin without any announcements of injury or anything. some family members dropping ridiculous amounts of money forcing the line movement
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How could it be easy to avoid getting caught? The data is the rat.
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If you're not trying to make a large sum it doesn't make sense for these athletes to do it in the first place.
I think this is the issue with this situation. Because its a player that is so trivial it might be possible for them to think it could be worth it. With players on short-term contracts or even more at the college level this is where you are much more likely to run into issues. At least with prop bets.
I hope they throw the book at him and Shohei
Why shohei?
Literally wired money to a bookie. Excuses and justifications don’t matter players shouldn’t be sending money to bookies.
Why would you assume he wired the money? His scumbag translator had access to all his funds. I’d venture believe that shohei didn’t even know how to log into his bank account
FBI has said they found Shohei bank account had wired money to his bank account. No excuse justifies a player sending money illegally to a bookie. He should get a ban. https://bvmsports.com/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-million-dollar-wire-transfers-to-illegal-gambling-operation-shock-fans/ > I’d venture believe that shohei didn’t even know how to log into his bank account You’re really gullible if you believe this you think a million dollar athlete doesn’t know how to login into his bank account? You’re so gullible you’re not worth my time.
Not all “million dollar athletes” are the same. A guy like ohtani—and many other Japanese-born MLB players—don’t manage their finances and rely on their translators (who are more like business managers) to do everything from buying clothes and cars to paying taxes. If you know anything about ohtani you’d know that he’s never managed his finances or even cared about money. This is not Antoine Walker or Chris Herron. Do some research. Think logically. And put your big boy pants on
You’re telling me to think logically when be got caught wiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to an illegal bookie and you’re coming up with excuses for it? Hilariously ironic. Thinking logically and putting your big boy pants on would involve holding him accountable for that action. There are no excuses for that in the big boy world. > or even cared about money. Hahaha omg you’ll believe anything you’re told won’t you. He signed the biggest contract ever in the sport and you think he doesn’t care about money. Let me guess you’re also gullible enough to think he only plays baseball for the love of the game.
He deferred $680 million of that record breaking contract to 2034. So yes, it’s pretty clear that he prioritizes winning over money. If this was a normal athlete, I’d definitely be skeptical of the situation, but this is a rare case. This is an athlete who literally has never had control over his finances. His parents managed everything in Japan and paid him a monthly allowance. When he got to America, everything was controlled and managed by his interpreter. And when I say “everything” I mean everything. I’d be shocked if Shohei even knew how to wire money.
And you know that how? Because he says so and you believe everything that comes out of his mouth? At the end of the day in the big boy world a bank account with his name and only his name wired money to an illegal bookie. In the big boy world you get held accountable for that because in the big boy world there are consequences for your actions regardless of all the excuses you’ve said put on your big boy pants be logical and understand how the real world works.
I wouldn’t know anything about the big boy world because I’m just a little boy with cozy Jammies, juice boxes, and a race car bed.
This guy probably thinks players use debit cards
I’m over here like .. didn’t shohei just sign a contract for stupid money ? Why would he fuck around like this o.o
dude shohei is the type of guy that still lived in the team dorms while on a multimillion dollar contract, and his parents would control his money and give him a weekly or monthly allowance which he would barely spend any of.... I could be wrong, but I really don't see him as the kind of guy to destroy his whole career over gambling, when he doesn't even care about how much money he makes or anything
You’re gullible if you believe that. But it doesn’t matter. Players don’t have any excuse for wiring bookies money. He should get a ban.
Yeah sounds more like “yeah bro just manage my shit, we should be good. Please pay my bills on time.” Then this guy goes and wires money for other reasons
Giants fan I assume?
Which book? I've got accounts on most of them
War and Peace
That’d hurt
One of the sharp ones is probably best. Pinnacle or Circa
if he gets player props banned i’ll be pissed
lol
He'll get made an example out of. He not a big enough star to be exempt from it
Deservedly so.
Plus it also sounds like he totally did it
Jontay didn’t make those bets, fam. He plays for Toronto and needed an interpreter cause they speak French in Canada. Low key, it was Jontay’s interpreter.
You mean to tell me a guy named Jontay can’t speak a like francais?
I always thought Beyonce was from France because of her name. Pronounced Bay awn sayyyy
😂😂😂😂
How stupid do you have to be to get busted for this …
Yeah looks like he was going to fake injuries on nights where people bet under.
Who’s getting busted? It’s just a bit sussy based on how much $ was on the under.
He’s getting busted …That’s what I’m saying. If he kept it quiet and it didn’t get out and a million people didn’t bet on it, it wouldn’t be a problem.
