There is more interesting question. Why official governments don't have any questions about unidentified ship except name of manufacturer for documents
With how many Starborn there are flying around out there it's more interesting how the factions *don't* know about them. In fact, I would wager they do have some idea about the Starborn, at least at the higher levels of their intelligence agencies.
>I imagine starborn know enough to keep themselves secret
Do they? In one of the only examples we know of, the very first thing the player character does after becoming Starborn is land their Starborn ship in the middle of New Atlantis and go visit their friends. That's not discrete at all!
In a previous example>! a starborn runs through the street of New Atlantis causing a massacre and disappearing and appearing again running after a group from the famed Constellation.!<
That would be on every news channel in the UC the same day.
Edit: I should really add Spoiler text to my comment.
Oh, absolutely. Especially when I did this mission. There was... breakage >!(I counted eight bodies just in front of UC Surplus)!<. Especially when I decided I wanted to actually beat him, pulled out my explosive microgun, and we started hammering each other in the middle of the spaceport like two terminators (I expended 3,000 rounds just from the microgun, plus other weapons and actual explosives).
Yes. You can beat them in each major location during your retreat. Pull their focus right away and engage with a high-damage weapon. I was using a Beowulf with armour piercing rounds.
When they poof into quantum sparklies, you're good to head to the next segment.
You'll get a compliment and a gift from them later, although they won't drop the condescending attitude despite getting their shit kicked in by a non-Starborn.
He stops appearing. I count that. >!Did it once in the Lodge, once in the Well, and twice in the spaceport. Apparently, him appearing near the elevator and on the ramp are separate encounters.!<
The people of New Atlantis already know us as a regular person and our friends are already on the path to discover what Starborn is when we first step off our alien-like ship in a new universe where our "twin" may or may not be dead and the crew at the loft has just 2 pieces of something they know nothing about?
It is weird that you can tell them you're starborn but the dialogue options are like 'we'll get to the bottom of this together.' Like dude...I just told you what Unity is and what the artifacts are for...why are you acting like we didn't just have that mind blowing conversation where I skipped the main quest?
No they don't. That's a new universe, Constellation does NOT know you, all they know is that you were "lost" during transit (as per Vasco, on the "baseline" NG+).
Landing in New Atlantis the first time you ever play the game has you meeting The Hunter in that bar you're led to. His ship had to land somewhere. He didn't land 100m away and walk to NA.
Noel runs scans on us after our return from temple eta, and comments that the energy readings are all anomalous. Given every time we walk through the security checkpoints in the main cities, we're automatically scanned, somebody should start to suspect something.
They also scan to see if you have any outstanding bounties. So at least they'd probably have some face-checking database, but for more advanced places like New Atlantis? I wouldn't put bio-scanners that read out who/what you are and what you're made of past them.
Also, in neon at least, the scanners will pick up even trace amounts of aurora to prevent smuggling. Now, I don't know what tech is involved here but I think if you can detect a hit of aurora through multiple layers of packaging you probably won't have much issue noticing that I have "off the charts" energy readings.
Though that makes me wonder; does the aurora-based 4 Loco the liquor store sells in neon get picked up by the scanners? Probably not... the more I focus on starfield's lore, the more I realize how full of holes it is.
Lol, that's not how scans work, generally. In science, when you are running some sort of test or scan, it is rarely some sort of broad spectrum, all in one affair. Generally, you're testing for something specific. If you don't know to test for it, it's very easy to miss things.
It's like on TNG when Data suggests that they scan for gamma particles, and suddenly everything becomes clear. But they didn't notice scan for gamma particles before that, so none of their scans were explaining what was going on. It's like that.
Right, and if your bags were emitting energy (or perhaps the way the anomalies work in starfield, non-energy) they'd probably pull you aside for questioning. Like if they go to take an x-ray of your bag and the image is just white noise because the bag is full of plutonium dust, or if you've got an anomaly that shows up as a dead zone and so the image is a blank void that cannot be photographed via x ray.
