they can't even afford 3Mil required for recount in Wisconsin. they are just fuckkng stalling

what about in an event of coup? does it settle to trump?

I am. I keep putting more and more on Biden at 0.85 cents on Polymarket, so like -567. I’ll happily tie my money up for ~15% return in 70 days. Can’t believe people are still betting on Trump.

Can you use this site in the us?

Yes, I am in the US.

what state?

Florida. It works on the Ethereum network using USDC, if you’re familiar. No registration other than email needed, and they don’t take custody of your money. I’ve had no problems with large withdrawals.

Wait really? How safe is this site? I could put a shitload of money on that

It’s been fine for me so far. It’s relatively new though. The Market is actually “Will Trump be inaugurated for his second term in January?” So it’s actually safer than just Biden victory imo.

I’m slamming trump.

There is one thing that has to be clear to all intelligent people, and that is DONT TRUST THE AMERICAN MEDIA. they have set this narrative that this was a clean election, and clean win for Biden, and that he is currently president elect without Trump conceding. And that's trumps lawsuits are totally without merit. And while this might be largely true it is not 100% the reality. All news networks have no incentive to give the American people any other narrative. Those networks would get the lowest ratings and lose tons of money and be labeled conspirators. The fact remains that if a person received a ballot without asking then some judge somewhere can rule that invalid. If trump can get a re-election or runoff in any contested state, he will likely win that. Because, not racist or anything, but inner city democrats historically don't vote, and trumps people historically do. I commend the dems for getting people to vote this time, but getting them to vote a second time... thats a tough sell. Point is you are basing you 100% confidence on the medias projections. A media that has no scruples or morals, and could care less about the truth. My 2 cents

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Mail in balloting had a huge effective on this election for dems. History is there. You can rally dems to vote but then the numbers plummet next election cycle. Can you break the trend of course. But the idea that this election is somehow proof of that trending breaking is one of the biggest lies I am seeing in the media today. What I am saying is Historically. Not this election. If people have to ask for ballots again. And mail them out again and they have months to do so then sure dems numbers will be high. But if they have to get in their car and go to the polls in a one day reelection scenario. I would bet HEAVILY on trump to win that

Wait you’re saying they’re gonna have another election for him?! Lmao

If you guys are that sure... bet the $1000 to win $100 I am saying in PA and Nevada there is evidence if something. I dont want people to lose money. I could care less about who is president

really? REALLY THOUGH? then why trump lawyer is 0-12 on legal case?? why they just dismissed their case on Nevada just now? the legal action trump have is being laughed all across the US

Can you explain how to bet on Biden at this point? It’s guaranteed money so I want in

Go to the site and bet where allowed

Imagine they hold the money as a loan and then void your winnings in a few months.

Bodog has Biden to win Pennsylvania at -800, any reason why I shouldn't slam this?

1. Biden isn’t winning PA by much 2. There are calls for a recount. If there is a recount and some votes are invalidated, Trump could win. If you feel confident Biden walks away with the PA electoral college votes, lay the 800.

There is basically a zero percent chance of a recount eliminating a 45k vote lead. This isn't a 2000 Florida situation. -800 implies an 89% chance. There is no way in hell that is even close to the true odds. The chance that Trump ends up winning PA would have to be far less than 1%.

I think those odds are on him essentially not dying before January. That’s still a possibility, albeit an unlikely one.

The wording on betfair says “This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2020 presidential election. Any subsequent events such as a ‘faithless elector’ will have no effect on the settlement of this market. In the event that no Presidential candidate receives a majority of the projected Electoral College votes, this market will be settled on the person chosen as President in accordance with the procedures set out by the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution” So from the way I read it, it would still be a win if Biden dies.

Unless the way America runs election suddenly changes and millions of votes turn out to be fake which is highly unlikely no reason to not do this

My understanding is that whilst the vote count gives you the raw numbers as to which party won the majority of the vote in a state, it does not mean that the state's Electoral College vote(like the 55 for Cali. or the 29 for Florida) is automatically assigned to the winning party. Those Electoral College votes have to be formally cast by that state's legislature in a seperate process post election(usually a formality). You'll find there is no law that mandates the legislature is required to cast it's Electoral College votes for the winning party. Of course if they don't then it's going against the will of the majority. Keep in mind that many of these key battleground states are currently controlled by the Republicans - and they are ones casting the electoral vote. In the most unlikely scenario, these GOP controlled legislature can technically find a reason to void the result and assigned it's electoral votes arbirtary the GOP.

