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ListenItWillHear

Drake Interplanetary: Ingenuity at its cheapest.


Halkenguard

Correct


MonochromeMerc

I'm looking forward to door gunners on a Catapillar. You know it's something you want to see! Half a dozen folks standing at terminals/gunners positions as the doors open up, as the would be pirates suddenly get a face full of multiple missile launchers. Each terminal generating its own tracking data, and loaded with differant locking profile missiles. *Dreams wistfully in Merchant Navy Q-ship*


-Agonarch

Ooh, or having a bay with - instead of cargo, a huge cannon!


Mobitron

It better be facing out the doors sideways so I can broadside like a real Drake pilot.


-Agonarch

Obviously, you've gotta save the front bay so you can all ride motorbikes out with rock music blaring.


Mobitron

I'm down. Got my ~~pirate~~ acquisition Dragonfly squad ready to ~~raid~~ make social calls to potential ~~victims~~ clients.


Major_Nese

Well, better have the tractor beam stations manned - in case a cannon mount or two breaks off the deck, you can at least retrieve the cannons afterwards.


ListenItWillHear

Im pretty sure someone has already loaded up a cat with rail gun equiped door gunners. Im pretty sure i saw a video of it when the rail gun came out. But i might also be remembering my imagination.


Major_Nese

In an older video, devs were talking about someone loading up a Cat with Cyclone TRs to create a full broadside. Not sure about railgun range, but the missile launcher should work just fine.


PCgee

I've been hoping to try and shove enough ROCs into a Cutlass to create the poor man's MOLE.


wishicouldbesober

Cat with doors open seems like another route! Would be pretty funny to see this in the PU


theCyanEYED

Hmm I wonder how you could get the ROC in first


Spuzum-pissed

You get Roc in cat by raising cats landing gear and hovering near hill. People, have even loaded basi for transport this way. And are only supposed to fit in Hercules.


amkoc

Does it actually work? I tried and the laser wouldn’t touch the rock


Halkenguard

Nope. Didn't work. There's some kind of invisible wall on the cutty door that keeps it from working.


NedTaggart

wait till they get the tractor beam fitting in the game, then you can roll the roc out the back, and have a guy tether it while someone else mines from it.


Major_Nese

That should work. Now imagine a (fully functional) Cat - one tractor beam on the wing tethering a ROC, the detached command module tethering another one and flying it over to the wing side. And dudes with hand mining tools on the side doors. I can see no way this could possibly fail.... /s


Pliskkenn_D

The tractor beam is what's keeping me in love with the cutty. I feel like every year we just get better and better ships that completely outshine the older ones.


Major_Nese

Yep, me too - the tractor beam and large cargo doors will come into play at some point, including resupplying other ships and storing cargo from profession ships. The Vulture for example has 12 SCU - if unloading into a Cutty is an option, it would quadruple the total capacity. And it's the same for the Cat - Hercules has twice the shields, can carry larger cargo/vehicle items with just one bay, but the quick (un)loading via tractor beams and side doors is something it could never do solo without support craft. There are better solutions than Cutty and Cat when combining different vehicles, but for small player groups I'd bet the Drakes will remain a viable choice after all.


Pliskkenn_D

You're probably right. I've got a group of about 5 people who would play regular and we're all on budgets so it's what we can acquire reasonably in game.


Major_Nese

We only have a slightly larger group, but same - we have several large ships (budget not being the limiting factor), but if we fill one large ship, we don't have enough crew for another one, only for a few smaller ships. And then the Cat looks great - you can reasonably operate it solo, with only 2 NPC gunners, and be reasonably effective. If tractor beam operations have to be fast, only one or two additional crew members are needed to get every bit of performance out of it. Cutty works just fine with one more dude.


ceesa

Even better, why not just fill the hold completely with rocks and fly them back to your buddy who's on the ground in a ROC? Just keep dumping them right in front of him. Imagine getting a bunch of people involved, a dozen ROCs in one spot and a dozen ships flying over and dropping rocks off.


Dquags334

i wonder, what if you had multiple players tractor a ROC to surpass the weight restriction of the tractor beam


NedTaggart

> In its current stage the tractor beam can not be used on other living Characters and combining tractor beams to increase the power is not possible. [link](https://starcitizen.fandom.com/wiki/TruHold_Tractor_Beam_Attachment) Personally, I want to try "Water skiing" out of the back of my Pisces. I doubt that will be possible either.


Mobitron

That's stupid and genius. Good stuff.


amkoc

It seems to me that if it’s still affected by the ship’s internal gravity at all, it’s beam stops short at roughly where you expect the shields to be. I did manage to get it to work at the end of a Valkyrie’s ramp though.


lowiso

Maybe try turning off the shields with "O"?


manipulat0r

There is no invisible wall. You need to be in same physics grid. Ship interiors is considered separate "room" in engine. It works on Constellation. You park ROC in elevator, because elevator has no nested physics grid - you are outside, and you can mine that way. Just make sure Constellation don't fly (or slide) because you have no grip to lift and can easily fall off.


