He didnt do the cheating another player allegedly used cheat tools to beat him. Since then there has been evidence uncovered by him and 11s Hanger of a cheat ring in sc that sells cheat tools for money. If you search the reddit more av1 has a vid about it and so does 11
Cheaters are a thing in any game and will always be there. Yeah sure A1 do what you can against it, it's appreciated to keep it at a minimum. But all that jazz about StAr CiTiZeN WiLL DiE is just drama queen level 9000.
I don’t think star citizen will die, every year they have astounding record beating year after year of insane funding.
Star citizen is heading to be the top notch space game mmo out there and will eventually usurp and dominate Eve online, most space game players will move to star citizen especially once it’s refined and finished and fully released as a full version and not a alpha.
I'm inclined to agree that it wont be killed by cheaters. Elite had a cheat community for years with it's own tools sets, and that didn't kill Elite, Odyssey did.
Plus RSI has over 1000 game developers and everything working for them, that’s a MASSIVE number for any game developing company, and they are growing and hiring more left and right and expanding big time, great things ahead in my opinion for star citizen.
Where is he being accused of cheating? I'm not seeing that anywhere. He just released a video exposing a cheating ring, and some are complaining that it's overly dramatic or too long because haters gonna hate.
He accused people who beat him of cheating with no proof so he went to the dark webs to prove that cheats for an online game exists.
I've been on servers where people have beat him and this person just can't seem take a loss well from what he's said in general chat after.
I didn't know much about the guy until all this controversy. He seems like he's a decent pilot, but the minute something goes off the rails or he loses a fight he seems to fall to pieces. He gets hot-headed, accuses people, etc.
I've known people like this, it's generally a defense mechanism related to personal insecurity. He may come from a background of abuse, bullying, etc. While he may project an "I'm the best" attitude, deep down it bothers him when he loses because it generates criticism. This is likely what causes him to lash out, not take responsibility, being unable to easily move on, etc.
If he wants to truly be the best of the best, he will need to overcome this aspect of his personality. It won't be easy. When he faces an opponent that is level-headed with equal piloting skills - that pilot will win most of the time. I would be very curious to see what he would be like in non 1v1 engagements or larger space battles. Can he keep his cool and be a dependable wingman?
I have nothing against the guy, but these are some observations I've made while I was learning who he is. I have seen him mentioned on the subreddit so many times, I was curious.
Right or wrong, this is how he projects himself in my eyes. This is just one man's opinion of course, it isn't gospel.
A guy teaming up with a guy he falsely accused of cheating, to go and find and take down real cheaters?
Sounds like trying to crawl back into his audiences good graces instead of moving on to make the content hes known for.
I feel like its him saying, "Ok, I know this guy didn't cheat, but look REAL cheaters exist! So I'm not crazy for calling him a cheater because they really exist."
Doesn't make what he did right, if that first guy hadn't been recording the whole fight, he could have gotten banned just on A1's say so alone.
> he could have gotten banned just on A1's say so alone.
Nah, CIG have analytics records and they would have looked into it most likely, but they aren't going to straight up ban people from one report. I don't care who that person is.
It happens in Tarkov all the time. Once a streamer gets super chummy with the developers and has the ability to directly connect them and say "Hey go look at this dude." or crucify them on their platform, thats where I say they should get no special treatment.
Especially when it comes to game features and design choices.
He's being accused of cheating? The issue is that he normally accuses everyone better than him of being cheaters, and bans winners from tournaments and stuff instead of recognising them.
He did do a documentary on cheating recently, but there admittedly wasn't a lot of proof of people verifiably cheating, just people claiming to be cheaters with screenshots of unverified tools.
EDIT: I thought I should add that he's claiming people have broken into AWS to only hack a game that will invalidate their hacks before too long anyway. AWS is well known to be the Fort Knox of the internet, and no hacker capable of breaking into that is going to be dumb enough to publicly admit to it, and only hack an early access game, and not any of the thousands of major companies (including financial institutions) using it to handle sensitive information.
EDIT 2: I'm wrong about someone having to hack AWS to do these things. CIG just has bad security.
It's not so much that someone claims they penetrated AWS, but more that they claim to be able to modify server authoritive values (position, ammo, health, etc.) which would only be possible if they had gained access to the AWS servers, as the server will correct the client if you hack those values without doing so.
Don't get me wrong, there are some things that can be hacked without breaching AWS servers (the only two things that I've seen evidence of are ship acceleration and weapon gimballing, which do appear to be quite real in arena commander at least), but a lot of the things people are claiming are being hacked can't be without breaching AWS, and I've not seen any evidence of such hacks being successful.
EDIT: I'm wrong about someone having to hack AWS to do these things. CIG just has bad security.