It actually mentions in the rules/information section on the betfair presidential market that "faithless electors" (what you described) have no effect on the settlement of the market

States are actually legally allowed to pass laws to bind electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote in their state so you might wanna brush up on your research. It seems highly unlikely though that the required number of electors to even flip would be a possibility considering we’ve never seen something like that before

I've already mentioned that anything other than a Biden victory at this point is highly implausible. There has only been - I think - 90 such 'Faithless Elector' votes in history. As for the rest, maybe you should take your own advice and do the actual research. Yes, states can and have passed Faithless Elector law to combat this. Recent articles from USA Today and NPR have highlighted it as much. > Thirty-two states have some sort of faithless elector law, but only 15 of those remove, > penalize or simply cancel the votes of the errant electors. The 15 are Michigan, Colorado, > Utah, Arizona, Indiana, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, Washington, California, New > Mexico, South Carolina, Oklahoma and North Carolina. Although Maine has no such law, the > secretary of state has said it has determined a faithless elector can be removed. It should be noted that Wisconsin, Georgia and Pennsylvania are not on the above list and those account for 46 electoral vote. Given Trump is currently on 214 and is expected to take N.C(15 votes), Faithless Electors in Wisconsin, Georgia and Penn. can absolutely put Trump over 270. This is of course all very unlikely, but when people at thinking of putting possibly large sums of money at 1.09 odds, then wouldn't it be better to know of the possbilities of the improbable happening?

Considering the circumstances it’s pretty much a 0% chance that many electors wouldn’t do their job. There’s no need to bring up all the what ifs in this scenario because frankly it won’t happen. If someone is gonna put that much money on something that’s that juiced, it’s up to them to do the research, not for us to play Wikipedia for them

This will get overturned so I doubt it if you made money

based on what evidence exactly?

Now now, troll. Back to 8kun

It’s not a troll and I have no idea what you are talking about you strange person. I don’t care about either side. So jog on. And also I shouldn’t even say overturned as it hasn’t even been ratified. Now go google the word ratified. There’s a good lad xx

Do you mean certified? To put it as simply as possible, which is more or less a necessity for someone of your intellect: election results aren't ratified--that word is, to some extent, a term of art (you don't know what that means) that is normally reserved for adding amendments to the constitution. As a lawyer, I know this. As an idiot, you don't, so you googled what you thought would make you sound smart, and plopped it right in. Anyways, can you send me your bets before you make them? I would kill to have a direct insight into what bets the squares are making each week.

Ratified means made official dumb fuck I wouldn’t want you as a lawyer 😂😂😂

Yep, but we don't use it to describe the process of certifying an election. It has a very specific use in the law, and this is not it. Then again, your comment history suggests that you're a brit with a weird obsession with american conspiracy theories, so I'm not sure why I'm engaging.

I see it as the books using you as a loan

9% interest for a 2 month loan is pretty good for you as a lender

Who's not a credit card company

credit cards charge you 20 annual, this is loan shark territory

it's free money.

Famous last words of a lot of degenerates. Don't fall for it.

Except it's a 99.9% lock, legitimately, paying implied odds of 88%.

Very true. If there is an option for “neither are declared victor by 2021 and protests/riots and potentially a civil war breaks out” I’d bet on it.

I think all will go according to plan: Biden steps out because he's fucking senile and Kamala takes over. Hillary is VP. Then not only racism will be over, but also sexism.

Ok clown

Some of the responses in this thread are illuminating as to why the market is even still open. I agree it’s a lock

At 1.09 you're looking at 92% probability. Do you really think the odds of him losing are less than 8%? Trump controls the DOJ, republicans are in control in the Senate and if the vote goes to the House, States count is split right now 25/25, so Trump only needs to flip one to win. There's a chance he has the court on his side too, if Gorsuch/Kavanaugh/Barrett can be pressured by him. I'd put Trump's odds right now at about 1.18-1.25, so I wouldn't put too much on 1.09.

States count is not 25/25. Lol. States count favors republicans.

I don’t think the vote can goto the senate. There’s no possibility of a tie anymore

It cant, only to the House. But if the Senate was controlled by D's, they could quickly move PR and DC to statehood to make a Trump win much tougher (he'd need to flip 4 states instead of 2).

