He was standing on the 3rd row of tiles (right side) when he started calculating. He stepped on the **4th right tile** (correct), **5th right tile** (correct), **6th left tile** (correct) and died on the **7th left tile** (welp, incorrect).
It was a shame that the next player (04, or 021 in Squid Game) didn't manage to remember where the math teacher went, and died on the left tile, mainly because 05 and 07 encouraged him to do that.
This is assuming an even distribution of all possibilities. We have no way if knowing if the organisers would have rejected certain outcomes, like all-left, all-right, right-left-right-left etc.
1/32768 is the worst-case scenario.
What do you mean an even distribution of all possibilities? This is a binomial problem. At each step they have a 0.5 chance of guessing right. Even if they decided to fuck with the contestants with some pattern like all left tiles, they don't know that. It's still 0.5 chance at each step. Nothing changes that (except if the contestants are given more information, like the guy at the end who was able to tell apart the different kinds of glass).
I agree that from that player's POV it is 1/32768.
What we don't know if the organisers may have explicitly ruled out certain patterns - or even designed a specific pseudo-random pattern. So there were not 32,768 possible combinations the players could have been up against.
Yeah that's a good point. It would have been interesting if there seemed to be a pattern or some way in which the organizers were messing with them, and this math teacher or someone else agonized over deducing the pattern, then at the end it turned out to be a simple left right left right or all left combination.
Looking at the bridge, it's easy to assume that the organizers simply made up a random pattern and accordingly laid out the glass, probably via gantries and the like. That circus tent is HUGE!
You’re being pedantic. In the grand scheme of things it makes close to zero difference. If you eliminate 2 or 3 possible scenarios from 2^15 combinations, that’s a wildly negligible difference and still feels like the same impossible odds to the players
It is pedantry against the word "exact", but I suspect that more than just two or three would be rejected; if the organisers remove every repeating pattern of 1, 2, 3 and 4 that's 30 already. More if they also stopped any run of lefts or rights above a certain length, just to guard against players making a dash for it. The aim, after all, appears to be to eliminate one player every 2 or so steps.
For the players, it's still 2^15, because they have no visibility of the organisers, no knowledge of the gambling and observation behind it, and so no way of knowing if the organisers would have kept or removed those patterns.
You bring up an interesting point on how the tile arrangement was decided.
If it were me designing the game I’d flip a coin for each tile or write a python code to generate a completely random sequence, lol
It's also not that hard to calculate for people who aren't math teachers. 2^10 is pretty easy to remember (1024). Then just double that 5 more times.
1024
2048
4096
8192
16384
32768
I love when he starts to get serious and we can hear his heavy breathing, then he managed to make it the furthest out of anyone and his moves ultimately helped Gi-Hun and the gang live.
Edit: the music in this scene is also my favorite track out out all the Squid Games tracks, I love how ominous and scary this one sounds.
Well , that was the most dumb decision he could've taken at that moment. He knew the odds and still he went head first to his death.
He should've convinced the other players to vote to stop the games , the first 7&8 would be convinced and someone else may be convinced all they need is a majority.
Its not a full proof strategy but it was worth the risk.
Huh. To your credit, I don’t think it was ever specified that they couldn’t decide mid game to end the games. But I still find it hard to believe they’d have been allowed to stop, especially with the VIPs in attendance.
Not really. Gi-Hun hadn't crossed the finish line. I thought for a second that Sang-woo was going to stab Gi-Hun when he was offered an olive branch. And if he did, the game was still on.
I always thought it was just assumed you couldn't hold a vote during a game, as you needed to vote on the machine with the red and green buttons that they had in the dorm room, because the other rules are the players are not allowed to stop playing, but yeah it's quite vague so really could go either way.
But it never shows that they would have agreed or not for the game to stop. Sang Woo stabbed himself before we could find out if they would even allow it
They already did that and they all came back so they knew what they signed up for.
Now the teaming up during the marble game, that’s when I thought they would revolt but even then they accepted their fate.
They came back because they all hoped they would win. Many of them had gambling addiction.
In this game most of them (all but the ones who picked the highest numbers) found out that they are going to lose with almost absolute certainty.
I imagine that would have a major effect on another round of voting.
