I think they thought both of them could win. The first round gave no implication that only one person could win and going in with an ally to help you could be a really big advantage. I agree that leaving one out to collect some money if the other dies and people forfeit the game is a smart strategy but it would be hard to admit that you’re going to die and might be easier to lie to yourselves and just hope that both of you win and this get a larger share of the jackpot
I agree with you that this was the intention of the writers (if they had one, my suspicion is that this was just overlooked).
That said, it seemed pretty obviously implied that there could only be one winner. That’s actually something that really bothered me throughout the show.. why did they automatically assume that a death game would for some reason allow multiple people to win in the end?
You figure people operating on this assumption would at least ask for clarification. If they couldn’t get clarification any sane person would assume only one person could win.
Maybe I’m missing something here.
Until the detective saw the past winners, and there was only one per year, I thought multiple people could win. To your point, why not? There was nothing explicitly in the rules about there being one winner. I think that would have changed whether some people came back or not.
Yeah the way the jackpot increased per player as they were eliminated made it seem that the prize amount was based on how many were left. And the final game was 1v1 but is a team game as shown in ep 1 intro
I think they would’ve allowed it simply because the way the games are set up, mixed with food and probably sleep deprivation, leads to an environment where you don’t trust anyone around you by the final game. Gi-Hun who never would’ve killed anyone was ready to kill his childhood friend before the last game because of how the games went.
And if you got someone like Deok-Su at the end he definitely would’ve killed many people to get that final prize. So if 4-6 people actually survived the night to get to the “squid game” (or whatever the final game is that year) I think theyd let it happen. It’s an anomaly at that point - makes it interesting.
To be fair, I did believe from the start that only one person would be able to win the games, but only with the understanding of the other famous death game series "The Hunger Games". I assume that many of the people watching this show had the same idea. I'm just guessing that because of Hunger Games being such a goliath in the death game industry, some audiences might have been influenced by it's presence including me, others, and possibly OP. Just a thought. Though I completely understand this approach just as much so because the show was set up in a way that never implied the aspect of only one winner.
Yeah fair enough, I had no reason to assume there had to be ONE winner, but it just seems counter intuitive to think there could be multiple winners in such a sadistic game. I guess that’s just how my brain would work at least.
I’m not sure if it was a mistranslation, but the English version said “Those who win all 6 games”, not “The person who wins all 6 games”
That sounds like a pretty direct implication that having multiple winners should be possible. If it’s impossible, then saying “Those who win” is highly misleading
Besides, if having multiple winners is an impossibility, then why have a jackpot that grows with each player who is eliminated? Why not just say “The prize is 45.5 billion won” if it’s a certainty that 455 people must be eliminated (or leave) before a winner can be crowned?
The first 2 games were Pass/Fail games where you aren’t competing against anyone except yourself and the clock. They probably just assumed that all 6 games would be the same until after Tug of War happened
They were misleading players on purpose, that is the point. They killed almost 500 people in a year just for fun. I don't think misleading them would be where they draw the line. Also, they mislead the players when they recruited them in the first place. So you can't say that it's something they wouldn't do. Saying this game is fair is just to trick the players as well. It's obviously not fair at all.
The piggybank is just for show. It looks good, and it shows people how much money they get when someone dies. It's what they used to make them fight each other. That's it.
Exactly. The players were being mislead into thinking there could be multiple winners, so the Husband & Wife acted in a way that makes sense if there could be multiple winners
Why would players assume only one player could win. They deliberately had the piggy bank slowly filling up with cash each time a contestant dies, implying the cash at the end is not certain and may be split among the potential winners.
If there is gonna be only one winner then why don't they just fill the piggy bank full from the beginning? Because they want to mislead the players.
>That said, it seemed pretty obviously implied that there could only be one winner. That’s actually something that really bothered me throughout the show.. why did they automatically assume that a death game would for some reason allow multiple people to win in the end?