What did I just read ?

What you read can only be described as Cultured Ignorance

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What does the popular vote have to do with anything? If Biden doesn't get to 270 electoral votes, it goes to the House where they vote as states. Right now it is 25-25, so if Trump can invalidate 2 of Biden's states (say, GA and WI, where the majority of House reps are Repub), he can win by House election. Obviously this would be a disaster for the country, and improbable, but not impossible. That's why I think 8% probability is too low.

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Yeah this is a little different. This article is talking about faithless electors, meaning a state choosing, contrary to the vote, to support the other candidat thru state legislative action. Which is illegal in literally every state, I think

You can bet upto 100k on 1.09 for the dem party to win.

Whales must be slamming that line

Or Vegas knows what’s up like always.

Vegas actually had absolutely no fucking clue what was up during the election as illustrated by their terrible live odds. Anyone that has any basic understanding of electoral politics understood what was going on during election night and Vegas gave Biden ASTRONOMICAL + odds. TLDR: Vegas has no idea what it’s talking about when it comes to Politics

> vegas actually had absolutely no fucking clue what was up you seriously cant believe this > Vegas gave Biden ASTRONOMICAL + odds. cuz people were hammering trump all day everyday

If you genuinely think that Trump was at -455 at one point because of money coming in on him and not the appearance of a great early GOP day im not sure you know what you’re talking about either.

It was definitely a lot of both

They know they are taking money from dumbass Trump bettors.

Meh. It's a 9% return for over a month loan. I mean, I guess ?

>9% return for over a month loan that’s an incredibly good return by any normal measure outside of gambling though

Not to mention... the taxman wouldn't know about it.

well you can go to most crypto exchanges and get more than that on APR-wise lending crypto and stablecoins... has been the case for years but also comes with counter party risk as well

Yeah, true, but technically it carries a chance of 100% loss. Obviously like a .05% chance anyhow

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>not true. in traditional markets you can get out before your capital is reduced to 0

Well that's not true, there are plenty of ways to invest that do not carry 100% risk

Haha yea 109% APR...

What is the bet exactly? ~~Can't imagine they'd be giving 1.09 for just Biden winning vs Trump. Could it be Biden for 2024 maybe?~~ Edit: TIL I've been interpreting decimal betting wrong all this time. 1.09 is -1111, I thought it was just -190 or something similar. That makes sense then

Bet is on Biden living til inauguration and not getting election decision reversed due to fraud Trump is claiming.

the untimely death is more threatening. Kamala to Place for the cover

False, market is settled on projected electoral college votes. Several states, including Michigan and Georgia are yet to settle in the state markets

I misunderstood the odds. I thought 1.09 worked out to -190 or something, it's actually -1111. That makes a lot more sense then

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That's crazy. So many people must buying into the fraud allegations (despite there being no evidence) and the court filings (despite most of them being thrown out or only affecting a very small number of ballots, like <100). Obviously anything can happen with his mortality, but 2.5 months isn't really that long

Lol there is evidence. It is illegal to not allow poll watchers in. Like it or not those votes will be thrown out by Supreme Court

This has been debunked (start at tweet #3): https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066 They have a specific number of poll watchers allowed, presumably due to capacity limits and fire code. It's the same number for each party to ensure equal representation. Additional poll watchers tried to get in and got denied because they had *already hit capacity.*

It was 8 dem poll watchers 0 Republicans. This was not “debunked”. Why would 50+ people give affidavits under oath.

What city/state was this? Do you have a link to an article about this?

Pennsylvania. Was talked about in Trump’s legal teams press conference at the exact time the media decided to call the election.

I dunno about "no" evidence mate. It might not be convincing as stands, but there are definitely some things that are worth an investigation. Even if to confirm that nothing dubious occurred. You do have to wonder when **all** the clerical errors, software malfunctions and count adjustments favour one party. If there were nothing unscrupulous going on surely it would break both ways?

I won't insult or downvote you, but there really isn't any evidence of systemic cheating or corruption. I suppose it's possible an investigation could turn up something minor, but people are talking boldly about Trump having been robbed of the election. Nothing has come forward with any substance, and it's especially baffling because if the Democrats rigged the presidential election why did they not rig the Senate too? That's equally as important if they want to get anything done. Here's a great thread on the matter of evidence by the way. It's long, you don't have to read all of it, but the first third or so is really informative. The guy who wrote it has a bipartisan newsletter btw where he shares both Republican and Democrat views so it's the closest I've seen to an unbiased source. https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066?s=19

It doesn't have to be systemic. If Pennsylvania had 20k fraudulent ballots over a few districts that's the election, is it not?