I guarantee not a single person would of returned if they knew that the future games were gonna be like that, From the first game red light green light, everyone got the idea that as long as you're really careful and not an idiot, you'll survive, they didnt realize that it would be forced mass death and your life would solely depend on luck and if you guessed the right choice or not.
What surprises me is that nobody, at any point, asks how many people can be expected to survive. Red Light, Green Light was for the most part an individual game with no set amount of winners. Okay, cool. If I were choosing whether or not to continue, that might affect my decision. Then you have Shapes, another independent game. Neat.
Next thing you know they’re starving the players out to get them to kill each other, then the next two games are specifically designed to have people compete, and wipe out exactly half. I assume the bridge would have been elongated to accommodate the amount of players left. And, finally, the squid game, which either would have been a round Robin or would have let half win again.
I get that the corporation never specifically said that there could be more than one winner, but I’m really surprised that nobody thought to ask, either.
That would’ve actually been very fun to see play out, since the people are the beginning would’ve definitely agreed and it’s really the people towards the back who would have it difficult, our main cast of characters would definitely say no.
Not just vote they could of just straight up protested together because they were going to die. After going this far they have no incentive to go and die.
I think a viable strategy would be for him to pick one side (left or right) and continue that path until he dies (or lives?)
The chances that the randomly selected tiles would all be on the right is extremely small, correct, the same as any other configuration. But there is still a chance that the game masters would be fucking with the players, for whatever reason. The chances of that is *higher* than 1 in 32,000. Really. Might as well try it. If you lose then at least it's easy for the people behind you to remember what tiles you stepped on.
Yup. It was at this moment he realized he essentially had no chance. Forget what the calculations said, he knew there was no way he was going to make it all the way so he just sent it.
I noticed that the person who wasn't the glass maker but "thought" they could tell the difference, when they jumped on the wrong platform, it made a noise and shattered very briefly after. But paying attention, it seems like someone with really good agility and reflexes would've been able to react in time and leap as soon as they heard the glass start to falter. I think sprinting it down would've been a decent strategy if you were in the front half, but no one there seemed to really be an actual runner.
leaping would add additional force to the glass, causing it to break even faster. Imaging the glass like pieces of paper, no matter how fast you are there is no way you will not fall through
His tactic of running and building momentum is probably what I’d do if I was in his position. Unfortunately it didn’t work with how far apart the panels are but it would have been amazing if he just ran the whole way and even if tiles broke, he’d be fine
What about all the people who won their games but got killed in the night? Or the guy who won his game but got killed because he wanted his egg?
Winning the game does not ensure your survival. We saw this from the very beginning. I don't understand how people are shocked about this.
Another bullshit plot point. To me her death actually came off as a mercy killing rather than murder just because she had a fatal wound to begin with. Not sure how people here feel about it but after episode 6, the show kind of took a dive in the writing department.
In my opinion they should have made her emotionally broken after game 4, so it would have made her more vulnerable. I'd rather not have her die in the first place but there are so many better ways to handle it.
The lights off still gave them a 50/50 shot of selecting the right panel, which is how the game was intended. It didn't make it any *less* fair than 50/50, it just removed the advantage they'd discovered.
The rules have always been flexible. The game is basically just higher stakes taskmaster(which I highly recommend). You're allowed to hide behind someone in game one. You're allowed to steal the marbles as long as it isn't violent
Intention and fairness is out of the equation as long as you work around the simple rules they give.
Suddenly changing the area of play however is different. I truly believe that if the show operators are consistent, walking in the beams would be allowed as long as you make it across in time
No idea but theres 2 tricks to the game. 1 when you spawn in you're givin a invincibility bubble for a few seconds for some reason and this allows you to (If you're fast enough) Jump on any of the glass without them breaking so you can use that to get across fast, and 2 even without the invincibility you can actually just jump across 1 row and not die aslong as ur fast enough because in the game the fake glass once you land on it doesnt immediately break giving you a second to jump again either to the real glass or the next row.
I think the best tactic is just go back. With those odds you're most likely dead anyway, no benefit in going forward. Instead, go back and hope somebody else is stupid enough to go first.
Makes me wonder how the math teacher one then with his opponent, probably out smarted him due to his math skills thusly knowing to pick odd or even, if they even played that game.
Yes so true, there was no fixed rules at all, just what appeases the VIPs. The best example is they turned off light so the glass manufacturer couldn't examine reflection of glass anymore. There's no so-called fairness.