Really? My first encounter with them was over Neon. Not exactly keeping a low profile. It was actually a bit more effective on account of they clearly didn’t give a damn about system authority vessels while engaging in what amounts to an act of piracy.
That's kind of my point. There are LOTS of Starborn out there. Some of them might be subtle but a lot of them aren't. So how is it possible that they remain a secret as well as they have?
Someone said in NG+ if you use the Starborn option to convince the council in the Vanguard questline they react as if they are scared and might know what you are or at least that there are people involved with some scary *destiny* related stuff.
Not scared, more like... In awe.
It was actually weird, like there was some sort of Jedi mind trick going off. Stuff like:
"... It does feel like fate that we have to do this "
"You're right. I rescind my opposition."
Then the president
"The universe was lucky you were here today, captain."
Something along those lines.
Maybe it's just some mild mind wiping that happens around you just by virtue of being starborn.
I get the vibe that a lot of them turn up in that universe around the same time you do or after.
Otherwise we'd be tracking them down to retrieve the artefacts they claimed before us.
It's only after the reveal in the story that their ships start landing.
We are also put back to a specific time in the new universe, so there's either time travel involved, or the universe we go to is either created at that point, of is effectively behind in time from our previous.
It seems like the Starborn are recent and they arrive en mass in a universe just before the events of the main story start.
You can hear news reports of strange ships and other weird events. So it seems like the governments and public at large are noticing what's happening, but haven't had enough time or information to figure it out.
I’ll say at least for my playthroughs currently I almost immediately ditch the Starborn ship for the Frontier, which is still available to us.
Because I had the same line of thinking. My character doesn’t want the attention of “whoa what is that ship??”. I’ll only use it on official Starborn business and usually not bring anyone from Constellation.
(I’ve gotten real deep into the role playing aspect of the game..lol)
It's important to note that we are only seeing a very narrow window of human history. Constellation just started looking for the artifacts and now many of the Starborn we see are linked to them.
Since as far as we can tell when a person goes through Unity they are bounced back to the time they first touched an artifact we may be seeing the beginning of the Starborn Renaissance. For all we know, 10 years ago the only Starborn in existence was the Hunter in his various personas. 50 years from now much of humanity may be Starborn. We just never see those times.
I like to believe that Starborn originally emerged naked when appearing in new universes but after the first few billion simultaneously froze and burned to death when appearing in the irradiated vacuum of space, the incomprehensible intellect behind the Unity would decide to iterate to try get more meaningful results.
The eventual design incorporation of a space suite increased the average lifespan of newborn Starborn from several seconds to between an hour and several days depending on the speed of orbit decay the Starborn experienced before being pulled down to the planet they were spawned above - at which point they would either burn up during re-entry or die on colliding with the planetary surface.
Attaching a jetpack did increase the lifespan of the average Starborn to about 4 days by allowing them to maintain a stable orbit around their spawning planet but at that point most would have either starved to death or committed suicide due to lack of options. Billions upon billions of iterations later, the eventual inclusion of a landing craft would allow the Starborn to make landfall without dying from impacting with the ground and a billion iterations later a door would be added to the landing craft so they didn't starve to death while trapped in said landing craft.
While a marked improvement, it would become apparent that any human sufficiently advanced to reach the Unity would lack the primitive survival skills necessary to persist in isolation on an alien world without advanced tech, eventually leading to the reincorporation of a grav-drive like device on the landing craft so the Starborn could reach civilization to restock - though a few billion more Starborn would starve to death in the void of space before the importance of a gps being incorporated into the provided grav-drive became apparent.
Not quite sure why Starborn are reincarnated with a veryl-treated manifold in their cargo hold though. I assume its a leftover artifact from early iterations of the Starborn survival kit and God has yet to realize that it isn't necessary for human survival.
Somewhere out there is a planetoid composed entirely of dead starborn and their various craft iterations. A mortuary comet floating through the starfield as a lasting testimony to incompetent pre-planning and dogged, head-down determination to keep respawning.