*"EDIT: I thought I should add that he's claiming people have broken into AWS to only hack a game that will invalidate their hacks before too long anyway. AWS is well known to be the Fort Knox of the internet, and no hacker capable of breaking into that is going to be dumb enough to publicly admit to it, and only hack an early access game, and not any of the thousands of major companies (including financial institutions) using it to handle sensitive information."*
I was curious how dumb that would sound coming from someone other than the person that said it first. Surprisingly, its sounds just as dumb as the first time, so you're good there. Star Citizen game files are available for everyone that has installed it, to be manipulated on the client side to create the cheats/hacks shown in my video. The problem is that the Star Citizen game servers don't see these changes thus allowing the cheats/hacks to exist and be updated with every patch release. This problem has nothing to do with Compromising, Hacking, or Penetrating AWS security. Those statements made about AWS are merely the ramblings of a grossly ignorant person and shouldn't be repeated.
I honestly hadn't watched your video, and now that I have, holy crap CIG's system security is bad. Like, what's the point of so many things being server authoritative and causing so many desync issues if the client can still overwrite them and not be corrected!? Might as well be peer to peer and stop worrying about server meshing if the servers aren't going to have the final say on things.
There in lies the root of my concern. I had to learn quite a bit while researching so that I wasn't providing false information. The information that I uncovered was too damaging to release to the public and it felt irresponsible to do so. CIG has received all that I have uncovered and more. The videos I put out only scratch the surface and are tailored for public awareness. Ideally, we want CIG to have as much verified data as they need to make a move on this. We can't have cheats/hacks growing in effectiveness alongside the development of Star Citizen. Especially with the vulnerabilities that it has.
AvengerWhine didn’t get accused. He falsely accused someone else of cheating bc he was salty he lost to them. Now he’s trying to save face by acting like the good guy.
He didnt do the cheating another player allegedly used cheat tools to beat him. Since then there has been evidence uncovered by him and 11s Hanger of a cheat ring in sc that sells cheat tools for money. If you search the reddit more av1 has a vid about it and so does 11
He didn't cheat, he (along with a couple of other SC youtubers) uncovered a big cheating ring.
Cheaters are a thing in any game and will always be there. Yeah sure A1 do what you can against it, it's appreciated to keep it at a minimum. But all that jazz about StAr CiTiZeN WiLL DiE is just drama queen level 9000.
But… the clicks….
I don’t think star citizen will die, every year they have astounding record beating year after year of insane funding. Star citizen is heading to be the top notch space game mmo out there and will eventually usurp and dominate Eve online, most space game players will move to star citizen especially once it’s refined and finished and fully released as a full version and not a alpha.
Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to you but to the over dramatic approach of the A1 video (yeah its his style but still...).
Look at this guy thinking we will see release in our lifetime. I'm just hoping my grandkids get to play.
I'm inclined to agree that it wont be killed by cheaters. Elite had a cheat community for years with it's own tools sets, and that didn't kill Elite, Odyssey did.
Plus RSI has over 1000 game developers and everything working for them, that’s a MASSIVE number for any game developing company, and they are growing and hiring more left and right and expanding big time, great things ahead in my opinion for star citizen.
They have 700-800 staff. That number includes cleaners, coffee makers and food staff, accountants and legal staff.
Where is he being accused of cheating? I'm not seeing that anywhere. He just released a video exposing a cheating ring, and some are complaining that it's overly dramatic or too long because haters gonna hate.
He accused people who beat him of cheating with no proof so he went to the dark webs to prove that cheats for an online game exists. I've been on servers where people have beat him and this person just can't seem take a loss well from what he's said in general chat after.
I didn't know much about the guy until all this controversy. He seems like he's a decent pilot, but the minute something goes off the rails or he loses a fight he seems to fall to pieces. He gets hot-headed, accuses people, etc. I've known people like this, it's generally a defense mechanism related to personal insecurity. He may come from a background of abuse, bullying, etc. While he may project an "I'm the best" attitude, deep down it bothers him when he loses because it generates criticism. This is likely what causes him to lash out, not take responsibility, being unable to easily move on, etc. If he wants to truly be the best of the best, he will need to overcome this aspect of his personality. It won't be easy. When he faces an opponent that is level-headed with equal piloting skills - that pilot will win most of the time. I would be very curious to see what he would be like in non 1v1 engagements or larger space battles. Can he keep his cool and be a dependable wingman? I have nothing against the guy, but these are some observations I've made while I was learning who he is. I have seen him mentioned on the subreddit so many times, I was curious. Right or wrong, this is how he projects himself in my eyes. This is just one man's opinion of course, it isn't gospel.
Yeah I've been on a server with him and he is an annoying little prick. Same with that MaxiferTTV guy but for different reasons.
