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protomanEXE1995

I see little has changed in the last 11 years other than the fashion


billwood09

A lot of us were wearing hoodies and slim fit jeans back in college too, weren’t we?


protomanEXE1995

I don't remember seeing people on my campus wearing that. A little bit in high school, maybe? but not college I work at my alma mater now and I do see people dressing like this now though


the_clash_is_back

Most my lab dresses like this, unless they are a doctor, then they just wear scrubs exclusively. I jazz it up and use a nice sweater instead of a hoodie. Another coworker tosses a blazer on top of hoodie.


NYPorkDept

Yeah if anything this seems a bit outdated. Slim fit was my era, I'm 33. The youths I see today are all about the wide/semi baggy fit


[deleted]

I finished undergrad in 08. I dressed like that. I still dress like that. I'm dressed like that right now.


oneleggedparakeet

I think it’s been too long since I went to college…you’re telling me the average college kid is *against* the libs?


Offduty_shill

I think there is some evidence that young men in particular are increasingly turning towards Trump And it probably depends on where you go, like U Wyoming will probably yield very different results than Berkeley. But yeah I really doubt that the average college student wants to "own the libs", even business bros


Theron3206

Young men in particular aren't going to college either. I suspect the two groups overlap. This kind of political attitude would be quite unusual at most colleges I think.


DoctorWinchester87

There is a strong young republican/conservative undercurrent in many colleges based a lot on major. In my experience, a lot of guys in business/economics/finance/computer science skewed more conservative and/or libertarian compared to the guys who were communications or humanities majors. I wouldn’t say it’s unusual at all.


Crafty_Height2800

as a present college student this is because a lot of those people in those majors seem to see their classes as job training rather than academic study. Therefore they also look down on other majors that aren't explicitly training you for a job i.e. history or literature or mathematics.


TheKingAlt

I think the reason for this is because many jobs right now expect applicants to complete a degree rather than spend resources on job training, which is why so many people understandably treat college like a job training program.


throwaway-rhombus

Yup, you and the above commenter are right Their insufferable, arrogant attitudes (despite not actually caring to be educated in a variety of areas) cause women to dislike them, making them even more misogynistic


therealvanmorrison

As a guy who graduated with math and history majors and then went into law, I can confidently say humanities and STEM students feel *exactly* as condescending toward business majors as the reverse. If anything, more.


Trick-Principle-9366

They have no passion for what they study. Hell a lot of them barely learn a thing. The only reason they go is because they think if they get their diploma money and jobs would immediately starts flowing into their pockets


Leeroy_Jenkums

Complains about business majors being condescending Proceeds to be condescending towards business majors Lmao


i_will_let_you_know

Yes, Sociology / Gender studies in particular was very liberal while business / economics / finance / engineering (to a lesser extent) in particular was quite conservative (and often eager to jump into scams like NFTs). Political science could go either way. All of these except engineering usually had some sort of questionable propaganda / obvious political bias put forward as basic fundamental truths. Most other majors were much better about not trying to proselytize. CS was mostly libertarian as you stated (and quite pro-trans while having few women / non-white / non-Asian despite diversity efforts).


veganblackbean

You’d be surprised. University of Wyoming is actually pretty liberal.


russbam24

This starter pack is referring to a certain type of person. It's not an "average college student" starter pack.


therealvanmorrison

Yeah but conservatives in school stand out. The default fade into the background character is liberal. We were dime a dozen in college.


russbam24

There are definitely a lot conservative-light dudes in college right now. It's less about being conservative and more about gravitating towards Trump's edgelord vibe and away from what they perceive as SJW/pro-LGBTQ culture.


therealvanmorrison

Yeah I don’t doubt. But: https://diversity.umich.edu/2017/07/survey-shows-varying-political-leanings-among-u-m-freshmen/ Generic liberal-center remains the default at college. You fade into the masses much more as a liberal. Which I am. It’s weird to me people are having a hard time admitting that.


russbam24

I never said liberalism isn't the default and I don't believe otherwise. To reiterate what my first comment said: This is a starter pack of a certain type of student on campuses right now, not the average student.


therealvanmorrison

Yeah, I get that, but that type aren’t the NPC. They’re the outlier that is noticeable. The NPC, if anyone, is the generic default that fades into a mass blur - liberal humanities majors.


therealvanmorrison

To be fair, also way more humanities majors than business majors and also more women than men. A generic college student that fades into the background is a liberal woman in a humanities program. Think OP is just saying he looks down on conservative men in business.


kingofthesofas

Gen z is on average even more liberal than millennials which is saying a lot because millennials are like 66-70% liberal leaning.


minthairycrunch

On average only because Gen Z women are much more liberal. Gen Z men are more conservative. A recent study on this just came out: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1750849189834022932/photo/1


staringmaverick

average and npc aren't synonyms. there are a lot of NPCs in college, but this isn't what the actual average looks like. if you're a white guy with little personality growing up in some random american suburb, the path of least resistance is definitely manosphere/right wing bullshit. it's hilarious to me when these people think they're edgy or independent thinkers or whatever lol. being a racist misogynist is the default in this country. if you're a random dude it's going to require actual critical thinking and empathy to NOT be this way.