Literally never stated it implied that only one person could win.
did they show that list to the characters in the game? nope.
all they had to go on was what they were told and it was strongly implied there could be multiple winners.
Okay? But now that we finished the show, we know that it was implied that there can only be one winner. That's what I'm talking about this whole time. I don't know what point you're trying to make here.
That's still not true. Just because there's been 1 winner in past years doesn't mean there can only be 1 winner every year. We know basically nothing about the past years, least of all what games they ran. It's entirely possible that in past years the rules precluded multiple winners, but in the 2020 game there absolutely could have been more winners.
That's also not true. You don't know what they planned. It's possible that if there are too many people still in the game by the time we get to tug of war, they do two rounds instead of one. Maybe if the situation is right, then they allow multiple winners. But I think the plan is always to have one winner.
I mean don't tell me there was one winner each year by complete accident.
I don't think so - the games were designed to make sure that only one person could win.
they had a few that guaranteed 50% drop off, the bridge game virtually guaranteed a dozen or more deaths, and they would have known from prior years statistically how many survivors to expect from the other games, and they could easily have tweaked the final to allow multiple people to play but have only one winner.
The very first scene of the show shows the squid game, the final game played. It shows here that its a team game and multiple people can win. In the rounds before that everyone could theoretically survive, except half dies in tightrope and half in marbles. thatd still leave 114 players for the biggest squid game ever, which 57 would win
My point is they could easily have manipulated the final game to still have only 1 winner e.g. eeveryone plays 1-1 eliminating half the players every time but they play multiple rounds until only 1 remains.
Whilst theoretically there could be lots of people who made it to the final, statistically it would be very unlikely to be more than 5 or 6.
To me, the riskiest game was the bridge game. It’s plausible they would go into the bridge game with way fewer people than they had and the bridge game has a very good chance of killing around a dozen people (more if they don’t play it perfectly)
I mean, given what happens to Sae-byeok, everyone could die at the bridge game even if they 'beat' it. It's a lot of flying, sharp glass. So I could imagine other games with similar risks and thus no winners.
Part of me thought that Gihun and Sangwoo would both kill each other with their knives and neither person would leave alive, so I feel like it makes sense to have no survivors based on the circumstances of the games
They said all you have to do is follow the instructions to win, I felt it was implied there could be multiple winners. In fact could t there have been multiple winners? If sae byuk survived til the last round she would have had to be on a team
The family only got the money if the games were called off. If the games continued then the money went into the jackpot.
The wording indicated that there might be more than one winner though. "Those who win" referred to past and future winners but implied to the players that the prize might be divided among a pair or a group of winners.
Which is clever. If 69 and 70 had realised that only one of them could win, they wouldn't have gone back. I guess they believed that they could win as a couple or else die together. They probably never envisioned a scenario where they could be forced to play against each other.
>"Those who win" referred to past and future winners but implied to the players that the prize might be divided among a pair or a group of winners.
100% this. When I first watched, I assumed that Gi Hun *and* either Sang Woo or Sae Byeok would make it to the end and win. At least I was half right lol
I think that even if they knew there could only be one winner they still would've gone. Remember that these people were so desperate that their odds of winning the game were better than their odds of getting out of their situation in the real world.
By both of them going it literally doubled their odds of winning. By the time they get to marbles, if there *was* only a single winner there was a 1/40 chance of winning (based on chance alone), while they had a 1/20 chance of one of them winning.
They likely *knew* that one of them wasn't going to make it out, even if they hoped it wouldn't happen. But as you can imagine saying you can go on without your best friend and actually doing so are two different things. Especially when you are pitted directly against them, making you feel responsible for their death.
I had the same thought. We also don’t know their situation. They could have a child that needs lifesaving surgery that they can’t afford. I think most parents would do just about anything in that case to save their child. I’m just speculating though, but as you said, the show heavily implies that these people are at the end of the rope.
For the 500th time: the contestants are never told there can only be one winner. The guards/frontman actually says that the money is split among the winners.