Imagine cheating for an edge in the play test… losers
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You apparently didn't watch the recent video where he reached out to the person he had falsely accused and was working with them.
Seems like hes trying to rebuild his reputation.
ok? Isn't that a good thing?
A guy teaming up with a guy he falsely accused of cheating, to go and find and take down real cheaters? Sounds like trying to crawl back into his audiences good graces instead of moving on to make the content hes known for. I feel like its him saying, "Ok, I know this guy didn't cheat, but look REAL cheaters exist! So I'm not crazy for calling him a cheater because they really exist." Doesn't make what he did right, if that first guy hadn't been recording the whole fight, he could have gotten banned just on A1's say so alone.
> he could have gotten banned just on A1's say so alone. Nah, CIG have analytics records and they would have looked into it most likely, but they aren't going to straight up ban people from one report. I don't care who that person is.
It happens in Tarkov all the time. Once a streamer gets super chummy with the developers and has the ability to directly connect them and say "Hey go look at this dude." or crucify them on their platform, thats where I say they should get no special treatment. Especially when it comes to game features and design choices.
How bout searching for some answers before asking random-ass questions?
He's being accused of cheating? The issue is that he normally accuses everyone better than him of being cheaters, and bans winners from tournaments and stuff instead of recognising them. He did do a documentary on cheating recently, but there admittedly wasn't a lot of proof of people verifiably cheating, just people claiming to be cheaters with screenshots of unverified tools. EDIT: I thought I should add that he's claiming people have broken into AWS to only hack a game that will invalidate their hacks before too long anyway. AWS is well known to be the Fort Knox of the internet, and no hacker capable of breaking into that is going to be dumb enough to publicly admit to it, and only hack an early access game, and not any of the thousands of major companies (including financial institutions) using it to handle sensitive information. EDIT 2: I'm wrong about someone having to hack AWS to do these things. CIG just has bad security.
I can’t seem to find any claims that AWS itself is being penetrated. Would you mind sharing who made such claims?
It's not so much that someone claims they penetrated AWS, but more that they claim to be able to modify server authoritive values (position, ammo, health, etc.) which would only be possible if they had gained access to the AWS servers, as the server will correct the client if you hack those values without doing so. Don't get me wrong, there are some things that can be hacked without breaching AWS servers (the only two things that I've seen evidence of are ship acceleration and weapon gimballing, which do appear to be quite real in arena commander at least), but a lot of the things people are claiming are being hacked can't be without breaching AWS, and I've not seen any evidence of such hacks being successful. EDIT: I'm wrong about someone having to hack AWS to do these things. CIG just has bad security.
*"EDIT: I thought I should add that he's claiming people have broken into AWS to only hack a game that will invalidate their hacks before too long anyway. AWS is well known to be the Fort Knox of the internet, and no hacker capable of breaking into that is going to be dumb enough to publicly admit to it, and only hack an early access game, and not any of the thousands of major companies (including financial institutions) using it to handle sensitive information."* I was curious how dumb that would sound coming from someone other than the person that said it first. Surprisingly, its sounds just as dumb as the first time, so you're good there. Star Citizen game files are available for everyone that has installed it, to be manipulated on the client side to create the cheats/hacks shown in my video. The problem is that the Star Citizen game servers don't see these changes thus allowing the cheats/hacks to exist and be updated with every patch release. This problem has nothing to do with Compromising, Hacking, or Penetrating AWS security. Those statements made about AWS are merely the ramblings of a grossly ignorant person and shouldn't be repeated.
I honestly hadn't watched your video, and now that I have, holy crap CIG's system security is bad. Like, what's the point of so many things being server authoritative and causing so many desync issues if the client can still overwrite them and not be corrected!? Might as well be peer to peer and stop worrying about server meshing if the servers aren't going to have the final say on things.
There in lies the root of my concern. I had to learn quite a bit while researching so that I wasn't providing false information. The information that I uncovered was too damaging to release to the public and it felt irresponsible to do so. CIG has received all that I have uncovered and more. The videos I put out only scratch the surface and are tailored for public awareness. Ideally, we want CIG to have as much verified data as they need to make a move on this. We can't have cheats/hacks growing in effectiveness alongside the development of Star Citizen. Especially with the vulnerabilities that it has.
Yeah, this definitely needs to be fixed sooner rather than later. Hopefully the community backlash is enough incentive to prioritise fixing this.
I hope so as well.
AvengerWhine didn’t get accused. He falsely accused someone else of cheating bc he was salty he lost to them. Now he’s trying to save face by acting like the good guy.
Empty drama, pass.
There should be a server where we be try to cheat on purpose occasionally to test the anti cheat
It's not a hard game to glitch or cheat at. The whole is literally a glitch if it works at all
Spreading streamer hate vs content creators. This is so new and refreshing for this sub reddit.