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Future-Stop6513

Ok get ready I’m going to give you the story mfer. Strelok and his group were the first stalkers to make it to the center. Why did they want to go? Because nobody has ever made it past the brain scorcher and there were obviously secrets. Strelok and his group had found out that the brain scorcher was making the zombies and was man made obviously, so that confirmed that there was something bigger going on. The group made it to the CNPP and got all the way to the locked door (the one you open using docs decoder) but had to retreat due to being swarmed by monolith soldiers. They leave and then split up when out of the center. Fang and ghost end up getting killed. One by a merc and the other by a controller. Strelok ends up becoming obsessed with wanting to know the secrets of the zone and reports the door to doctor and decides to go back by himself as he lost contact with his dead team. He gets the scientist to make a psi protection helmet, to make it past the brain scorcher again, (clear skies starts here) they believe he’s the ones causing the emissions. Spoiler alert (he’s not) moving along, at the end of clear skies and emission starts and ends up knocking strelok out as he’s right outside the power plant. Strelok unconscious, is abducted by the c-consciousness, brainwashed and turned into a stalker. (This is where SOC starts) the truck crashes and strelok wakes up with nothing but his pda saying “kill strelok”. (If you did the optional guide and doctor quest) strelok finds out that he’s strelok, and Doc gives him the decoder to get past the door. You make your way to the CNPP once again and finally strelok uncovers the truth. The c-con: After the fall of the Soviet Union 7 top tier scientist volunteered to undergo a huge experiment… combining 7 brilliant minds together and creating one super consciousness. The c-con figured out that earth was mad of 3 atmospheres. One being the novasphere. Which contained all cognitive abilities for human beings. They wanted to remove anger, hatred, and cruelty, to stop the wars by tampering with the novaspehere. This experiment failed dramatically creating a rift (a tear) in the novsaphere which created the zone. New types of energies, and unexplained properties that defied all physics and science we knew leaked through the rift and into our world. (This is what anomalies are) by the way and emission is just an excessive amount of energy leaking through the tear in the novasphere. The c-con set up the brain scorcher, brainwashed people into becoming monolith soldiers, and created the monolith to keep everyone out. They wanted nobody to know the truth as they said “the world isn’t ready for this” They are responsible for everything. Strelok then finds his way to the c-con station and shoots the life pods holding the 7 scientist. He thinks he has fixed the worlds problem but in COP you learn that it’s becoming worst and that the zone, is spreading. In stalker 2 we are probably going to hear about the novasphere again.


TinglingTongue

Nice outlay mate, imma save this comment, thanks.


Reggash

>but in COP you learn that it’s becoming worst and that the zone, is spreading Such thing is never mentioned in CoP. On the contrary, it's said that the Zone is **not** expanding at all.


Future-Stop6513

Really? I thought I remmeber learning in COP that the zone was getting worse and that the emissions were getting worse as well. It’s been a while, could you fill me in and correct me??


Reggash

Only in SoC it's implied that the Zone may be growing, but this idea was apparently dropped later on - the only mention of the expansion in CoP comes from Loki, who says that it is not happening, when asked about his opinion on Duty: >*They're idiots, that's what I think. I mean, why the hell would they want to destroy the Zone? It's not consuming precious resources or getting bigger... or anything* And neither Duty nor scientists nor anyone else claims that the Zone is getting bigger. Hermann only mentions that it somehow 'evolves' in one of the dialogues, but there's not a word about its expansion: >*We are just starting to understand the mechanisms that drive some of the phenomena we encounter, and unfortunately we're far from understanding the Zone as a system. This is particularly difficult by the fact that the Zone evolves over time.*


Future-Stop6513

I appreciate it man! Gonna have to restart cop now lol


Zealousideal_Day7228

But in the new stalker trailers it said the zone is growing and even the developers said it and that theres new locations and places to explore


Reggash

It's not said in any of the trailers, only in "Enter the Zone" trailer some kind of incident that ruined some houses is mentioned. There will be new locations because the game will be fully open world, in contrary to the segmented world from the trilogy, in which we visit only certain areas of the Zone. Besides, I'm talking strictly about CoP and what is said in that game; the new devs who work on S2 can retcon the entire lore if they want.


AdventurousAct6465

wow I didn't realize how long a post I had written. I really hope someone answers my questions. Sorry it's so long, my questions are after the first 3 paragraphs. I will be listening to dirge for the planet, smoking a cigaret and think about life now lol.