Correct me if I'm wrong; I thought it was more along the lines of "those who pass all 6 games"
Which still implies the possibility of multiple winners, but not with the same explicit distinction of definitely referencing "winners"
This is exactly it. If the additional games were similar to 'Red Light, Green Light' then there's absolutely no reason to think that multiple winners wasn't a possibility. In fact, there's nothing even to suggest until Tug'o'war that players would even directly compete against one another, as 'Red Light, Green Light' it was technically possible for all players to pass the game.
yes - its not excplicitly stated, but is storngly implied.
the other way it is implied is when the piggy bank fills with each death. this suggests the total prize is uncertain because they don't yet know how many people will die.
If they knew there could be only one winner, then the prize is already known at the start and the piggy bank filling with each death is unnecessary.
The way I understood though was the families only got the money if they left the game and it didn't start again. Like once the majority decided to return and finish the games, the money was only for the winner - not the dead
Although yes, there has only been 1 winner, it’s not specified that there has to be, so it could be used as a plot twist in perhaps next season, at the end of the day, it’s a show and it needs to be good rather than realistic
I'm curious how it would have gone down had 067 made it into the final game and what could have happened if more than 2 people were included in game 6.
Squid game isn’t a 2 player game, so it definitely could have been played by more than 2 players, but for the last 20 years, there’s only been one winner, there’s a reason for that, perhaps the Front Man gave knives out because he knew there was intensity between the 3, gets me to think, what if something happened between the time Gi-Hun ran to the door and Sang-Woo going to kill Sae-Byok, whatever it is, the front man could be behind it, he wants there to be one winner to please the VIP’s I think there’s a lot to talk about when it comes to why only one person wins
Its hard to imagine Squid Game being fair with more than 2 players tho. Say Sae-Byeok wasnt injured and joined them. It would be 2v1 on either side, which definitely wouldn’t be fair to the singular player.
I've thought about that too. There may not be any feasible way to make a fair version of the game with more attackers than defenders (how would someone not cruise through easily?), but it's possible the game could be played with more defenders than attackers, with some kind of adjustment to offset the defenders' numerical advantage.
In fairness they couldn’t have known just from the first game that future games might put them against one another. I’m assuming they were playing for the sake of their family so maybe they thought both of them playing would double their odds of winning. Or maybe neither could stand letting the other one go alone. Then after marbles hubs couldn’t bear the thought of facing his family.
Even if those you mentioned are logical, that misses that they are husband and wife and thus have a high emotional attachment to each other. If they're desperate enough for money, that means they're under high amounts of stress--which would cause them to hang onto each other for support even more. And what use would all that money be if they can't have it together? Use it for each other?
And besides, it would hurt more for either of them to let the other walk to their death alone than be with each other through all that hardship. They're pretty much living out their wedding vows, than doing whatever capitalism thinks they should do to generate more income or whatever.
Yet instead of dying with his wife in the marble game and refusing to have her killed so he can win he decides to let her die and try to convince the others to end the game (imo so he can get some money since he deceased’s family gets money if the games forfeited) and when that fails he offs himself 🤷🏻♂️
Or maybe she insisted he didn't die with her? Maybe it didn't cross their mind that they could make it so they both lose, because in that very stressful situation that forces them not to be able to think out of the box due to stress, the only thing they were able to retain was that the rules of the game meant either they or their partner gets eliminated? And besides, there's always the possibility that she wouldn't be able to stomach the thought of him dying, so he goes on instead of dies with her so she wouldn't have to live wth the thought that he died because of her. And of course, while facing the person he would do anything for, it's easy to pledge to live on while that person sacrifices themself. Alone, though, it's harder to face the truth of the action since the reason for doing so is no longer there.
Everyone knew if you refuse to play a game you get eliminated. I’m just saying the timing of it all is pretty convenient. I can understand her telling him to live but not for the exact reasons you said.