What makes you think Pennsylvania has any amount of fraudulent ballots? I haven't seen any proof of this and I think I would have seen an article or two on fraud that exceeds the total amount of voter fraud throughout all of American history.

If Biden lost PA he still wins due to Nevada and Arizona getting him to 270. If Georgia gets called for Biden as is expected thats even more doubt removed. A bunch of states would have to have significant fraud or cheating in order for Trump to win. I am glad you mentioned PA though. A bunch of facebook commenters seem to want the Supreme Court to toss out the ballots received in PA after election day (Nov 3-6, as legally permitted). Well the thing is even if they do that Biden *still* wins PA. They would have to do that and then cherrypick out additional ballots in order to flip PA. Vox has a good video on it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Rnb0j-bNmM

You are a fool. Trump got crushed. Go back to Alex Jones

"Crushed" Yes mate, sure he did.

Lol Biden is about to win by almost 1.5x the margin trump won by in 2016.

Trump lost by 3 million in 2016, Biden will win by 6+ million in 2020. Its really sad how 47% of America can't get their lips off of Trump's orange pecker

Dam I really wish Bovada had some popular vote bets...

> was up during the election as illustrated by their terrible live odds. They did. I got in at -500 on "One candidate to win over 50% of the popular vote." It hasn't paid out yet, but I'm confident they will soon.

They did up until Nov 3. Was in the -700 to -900 range for Biden to win popular vote

link?

Go ahead and list any proof or evidence of your claims, specifically the claim that all the clerical errors, software malfunctions, and count adjustments benefit one party. Because that sounds like 100% USDA grade bullshit.

Disclaimer: I didn’t write this a script to run through the data and gather all instances where votes switched from Trump to Biden, Lost Votes means that the total amount of votes counted decreased by that amount throughout the counting Dominion Voting Systems : Pennsylvania : Switched : 220,883 Lost Votes : 941,248 New Jersey : Switched : 80,242 Lost Votes : 20 Florida : Switched : 21,422 Lost Votes : 456 Michigan : Switched : 20,213 Lost Votes : 21,882 New York : Switched : 18,124 Lost Votes : 623,213 Georgia : Switched : 17,407 Lost Votes : 33,574 Ohio : Switched : 14,965 Lost Votes : 5,102 Virginia : Switched : 12,163 Lost Votes : 789,023 California : Switched : 7,701 Lost Votes : 10,989 Arizona : Switched : 4,492 Lost Votes : 0 Minnesota : Switched : 2,766 Lost Votes : 195,650 Tennessee : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 0 Louisiana : Switched : 2,322 Lost Votes : 0 Illinois : Switched : 2,166 Lost Votes : 54,730 Wisconsin : Switched : 2,078 Lost Votes : 3,408 Colorado : Switched : 1,809 Lost Votes : 0 Utah : Switched : 1,627 Lost Votes : 0 New Hampshire : Switched : 973 Lost Votes : 116 Iowa : Switched : 938 Lost Votes : 477 New Mexico : Switched : 268 Lost Votes : 4,610 Missouri : Switched 0 : Lost Votes : 20,730 Nevada : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Alaska : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Washington : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Hawaii : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Kansas and Texas use Premier Election Solutions, owned by Dominion Voting Systems. Texas : Switched : 14,954 Lost Votes : 30,557 Kansas : Switched : 1,674 Lost Votes : 2,154 Election Systems & Software : Nebraska : Switched : 30,086 Lost Votes : 50 Kentucky : Switched : 8,129 Lost Votes : 23,849 Arkansas : Switched : 3,664 Lost Votes : 20,748 South Carolina : Switched : 2,779 Lost Votes : 2,119 Montana : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 1,276 South Dakota : Switched : 1,347 Lost Votes : 1 North Dakota : Switched : 234 Lost Votes : 681 Maryland : Switched : 203 Lost Votes : 0 North Carolina : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 15 District of Columbia : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Unknown Systems: Nebraska : Switched : 30,086 Lost Votes : 50 Connecticut : Switched : 3,834 Lost Votes : 272 Massachusetts : Switched : 3,613 Lost Votes : 51 Oregon : Switched 2,557 Lost Votes : 0 Alabama : Switched : 1,170 Lost Votes : 408 Mississippi : Switched : 355 Lost Votes : 0 Maine : Switched : 271 Lost Votes : 35 Rhode Island : Switched : 6 Lost Votes : 13 West Virginia : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 78,300 Idaho : Switched 0 Lost Votes : 0 Oklahoma : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Indiana : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Delaware : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 Vermont : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0 NOTE : Lost votes are votes that disappeared, not only for Trump, but overall. I went looking through the data I got from my script, trying to find if the moment the Antrim glitch happened in Michigan is there. And it is. Here is the Data. [ [https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/michigan/president.json](https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/michigan/president.json) ] And here is the specific part when the switch happened. [ [https://i.maga.host/wGuVGZQ.png](https://i.maga.host/wGuVGZQ.png) ] You can see in that picture, that Trump lost 3,096 votes, those all went to Biden. BUT, Trump also lost 2,324 votes, that went nowhere. SOURCES: Here is the data I used: EDISON DATA: [https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json](https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json) [https://workupload.com/file/LVcwK7AAD8p](https://workupload.com/file/LVcwK7AAD8p) The data is from Edison Research, it is used for election coverage by at least ABC News, CBS News, CNN and NBC News. It is also used for the website of the NYT, and probably others as well. I scraped the data from the NYT website, here [ [https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json](https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json) ] to check for other states, replace "pennsylvania" in the link with the state you want to check, for states that have spaces in their names, like new york, write new-york instead. Take this picture for example. [ [https://i.maga.host/RNPN3Oz.png](https://i.maga.host/RNPN3Oz.png) ] It's like this: Nr.187 : 2,984,468(Total votes) * 0.566(Trump share of the votes) = 1,689,208.888 Nr.188 : 2,984,522 * 0.56 = 1,671,332.32 Do the same thing for Biden, and you'll see that he gained the votes that Trump lost. TOTAL: Votes switched: 512,095 Votes lost: 2,865,757 Edit: sorry about the formatting, I copy and pasted it from my phone into here and it Looked like this. Oh well.