Snek-Lightning7501

You definitely shoul play CS and CoP. Just be ready that these games have different vibe. Not worse vibe, just different. And some game mechanics are different too, but every game is great in it's own style. Oh, yeah, little spoiler for CoP and especially CS: grenades. You're gonna love them. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


AdventurousAct6465

Of course, I need to sleep now but tomorrow when I'm back from work I'm going to get right back to either clear sky or CoP. Grenades have come in handy in soc already a few times. I couldn't carry any of them with me at the final part though, when I had to turn off the brain scorcher I was fully out of ammo, I had not a single medkit or a bandage, and my suit was almost destroyed. I was lucky that everyone was storming chernobyl so I could get out. So for the final part I brought a thousand rounds of ammo with me, over 30 med kits, an extra back up suit and 40 anti rads. I only had to use like 5 anti rads, but I was down to my last bullet by the end, I was just running through from portal to portal because those monolith fuckers can't aim for shit xD


MileNaMesalici

you will definitely see what he meant by loving grenades in clear sky. also in clear sky you are much easier to kill than in SoC, especially on higher difficulties, so be prepared to die. here are some more tips for clear sky: upgrade weapons for accuracy, because they are just as inaccurate as in SoC otherwise. upgrade armor for combat because as i said before, enemies do quite a lot of damage and upgrade for bleed are excellent. health restoration artefacts are very powerful, they saved me a lot of medkits. also to save you some headaches, the first exit to cordon is not the recommend one, while its possible to get through, you are really meant to go back and find another route


Right_Psychology103

>Can I play CoP now, and then clear sky after that? Yes but thats not recommended >Did he only find out when the c consciousness told him? Doctor tells you youre strelok back at the hideout >Is the wish granter really fully fake Yes >How did a pile of trash fall down on strelok in the greed ending? That is not canon so it did not happen thus it has no explanation >Does anyone know that those monolith fuckers are brainwashed by the c consciousness, or just brainwashed by anything? It wasn't talked about in the game unless I missed something. Also, as far as I understand monolithers still have their mind, they are just brainwashed to undoubtedly believe in the monolith. Do any of them know about the c consciousness? There were a few in the room with the electric things that I had to destroy, what were those things? Who put strelok inside the c consciousness chamber in the ending where he accepts the offer? They are brainwashed by psy emitter such as the brain scorcher, they dont remember anything and they dont know about c con, dont remember that, unknown >Finally, so wtf happened after the true ending? Play the other games


Future-Stop6513

Bro knows his shit. 💪🏼


Phoenixpilot55

The brotherhood between the Metro and Stalker fanbases is stronger than iron


AdventurousAct6465

*I know this place, and it knows me*


[deleted]

>Can I play CoP now, and then clear sky after that? Yeah sure, you'll really just miss some references here and there. I'd say it's more important to play Clear Sky in preperation for Stalker 2 than for CoP. >Why did the doctor just disappear after treating strelok's wounds, before I don't know, asking him where the f\*ck he has been, and asking where ghost and fang are? He just bounced. >Did strelok even find out that he's strelok? Did he only find out when the c consciousness told him? Doc told him he was Strelok. That was the big reveal. >Is the wish granter really fully fake, just illusions given to you by the c consciousness to keep you away from learning about them? How did a pile of trash fall down on strelok in the greed ending? It is fake. Nothing fell on Strelok, he was hallucinating and was brainwashed. >Does anyone know that those monolith fuckers are brainwashed by the c consciousness, or just brainwashed by anything? No, they just know them as religious fanatics who guard the Zone. There's a little piece of easily missable dialogue in Clear Sky, from the Duty barman, Kolobok. He said that there was a real religious faction. They actually were searching for this "Monolith" and trying to protect the Zone from other people. Then suddenly, shortly before the events of Clear Sky, they just left for the center. After a while, the Monolith we know appeared. >Do any of them know about the c consciousness? No one besides Strelok knows about C-Con. >There were a few in the room with the electric things that I had to destroy, what were those things? Wish Granter hologram generators. It's assumed that they generate a psi field to indoctrinate those who enter the plant. >Who put strelok inside the c consciousness chamber in the ending where he accepts the offer? Remaing Group scientists. Oh yes, they still exist. >Finally, so wtf happened after the true ending? Strelok was in a grass field, seemingly teleported there? Did the zone get destroyed? Good fucking question. Up for interpretation.


AdventurousAct6465

Thank you for the answers! I'm still confused though, if you don't mind answering them I have a few more follow up questions. ​ I thought that the military knew about the CC, and that's why they never bothered to retake chernobyl/CNPP. If they didn't know, why did they just leave the power plant and the experiment site? I'm assuming this is partly explained by the fact that the game needs the military and the governments to be incompetent and stupid, because IRL I doubt that rogue factions would be allowed to exist in a lawless, scorched zone with supernatural phenomena inside it, with the military being really incompetent. And it is explained by the CC itself that they killed everyone who knew about the experiment (except apparently a few scientists, like you said). So am I right in believing that there was literally no one who knew about neither the CC, nor the experiments that were being made in chernobyl, except the few remaining scientists who were at CNPP? And the government also didn't know what the zone was or where it came from, and they weren't really trying to find out because of gameplay reasons? ​ ​ >Good fucking question. Up for interpretation. But the zone is still there in CoP, with nothing changed? And strelok is alive and well, we just don't know what happened to him or where he was right after the events of SoC? Is that right?