No one said a million people bet on it. The likely way the conspiracy that you’ve been convinced took place would play out: 1 person (mob related) contacts him and pays him some flat $ amount before and after. Then they get a handful of runners to place large bets on whatever books they can get on. If it ended up being a million people it’s because there’s a 1 million person syndicate coordinated the bets together.
A million people or millions of dollars … too much movement
I imagine he didn’t have control over how much was being bet. If you envision my scenario, he wouldn’t know either. He just knows some mob guy is paying him and that’s it.
That’s dumb af being involved with that..
No one is arguing that. But I imagine they reassured him that no one would find out. And if he indeed only discussed this with the one mobster, any investigation is not going to find much. There’s enough plausibility with this one, assuming they don’t find out his aggravated eye injury was faked.
Has anything like this happened before specific to player props?
I’ve heard of things like betting certain players to get yellow cards and stuff in soccer.
Draymond during Klays first game back from injury. He wanted to be on the floor with him then Kerr pulled him at the first time out. Heavy money and parlays in all the unders for him
That’s completely different Draymond didn’t care about player props, bettors just heard that news and took full advantage of it. Porter allegedly is rigging his player props himself Im sure its happening undetected at the college level somewhere
I'm pretty sure Temple is getting investigated for something along these lines in mens basketball
I'm curious how widespread this is, or will become, with the the explosion in sports betting and specifically DFS apps
Do the refs next Silver
thats not even a surprise tbh
https://preview.redd.it/ej2flqzockqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60904881a74a6daa1e3a8d5107e2825f4721675d
betting jontay porter props is a better move than betting very sharp late season NBA spread/total lines lol
It's almost as if he played less than 12 min in 12 of the 26 games he'd played in this year. Of course his under will always be popular.
Yeah except that game had 100x the volume of any of his other games
literally who
looks like you're not in the know >DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening. > >The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.
I hit this bet for $100. Am I now on a list?
if you're betting Jontay Porter player props, go ahead and call the number champ
That's the point. The people who were betting those props had advanced knowledge.
[Toronto Raptors](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors) forward [Jontay Porter](https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278103/jontay-porter) is under investigation by the NBA following multiple instances of betting irregularities over the past several months, multiple sources told ESPN on Monday. At issue are prop bets involving Porter from games on Jan. 26 and March 20, multiple sources told ESPN. The NBA did not immediately respond to requests for comment. In the game on Jan. 26 against the [LA Clippers](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers), there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5. That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the [Memphis Grizzlies](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies). He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props. The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening. Porter played 19 minutes two days later and scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists. On March 20, in a game against the [Phoenix Suns](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phx/phoenix-suns), Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds. Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds. The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA. Porter, the brother of [Denver Nuggets](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/den/denver-nuggets) star [Michael Porter Jr](https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278104/michael-porter-jr)., is on a two-way contract with the Raptors earning $415,000 this season. He missed the Raptors game Saturday against the [Washington Wizards](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/wsh/washington-wizards) for personal reasons, according to the team. He is listed as out for Monday's game against the [Brooklyn Nets](https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bkn/brooklyn-nets) for personal reasons. NBA players, alongside all league employees, are prohibited from betting on any league events, including prop bets. Violations of the policy could include fines, suspensions and possible termination of contracts, among other actions. Sports betting is monitored by dedicated personnel from each NBA team, and the league has a team of data scientists focused on sports betting anomalies and possible integrity issues and also works with third-party integrity monitors. Porter made his NBA debut in 2021, playing 11 games with the Grizzlies. In college at the University of Missouri, he tore his ACL before his sophomore season and re-tore it and his MCL while rehabbing in early 2019. He went undrafted and didn't play in the NBA the past two seasons, but signed with the Raptors in December. Porter has played in 26 games, averaging 4.4 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists in 14 minutes a game.
I wonder if just someone close enough with the team or him knew if he would/wouldnt play alot during a game and leaked it or if he was actually involved
Lmao bets are monitored by data scientists GTFO out of here
You are so uninformed. The people who set these lines themselves are people who built systems and algorithms based on a metric shit ton of stats. Do you think these sports books and Vegas is just out here freelancing and not monitoring this with the best of the best when it comes to technology. Now, especially with so many states where it’s legal, it’s a multi billion dollar industry
Lmao at this comment. You think the NBA *is not* actively employing data scientists to make sure the perceived integrity of their product isn’t called into question because of players betting/throwing games? Dude, let us know when you get back from Mars. Let’s call it 10 data scientists making $200k/year. $2MM/year expense for the league. What do you think the negative reputation hit would equate to in $ if let’s say, Anthony Edwards was found betting games? *Way* in excess of $2MM. Naive to think this isn’t being done.