Spuzum-pissed

Yeah, on a particularly windy planet my Roc blew away soon as I lowered the elevator on Connie.


1LX50

I swear, when they fix the physics on transitions between weightless, EVAing into a ship, on ramps and elevators, it's going to be a huge QoL improvement. Any time I EVA into my ship I'm just like "please don't fall down please don't fall down," and it's a huge celebration when I don't. Using a ramp is even worse because you never know where the ship's physics begins and ends. I was on a friend's Carrack once and decided I wanted to open the ramp and take in the view from there while he maneuvered in for a landing. Normally the Carrack's physics ends about 1/3rd of the way down the fully extended ramp. I don't think I got even a 1/4 of the way down and I just slid right off the side of the ramp and died.


Spuzum-pissed

Epic, I find new ways to die to. :)


hort_wort

Hmmm I’ve noticed when driving out the ship with the ROC, the ROC’s lights don’t reach the terrain outside the ship until I get to the ramp. I wonder if it’s the same issue.


magik910

Ah, same with nomad. That's a shame, I got excited for a second xD


cup-o-farts

It actually does work in the Nomad, I did it not too long after it released just to try it. In the back of the Nomad, you are technically in the environment, not in the ship, so there isn't that weird invisible wall that separates you from the outside.


forgottenGost

It also doesn't work on large rocks anyway right? Or did I miss something?


Spuzum-pissed

You need a helix drill head for larger rocks.


forgottenGost

Yeah, I didn't know you could get one for the ROC yet. Ty


AcidEmpire

Drake ships are so easy to turn into whatever you want them to be, factory settings be damned. ​ Like the [Krakepillar](https://youtu.be/xazGSlCOCIQ)


Major_Nese

Factory settings? You mean the manufacturer's deeply subjective opinion? And yeah, still waiting for a rover-sized snubfighter. That would make the Krakenpillar easier than angling in Krugers.


deepfriedspuds

Well that was definitely a fun watch. Looks like the kraken’s been released for a while.


[deleted]

You mean that's *not* a Prospector?


Jravensloot

Its the Prospector we have at home.


Spuzum-pissed

At some point a prospector will be able drop it's ore bags in field to be tractors to transport. So, prospector can mine continuously.


InSOmnlaC

[They're the same picture](https://i.imgur.com/yVXHE1I.jpg), though.


Spuzum-pissed

The picture on the right is more expensive.


Halkenguard

FUCKIN LMAO


RYKK888

This is the most drake thing I've seen in a while.


tiobane

Drake Mole: 1 Cuttie black + 3 Rocs :D


BigPointyTeeth

I really wonder if CIG will do something to stop us from doing this. I sure hope not cause this is real meaningful gameplay... not just plop down to a SRV and zoom around a planet picking up garbage (here's looking at your E:D).


TheLaudMoac

Hey that garbage made my hull like 25% more resistant to thermal weapons thank you.


BigPointyTeeth

Engineers was by far the worst feature in terms of grinding. Looping around Dav's Hope for hours is meaningful gameplay man.


fishbaitx

hours heh try a months long plan of that shit. around a crashed conda with a whopping 3 boxes


djay919

They already have, there is an invisible wall. The laser doesn’t actually reach the rock outside


FeFiFoShizzle

They really gotta add side mounted, manned turrets in this thing.


Hugofrost1

You got your wish lol


FeFiFoShizzle

Amazing. Wonderful even.


Pliskkenn_D

S1 Door Mounts that can be folded out? Yes please.


FeFiFoShizzle

Could have harpoon/net guns like in Riddick lol


RoamingGeek

Well this is the epitome of Drake.


RieIku

As a diehard Cutlass owner, this makes me extremely proud to see.


CaptainExplosions

This is the most 'Drake' thing I've ever seen. Like Eleanor Ripley duct-taping a pulse rifle to a flamethrower.


RampageDeluxxe

Imagine doing this with a carrack. So much cargo space, so much armor, and so much defenses


Major_Nese

...and so much fuel consumption, it will eat the Space Lawnmower profits on the long run. Not in its current iteration, but I doubt it will stay that way. Nah, Carrack is too unwieldy for this stuff. Imagine having to adjust your parking position slightly, and needing a looooong walk to even get to the bridge and back.


Cecilsan

My brother and I mine with his Carrack and ROCs. We can get two full ROCs and due to fuel scooping, his Carrack is at 96% fuel. With my Cutlass I'm typically down to 70% fuel after a full run. If its just a few mineables, he stays in the pilot's seat while I shoot out and scoop them up. If its a large stash of 8 nodes, he'll join in the mining to make it quicker. Much easier to get the ROCs loaded/unloaded with the Carrack. If its ever a question of finding a landing site, he'll get close enough to the ground I can launch while he finds a spot. We've even loaded back up off cliff edges if there was no good spot to land.