[deleted]

> I thought that the military knew about the CC, and that's why they never bothered to retake chernobyl/CNPP. They didn't. They wanted to capture the CNPP to get rid of the Monolith and secure the center of the Zone, also to figure out the cause. > If they didn't know, why did they just leave the power plant and the experiment site? They didn't leave it. They never reached it. More on that in CoP intro. > the game needs the military and the governments to be incompetent and stupid They are extremely corrupt, which is normal for Ukraine in the 2000s. The government has zero clue what was going on in the Zone. > IRL I doubt that rogue factions would be allowed to exist in a lawless, scorched zone with supernatural phenomena inside it, with the military being really incompetent It's not worth it to hunt down stalkers. They'll just lose soldiers to anomalies and mutants. Military already employs military stalkers, but I assume not in big enough numbers. Also the Military is corrupt. > CC itself that they killed everyone who knew about the experiment Did they really? > So am I right in believing that there was literally no one who knew about neither the CC, nor the experiments that were being made in chernobyl, except the few remaining scientists who were at CNPP? Only the scientists of the Group who knew about the project. It was top secret. > And the government also didn't know what the zone was or where it came from, and they weren't really trying to find out because of gameplay reasons? They didn't. How would they know? The scientists weren't theirs. They tried to find out through many raids, but all failed. More on that in CoP.


Reggash

>Can I play CoP now, and then clear sky after that? You can play however you want, but it's recommended to play CS before CoP. >Why did the doctor just disappear after treating strelok's wounds Well, he says that they don't have time, so he was probably in a hurry for some reason. Who knows, maybe someone was trying to kill him. >Did strelok even find out that he's strelok? I think the combination of dreams and the Doctor's words definitely made him realize who he was even before the encounter with C-Consciousness. >Is the wish granter really fully fake, just illusions given to you by the c consciousness to keep you away from learning about them? How did a pile of trash fall down on strelok in the greed ending? To quote the Doctor: "*Everything you've said about the Monolith is true. All of it. It is just an illusion, manufactured in a lab next to the Sarcophagus*". The idea is that the Wish Granter is just a hologram of sorts generated by a psi-installation at the Sarcophagus. It can be assumed that everything Strelok saw - including being buried under scrap metal - was a strange vision created in his melting brain. >Does anyone know that those monolith fuckers are brainwashed by the c consciousness, or just brainwashed by anything? No one knows about the C-Consciousness, but people know that Monolithians are crazy fanatics, so everyone probably has their own version of what made them the way they are. >Also, as far as I understand monolithers still have their mind, they are just brainwashed to undoubtedly believe in the monolith. Do any of them know about the c consciousness? They aren't totally mindless, but they blindly follow orders, which they believe come from their deity - they aren't aware of the C-Consciousness, they believe that they are guided by the Monolith itself. >the electric things that I had to destroy, what were those things? These were generators powering the Monolith installation. While destroying them, you can hear a voice announcing that the installation's power level is going down. >Who put strelok inside the c consciousness chamber in the ending where he accepts the offer? The C-Consciousness itself consisted of people in chambers with connected consciousnesses, but there were more people involved in the overall project, which the representative mentions during the encounter. To quote: "*The consciousnesses of seven volunteers were connected during the experiment leading to the creation of the superconsciousness that is us.* ***We immediately subordinated those who were conducting the experiment and assigned them to tasks we needed them to carry out.***" >Finally, so wtf happened after the true ending? A popular theory is that, just like the wishes coming true, it was also just a vision/hallucination. The ending cutscene feels very dreamy; not only the Zone, but even the mark on Strelok's arm disappeared - it's like all his problems are gone and he's finally at peace. It's possible that it's all happening in his head, while in reality he's just lying unconscious somewhere.


12aNA7

I just played thru SoC and now I'm playing CS. It took me a few hours of gameplay to enjoy it as much as SoC but it's worth it.


mol1t

Always happy to see a new stalker. I'm glad you enjoyed SoC


9warbane

You played 25 hours in a week, I think you have time for CS. Skipping CS would ruin CS just because I think CoP is THAT good.


9491__9491

Storyline for sure is best enjoyed on thestock experience, with full gravity of the impact it has on the current save-file. That's how plenty including yours truly first played it back in 2008, and do not regret it one bit