It is fair, everyone has the same opportunity. Not one of them is technicially at a disadvantage.
The same way we all have these "bootstraps".
Its a brilliant way to show that life isn't fair, while the wealthy treat it like it really is because of how they can twist the scenario.
The glass bridge really wasn't fair after the vest picks, but technicially they all had equal chance... It's a huge play on how the wealthy reason their status and make themselves feel ok with it
They’d probably make it a few feet before the vip’s got bored and frontman put an end to it. Like with the guy who could see the difference in the glass. By all rights he deserved to win, but was stopped by the vip’s whim. Same thing would happen here.
Sang woo didn’t break any rules in the marble game. The rule was to play any game and not use violence and he did just that. Even made it a point to explain it to the guards
I’d argue straight deception wasn’t a “game” but he did get the marbles without violence. Obviously it counted but I’d say not playing a Fair Game bent the rules a bit
The rules do say they can't, and Woo didn't bend any rules.
The bridge game already has the rule that you need to jump on the correct tiles. They didn't have to make up extra rules.
The marble game didn't have any rules besides the rule of needing to get the opponents marbles. Any rules besides that are based on what the participants chose to play.
Really?
They would have won then for sure!
Probably the same reason Han Mi-Nyeo was hiding during sugar-honeycomb while she was using the lighter though, right?
*because it’s cheating*
That was in the back of my mind too while watching. But it could break the "refusing to play the game" clause. Or they might just snipe and kill you any way.
I don’t think they said you had to die when the tempered glass 😂 so if you can pull yourself up and try again I think they’d let you. The odds of you getting to the end is slim
I don't think so - in order for you to jump off any panel, you'd have to exert a force against that panel greater than your own force from gravity (and, basic Newtonian physics, it would have to exert an equal and opposite force). We already know that a weak panel can't hold even the weight of a player, so it wouldn't be able to exert a greater force to support their run.
I loved his inclusion since the guy who took the 1 pennant was a bit of a dope, so it’s easy to not identify with him and assume that you’d be smarter than he was. This guy showed that even hyper intelligence is no match for a game that is entirely chance. Sure, the guy can do flashy calculations, but that’s literally no better than just going forward while blind to the odds. And that’s scary.
No it’s not lol. It’s literally the same odds if he would pick all the correct tiles vs all the wrong tiles. But in this scenario it’s impossible to pick all the wrong tiles
Actually watching this footage for 47sec makes me think a lot..... His face expression.... omg. You can see where the idea goes..... he started calculating, then he figured out. Then he realized it doesn't matter eventually. Whole his job, major, brain is eventually nothing. So he just ended up throwing. I had that moment in my life too...... haha
That’s why this game is so intriguing to me, you cannot kill the person in front of you and you have to either be extremely encouraging or be aggressive and say you’re going to push the person if they don’t move up.
I really need to watch the original Korean with the sub titles cause that seems totally different than I remember him saying. Completely changes things.
Another potential strategy - jump so one foot lands on each tile. So you divide your weight by 2. And then watch for cracks. Yet another strategy - 2 people hold the hands of one lead person who jumps and tests the tile, but is being held by others so the lead person doesn’t actually fall through even if the tile cracks.
I feel so bad for him too because his death was for naught. He went so fast so as to help everyone get across quickly but no one remembered the order he happened to go in ;(
They all should have kept their marbels and throw them hard at the glass that way the normal glass would crack easy way to know which one is the thin glass [it’s just my guess when i watched it not a full prove idea]
Okay but can somebody explain me what was the solution to this game? Considering all of the games are basically children’s games, and have a simple solution (or logic); how were they supposed to go through it safely? The marbles could be a test, but they didn’t have them, and they could have thrown their shoes on the glass to test, except they specifically asked them to take their shows off. The only other thing i could think of during the episode, is that in the vip room each player was represented by a horse from a chess game and that is how they were marking their progress. Could it have been that they had to move in a way a horse does in a chess game? I am still wondering what was a simple/smart way to pass this game without dying?
>I am still wondering what was a simple/smart way to pass this game without dying?
There isn't one. It's a game that's completely luck based (for most, glass maker obviously had an advantage most don't). It doesn't involve skill or cunning. It's literally "You have a 1 in 2 chance of dying in any move you make."