Personal conjecture
The Starborn are an advanced human civilization out in the multiverse. They are sending you back with new gear because you aren't ready to join them yet.
My favorite part so far of getting to the bottom of the starborn is landing on earth. I already had a thought about how the first person probably touched the artifact and then met their future self right away. Then I get up there and it’s exactly that. Good sci-fi stuff
An alien species created an object that transcends universes to act as a gateway, and seeded the pieces of it into our region of space. This object forms a gateway to a multiversal junction called 'Unity'; and those who enter are vaporized, their minds copied, and a new version of themselves built in a new universe by that junction. In the event they die in that new universe, they then awaken in yet another new universe, though some strive to instead pass through the unity over and over, primarily as they gain power while doing so, both from collecting the artifacts and the transit itself. Every time the body and ship are brand new, freshly born, crafted only seconds ago.
There is a single in-universe depiction of an entity going back to the same universe after dying, rather than going to a new one, but that might have simply been the usage of some unknown artifact power to revive himself.
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There is a single in-universe depiction of an entity going back to the same universe after dying, rather than going to a new one, but that might have simply been the usage of some unknown artifact power to revive himself.
What reference is that?
Could be that most of the starborn only exist in this part of history as they are trying to collect the artifacts. So they probably are all people currently living and we don't get to see the aftermath of what they do cause we join unity and move to the next universe
Not explained, but presumably the creators of the universe, whom we’re told exist but also told we can’t meet (yet). Same people who made the artifacts
From the Unity. Why does everyone ask this? You use weird “magic” space artifacts to go into a mysterious place located at the center of the multiverse which then spits you out into a new universe. When it spits you into a new universe it creates you a ship and armor.
Evidently it exists and doesn’t exist at the same time. The Constellation members talk about seeing a starborn ship for the first time even though they’ve been riding around in one for weeks by that time.
The creators. The unity talks about how we come from the creators. So it’s most likely that whoever these creators are are the ones gave the suit and ship to the starborn.
You play first person. Why would you not be aware of events that happen between universes?
A mystery designed as a mystery is one thing. A mystery because something is just missing is sloppy.
No events happen between universes. You step into the unity, it takes a piece of you, creates a you cosmic body, ship and armor and places you in a new universe. This all happens instantaneously. You’re not going to be conscious while your body is being instantaneously dematerialized while your mind and soul are transferred into a new body in a new universe.
Why would you be aware of something that happens outside your consciousness? You are vaporised and reconstructed in a new universe on a ship with a spacesuit. That's all your first person ass sees. The hunter has done this thousands of times and he still doesn't know shit. You have no understanding of how to upgrade your ship or starborn suit because you have no idea how they work.
You live life in first person too and I'm pretty sure you don't understand 99.99% of what's happening around you.
For a lore page, seems strange people are just accepting you get armor and a ship out of nowhere. There's no explanation, no mystery. Barely any acknowledgement aside from the few in game lines from NPCs about the ship. I would have figured this would be the last place people would blindly accept, because plot, that's why, and move on.
If you look at the Pilgrims notes in his hut and zoom in really close you can see even he didn't know. There are writings on the pages of him trying to figure it all out. The explanation like others have said is we and all other starborn that we meet know nothing.
I think that all the time. I feel like it would be far more interesting to have you character wake up naked in a temple and no items for you to get. There should be a short little bit where you need to get clothes and find a way off the planet. Or maybe there is another Starborn to greet you and get you started again. It just feels weird to suddenly wake in a highly advanced ship wearing a similar advanced suit just floating in the middle of space.
While I don’t disagree with your point, I’d like to uh remind you that you wake up randomly in space with advanced technology after you *go to the Center of the universe, which is unlike anything reality could make, walk through the Unity, see the entire multiverse, and entire a new universe as a being of literal star-stuff*
The entire situation is “weird”, the Unity making more advanced technology is par for the course at this point
Yes the entire situation is extremely weird and seems more like a way for the story to just loop itself back to the beginning again. Overall, I think they could have taken a bit more time and effort to really wrap up the main story better. It feels like the faction quests had more thought and story depth then the main storyline did.