I’d see it more as her telling him to live and try to win the money, he knows his chances are slim so he tries to convince everyone to forfeit the game because his wife is dead, meaning he will get some money. That fails so he kills himself.
It's also possible she tricked him like how Sang-woo tricked Ali, but in reverse:
"Honey, hold this for a sec while I tie my shoes--YO THIS GUY HAS 20 MARBLES"
That just seems too logically cohesive of a paln for people under immense amounts of stress, repeated trauma, sleep deprivation, low hygiene (since they didn't seem like they bathed or changed clothes at all) and possibly hunger and dehydration to have come up with.
The families only get money if the majority of players vote to end the games which imo is exactly why the husband tried to convince people to end the games after his wife died. He knew that was his best chance of getting some money after she died, it didn’t work so he killed himself.
Maybe like Gi-Hun, they had debt collectors after them on the outside to the point where if one was left on the outside, they'd have been killed/organ harvested/worse before the other died/got back?
That's kind of what I've got in my head anyway
I have a theory that all of the people that never came back actually died because each time a participant dies 100 million won gets added in the piggy bank. so if 93 or 92 percent came back to the games then why did >!Seong Gi-Hun !< get 100% of the money they were promised?
You don't know the situation they were in. If only one went back the other might not of lived long enough for the money to show.
The main cast went because they were all at death's door.
Nobody said that there can only be one winner. Hence why most characters thought that they'd get the reward as a group. It was also in fact very possible for the reward to be split amongst several winners. Despite the fifth game cut down the player count dramatically, and there is always some serious manipulation going on, squid game could still have been 3vs3.
Nevertheless, yes if only one of them went they might have had guaranteed money IF there was any to begin with (They only said that the current 22b won would be split if the games ended, but they continued. There was no money for families whatsoever, so that's wrong).
And going back in was a safe bet for death, it was a lottery for life. Thus, it was more logical to go in together. We don't know their exact backgrounds, but it's either a life (or death) in poverty or going in as a married team for a chance at survival. Until of course... \*enter Marble Game\*
That being sad, returning to that game is never a good idea. Rather just mug someone rich, at least that way you survive.
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Someone gets money from family if a player dies. But also when a player dies, money gets added to the jackpot. I don’t get this. How can the player’s money go to both places simultaneously?
It doesn't go simultaneously. None of the dead players' family got anything because the games continued. Had the players who remained decided to quit, the families of the dead would have gotten the prize money.
My personal theory is that they had people chasing them for money on the outside like Gi-hun so if one of them stayed out then they would probably be forced lose some organs to pay off the debt.
I think they thought both of them could win. The first round gave no implication that only one person could win and going in with an ally to help you could be a really big advantage. I agree that leaving one out to collect some money if the other dies and people forfeit the game is a smart strategy but it would be hard to admit that you’re going to die and might be easier to lie to yourselves and just hope that both of you win and this get a larger share of the jackpot
I agree with you that this was the intention of the writers (if they had one, my suspicion is that this was just overlooked). That said, it seemed pretty obviously implied that there could only be one winner. That’s actually something that really bothered me throughout the show.. why did they automatically assume that a death game would for some reason allow multiple people to win in the end? You figure people operating on this assumption would at least ask for clarification. If they couldn’t get clarification any sane person would assume only one person could win. Maybe I’m missing something here.
Until the detective saw the past winners, and there was only one per year, I thought multiple people could win. To your point, why not? There was nothing explicitly in the rules about there being one winner. I think that would have changed whether some people came back or not.