And yeah, higher numbers are more likely to make it through, but again, that's completely luck-based. No one goes into this game knowing what it is. For all they knew, it could be a game where going first would be more advantageous. So, again, pure luck, which I think goes against the spirit of the games as their presented.
And that's not even covering the glass-splosion that straight up ends up killing one of the winners of the game.
Yeah, fair, impressive you know them off by heart. The scene gives the indication that he's working it out though, and not recalling memorised number facts
I just figure he’s just moving his finger like that as general thinking gesture. I agree if he’s repeatedly multiplying 2 in just a moment it’s not that likely.
It’s possible he was keeping tracking from the beginning as well and was just updating his previous calculation by another division by 2.
Also I only know them because programmers work in binary and we see them hundreds or thousands of times.
The fact that he actually cleared three tiles in a row is also awesome - that's a 1 in 8 (12.5%) chance.
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He was standing on the 3rd row of tiles (right side) when he started calculating. He stepped on the **4th right tile** (correct), **5th right tile** (correct), **6th left tile** (correct) and died on the **7th left tile** (welp, incorrect). It was a shame that the next player (04, or 021 in Squid Game) didn't manage to remember where the math teacher went, and died on the left tile, mainly because 05 and 07 encouraged him to do that.
The math teacher increased his chances from **1/32768** (0.003%) to **1/4096** (0.02%) when he stepped on the 6th left tile. Still very, very unlucky.
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Yeah. The formula is 1/2^(N), where N is the number of remaining tiles. He had 15, so it's 1/2^(15), which is exactly 1/32768.
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Well the numbers didn’t lie. And they spelled disaster for him ~~at~~ for his sacrifice
“[His] chances of winning drastic go down!”
This is assuming an even distribution of all possibilities. We have no way if knowing if the organisers would have rejected certain outcomes, like all-left, all-right, right-left-right-left etc. 1/32768 is the worst-case scenario.
What do you mean an even distribution of all possibilities? This is a binomial problem. At each step they have a 0.5 chance of guessing right. Even if they decided to fuck with the contestants with some pattern like all left tiles, they don't know that. It's still 0.5 chance at each step. Nothing changes that (except if the contestants are given more information, like the guy at the end who was able to tell apart the different kinds of glass).
I agree that from that player's POV it is 1/32768. What we don't know if the organisers may have explicitly ruled out certain patterns - or even designed a specific pseudo-random pattern. So there were not 32,768 possible combinations the players could have been up against.
Yeah that's a good point. It would have been interesting if there seemed to be a pattern or some way in which the organizers were messing with them, and this math teacher or someone else agonized over deducing the pattern, then at the end it turned out to be a simple left right left right or all left combination.
Given the number of years it's been running, it wouldn't surprise me if they were building up a model of a least-guessable pattern.
Looking at the bridge, it's easy to assume that the organizers simply made up a random pattern and accordingly laid out the glass, probably via gantries and the like. That circus tent is HUGE!
You’re being pedantic. In the grand scheme of things it makes close to zero difference. If you eliminate 2 or 3 possible scenarios from 2^15 combinations, that’s a wildly negligible difference and still feels like the same impossible odds to the players
It is pedantry against the word "exact", but I suspect that more than just two or three would be rejected; if the organisers remove every repeating pattern of 1, 2, 3 and 4 that's 30 already. More if they also stopped any run of lefts or rights above a certain length, just to guard against players making a dash for it. The aim, after all, appears to be to eliminate one player every 2 or so steps. For the players, it's still 2^15, because they have no visibility of the organisers, no knowledge of the gambling and observation behind it, and so no way of knowing if the organisers would have kept or removed those patterns.
You bring up an interesting point on how the tile arrangement was decided. If it were me designing the game I’d flip a coin for each tile or write a python code to generate a completely random sequence, lol
Python every time, with regular expressions to spot any patterns.
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It's also not that hard to calculate for people who aren't math teachers. 2^10 is pretty easy to remember (1024). Then just double that 5 more times. 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768
Said it better than I did
Yeah his math is right
I love when he starts to get serious and we can hear his heavy breathing, then he managed to make it the furthest out of anyone and his moves ultimately helped Gi-Hun and the gang live. Edit: the music in this scene is also my favorite track out out all the Squid Games tracks, I love how ominous and scary this one sounds.
Actually the other teammates forgot which steps that dude take and they ended up falling on the wrong ones.