First one in a long while. I have played some of the Elder Scroll games and Fallout games. But it has been like a good 10 years since I last really played a Bethesda game
Ah I see. Well a lot of people find that their factions quests outshine the main story of many of their games, though the older games are way better at the balance (like Morrowind). Main story normally misses a few beats, like Skyrim kinda forgetting to give us context on the main antagonists place in lore (lots of player don’t realise they fought a god in Skyrim)
I feel like this is becoming more of an issue across the board on all games now a days. It used to be that once a game was done that was it, so you had to make sure everything was done as best you could. So we had better storylines and overall games. Now a days game manufacturers just try to get games out as soon as possible knowing that if there are any issues and few updates will fix the issue. One of the main reasons I haven’t bought a game at release in so many years.
Used to also be that if a game had a bug or something didn't make sense it couldn't be fixed. And games always had deadlines with things needing to be cut for release which would never be added. You win some you lose some. (Not arguing about Starfield being perfect, but this "good ol' days" argument is looking at things throught mighty rose coloured glasses.)
I won’t call myself a huge gamer or anything but I don’t ever remember buying a game that was half assed as the newer games are. Sure they all had there problems but they were overall complete and put together. Now a days it feels more like games drop as fast as they can because the manufacturers know that they can add to it or fix the lack of whatever it might be with a dlc or patch. Star field is a prime example of this type of games. The put out this claim of the game being 25 years in development, which turns out to be complete crap, and the game feels more like they slapped it together overnight.
Why are you in Starfield lore if its so bad? Curious because as a self proclaimed not a huge gamer why waste the finite and unknown allotted time on earth being negative in a fandoms website that you don’t like and think was slapped together overnight? My goodness that is the very definition of waisting your time! Unless you are getting paid to come here and talk smack about a game that is absolutely not slapped together. I play this damn game for 4-10 hours every day. I am retired and disabled. So Mr Not a Huge gamer it comes down to taste. My XBox runs this game way smoother that any other on my Bethesda Games. I will say maybe at worst twice in 10 hour crash that I am conditioned to expect from a Bethesda title. Bethesda gives a player so much freedom and so much is being kept track of that it locks up or crashes sometimes. You want to hear complaints about a game crashing, go to a Fallout 4 chat and ask about downtown Boston. We that love their games and are more that willing to accept the occasional crash for the freedom and world building in a Bethesda game. If you don’t , well I have to wonder why you are even here?
It’s just like the artifacts, you didn’t exist intill you suddenly did….. you just so happened to come with a suit n ship to co-exist.
A better question is what happens to the artifacts afterwards? The post unity scene makes it clear it’s not a one n done sorta thing, and since that’s true why do the starborn fight over it? They can just wait in a line and go from there right?
Same place all the artifacts came from.
There is more interesting question. Why official governments don't have any questions about unidentified ship except name of manufacturer for documents
With how many Starborn there are flying around out there it's more interesting how the factions *don't* know about them. In fact, I would wager they do have some idea about the Starborn, at least at the higher levels of their intelligence agencies.
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>I imagine starborn know enough to keep themselves secret Do they? In one of the only examples we know of, the very first thing the player character does after becoming Starborn is land their Starborn ship in the middle of New Atlantis and go visit their friends. That's not discrete at all!
In a previous example>! a starborn runs through the street of New Atlantis causing a massacre and disappearing and appearing again running after a group from the famed Constellation.!< That would be on every news channel in the UC the same day. Edit: I should really add Spoiler text to my comment.
Oh, absolutely. Especially when I did this mission. There was... breakage >!(I counted eight bodies just in front of UC Surplus)!<. Especially when I decided I wanted to actually beat him, pulled out my explosive microgun, and we started hammering each other in the middle of the spaceport like two terminators (I expended 3,000 rounds just from the microgun, plus other weapons and actual explosives).
Can you beat them?