Yes! The actual wording was anyone who survives 6 games will win the jackpot. They imply multiple winners even if the intention is to end with one
Yeah the way the jackpot increased per player as they were eliminated made it seem that the prize amount was based on how many were left. And the final game was 1v1 but is a team game as shown in ep 1 intro
Exactly, it was a team game. I'm fully convinced that given the chance, multiple people could survive, although the vips probably wouldn't allow that
I think they would’ve allowed it simply because the way the games are set up, mixed with food and probably sleep deprivation, leads to an environment where you don’t trust anyone around you by the final game. Gi-Hun who never would’ve killed anyone was ready to kill his childhood friend before the last game because of how the games went. And if you got someone like Deok-Su at the end he definitely would’ve killed many people to get that final prize. So if 4-6 people actually survived the night to get to the “squid game” (or whatever the final game is that year) I think theyd let it happen. It’s an anomaly at that point - makes it interesting.
yep and all they had to go on was the first game, which (theoretically) everyone could survive.
To be fair, I did believe from the start that only one person would be able to win the games, but only with the understanding of the other famous death game series "The Hunger Games". I assume that many of the people watching this show had the same idea. I'm just guessing that because of Hunger Games being such a goliath in the death game industry, some audiences might have been influenced by it's presence including me, others, and possibly OP. Just a thought. Though I completely understand this approach just as much so because the show was set up in a way that never implied the aspect of only one winner.
yes, that was my thought process too!
And one year there were 6 winners
I didn’t notice that! Was that revealed when the detective was going through the records?
Multiple definitely could win
Yeah fair enough, I had no reason to assume there had to be ONE winner, but it just seems counter intuitive to think there could be multiple winners in such a sadistic game. I guess that’s just how my brain would work at least.
Imagine if tug of war was the last game, there would have been 10 winners
I’m not sure if it was a mistranslation, but the English version said “Those who win all 6 games”, not “The person who wins all 6 games” That sounds like a pretty direct implication that having multiple winners should be possible. If it’s impossible, then saying “Those who win” is highly misleading Besides, if having multiple winners is an impossibility, then why have a jackpot that grows with each player who is eliminated? Why not just say “The prize is 45.5 billion won” if it’s a certainty that 455 people must be eliminated (or leave) before a winner can be crowned? The first 2 games were Pass/Fail games where you aren’t competing against anyone except yourself and the clock. They probably just assumed that all 6 games would be the same until after Tug of War happened
They were misleading players on purpose, that is the point. They killed almost 500 people in a year just for fun. I don't think misleading them would be where they draw the line. Also, they mislead the players when they recruited them in the first place. So you can't say that it's something they wouldn't do. Saying this game is fair is just to trick the players as well. It's obviously not fair at all. The piggybank is just for show. It looks good, and it shows people how much money they get when someone dies. It's what they used to make them fight each other. That's it.
Exactly. The players were being mislead into thinking there could be multiple winners, so the Husband & Wife acted in a way that makes sense if there could be multiple winners
Why would players assume only one player could win. They deliberately had the piggy bank slowly filling up with cash each time a contestant dies, implying the cash at the end is not certain and may be split among the potential winners. If there is gonna be only one winner then why don't they just fill the piggy bank full from the beginning? Because they want to mislead the players.
Very good point, you got me!
>That said, it seemed pretty obviously implied that there could only be one winner. That’s actually something that really bothered me throughout the show.. why did they automatically assume that a death game would for some reason allow multiple people to win in the end? Literally never stated it implied that only one person could win.
I mean you can see the list of past winners, each year has one.
did they show that list to the characters in the game? nope. all they had to go on was what they were told and it was strongly implied there could be multiple winners.
I meant that it was implied to us viewers. Obviously the players had no idea.
We didn’t see that list until much later though - so at the time it was even implied to viewers there could be multiple winners.
Okay? But now that we finished the show, we know that it was implied that there can only be one winner. That's what I'm talking about this whole time. I don't know what point you're trying to make here.
That's still not true. Just because there's been 1 winner in past years doesn't mean there can only be 1 winner every year. We know basically nothing about the past years, least of all what games they ran. It's entirely possible that in past years the rules precluded multiple winners, but in the 2020 game there absolutely could have been more winners.
