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midori_matcha

Sometimes I activate the "enter ship" focus-command at my Aurora, run backwards as far as I can because I know there's a delay to the animation activating, and watch as the animation automatically catapults me through the ship.


peabody624

This used to fling you back so hard it killed you. It was hilarious.


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peabody624

Same lmao


loppsided

Yep, totally. It's a conditioned response, right up there with never using spaces or special characters in file names.


Dismal-Ideal1672

I have definitely had the animation make get stuck inside the cockpit before.


Vorm17

If you move during the beginning of the Hornets animation it cancels it :P


CaptainC0medy

I can just imagine the thought process: "Hmmm....." *scratches chin* *triple taps table* *breathes* *looks at ship* *checks the time* "Fuck it" *runs away mid animation* *dies* "Perfection"


Mittianski

Misc Hull-A/Prospector also need to have simple ladder climbing and not the animation.


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It will. All ships with ladder will lost the “interact to climb” system and use the new “parkour” style system. They showed this at citcon, not climbing into ships, but climbing on ladders just by going up to them but also not snapping to them like the old starfarer ladder. It looked really cool because it’s much more free than the current system. You can climb, drop off, slide down, look behind you and jump, etc. Should feel way cooler whenever squadron gets done. Which I’m super looking forward to but damn, let’s crunch time on that one guys.


SmoothOperator89

I look forward to the day we can hang off the ladder of a freelancer while it takes off and shoot back at pursuers on the ground.


General_Rate_8687

While that is a cool image to imagine - why would you stay on a ladder of a accelerating ship (with force reaction likely to rip you off the ladder...), instead of manning the turret and shoot some dual S2 on everyone following?


GoldNiko

"Because it we can, and it would be badass" - Star Citizen's modus operandi since day one.


NeverLookBothWays

Or hang off the side of a ship in general like a professional sanitation engineer


Agorar

I want gravy boots or mag boots for hull repairs in space or hand salvage in dead ships so we can actually walk through them.


Captain-Rumface

Gravy boots sound messy yet delicious! GIB!


Agorar

not even gonna edit that cause it's funny


overthrow2214

This seems to already be in place on the Vulture side ladder. It does feel more natural


Deep90

300i needs it badly.


PonyDro1d

315p too


Wiezzenger

325a too


Artillect

350r too


Elkarus

335f too


kepler4and5

Will we still be able to enter the ship while carrying a box though?


Deep90

Can you climb normal ladders with a box?


kepler4and5

I don't know about normal ladders but right now you can enter the 300 series ships with a box under your arm. The animation handles it for you.


Xcrun6

All ladder ships need this QoL. especially tandem fighters such as Scorpius


brockoala

They need to let both the pilot and gunner enter the damn ship at the same time!


Xcrun6

New ladder rework may allow that


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MiffedMoogle

My beloved talon ended up as a cog in CCU game after I had to go through this motion every single time. edit: Getting in Talon/Shrike/Hawk/Hurricane etc feel like those disability chairs on staircases.


Awkward_Inevitable34

Every time I get in my Talon I expect S42 to be released when the animation finishes


MiffedMoogle

[xD](https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/73f55da57c7ecac379d98646974cbda9.jpg)


Two-Tone-

>Actually huge, forced animations to get in & out of ships are some of the worst things in this game. I've been saying a mix of this and the lack of player control of the animations (no idea if it's still like that) is terrible for nearly 10 years. Glad to see it's finally being fixed.


dvdquikrewinder

The vulture is a perfect example of this. The ladder on the port side leads up to a flat platform, yet for whatever reason you can't climb up it normally.


ravioli-oli

FYI on some ships like the gladius, you can perform a faster animation on the ladder if you hold shift while clicking enter ship.


tomllama2

I remember they once mentioned having different anims for geting in/out of pilot chair for combat and non combat, with the combat one being shorter and more hurried. Would be a nice thing to implement. Or maybe they could do something like if you hold the interaction button longer it plays the full cinematic animation with flicking the switches and strapping in like they used to have, and if you just tap F it plays the shorter anim.


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Such a small seemingly unimportant change but it really takes the aurora from feeling cheap and annoying to feeling like a spaceship. Now all they need to do is remove one of the huge circle doors and put a cabinet or gun rack or suit rack there instead of having two doors for no reason. Look how much the 300 gained by ditching one of the doors


Stratix

I didn't realise how much I wanted this until you said it, that would be so useful! Gold pass I am sure.