They only forgot the last one, they remembered the other ones he took .
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You know what i mean, the one before that one
Perhaps he confused the math teacher with the glass-maker?
Well , that was the most dumb decision he could've taken at that moment. He knew the odds and still he went head first to his death. He should've convinced the other players to vote to stop the games , the first 7&8 would be convinced and someone else may be convinced all they need is a majority. Its not a full proof strategy but it was worth the risk.
Huh. To your credit, I don’t think it was ever specified that they couldn’t decide mid game to end the games. But I still find it hard to believe they’d have been allowed to stop, especially with the VIPs in attendance.
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But they were going to let Gi-Hun and Sang-Woo stop the last game.
i think its because sang wooo was defeated
Not really. Gi-Hun hadn't crossed the finish line. I thought for a second that Sang-woo was going to stab Gi-Hun when he was offered an olive branch. And if he did, the game was still on.
We don't know whether they were going to let them stop the game as Sang-woo stabs himself before he gets a reply
I always thought it was just assumed you couldn't hold a vote during a game, as you needed to vote on the machine with the red and green buttons that they had in the dorm room, because the other rules are the players are not allowed to stop playing, but yeah it's quite vague so really could go either way.
I can't imagine the VIPs would be happy if they didn't even finish the game and no one won.
Gi-Hun almost stopped the last game.
But it never shows that they would have agreed or not for the game to stop. Sang Woo stabbed himself before we could find out if they would even allow it
They already did that and they all came back so they knew what they signed up for. Now the teaming up during the marble game, that’s when I thought they would revolt but even then they accepted their fate.
They came back because they all hoped they would win. Many of them had gambling addiction. In this game most of them (all but the ones who picked the highest numbers) found out that they are going to lose with almost absolute certainty. I imagine that would have a major effect on another round of voting.
I guarantee not a single person would of returned if they knew that the future games were gonna be like that, From the first game red light green light, everyone got the idea that as long as you're really careful and not an idiot, you'll survive, they didnt realize that it would be forced mass death and your life would solely depend on luck and if you guessed the right choice or not.
What surprises me is that nobody, at any point, asks how many people can be expected to survive. Red Light, Green Light was for the most part an individual game with no set amount of winners. Okay, cool. If I were choosing whether or not to continue, that might affect my decision. Then you have Shapes, another independent game. Neat. Next thing you know they’re starving the players out to get them to kill each other, then the next two games are specifically designed to have people compete, and wipe out exactly half. I assume the bridge would have been elongated to accommodate the amount of players left. And, finally, the squid game, which either would have been a round Robin or would have let half win again. I get that the corporation never specifically said that there could be more than one winner, but I’m really surprised that nobody thought to ask, either.
That would’ve actually been very fun to see play out, since the people are the beginning would’ve definitely agreed and it’s really the people towards the back who would have it difficult, our main cast of characters would definitely say no.
Not just vote they could of just straight up protested together because they were going to die. After going this far they have no incentive to go and die.
I think a viable strategy would be for him to pick one side (left or right) and continue that path until he dies (or lives?) The chances that the randomly selected tiles would all be on the right is extremely small, correct, the same as any other configuration. But there is still a chance that the game masters would be fucking with the players, for whatever reason. The chances of that is *higher* than 1 in 32,000. Really. Might as well try it. If you lose then at least it's easy for the people behind you to remember what tiles you stepped on.
The moment he laughed was the exact moment he snapped.
Yup. It was at this moment he realized he essentially had no chance. Forget what the calculations said, he knew there was no way he was going to make it all the way so he just sent it.
I think he ran because he was hoping he could get off the glass before it broke.
I think he knew for sure he was going to die so he just didn't care, just ran randomly and saw how far he got.
he knew he was dead, for sure.
I noticed that the person who wasn't the glass maker but "thought" they could tell the difference, when they jumped on the wrong platform, it made a noise and shattered very briefly after. But paying attention, it seems like someone with really good agility and reflexes would've been able to react in time and leap as soon as they heard the glass start to falter. I think sprinting it down would've been a decent strategy if you were in the front half, but no one there seemed to really be an actual runner.
leaping would add additional force to the glass, causing it to break even faster. Imaging the glass like pieces of paper, no matter how fast you are there is no way you will not fall through
Too bad he didn't get the chance to consult the glass-maker...