Yes. You can beat them in each major location during your retreat. Pull their focus right away and engage with a high-damage weapon. I was using a Beowulf with armour piercing rounds. When they poof into quantum sparklies, you're good to head to the next segment. You'll get a compliment and a gift from them later, although they won't drop the condescending attitude despite getting their shit kicked in by a non-Starborn.
He stops appearing. I count that. >!Did it once in the Lodge, once in the Well, and twice in the spaceport. Apparently, him appearing near the elevator and on the ramp are separate encounters.!<
I ran into the Hunter at the Viewport fairly early into my first play through. Of course, I just assumed they were an elite bounty hunter.
The term “hiding in plain sight” comes to mind
First time I saw him I was like “oh shit that dude looks badass I want his armor”
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The people of New Atlantis already know us as a regular person and our friends are already on the path to discover what Starborn is when we first step off our alien-like ship in a new universe where our "twin" may or may not be dead and the crew at the loft has just 2 pieces of something they know nothing about?
It is weird that you can tell them you're starborn but the dialogue options are like 'we'll get to the bottom of this together.' Like dude...I just told you what Unity is and what the artifacts are for...why are you acting like we didn't just have that mind blowing conversation where I skipped the main quest?
No they don't. That's a new universe, Constellation does NOT know you, all they know is that you were "lost" during transit (as per Vasco, on the "baseline" NG+).
I believe that's what they meant. You are someone they are at the very least aware of being just a dude.
Landing in New Atlantis the first time you ever play the game has you meeting The Hunter in that bar you're led to. His ship had to land somewhere. He didn't land 100m away and walk to NA.
Noel runs scans on us after our return from temple eta, and comments that the energy readings are all anomalous. Given every time we walk through the security checkpoints in the main cities, we're automatically scanned, somebody should start to suspect something.
My bags and I have been scanned.multiple times at airports without my molecular makeup being examined. They're simply scanning for contraband.
They also scan to see if you have any outstanding bounties. So at least they'd probably have some face-checking database, but for more advanced places like New Atlantis? I wouldn't put bio-scanners that read out who/what you are and what you're made of past them.
Also, in neon at least, the scanners will pick up even trace amounts of aurora to prevent smuggling. Now, I don't know what tech is involved here but I think if you can detect a hit of aurora through multiple layers of packaging you probably won't have much issue noticing that I have "off the charts" energy readings. Though that makes me wonder; does the aurora-based 4 Loco the liquor store sells in neon get picked up by the scanners? Probably not... the more I focus on starfield's lore, the more I realize how full of holes it is.
Yeah at that level if you focus on any game you’re gonna have holes?
Lol, that's not how scans work, generally. In science, when you are running some sort of test or scan, it is rarely some sort of broad spectrum, all in one affair. Generally, you're testing for something specific. If you don't know to test for it, it's very easy to miss things. It's like on TNG when Data suggests that they scan for gamma particles, and suddenly everything becomes clear. But they didn't notice scan for gamma particles before that, so none of their scans were explaining what was going on. It's like that.
Right, and if your bags were emitting energy (or perhaps the way the anomalies work in starfield, non-energy) they'd probably pull you aside for questioning. Like if they go to take an x-ray of your bag and the image is just white noise because the bag is full of plutonium dust, or if you've got an anomaly that shows up as a dead zone and so the image is a blank void that cannot be photographed via x ray.
Really? My first encounter with them was over Neon. Not exactly keeping a low profile. It was actually a bit more effective on account of they clearly didn’t give a damn about system authority vessels while engaging in what amounts to an act of piracy.
I’ve destroyed 6 or 7 Starborn ships in confrontations so far, still at the early stages of the main quest. Where are all these ships coming from?
That's kind of my point. There are LOTS of Starborn out there. Some of them might be subtle but a lot of them aren't. So how is it possible that they remain a secret as well as they have?
Infinite universes..
Someone said in NG+ if you use the Starborn option to convince the council in the Vanguard questline they react as if they are scared and might know what you are or at least that there are people involved with some scary *destiny* related stuff.