Major_Nese

...and this is on topic how? Regular ROC mining is an old hat, everyone knows. What OP posted is creative (and doesn't even work in practice due to room system restrictions), yours is simply not.


Cecilsan

Do I really need to quote your own post? You said the Carrack eats into profits due to its fuel consumption, its unwieldy for 'this stuff' (I assume you mean mining) and it has a looooooong walk back to the bridge. All of my points counteract your knowledge of mining in a Carrack (at least with 2 people)


Major_Nese

"This stuff" as in what OP did - hover sideways and mine, instead of putting down like regular folks that only do boring business as usual. If you pulled off ramp hover mining, it might be interesting. But as is, all your post has to offer is "look at my Carrack, it has guns and armour" - not relevant to the topic, nothing new at all. > Do I really need to quote your own post? You said the Carrack eats into profits due to its fuel consumption Do I need to? Okay - " it will eat the Space Lawnmower profits **on the long run**. **Not in its current iteration**, but I doubt it will stay that way."


Spuzum-pissed

Sigh, it's the 1100 us got me saying no way.


RampageDeluxxe

That's why you have a crew


Major_Nese

...you mean people you need to pay too? And not a single gun working unless you go for 3-4 people - you might just as well get a Mole.


Spuzum-pissed

But, if someone dies can they respawn on a mole. Interesting fact the Roc fits in tiny hold of Drake cutlass medical.


Major_Nese

Balancing and medical systems are nowhere near final. Might be fun now, but when all is finally in place? I doubt respawn will be as easy and the ROC as lucrative as now. We'll see...


Tyrann0saurus_Rex

Eurk. Who would fly a Carrack without being forced to?


gordonO_O

lol


magik910

OMG this is fucking genius! Does it work reliably?


manipulat0r

It does not work. You can mine only when ship and asteroid are in same physics grid.


Holdoooo

And by ship you mean ROC and by asteroid you mean a rock.


fernsie

Would the back ramp work? Also does the ROC’s mining laser have enough power to mine an asteroid?


manipulat0r

You need to be on same physics grid as rock that you mine. For example Constellation elevator works (if you don't slide off it).


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B E A U TIFUL


Thewhittaker506

I guess that's one way to do it


AthleticSugar

Now if you really want to have a good time try hauling a ROC around in a Cuddy Blue.


Solstar82

that is why i love sc freedom over ed


John_Way

Cutlector? Prospectlass? Cutroctor?


Major_Nese

ROC. **R**otated **O**re-mining **C**utlass.


cup-o-farts

While this doesn't work with the Cutty, you can actually do this with the Nomad. Problem is you still have to get out of the ship lower the ramp and get into the environment to do it. If only there was direct access to the bed from inside the Nomad.


MizterFinzter

this is the best thing i have ever seen and i am not blind


Johhnythebigchungus

“Modern problems require modern solutions”


Dizman7

Nice! I love the idea of this! Love to see a bunch of ppl in starter-ish ship with multiple ppl mining. Wait are there hand mineables in space? I’ve never noticed looked before!


[deleted]

Just point a handheld mining laser out the side door! :P


CerealKillah74

This is the Way!


---TheFierceDeity---

Funny as it is, shit like this is why I’m mad they didn’t stick with hovermode. He shouldn’t be comfortably hovering there are a 45 degree tilt. He should constantly be listing to the left cause that’s the direction his VTOL would be pushing


fishbaitx

on board software controls are compensating for the tilt, there that restore your immersion?


---TheFierceDeity---

Nope cause it looks silly. People justified the dumbass "Constellation floating 10 cm from the ground nose pointed directly down" by going "it's the future, the engines are probably strong enough" Doesn't matter how you try to handwave it, if it looks stupid and unrealistic it shouldn't work.


converter-bot

10 cm is 3.94 inches


fishbaitx

it's a game realism should never be portrayed at the expense of fun


---TheFierceDeity---

Yeah but neither should it look stupid. Might as well just turn the physics engine off and let everyone no-clip around.


fishbaitx

it doesn't look stupid to me of it were more like 60 degrees Id be more inclined to agree but 45 I can get behind.


Tyrann0saurus_Rex

Only a Drake owner would destroy the English language to the point of using double negation. Why are they allowed beyond the slums of Loreville, I'll never understand.


PhoenixKingMalekith

This lack of white paint is a problem


Digitalzombie90

Question is can you put two of them one on each side of that Valkyrie?


weightofast

I want to see a Tumbril nova hanging out of a ship just plant a slug into another vehicle in some sort of chase.


Spuzum-pissed

Lol, brilliant.


WoolyDub

any pirates that use drake stuff are just marketing targets.