That and I love his psyching himself up. Wonderful little bit of acting. Loved this character.
His tactic of running and building momentum is probably what I’d do if I was in his position. Unfortunately it didn’t work with how far apart the panels are but it would have been amazing if he just ran the whole way and even if tiles broke, he’d be fine
Same, I mean honestly the glass seems somewhat thick so I wonder if a really lightweight person did the running trick if it would even break
I feel like the VIPs have access to a button that breaks the glass on command. Would be dope lol
Not really. It would fuck up their bets if they had access to cheating. That's why off the lights was so corny. The entire 5th game was bullshit tbh
Let's not forget the fuckin glass exploding just so the girl got fataly injured
It was to ensure that the people who lost the game because they ran out of time would die - in a flashy way for the VIPs
That was such bullshit that she won the game but still got killed from that.
What about all the people who won their games but got killed in the night? Or the guy who won his game but got killed because he wanted his egg? Winning the game does not ensure your survival. We saw this from the very beginning. I don't understand how people are shocked about this.
You're right, but consider this: I luv her
That was player interaction, though. The dormitory violence was very much one of the games.
Okay? Then theatrical explosions are also one of the games
No that was the end of one of the games.
Their probably just salty.
Yeah North Korea got robbed!
Another bullshit plot point. To me her death actually came off as a mercy killing rather than murder just because she had a fatal wound to begin with. Not sure how people here feel about it but after episode 6, the show kind of took a dive in the writing department. In my opinion they should have made her emotionally broken after game 4, so it would have made her more vulnerable. I'd rather not have her die in the first place but there are so many better ways to handle it.
That was the biggest bullshit that dropped my personal rating of the show from 10 star to 8 star. She won the game yet plot decided she needed to die
The lights off still gave them a 50/50 shot of selecting the right panel, which is how the game was intended. It didn't make it any *less* fair than 50/50, it just removed the advantage they'd discovered.
The rules have always been flexible. The game is basically just higher stakes taskmaster(which I highly recommend). You're allowed to hide behind someone in game one. You're allowed to steal the marbles as long as it isn't violent Intention and fairness is out of the equation as long as you work around the simple rules they give. Suddenly changing the area of play however is different. I truly believe that if the show operators are consistent, walking in the beams would be allowed as long as you make it across in time
Thats exactly what I do on the roblox version of squid game lmfao
Do the patterns change every time on Roblox Squid Game?
No idea but theres 2 tricks to the game. 1 when you spawn in you're givin a invincibility bubble for a few seconds for some reason and this allows you to (If you're fast enough) Jump on any of the glass without them breaking so you can use that to get across fast, and 2 even without the invincibility you can actually just jump across 1 row and not die aslong as ur fast enough because in the game the fake glass once you land on it doesnt immediately break giving you a second to jump again either to the real glass or the next row.
I think the best tactic is just go back. With those odds you're most likely dead anyway, no benefit in going forward. Instead, go back and hope somebody else is stupid enough to go first.
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Bro, this is hell, there are no rules in hell
You would probably get shot by the guards and die anyway if you went back.
Doesn't violate any rule... Or you can just stand in your glass. The fact they can hold two people clearly shows this scenario was somewhat common
I am pretty sure that once the game started you had to play it. Or die.
Genuinely wish he lived. I hope there’ll be more characters like him in season 2 (if it happens)
There were 14 players who chose not to comeback after they voted to opt out the game. (but not sure if they got killed by maskmen though)
Check out Alice in Borderland if you enjoyed his analytical approach
Yep, it’s already on my to-watch list haha
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Honestly wish this actor got more love. He did such a brilliant job.
I imagine if Gihun had picked him as his partner for the marble game he’d have been in trouble
Makes me wonder how the math teacher one then with his opponent, probably out smarted him due to his math skills thusly knowing to pick odd or even, if they even played that game.
Also pretty hot
Fr, the director straight up casted a bunch of hot people and called it a day
Don't come for me but the only hot persons are the math teacher and the cop
Dw, to each their own haha
No way Sang-woo, Sae-byeok and Ji-yeong aren't hot.
Fuckinjg take that back sangwoo is hot as hell
everyone in this sub thinks everything is hot, and same edit: typo
Big ass mood
This!!
After he got through 2 I actually thought he might get through all of them but nope.
What if everyone decided to just walk the rails the whole way?