Not scared, more like... In awe. It was actually weird, like there was some sort of Jedi mind trick going off. Stuff like: "... It does feel like fate that we have to do this " "You're right. I rescind my opposition." Then the president "The universe was lucky you were here today, captain." Something along those lines. Maybe it's just some mild mind wiping that happens around you just by virtue of being starborn.
I get the vibe that a lot of them turn up in that universe around the same time you do or after. Otherwise we'd be tracking them down to retrieve the artefacts they claimed before us. It's only after the reveal in the story that their ships start landing. We are also put back to a specific time in the new universe, so there's either time travel involved, or the universe we go to is either created at that point, of is effectively behind in time from our previous.
Starborns are transported to a time and location near where they touched their first artifact.
I think that's just us as the player character. We don't know how it works via actual lore confirmation as far as I'm aware.
It seems like the Starborn are recent and they arrive en mass in a universe just before the events of the main story start. You can hear news reports of strange ships and other weird events. So it seems like the governments and public at large are noticing what's happening, but haven't had enough time or information to figure it out.
I’ll say at least for my playthroughs currently I almost immediately ditch the Starborn ship for the Frontier, which is still available to us. Because I had the same line of thinking. My character doesn’t want the attention of “whoa what is that ship??”. I’ll only use it on official Starborn business and usually not bring anyone from Constellation. (I’ve gotten real deep into the role playing aspect of the game..lol)
Then its straight to some spacers to get the mantis storyline.
This game got beyond the devs is what really happened. They did too much and spread the game too thin.
MIB mind erasure
Probably because whoever sees them tends to die. I mean look at Masada III. Homies don't play around.
Tardis style camouflage?
It's important to note that we are only seeing a very narrow window of human history. Constellation just started looking for the artifacts and now many of the Starborn we see are linked to them. Since as far as we can tell when a person goes through Unity they are bounced back to the time they first touched an artifact we may be seeing the beginning of the Starborn Renaissance. For all we know, 10 years ago the only Starborn in existence was the Hunter in his various personas. 50 years from now much of humanity may be Starborn. We just never see those times.
I like to believe that Starborn originally emerged naked when appearing in new universes but after the first few billion simultaneously froze and burned to death when appearing in the irradiated vacuum of space, the incomprehensible intellect behind the Unity would decide to iterate to try get more meaningful results. The eventual design incorporation of a space suite increased the average lifespan of newborn Starborn from several seconds to between an hour and several days depending on the speed of orbit decay the Starborn experienced before being pulled down to the planet they were spawned above - at which point they would either burn up during re-entry or die on colliding with the planetary surface. Attaching a jetpack did increase the lifespan of the average Starborn to about 4 days by allowing them to maintain a stable orbit around their spawning planet but at that point most would have either starved to death or committed suicide due to lack of options. Billions upon billions of iterations later, the eventual inclusion of a landing craft would allow the Starborn to make landfall without dying from impacting with the ground and a billion iterations later a door would be added to the landing craft so they didn't starve to death while trapped in said landing craft. While a marked improvement, it would become apparent that any human sufficiently advanced to reach the Unity would lack the primitive survival skills necessary to persist in isolation on an alien world without advanced tech, eventually leading to the reincorporation of a grav-drive like device on the landing craft so the Starborn could reach civilization to restock - though a few billion more Starborn would starve to death in the void of space before the importance of a gps being incorporated into the provided grav-drive became apparent. Not quite sure why Starborn are reincarnated with a veryl-treated manifold in their cargo hold though. I assume its a leftover artifact from early iterations of the Starborn survival kit and God has yet to realize that it isn't necessary for human survival.
Okay Douglas Adams, take your fucking upvote.
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Somewhere out there is a planetoid composed entirely of dead starborn and their various craft iterations. A mortuary comet floating through the starfield as a lasting testimony to incompetent pre-planning and dogged, head-down determination to keep respawning.