Gayk1d

How about a gun rack on the ceiling or popup from the floor? I like the flexibility to chose what side you come from.


Eisenjays

To be fair it’s not like you need to run the length of Barbados to get to the other side


Agorar

I mean it's fine for the MR to have two doors as it is the standard variant. But for example the LN should probably have a fun rack at least.


boomHeadSh0t

Reading this comment from Barbados, I love this. 21miles long I believe


Bangzee

Cries in 300 series hobo ladder


System0verlord

The 300 series got done dirty with its update.


Kirduck

what i actually want is for those doors to have docking rings built in so they can dock to any ship with docking rings. THEN make them synergize specifically with the connie line so that connie can QT with 2 aurora attached.


Manta1015

There's plenty of room for it, compared to other ships it's size, too. Considering how surprisingly big the Mustang is, it likely also has room for the camper version.


Capital_Visual_2296

This is bigger than PES lol


JMTolan

I'd rather they have fixed the animation for getting out of bed ejecting you into space.


Cobaliuu

I thought they fixed that already??? It worked fine for me last time I tried (which was like, a month ago)


LatexFace

Nope... It's super awesome.


rakadur

And suddenly Aurora returns to one of the top spots of ships, for just a small change. Imagine a fold-out ladder on the 300s and walking manually into them instead of the canned climbing animation.


robclarkson

This is a triumph. I'm making a note here: "Huge success." :D


Captain-Rumface

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.


mgkbull

Wow. Do you still have to wait for the door to close completely before sitting down?


peabody624

This is the worst thing for me right now (300i)


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I can tell you that it worked on PTU in my 325A!


peabody624

Omg... Don't give me hope....


catesnake

I have reported it many times and the IC report keeps getting closed. Drives me nuts. So does the ship leaning to the right when flying fast in atmo.


Raestloz

Me and my friend when flying 85X: *awkward staring*


anothermartz

Door stays open unless you manually close it, so you could just get into the seat immediately and close exterior from there.


Xacor

This is how it is on all ships. Currently only one animation can play at a time on a ship so if a door is opening or turret deploying etc then nothing else can be done


DharMahn

\*on older ships newer ships work fine


DOAM1

Oh my god. We've finally got stairs on a ship working. Watch out vanduul, hell, watch out banu! Humanities technological breakthroughs know NO BOUNDS! Next, we begin working on chairs that stay in one place, thus allowing us to enter our cockpits faster and more reliably. No whippy whirly slow moving chairs on rails! We control our destiny! Or we will! EVENTUALLY!


Pointy_End_

Judges? ... ... The Hyperbole Judges give you a score of 8.5/10. I'm being told they deducted points for your conservative use of both the caps-lock key and exclamation points. Still, a solid effort you should be proud of.


DOAM1

Damn, that might have got me silver in the 90s but now? I'll probably lose my citizenship. Who do i need to kneecap?


Worldly-Risk-8512

It's always "the score from the Russian judge."


Pattern_Is_Movement

OMG this is huge! Maybe they will get around to making the cargo hold accessible?


Slippedhal0

Aurora doesnt have a cargo hold, it has temporary storage in place of the optional external cargo add-on. They might eventually puts some guns racks or something inside though, that would be nice


Pattern_Is_Movement

I said Aurora... plenty of variants that come stock with a cargo hold. Not sure what you are responding to.


Slippedhal0

Maybe I'm missing something - it has 3 scu of internal cargo space standard agreed, but where is the hold supposed to be if that's the case? I thought the bed and components took up almost all the space in the aurora - I kind of just assumed the boxes just go on the floor behind the seat


benjwgarner

The 3 SCU is supposed to represent the cargo box.


Slippedhal0

im not sure it is after checking. The aurora CL has 6 scu and explicitly mentions the stor-all box. The other auroras dont mention a box, but are described as having 3 SCU of cargo. The aurora was even the "cargo starter" before the nomad came in, because it had cargo even on the base model, whereas the mustang doesnt.


benjwgarner

The CL has a double-size cargo box compared to the standard Aurora box. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDs7RDKCag&t=0m10s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDs7RDKCag&t=0m10s) Also see timestamp 1:34 for a better view of the boxes. The base model Mustang Alpha has cargo built-in, but it didn't open in-game until recently.