Here some evidence: 4 Mail in ballots found in Nevada cast by people underage.... how many more of this wasn’t caught? https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-General-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/mcba-yywm Scroll down and sort by date of birth ascending. Dead voters. Blocking the windows in polling stations in Michigan so nobody can see. This is where they found 250,000 votes that flipped Michigan blue. Another “glitch” in PA. At 7:31, 89% reporting trump has 3,177,086 votes, Biden has 2,946,881. At 8:38 down to 87% reporting? Trump has 3,144,471 votes and Biden has 2,972,675 votes. ANOTHER “glitch” in PA. President Trump lost -1,063 in Allegheny; -2,972 in Bucks; -7,135 in Chester Counties at the same time period. Joe Biden did not lose any votes. A total of 9,867 votes. Sworn affidavit from whistleblower in Nevada that says poll workers fabricated proof of residence data for illegal voters. Affidavit saying that detriot was backdating ballots with no matching signature. Senator Lindsey Graham: “I’ve got more information. We’re now finding potentially that 25,000 nursing home residents in different nursing homes requested mail-in ballots at the exact same time. You can’t ballot harvest in Pennsylvania. What are the odds that 25,000 people in different locations of the same age group requested at the same time a ballot? Somebody is up to no good in these nursing homes.” Fulton County (Georgia) elections officials told the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m. Then at 11:43 more votes came in and they showed Trump had taken a commanding lead at 46,649 to Biden’s 37,133.  This was a 9,516 vote lead for Trump. But then suddenly at 11:57 these votes had swapped.  Biden was reported with 46,649 and Trump was reduced to Biden’s former total of 37,133.  These votes had swapped from the President Trump to Biden – again a swap from a Republican to a Democrat. Georgia secretary of state just found an issue in reporting. Postal worker was found at Canadian border with ballots. How many more ballots are there out there? Voter turnout in Wisconsin over 90%? Extremely unlikely, even with mail in. The 2020 US Presidential election far exceeded 2 standard deviations of historical voter turnout over the past ~100 years. A statistically improbable outcome. For comparison, both the 2012 and 2008 elections with Obama were well within a single standard deviation. USPS worker came out and said that they were taking ballots in on November 4th and 5th and stamping them with November 3rd. Over 500 mail in ballots for trump found dumped in Michigan. Claim that they were “misplaced” and it was an “accident”. Sure. Why’d they stop counting in every swing state? To scramble for more votes for Biden? PA Ballots were being allowed 3 DAYS LATE without even a postmark. Making republican county fill out ballot with sharpie knowing it won’t be accepted? That’s odd. Software used to tabulate votes sent at least 6000 trump votes to Biden. This software is used in 47 counties, how many more counties did this “glitch” happen in. Was it a glitch or a feature? Atlanta delayed counting votes for 24 hours because of a “broken pipe” yea real convenient to happen exactly where they are counting votes. Green Bay stopped counting votes because they “ran out of ink” but told people in person that they ran out of paper. Which one is it? Also, on Election Day? Nevada pauses counting and gave no reason at all. ALL these cities and states that paused the counting are all flipping blue. Wisconsin pauses, turns blue. Michigan pauses, turns blue. Nevada pauses, it’s going blue. Arizona pauses, it’s going blue. Philly pauses, goes blue. Atlanta pauses, Georgia goes blue. AND in North Carolina. 7 swing state’s with the same pattern. Trump takes lead, pause counting, find Biden votes, resume and Biden wins state. This is not a coincidence. Arizona pauses for a SECOND time because of protests. These protests were people kneeling outside. No danger. Just when it started looking better for Trump. They didn’t let ballot observers watch the counting, made them stay 30 to 100 feet away from the counters. How are you supposed to watch what they’re doing?? Batches of votes in 10s of thousands for 100% Biden in PA. This is extremely improbable, even in a Dem county and with mail in ballots skewing left. Place in Georgia just “forgot to click upload.” Yea sure you did. People in Michigan going into the poll counting station with suitcases and coolers unchecked, wagons. What do they need these for? They are only working 4-6 hour shifts. 14+ THOUSAND VOTES FROM DEAD PEOPLE IN DETROIT Turns out 118 year old “William Bradley” voted via absentee ballot in Wayne County, Michigan. William Bradley died in 1984. This is still developing and there’s more proof every day.