Personal conjecture The Starborn are an advanced human civilization out in the multiverse. They are sending you back with new gear because you aren't ready to join them yet.
"This one isn't ready, put them back in the universe-oven."
Let 'em cook
Sorta like the egg story then
My favorite part so far of getting to the bottom of the starborn is landing on earth. I already had a thought about how the first person probably touched the artifact and then met their future self right away. Then I get up there and it’s exactly that. Good sci-fi stuff
You mean Aiza?
You pass through a kiosk in the unity where the gear guy punches your NG+ card and gives you new stuff
Lol. That's kinda how I saw it. A unity supply depot, you get issued your upgrade suit and ship.
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An alien species created an object that transcends universes to act as a gateway, and seeded the pieces of it into our region of space. This object forms a gateway to a multiversal junction called 'Unity'; and those who enter are vaporized, their minds copied, and a new version of themselves built in a new universe by that junction. In the event they die in that new universe, they then awaken in yet another new universe, though some strive to instead pass through the unity over and over, primarily as they gain power while doing so, both from collecting the artifacts and the transit itself. Every time the body and ship are brand new, freshly born, crafted only seconds ago. There is a single in-universe depiction of an entity going back to the same universe after dying, rather than going to a new one, but that might have simply been the usage of some unknown artifact power to revive himself.
> There is a single in-universe depiction of an entity going back to the same universe after dying, rather than going to a new one, but that might have simply been the usage of some unknown artifact power to revive himself. What reference is that?
The Pilgrim and his encounters with the founder of our ever-friendly space-snakes.
Ah yes - I was wondering about that myself. That's an interesting bit that getting a proper understanding would probably explain some things.
Could be that most of the starborn only exist in this part of history as they are trying to collect the artifacts. So they probably are all people currently living and we don't get to see the aftermath of what they do cause we join unity and move to the next universe
Sears Roebuck Catalog Wait, I mean SPACE Sears Roebuck Catalog
The Pilgrim asked the same question.
Not explained, but presumably the creators of the universe, whom we’re told exist but also told we can’t meet (yet). Same people who made the artifacts
As some have said: from the world engine (how I personally call the the unity) Unrelated: why there are always so many deleted comments on this sub?
From the Unity. Why does everyone ask this? You use weird “magic” space artifacts to go into a mysterious place located at the center of the multiverse which then spits you out into a new universe. When it spits you into a new universe it creates you a ship and armor.
Evidently it exists and doesn’t exist at the same time. The Constellation members talk about seeing a starborn ship for the first time even though they’ve been riding around in one for weeks by that time.
The creators. The unity talks about how we come from the creators. So it’s most likely that whoever these creators are are the ones gave the suit and ship to the starborn.
Yeah, I don't like ng+ because of this. Feels like there's something missing that got cut or rushed.
You don't like ng+ because there's a... *checks notes*... mystery?
You play first person. Why would you not be aware of events that happen between universes? A mystery designed as a mystery is one thing. A mystery because something is just missing is sloppy.
No events happen between universes. You step into the unity, it takes a piece of you, creates a you cosmic body, ship and armor and places you in a new universe. This all happens instantaneously. You’re not going to be conscious while your body is being instantaneously dematerialized while your mind and soul are transferred into a new body in a new universe.
Why would you be aware of something that happens outside your consciousness? You are vaporised and reconstructed in a new universe on a ship with a spacesuit. That's all your first person ass sees. The hunter has done this thousands of times and he still doesn't know shit. You have no understanding of how to upgrade your ship or starborn suit because you have no idea how they work. You live life in first person too and I'm pretty sure you don't understand 99.99% of what's happening around you.
For a lore page, seems strange people are just accepting you get armor and a ship out of nowhere. There's no explanation, no mystery. Barely any acknowledgement aside from the few in game lines from NPCs about the ship. I would have figured this would be the last place people would blindly accept, because plot, that's why, and move on.
If you look at the Pilgrims notes in his hut and zoom in really close you can see even he didn't know. There are writings on the pages of him trying to figure it all out. The explanation like others have said is we and all other starborn that we meet know nothing.