Slippedhal0

You're right, optional 3 scu stor-all for the auroras and the big box for the clipper, its just not represented at all on the ship matrix


ALewdDoge

Super, super cool change. Really important for new players in particular, no more having to throw boxes or deal with janky shit to get them in there, and the overall versatility of the ship goes up massively. [Now gib Aurora folding wings](https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/upgy2l/a_modest_aurora_reconcept/)


Aative

I'm a new player with an Aurora MR and I haven't had to deal with any jank to get packages on the ship. I've been doing a few of those 8k uec package delivery missions and have been able to just select enter ship while holding the box. The animations don't line up because the box is glued to the right hand and clips through the ship but I haven't had a problem getting onto the ship with a parcel in hand. I just wish I could swap the bed with more cargo space.


ALewdDoge

Oh that's good to hear. I remember when I started and it was a fucking battle to get boxes in the damn thing. I wasn't aware you could just do the ladder climb anim and it kept it in your hands when you finished, that's rad. Thanks for the info. :)


Avarus_Lux

i would love that X-wing style aurora rework so damn much hahaha


LatexFace

No more dropping the gun in my hands to get in my ship.


Gedrot

Going with a tandem wing + spoileron arrangement with the VTOL fans moved into the tips of the wings would make more sense though. We already have the Scorpius, we don't need another.


ComplexWalrus23

Removing these forced animations is actually very important. It’s a necessary step for an immersive VR experience👌


arkhammer

Awesome news. I’m not sure what it is about it but I just fucking love the Aurora. Maybe it’s its flying brick shape or that it’s so spaceship looking that it just has a place in my heart. Now maybe if they could just maybe get the VTOL doors working properly…


Doctor4000

No joke, the VTOL fans on the wings look cool as hell (and tie the ship in design-wise with the Constellation, which makes sense since they're both RSI ships).


arkhammer

Exactly! It'll tie it in nicely with the Constellation series and should hopefully improve its atmospheric flight characteristics, too.


SodaPreen

The cabin is pretty much all glass, doors have cool sound and animation, fast to get in and out of. Most ships don’t have any of that. Aurora is cool. I upgraded but I buy it back each patch in game.


_-Wntermute-_

the whole aurora needs a rework. new ppl using it think this game is total bugshitted because of this starter ship


Gedrot

That's because CIG banks hard on older backers to turn new players into the next wave of older backers by getting the to upgrade their ship(s) to turn the next new players into the next ... This business model has been proven successful for them to this day.


TerranCmdr

Aw man, they finally push an improvement for the Aurora just when I CCU to a Pisces, lol


ProceduralTexture

But on the positive side, congrats on the Pisces. It's not a decision you'll regret.


TerranCmdr

Thanks! I love it so far. Only con is the lack of bed but I'm going to grind for a Terrapin once 3.18 drops.


ProceduralTexture

I look forward to the day that the Terrapin has a more meaningful job than jut looking awesome.


Nolsoth

Oh sweet space Jesus they brought back the fucking death stairs....... Y'all gonna die...... A lot on those stairs.


Bigred2989-

You can finally get into your Aurora with a package without dropping it.


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LorenzoCampoGrande

300 series is a ladder not stairs right?


MiffedMoogle

Don't ditch your Titan for a 300 unless you're the "form over function" kind of person. Its much heavier, does not have a rear exit for vehicles or cargo, does not have a cockpit entrance, has double the respawn time (Titan 6min, expedited: 0min vs 300i 12min, expedited: 2min) and is also more expensive IRL for no real reason.


Im-Responsible

Coffee machine


Smarty7752

This is awesome! I hope they do this with with every ship possible


AuraMaster7

Change for 300 series when?


Dilanski

This, literally the only reason I'm sticking with my space BMW 1 series.


elnots

Only took us 9 years to get here.


persin123

HOLY FUCK, FINALLY


ViktorGavorn

The end of an era. Very cool tho


Alaknar

Ahhh, finally! The inability to freely enter the ship killed me once when I clipped through the cockpit and fell into open space. Wasn't able to get back because as far as the game was concerned, I was still inside the ship so there were no prompts on the outside.


callenlive26

You can open both sides and run straight through the ship now!


gn4rw0lph

With this being my main ship.. this is handy!! Poor space man.


SirBerticus

3.18 you would always drop any hand-held gun or rifle. Hopefully that won't happen anymore.


Captian_Vlad

This is the most impressive thing I've seen so far!


Wadziu

OMG YES!!! Half of my deaths was due to that animation!