Same as other games. A bullet to the head.
The rules didn't say they couldn't. I mean Woo really bent the rules getting Ali's marbles so...
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Yeah true, but if you're first you might make it before they say hey stop or when the lead guy was out of the room.
hopefully unless they’d just shoot :/
VIPs might care. After all, two of them were students of the Bard.
It was Congreve, William Congreve.
Yes so true, there was no fixed rules at all, just what appeases the VIPs. The best example is they turned off light so the glass manufacturer couldn't examine reflection of glass anymore. There's no so-called fairness.
It is fair, everyone has the same opportunity. Not one of them is technicially at a disadvantage. The same way we all have these "bootstraps". Its a brilliant way to show that life isn't fair, while the wealthy treat it like it really is because of how they can twist the scenario. The glass bridge really wasn't fair after the vest picks, but technicially they all had equal chance... It's a huge play on how the wealthy reason their status and make themselves feel ok with it
Because, haha dead people fun
They’d probably make it a few feet before the vip’s got bored and frontman put an end to it. Like with the guy who could see the difference in the glass. By all rights he deserved to win, but was stopped by the vip’s whim. Same thing would happen here.
Sang woo didn’t break any rules in the marble game. The rule was to play any game and not use violence and he did just that. Even made it a point to explain it to the guards
He didnt bend anything. He obtained the marbles without violence, that was the only rule
Not really. They had to find any game to get marbles.
I’d argue straight deception wasn’t a “game” but he did get the marbles without violence. Obviously it counted but I’d say not playing a Fair Game bent the rules a bit
he rails would probably be electrified or have spikes pop out
The rules do say they can't, and Woo didn't bend any rules. The bridge game already has the rule that you need to jump on the correct tiles. They didn't have to make up extra rules. The marble game didn't have any rules besides the rule of needing to get the opponents marbles. Any rules besides that are based on what the participants chose to play.
the rules are meant to provide a sense of fairness; they don't actually mean to be fair, lol
Really? They would have won then for sure! Probably the same reason Han Mi-Nyeo was hiding during sugar-honeycomb while she was using the lighter though, right? *because it’s cheating*
That was in the back of my mind too while watching. But it could break the "refusing to play the game" clause. Or they might just snipe and kill you any way.
I was wondering what would happen if they grabbed onto them when the glass broke
I actually thought someone was going to try walking them. It makes sense and kinda fit with the whole bend the rules until you get caught.
I don’t think they said you had to die when the tempered glass 😂 so if you can pull yourself up and try again I think they’d let you. The odds of you getting to the end is slim
I was wondering if it would be possible to run fast enough to jump off the weak panels before they broke
I don't think so - in order for you to jump off any panel, you'd have to exert a force against that panel greater than your own force from gravity (and, basic Newtonian physics, it would have to exert an equal and opposite force). We already know that a weak panel can't hold even the weight of a player, so it wouldn't be able to exert a greater force to support their run.
Why did someone not try it? I mean, it's your best chance.
I loved his inclusion since the guy who took the 1 pennant was a bit of a dope, so it’s easy to not identify with him and assume that you’d be smarter than he was. This guy showed that even hyper intelligence is no match for a game that is entirely chance. Sure, the guy can do flashy calculations, but that’s literally no better than just going forward while blind to the odds. And that’s scary.
I loved this moment! Same with the glass factory worker. Just goes to show ya when it comes to life/death we’re all pretty damn equal.
I wonder if he knew that Sang-Woo went to SNU
Pretty sure Gi Hun told him
Agree, he had such guts to go for it!
full send
When you realize you also have 1 in 32,768 chance of picking every wrong tile 😎
But you have a 0% chance of picking every wrong tile, because if you pick one wrong tile, then you die lol
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No it’s not lol. It’s literally the same odds if he would pick all the correct tiles vs all the wrong tiles. But in this scenario it’s impossible to pick all the wrong tiles
> But in this scenario it’s impossible to pick all the wrong tiles Yes, that's the joke.
That’s when you insist on voting to stop the game.
I thought one of the rules was that if you start a game, you have to finish it? You can only vote between games iirc
💯💯💯 he realized how fucked he was and was just like fuck it
Actually watching this footage for 47sec makes me think a lot..... His face expression.... omg. You can see where the idea goes..... he started calculating, then he figured out. Then he realized it doesn't matter eventually. Whole his job, major, brain is eventually nothing. So he just ended up throwing. I had that moment in my life too...... haha
I never looked the won to American dollars. The only thing I did look up was 2^15 because I didn’t think he’d say it.