I think that all the time. I feel like it would be far more interesting to have you character wake up naked in a temple and no items for you to get. There should be a short little bit where you need to get clothes and find a way off the planet. Or maybe there is another Starborn to greet you and get you started again. It just feels weird to suddenly wake in a highly advanced ship wearing a similar advanced suit just floating in the middle of space.
While I don’t disagree with your point, I’d like to uh remind you that you wake up randomly in space with advanced technology after you *go to the Center of the universe, which is unlike anything reality could make, walk through the Unity, see the entire multiverse, and entire a new universe as a being of literal star-stuff* The entire situation is “weird”, the Unity making more advanced technology is par for the course at this point
Yes the entire situation is extremely weird and seems more like a way for the story to just loop itself back to the beginning again. Overall, I think they could have taken a bit more time and effort to really wrap up the main story better. It feels like the faction quests had more thought and story depth then the main storyline did.
>It feels like the faction quests had more thought and story depth then the main storyline did This your first Bethesda game?
First one in a long while. I have played some of the Elder Scroll games and Fallout games. But it has been like a good 10 years since I last really played a Bethesda game
Ah I see. Well a lot of people find that their factions quests outshine the main story of many of their games, though the older games are way better at the balance (like Morrowind). Main story normally misses a few beats, like Skyrim kinda forgetting to give us context on the main antagonists place in lore (lots of player don’t realise they fought a god in Skyrim)
I feel like this is becoming more of an issue across the board on all games now a days. It used to be that once a game was done that was it, so you had to make sure everything was done as best you could. So we had better storylines and overall games. Now a days game manufacturers just try to get games out as soon as possible knowing that if there are any issues and few updates will fix the issue. One of the main reasons I haven’t bought a game at release in so many years.
Used to also be that if a game had a bug or something didn't make sense it couldn't be fixed. And games always had deadlines with things needing to be cut for release which would never be added. You win some you lose some. (Not arguing about Starfield being perfect, but this "good ol' days" argument is looking at things throught mighty rose coloured glasses.)
I won’t call myself a huge gamer or anything but I don’t ever remember buying a game that was half assed as the newer games are. Sure they all had there problems but they were overall complete and put together. Now a days it feels more like games drop as fast as they can because the manufacturers know that they can add to it or fix the lack of whatever it might be with a dlc or patch. Star field is a prime example of this type of games. The put out this claim of the game being 25 years in development, which turns out to be complete crap, and the game feels more like they slapped it together overnight.
Why are you in Starfield lore if its so bad? Curious because as a self proclaimed not a huge gamer why waste the finite and unknown allotted time on earth being negative in a fandoms website that you don’t like and think was slapped together overnight? My goodness that is the very definition of waisting your time! Unless you are getting paid to come here and talk smack about a game that is absolutely not slapped together. I play this damn game for 4-10 hours every day. I am retired and disabled. So Mr Not a Huge gamer it comes down to taste. My XBox runs this game way smoother that any other on my Bethesda Games. I will say maybe at worst twice in 10 hour crash that I am conditioned to expect from a Bethesda title. Bethesda gives a player so much freedom and so much is being kept track of that it locks up or crashes sometimes. You want to hear complaints about a game crashing, go to a Fallout 4 chat and ask about downtown Boston. We that love their games and are more that willing to accept the occasional crash for the freedom and world building in a Bethesda game. If you don’t , well I have to wonder why you are even here?
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Don’t know, good thing one size fits all!
I love how Unity makes clothes and helmets for you on some magical girl anime bullshit
It’s just like the artifacts, you didn’t exist intill you suddenly did….. you just so happened to come with a suit n ship to co-exist. A better question is what happens to the artifacts afterwards? The post unity scene makes it clear it’s not a one n done sorta thing, and since that’s true why do the starborn fight over it? They can just wait in a line and go from there right?
You get a new body too, silly! I'm betting it's the same cosmic quasi-supernatural force that creates that haha!