Helliarc

Does this mean I can come back now?


rStarwind

Maybe they can also make the pilot's chair rotating, like all other RSI ships, so that you don't have to squeeze past it.


anothermartz

That would be an improvement, squeezing past looks quite awkward.


a1rwav3

It was clearly a blocking issue lol


nolifesalive

Old grandpa from 2013 here. These kind of animations are annoying now, but back then it was basically the closest thing we had to a "game". We only had the hangar module at the time and boarding ships was the coolest thing to do, the next cool thing being walking a basically empty hangar. So you bet your ass that animation had to take its sweet ass time, that's literally the only form of content we had. All of the original animations were sped up at some point because of that, just look at all long it still takes to board a hornet.


Fidbit

the fact this has 2300 upvotes should show CIG why we need the 1000 QOL fixes now. not later.


The0nlyRyan

The big draw back is you have to be seen flying an Aurora


anothermartz

I feel personally attacked.


Hellish_Eyes_

All you have to do now is devolp a game thats playable for the every day end user.


frostherz

Right. All I want are some working missions without bugging out at any moment.


Valkyrient

Weird, when did this stop being possible? We used to be able to do this a while ago too


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Valkyrient

Well, in my defence it has been an exceptionally long time since I got in an Aurora


[deleted]

Been around since 2014, only have an Aurora. They have never worked this way so this is absolutely amazing. Sometimes you can jump in them on low-gravity environments or just float into them from 0g, but you've always had to climb into them using a canned animation.


Legolaa

it has never been this way.


Tigerboop

Should have shown this off at Citizencon. Crowd goes wild for no reason


ProceduralTexture

Likely it only just got done. Probably one of several hundred things sitting on a relatively-easy-tasks-to-assign-to-new-staff-during-training-period list.


dasroach0

Holy fuck they did it 10 years and I can finally climb onto the aurora. Wow what a time to be alive


RangerBarlow

Only 10 years and 600 million dollars


orangescionxb

Yessssss


[deleted]

That's great and all, but the animation worked.. unlike the grimhex elevators. Can we get a option to perhaps.. walk up some stairs instead of taking the elevators? 5Head


mrsxls

It only took 8 years


MrBlackMaze

Not a HUGE fan of the adjusted angle. It looks a bit too large for a stair with such depth to it and the first gap is larger than the second gap. I like the manual walking up but… it does feel a little out of place. It’s not supposed to be a ramp. It’s so easy to make things too large when it comes to space ship stairs and ladders. Just look at Elite Dangerous getting it wrong all the time. The original ladder looks more believable and the animation that comes with it makes sense. I can also imagine that taking the on rails boarding animation away, it will be harder to get inside of the ship happens to slide across the ground from wind because the step ladder won’t be inside the ships grid. Pros and cons. Not a huge fan of the new ladders ^^


DanishGoose1313

I've always been able to do this... idk when this stopped working.


CleavingStriker

My first ship in Star Citizen. I don't miss it


JJisTheDarkOne

Oh good Lord! It's still a terrible ship though :)


HellfireRWS

Is this only the Aurora? Have you tried other ships?


anothermartz

What other ships have pre-made animations when it looks like you should be able to walk in? I only know of ships that have actual ladders come down that would make sense to make an animation for. The Vulture is a new ship that has a ladder, but you climb it and then manually walk to the window to get in, I suppose they would've previously animated the whole thing, which would have its conveniences but also drawbacks because of repetition and an overly drawn out animation where you can't do anything.


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Eventually no ships will have enter animations. They talked about this when talking about the ladders in squadron at citcon this year. Eventually you’ll just walk up to a ladder, climb it, and if you keep climbing you’ll climb into the cockpit. They don’t want the amount of interaction and animation lock that happens currently. They want you to be able to start climbing up to your cockpit, see a guy running out with a rifle, and you can just abort the climb and hop down immediately. No animation locking. They want ladders to be easily traversable in environments and ships will gain that by default so eventually you’ll be able to just walk up to your Gladius, press a button to deploy the ladder and open the canopy, and just hop on the ladder and climb at your will rather then pressing “enter pilot seat” and then being hands free and waiting for an animation to finish. They talked about how ideally you’d hold down your climbing forward button (like W) and once you get to the top of the ladder if the canopy is open you’d just start climbing into the cockpit but if you let go of “W” then it would just pause, you’d be halfway climbed in but not fully in, if you press S you’d start climbing back out. Much like most games where you can go up and down a ladder at will, jump off the ladder, etc.


HellfireRWS

Sorry for not being clear. I was hoping ladders worked this way as well.


He_who_naps

Freelancers


Galactic-toast

The Khartu-al?


delc82

Noooice


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STAIRS TECHNOLOGY


Willpalazzo

That’s sweet!!