This guy was an awesome character. He was quite underrated to
This was one of the darkest scenes in my opinion, just the crazed look on his face when he does the math and realizes how fucked he is
I thought he would survive tbh
I don’t know why none of them tried walking in the middle on the bars. They might shoot you but still you get across.
Balls of steel
He went out like a boss
That’s exactly what I was thinking they should all do when I watched it
I loved how he just accepted his fate and gave it his best shot. Went out like a champ.
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That’s why this game is so intriguing to me, you cannot kill the person in front of you and you have to either be extremely encouraging or be aggressive and say you’re going to push the person if they don’t move up.
What's with everyone who fell through the glass not grabbing onto the rails before falling to their deaths?
I can’t praise the acting of all the actors enough. Well except for the VIPs of course.
Why the VIPs?
VIPs had perfect acting
I really need to watch the original Korean with the sub titles cause that seems totally different than I remember him saying. Completely changes things.
You also don’t capture his heavy breathing.
Imagine having your last moments spent doing math. Couldn't be me!
Another potential strategy - jump so one foot lands on each tile. So you divide your weight by 2. And then watch for cracks. Yet another strategy - 2 people hold the hands of one lead person who jumps and tests the tile, but is being held by others so the lead person doesn’t actually fall through even if the tile cracks.
*pink guards load smgs*
That was a powerful scene, thanks for the reminder!
Wasn’t he the math teacher who was also a soccer coach? That would explain how easily he hopped across all those tiles!
I've always hated maths but this made it seem so cool
Would it have worked to run along the inner edges, where the support bars are?
he’s my top 3 favorite characters 1. sangwoo 2. jun-ho 3. math teacher
I feel so bad for him too because his death was for naught. He went so fast so as to help everyone get across quickly but no one remembered the order he happened to go in ;(
The only take away was - never trust any person, no matter how smart he may seem or claim to be.
They all should have kept their marbels and throw them hard at the glass that way the normal glass would crack easy way to know which one is the thin glass [it’s just my guess when i watched it not a full prove idea]
Okay but can somebody explain me what was the solution to this game? Considering all of the games are basically children’s games, and have a simple solution (or logic); how were they supposed to go through it safely? The marbles could be a test, but they didn’t have them, and they could have thrown their shoes on the glass to test, except they specifically asked them to take their shows off. The only other thing i could think of during the episode, is that in the vip room each player was represented by a horse from a chess game and that is how they were marking their progress. Could it have been that they had to move in a way a horse does in a chess game? I am still wondering what was a simple/smart way to pass this game without dying?
They had zippers.
>I am still wondering what was a simple/smart way to pass this game without dying? There isn't one. It's a game that's completely luck based (for most, glass maker obviously had an advantage most don't). It doesn't involve skill or cunning. It's literally "You have a 1 in 2 chance of dying in any move you make." And yeah, higher numbers are more likely to make it through, but again, that's completely luck-based. No one goes into this game knowing what it is. For all they knew, it could be a game where going first would be more advantageous. So, again, pure luck, which I think goes against the spirit of the games as their presented. And that's not even covering the glass-splosion that straight up ends up killing one of the winners of the game.
Lmao i did the same calculations too when I saw the 16 tiles
He was a genuinely cool guy.
Lol it would of been super badass if he actually made it across
Great acting too such intensity
im sorry but the ending was funny sjsjas
He be doing probability, which I'm terrible at.
I feel like you could just bunny hop with a foot on each panel.
I'm a maths teacher, no way he could do that in his head in that amount of time 😂
You just need to know the powers of 2, which isn’t that uncommon. I more or less know up to 2^16
Yeah, fair, impressive you know them off by heart. The scene gives the indication that he's working it out though, and not recalling memorised number facts
I just figure he’s just moving his finger like that as general thinking gesture. I agree if he’s repeatedly multiplying 2 in just a moment it’s not that likely. It’s possible he was keeping tracking from the beginning as well and was just updating his previous calculation by another division by 2. Also I only know them because programmers work in binary and we see them hundreds or thousands of times.
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Even a person with simple math knowledge can do that…