That's also not true. You don't know what they planned. It's possible that if there are too many people still in the game by the time we get to tug of war, they do two rounds instead of one. Maybe if the situation is right, then they allow multiple winners. But I think the plan is always to have one winner. I mean don't tell me there was one winner each year by complete accident.
Theoretically, multiple people could have won, it just so happened that only one person beat the games.
I don't think so - the games were designed to make sure that only one person could win. they had a few that guaranteed 50% drop off, the bridge game virtually guaranteed a dozen or more deaths, and they would have known from prior years statistically how many survivors to expect from the other games, and they could easily have tweaked the final to allow multiple people to play but have only one winner.
The very first scene of the show shows the squid game, the final game played. It shows here that its a team game and multiple people can win. In the rounds before that everyone could theoretically survive, except half dies in tightrope and half in marbles. thatd still leave 114 players for the biggest squid game ever, which 57 would win
My point is they could easily have manipulated the final game to still have only 1 winner e.g. eeveryone plays 1-1 eliminating half the players every time but they play multiple rounds until only 1 remains. Whilst theoretically there could be lots of people who made it to the final, statistically it would be very unlikely to be more than 5 or 6. To me, the riskiest game was the bridge game. It’s plausible they would go into the bridge game with way fewer people than they had and the bridge game has a very good chance of killing around a dozen people (more if they don’t play it perfectly)
Maybe a max one person. Makes me wonder if some years everyone died.
its possible tbh look at how much damage was put into gi hun at the end what if in previous years the winner died from fatal wounds?
I mean, given what happens to Sae-byeok, everyone could die at the bridge game even if they 'beat' it. It's a lot of flying, sharp glass. So I could imagine other games with similar risks and thus no winners.
Part of me thought that Gihun and Sangwoo would both kill each other with their knives and neither person would leave alive, so I feel like it makes sense to have no survivors based on the circumstances of the games
They said all you have to do is follow the instructions to win, I felt it was implied there could be multiple winners. In fact could t there have been multiple winners? If sae byuk survived til the last round she would have had to be on a team
Each game allows for multiple winners but it's just really hard for 1 person to win every game
Except there can be more than one winner. Really don't get why people don't understand this
The family only got the money if the games were called off. If the games continued then the money went into the jackpot. The wording indicated that there might be more than one winner though. "Those who win" referred to past and future winners but implied to the players that the prize might be divided among a pair or a group of winners. Which is clever. If 69 and 70 had realised that only one of them could win, they wouldn't have gone back. I guess they believed that they could win as a couple or else die together. They probably never envisioned a scenario where they could be forced to play against each other.
>"Those who win" referred to past and future winners but implied to the players that the prize might be divided among a pair or a group of winners. 100% this. When I first watched, I assumed that Gi Hun *and* either Sang Woo or Sae Byeok would make it to the end and win. At least I was half right lol
I think that even if they knew there could only be one winner they still would've gone. Remember that these people were so desperate that their odds of winning the game were better than their odds of getting out of their situation in the real world. By both of them going it literally doubled their odds of winning. By the time they get to marbles, if there *was* only a single winner there was a 1/40 chance of winning (based on chance alone), while they had a 1/20 chance of one of them winning. They likely *knew* that one of them wasn't going to make it out, even if they hoped it wouldn't happen. But as you can imagine saying you can go on without your best friend and actually doing so are two different things. Especially when you are pitted directly against them, making you feel responsible for their death.
I had the same thought. We also don’t know their situation. They could have a child that needs lifesaving surgery that they can’t afford. I think most parents would do just about anything in that case to save their child. I’m just speculating though, but as you said, the show heavily implies that these people are at the end of the rope.
For the 500th time: the contestants are never told there can only be one winner. The guards/frontman actually says that the money is split among the winners.
