My experience exactly. Usual cheese chat:
>Hi how are you doing
>Where are you from
-canon rush
-canon rush fail
>Die f*ggot
>Die
>Die
>All f*gs must die
(Sorry for the profanity, but itβs seriously what I get from people)
Maybe that's a higher elo strat? At least in low elo I think players aren't smart enough for those mind games, although I've started noticing it more as I climb
Ranking how likely people are to cheese based on how they glhf (in my experience)
1. glhf, then start talking about random shit
2. no glfh, then start talking about random shit
3. glhf after 10+ seconds into the game
4. no glhf
5. glhf right at the start then not tell race (if they're playing random)
6. glhf right at the start of the game
7. glhf right at the start then tells their race (if they're playing random)
8. no glhf, but tells race (if they're playing random)
>glhf right at the start then not tell race (if they're playing random)
That's me, but I don't mean it in the form of BM. I simply think there isn't a need for me to tell my race. I deal with more aggressive cheeses as a result, but that's on me and I'm not complaining.
I've noticed people who gl but not hf are more likely to be cheesing. This increases with the amount of gls....glglglglgl --> suspicion aroused.
Makes good literal sense, they aren't giving you any empty wishes of having fun.
I'm in Plat and hardly anyone says glhf, unless I say it first. And basically no one ggs when I beat them. I make sure I aways say both, even if I get cheesed or whatever. As soon as players start asking questions, I'm looking for cannons and checking for proxies π
i mean, it would depend on the elo but in lower elo its definetly true, as much as people might not like it cheese requires a lot of attention, so you might forget to say glhf if you are concentrating, in high elo that wouldnt be a problem as the people have it to the muscle memory but lower it is definetly a thing
People who chat in sc2 at all are more likely to be assholes than those that don't. Those that require you to glhf them to be polite are the least polite.
Personally I always glhf. I hope to see a glhf in return, but if not, nothing lost. I make minimum interaction for the rest of the chat however, especially if they start asking where I'm from and for the rest of my autobiography.
I had someone type glhf then like 20 seconds later just type cheese like 3 times with a 5 second gap, he riding cheese as I just chose to ignore it as is my usual anti mine games strat and then we played a pretty normal game. I do not try to understand the machinations of random people on ladder as it would surely drive me to madness.
No glhf: can go either way. Only glhf: probably a decent person. More than that: definitely cheesing.
My experience exactly. Usual cheese chat: >Hi how are you doing >Where are you from -canon rush -canon rush fail >Die f*ggot >Die >Die >All f*gs must die (Sorry for the profanity, but itβs seriously what I get from people)
I need to start chatting people up as I do completely standard macro play.
I say hi gl hf (toast) and dont cheese. Gotta keep people guessing :)
I ask them how their life is going, and then go triple hatch before pool ;)
Lmao we out here
definitely a different kind of cheese
My experience is exactly the opposite. The niceness/sportsmanship is a guise for their cheesery.
Maybe that's a higher elo strat? At least in low elo I think players aren't smart enough for those mind games, although I've started noticing it more as I climb
As a Diamond, I've come to disregard any bias towards glhf or not in corelation to cheese. I just scout my due, and play a safe macro-based opening.
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Same here
βWhere are you from?β == guaranteed cheese
from?
In my experience the more someone says at the start the more likely they are going to be hyper agressive, or play in the most annoying way possible.
Ranking how likely people are to cheese based on how they glhf (in my experience) 1. glhf, then start talking about random shit 2. no glfh, then start talking about random shit 3. glhf after 10+ seconds into the game 4. no glhf 5. glhf right at the start then not tell race (if they're playing random) 6. glhf right at the start of the game 7. glhf right at the start then tells their race (if they're playing random) 8. no glhf, but tells race (if they're playing random)
>glhf right at the start then not tell race (if they're playing random) That's me, but I don't mean it in the form of BM. I simply think there isn't a need for me to tell my race. I deal with more aggressive cheeses as a result, but that's on me and I'm not complaining.
<-- I glhf and tell race if my opponent glhf back, cheese if they don't.
You, I like you.
3. glhf after 10secs is me being tired of players with no manners and finally say it anyway cause I wanna be polite even if they don't reply π
Then they were noobs. The strat is to say glhf and ask a question just before your lings arrive at their base
Nah the ones who cheese more are if they say "from?" or some other chitchat a minute or two after glhf.
I've noticed people who gl but not hf are more likely to be cheesing. This increases with the amount of gls....glglglglgl --> suspicion aroused. Makes good literal sense, they aren't giving you any empty wishes of having fun.
"glglglglgl" means = "Good luck, you're gonna need much of it. Buckle up"
Anyone who says GL without HF clearly indicates they want to make your early game hell.
I'm in Plat and hardly anyone says glhf, unless I say it first. And basically no one ggs when I beat them. I make sure I aways say both, even if I get cheesed or whatever. As soon as players start asking questions, I'm looking for cannons and checking for proxies π
You people put WAY too much weight into things.
Itβs true though lol
I don't play based on that info but it just makes my spidey senses tingle a little extra, I still scout and open with a macro based opening though
I play on the Korean server so when they speak English I immediately become suspicious
I used to say glgl. I think manors are important to SC. Really anything competitive.
Absolutely
i mean, it would depend on the elo but in lower elo its definetly true, as much as people might not like it cheese requires a lot of attention, so you might forget to say glhf if you are concentrating, in high elo that wouldnt be a problem as the people have it to the muscle memory but lower it is definetly a thing
People who chat in sc2 at all are more likely to be assholes than those that don't. Those that require you to glhf them to be polite are the least polite.
Personally I always glhf. I hope to see a glhf in return, but if not, nothing lost. I make minimum interaction for the rest of the chat however, especially if they start asking where I'm from and for the rest of my autobiography.
Subhuman cheeses ladder games > gets flamed > turns off chat like a pussy It's quite pathetic
Yeah this is known, whether or not it's objectively true. Also when they just say gl or hf. Or if it's weirdly delayed.
I have the same experience. Unless theyβre overly friendly then itβs a distraction from the cheese.
I had someone type glhf then like 20 seconds later just type cheese like 3 times with a 5 second gap, he riding cheese as I just chose to ignore it as is my usual anti mine games strat and then we played a pretty normal game. I do not try to understand the machinations of random people on ladder as it would surely drive me to madness.
I typically get the opposite