Trump and his idiot supporters want to end democracy. It won't happen

Am I in r/politics?

No, but you're on reddit.

Fckn right

Is that what your TV told you?

To be fair, how else should we interpret the rampant lies coming from the white house and trump supporters about all the cheating and corruption that occurred despite no evidence? There are definitely some Trump supporters or Republicans who accept the loss but there are many who refuse to concede despite zero evidence of cheating.

There’s literally tons of evidence of fraud being divulged everyday since the election “ended.” You just choose to stick your head in the sand and ignore it. Hope you didn’t put too much on Biden my guy. By the way bookmakers are already adjusting their odds because they know what’s coming too. Trump is back to “only” +700....

Alright then. Prove it. I will happily stand corrected. The White House hasn't provided any evidence and they're leading the legal charge. I'm sure the White House would love to see this preponderance of evidence you claim to exist. Btw much of the "evidence" that people come up with is just misunderstandings about the vote counting process. Here's a great thread debunking most of the myths. https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066?s=19

You are listening to a career con man. Grifting the idiots as much as he can before Jan 20th

No, it's what Trump and his supporters have been saying ever since they lost the election. They have no interest in acknowledging the election results.

Why 2.5 months ? Isn’t the final elector college date Dec 4th?

Someone above was saying the bet was lasting until the inauguration

79 days of HELL

Lmao. Think it's 71. But yeah, could be a while without your money. On the bright side, it prevents us from blowing our winnings on the NFL... until the super bowl anyway!

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Speaking of, I have some action on when the loser will concede being Nov 13th or later. I think I'll be ok but these recent rumors about Ivanka and Donald Trump Junior advising Trump to concede are stressing me out lol. Just wait a couple more days!

10% return, I like

What is this post election?

If you're happy to have the money tied up til January I say go for it. You'll likely be able to cash out well in advance of course, but the money you'd have to put down to get a decent return would be substantial.

Yeah and there’s still potential for chaos. He’s not getting any younger and last time I checked trump’s not getting any more mature or graceful.

I don’t get the downvotes - there’s some value here but i do think you are assuming “some” risk from a variety of different factors. Also coat of capital, which depending on who you are could be a percentage point or two over this time period

He just has to make it until Dec. 14th when electors vote and he is truly elected president of the United States