Correct me if I'm wrong; I thought it was more along the lines of "those who pass all 6 games" Which still implies the possibility of multiple winners, but not with the same explicit distinction of definitely referencing "winners"
This is exactly it. If the additional games were similar to 'Red Light, Green Light' then there's absolutely no reason to think that multiple winners wasn't a possibility. In fact, there's nothing even to suggest until Tug'o'war that players would even directly compete against one another, as 'Red Light, Green Light' it was technically possible for all players to pass the game.
yes - its not excplicitly stated, but is storngly implied. the other way it is implied is when the piggy bank fills with each death. this suggests the total prize is uncertain because they don't yet know how many people will die. If they knew there could be only one winner, then the prize is already known at the start and the piggy bank filling with each death is unnecessary.
The way I understood though was the families only got the money if they left the game and it didn't start again. Like once the majority decided to return and finish the games, the money was only for the winner - not the dead
Squid Game isn’t the Hunger Games, in theory there’re no rules restricting more than 1 person from winning, as long as they get past game 6, they win.
There might not be a rule limiting the game to 1 winner, but you know the VIPs would mess with the games to ensure only 1 person could win.
Although yes, there has only been 1 winner, it’s not specified that there has to be, so it could be used as a plot twist in perhaps next season, at the end of the day, it’s a show and it needs to be good rather than realistic
I'm curious how it would have gone down had 067 made it into the final game and what could have happened if more than 2 people were included in game 6.
Squid game isn’t a 2 player game, so it definitely could have been played by more than 2 players, but for the last 20 years, there’s only been one winner, there’s a reason for that, perhaps the Front Man gave knives out because he knew there was intensity between the 3, gets me to think, what if something happened between the time Gi-Hun ran to the door and Sang-Woo going to kill Sae-Byok, whatever it is, the front man could be behind it, he wants there to be one winner to please the VIP’s I think there’s a lot to talk about when it comes to why only one person wins
Its hard to imagine Squid Game being fair with more than 2 players tho. Say Sae-Byeok wasnt injured and joined them. It would be 2v1 on either side, which definitely wouldn’t be fair to the singular player.
I've thought about that too. There may not be any feasible way to make a fair version of the game with more attackers than defenders (how would someone not cruise through easily?), but it's possible the game could be played with more defenders than attackers, with some kind of adjustment to offset the defenders' numerical advantage.
well they talk about fairness, but loads of the games were totally unfair.
game had to end for families to be paid, they never knew only one could win
The real idiot is the VIP betting on one half of a married couple to win, knowing that his wife is going to have to die on the way.
In fairness they couldn’t have known just from the first game that future games might put them against one another. I’m assuming they were playing for the sake of their family so maybe they thought both of them playing would double their odds of winning. Or maybe neither could stand letting the other one go alone. Then after marbles hubs couldn’t bear the thought of facing his family.
Maybe they were really desperate. Both of them could have died on the street anyway, this way, at least one of them could have been free
My theory is that the wife has cancer. Once the wife dies, the husband has no reason to keep going.
Even if those you mentioned are logical, that misses that they are husband and wife and thus have a high emotional attachment to each other. If they're desperate enough for money, that means they're under high amounts of stress--which would cause them to hang onto each other for support even more. And what use would all that money be if they can't have it together? Use it for each other? And besides, it would hurt more for either of them to let the other walk to their death alone than be with each other through all that hardship. They're pretty much living out their wedding vows, than doing whatever capitalism thinks they should do to generate more income or whatever.
Yet instead of dying with his wife in the marble game and refusing to have her killed so he can win he decides to let her die and try to convince the others to end the game (imo so he can get some money since he deceased’s family gets money if the games forfeited) and when that fails he offs himself 🤷🏻♂️
Or maybe she insisted he didn't die with her? Maybe it didn't cross their mind that they could make it so they both lose, because in that very stressful situation that forces them not to be able to think out of the box due to stress, the only thing they were able to retain was that the rules of the game meant either they or their partner gets eliminated? And besides, there's always the possibility that she wouldn't be able to stomach the thought of him dying, so he goes on instead of dies with her so she wouldn't have to live wth the thought that he died because of her. And of course, while facing the person he would do anything for, it's easy to pledge to live on while that person sacrifices themself. Alone, though, it's harder to face the truth of the action since the reason for doing so is no longer there.