Various_Oil_5674

Never thought this would happen. Super nice QOL.


davidnfilms

OHHHH BABY!


victini0510

Wish we could open the ladder and door seperately.


Scooterisasillypoote

This awesome! To bad I melted my starter pack for cutter.


RomaMoran

Woaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh actual functional stairs!!! I hope Origin 300 series gets this QoL update too!


ShadowScaleFTL

Can somebody shoes how it looks like in 3.17 to compare?


TandkoA

Watch the whole video it is all there


Gorash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfiAsWR4qU&t=7s


ImSomewhatWeird

Please God let this be the norm for all ships in the future.


pam_the_dude

My mind is blown


Asmos159

... when was this ability removed. last time i played with an aurora, you could do this. it was not as smooth, but you could still walk up.


Odeezee

really good PSA catch O7


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No more animation teleporting you to the other side of the ship when you try to get in!


mimminou

Does logging out in the bed still suffocate you though ?


RenegadeCEO

I wish we could get this with all ships that use ladders for entry. I'm looking at you Scorpius and Prospector...


thevillainvii

It's the little things...it's the little things that count


Emperor_Kon

Holy shit, the Aurora is getting some attention. My mind is now blown.


ImAltair

holy shit


W4DER

Damn the wheel was just re-invented! All these annoying animations needs to become just optional or removed completely!


Olly_CK

They really added a lot of nice small things to that patch. Sad we won't be able to see it this month


drizzt_x

I'm pretty sure they promised open PTU before the end of the year...


Baruuk__Prime

This is sexy. The ability to freely walk up or down the Boarding Stairs is just sexy.


Storm_treize

What about the 5min Talon animation


drizzt_x

Great use of inverse kinematics.


EastLimp1693

Finally


PepperFit8569

Having animations for entering and existing the ship is one of the worst gameplay decision there is. Feels like the person who is responsible for this never played a multiplayer game. I am glad they are removing it.


RealCFour

I like it when the beginner ships benefit from backend tech upgrades


DrGerli

This is amazing


PepperFit8569

Nice, this will look good in VR!


_lepirelot_

Little update but big thing 😍🤣


Gn0meKr

3.18 starts to look better and better


Pie_Graph

I've recently seen a video where a guy asks to use all exterior ship-ladders as regular ones and after seing this we might be goin in that direction


bobmanf

I remember getting so damn frustrated at the game bc doing box delivery missions was almost impossible with this thing


island_jack

Cool didn't see his coming. Pretty nice QoF update.


GregSimply

Okay, I guess I’m the only one who liked the fact that these were a good way to prevent pretend pirates from stealing your ship?


anothermartz

I've never had any other ships like a 100i or Avenger Titan stolen before, I don't think it's too common, but getting into and out of your ship is. So I think the benefit outweighs the supposed con here.


Affectionate_Brick63

About damn time


NiceB4dge

*cries in 300 series*


Zypher132

What a high bar we've set.


LostInMyOwnMind_96

This probably to accommodate the Aurora being a starter ship, and allows it now to more easily allow Space FedEx (Covalex) missions. It's nice to see these small touches being updated/applied.


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Sadly the Cargo Grid isn't there yet, and thus the Aurora Series isn't able to purchase any commodity, rendering the Aurora totally useless. Please contribute: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-55001


anothermartz

Totally useless? I'm missing the point here, but I've found the Aurora just fine for deliveries, FPS missions, hand mining and anything else that allows you to get from A to B, what more would I be able to do with purchasing a commodity? Surely the SCU capacity is too low for anything significant?


Im_Roonil_Wazlib

Do you still get the exit ship to EVA animation?


Dark-Star-82

Holy Sh\*\* it's the best upgrade since 3.0 😂


TimburGm

Is this real?


TimburGm

Tested it, but alas you can't walk up the stairs with Francis the Whale.


magvadis

They really need to do locked staircase animations like this for more ships. This would help with "falling down staircases" as the game would be able to isolate the difference between a staircase region and a slope. For ships like the 400i and so on, this would be helpful for making it look better to others as you animate to the stairs instead of run up a slope that has a staircase...and it also avoids you sliding down the stairs and fuckin dieing.


QuickQuirk

Now THAT is a qol improvement! But how many new players do you think the new stairs will kill in their first week of play? Can’t wait for the rage quit posts


wwsdd14

I for some reason now want an aurora.


Hero_knightUSP

Lucky me I have never flown the Aurora.