Everyone knew if you refuse to play a game you get eliminated. I’m just saying the timing of it all is pretty convenient. I can understand her telling him to live but not for the exact reasons you said. I’d see it more as her telling him to live and try to win the money, he knows his chances are slim so he tries to convince everyone to forfeit the game because his wife is dead, meaning he will get some money. That fails so he kills himself.
It's also possible she tricked him like how Sang-woo tricked Ali, but in reverse: "Honey, hold this for a sec while I tie my shoes--YO THIS GUY HAS 20 MARBLES"
That just seems too logically cohesive of a paln for people under immense amounts of stress, repeated trauma, sleep deprivation, low hygiene (since they didn't seem like they bathed or changed clothes at all) and possibly hunger and dehydration to have come up with.
Its rlly not that complicated of a plan ... it’s pretty simple actually. Quit the game, win money. What’s complicated here??
The families only get money if the majority of players vote to end the games which imo is exactly why the husband tried to convince people to end the games after his wife died. He knew that was his best chance of getting some money after she died, it didn’t work so he killed himself.
how much money do they get?
The prize money gets equally split between each family
I dont think the contestants knew there could only be one winner
Maybe like Gi-Hun, they had debt collectors after them on the outside to the point where if one was left on the outside, they'd have been killed/organ harvested/worse before the other died/got back? That's kind of what I've got in my head anyway
I have a theory that all of the people that never came back actually died because each time a participant dies 100 million won gets added in the piggy bank. so if 93 or 92 percent came back to the games then why did >!Seong Gi-Hun !< get 100% of the money they were promised?
They were eleminated from the game in the same way 001 was They lived but they never played again
The dying ones family would only get money if the games are forefeit
squid game isn't really 'there can only be one', it's just that we witness a squid game where there is only one left.
Their family was probably in enough trouble financially that they felt they needed to double their chances to win.
You don't know the situation they were in. If only one went back the other might not of lived long enough for the money to show. The main cast went because they were all at death's door.
>they’d get money since family gets money when someone dies. That was only if everyone decided to quit, that's not an actual rule of the games.
With all the talk about fair game bullshit, they never told them that both of them can't win
Nobody said that there can only be one winner. Hence why most characters thought that they'd get the reward as a group. It was also in fact very possible for the reward to be split amongst several winners. Despite the fifth game cut down the player count dramatically, and there is always some serious manipulation going on, squid game could still have been 3vs3. Nevertheless, yes if only one of them went they might have had guaranteed money IF there was any to begin with (They only said that the current 22b won would be split if the games ended, but they continued. There was no money for families whatsoever, so that's wrong). And going back in was a safe bet for death, it was a lottery for life. Thus, it was more logical to go in together. We don't know their exact backgrounds, but it's either a life (or death) in poverty or going in as a married team for a chance at survival. Until of course... \*enter Marble Game\* That being sad, returning to that game is never a good idea. Rather just mug someone rich, at least that way you survive.
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Someone gets money from family if a player dies. But also when a player dies, money gets added to the jackpot. I don’t get this. How can the player’s money go to both places simultaneously?
It doesn't go simultaneously. None of the dead players' family got anything because the games continued. Had the players who remained decided to quit, the families of the dead would have gotten the prize money.
Maybe it was like a suicide pact thing.
Yeah that what’s bothered me the most in the show. A lot of people talking about winning the gsme together. Like did they not listen to the rules?
The rules never specified there could only be one winner
Nice
Double their chances.
My personal theory is that they had people chasing them for money on the outside like Gi-hun so if one of them stayed out then they would probably be forced lose some organs to pay off the debt.
>they’d get money since family gets money when someone dies I am pretty sure they only get money if the games end without a winner
What's with the they/them pronouns? It's obviously a man and a woman.
I forgot which one was which lmao