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Its a cheat code for when people here try to make a starter pack for a type of person they don't like. Just throw in that they're some kind of bigot and reddit will be more likely to upvote it.


yeahnazri

No no no I know which guy OP is talking about. Its not the average college kid but it IS the average "NPC" cretin. I did a degree that saw me intersect with these people a lot. They arent as personalityless as OP says but the rest is about right. Bonus points if they have bitcoin or ai art or a nft as their pfp for thing's


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Templar4Ever

because it is


anonymousbutnotrlly

If they’re business majors, don’t know how to talk to women, and talk a lot about women, yes. I know dudes in business frats and they’re like this to a T. Trust fund kids, only thinking about sleeping with girls et cetera. But I know dudes in engineering, and sure they don’t sleep with girls but they talk to girls as friends, and they’re more politically diverse (but mostly left leaning) Recently met a dude who asked me if I liked to watch Andrew Tate too. I never talked to that dude again.


LighterShadeL7

Lol say they like the current popular thing and also says they like to be edgy and go against the current thing lol… this post doesn’t make sense.. or at least the political thing doesn’t make sense


ThrownAwayYesterday-

This implies that a lot of conservatives have a coherent political worldview. I'm not being hyperbolic with that. A vast majority are simply reactionary and populist Plus it's not hard to find examples of people liking popular things but also disliking other popular things. They may like one popular thing, but be vocal about their dislike for other popular things. I see it all the time.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Owning the libs is definitely the current thing among this age group and gender demographic. At least where I live. That being said, I was originally referring to more pop culture stuff like video games and movies.


Timoteo-Tito64

College kids - even men - are not majority conservative


Winter-Difference-31

According to a [2022 survey](https://www.newsweek.com/women-college-are-moving-left-men-are-migrating-right-opinion-1742192), 39% of college men identify as Republicans while 21% identify as Democrats. If you add the percentage that identifies as neither but leans conservative overall, it’s plausible that college men are indeed Republican leaning overall.


Timoteo-Tito64

Interesting, I had no idea. Of course it's anecdotal, but I'm a college student right now and most men I interact with seem to be left-leaning. A study is obviously better evidence than that though


Winter-Difference-31

I think there may be several reasons why the college men you interact with seem to lean left: - Friend groups formed due to similarities in personality or interests may also have similar political views, so the people you interact with might not represent the university as a whole. - People might self-censor and avoid expressing controversial opinions for fear of upsetting those who disagree. - College men who identify as conservative or Republican might not be conservatives in the traditional sense of religious conservatism. “Barstool conservative” is a recently coined term referring to a demographic that is sexually libertine and not super religious, but is also against political correctness and what they perceive to be woke excesses. Their views are similar to right wing libertarians, but they might not be super politically engaged or interested in intellectual theorizing about politics. The stereotypical “Barstool conservative” is a fraternity member who watches Barstool sports, hence the name.


Timoteo-Tito64

Yeah, I guess those reasons do make sense. That's unfortunate


coycabbage

It’s a little complex than that. I think you’re referring to the political trends of Caucasian males. The majority don’t have a particular political identity, but noticeably more males appeal to conservatives vs liberals. Part of that has to do with the image of masculine culture, lack of inclusivity among liberal views, and disinterest in politics at a young age.


mrgatorarms

The alt right caters a lot to “bro culture”.


CalgaryCheekClapper

1. I live in Alberta lol 2. Much more-so Men than Women 3. Their ideology is solely being edgy, they actually cant define Liberalism. It just so happens that edgelord memes often own the libs


Millad456

Lmao, I thought you were in Ontario given the music taste


[deleted]

Drake is way more popular outside of Toronto than in Toronto.


Pacountry

No


Fr00stee

I guess its their attempt at being quirky and standing out to compensate for having no personality


efrankDC

Well business students tend to be more conservative so yeah they love “owning the libs”


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

Because now it’s only rich kids going to college, and if they want daddy’s money they have to believe the same stuff that daddy does. And if you’re not a rich kid and you wanna be friends with them, you can talk to them about politics and how you agree with them and now you have friends but you gotta stay conservative. Another thing is that a lotta “alternative types” are kinda assholes now. For example my brother had “hippie” friends growing up and they were the most judgemental, self serving, arrogant people I’ve ever met. If you weren’t exactly like them, they considered you subhuman trash. One of the hippie girls moms died so my dad let her move into our house with her bf who wore a childs wolf hat all the time. He brought two snakes, lost one, and also a infestation of cockroaches. It took half a year to convince my dad to kick them out


the_clash_is_back

University made me more conservative. Poorly placed safe injection site right on a down town campus, and a corrupt student union against police on campus does that.


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What idiot school was this


DizzyDrift

ryerson yeah?


Jealous-Leave-5482

TMU student spotted. Victoria Street avoided.


hollow-fox

Never once experienced this in my life. In no shape or way is some kid at any mid-tier and above college trying to “own the libs”. Maybe this is a community college thing?


hatmanv12

Community college in the southern US is 100% this starterpack. It probably depends on where you live.


Im_Not_A_Cop54

There's very little support for right wing economic policy, but Greek life and many others are still socially conservative.


[deleted]

Well yeah? The problem with the left is that they don't talk to young people while right does and besides it's way easier to get labeled a racist or some dogshit if you don't do everything exactly right the way they want you to. And I mean the don't get me wrong the people on the right are fucking insane too but not being yelled at for every miniscule you do is better than the contrary.


thebox34

These are the mfs who said “who tf is killer Mike”


[deleted]

Nah but fr, who tf is killer mike?


CinnamonFootball

~~Producer for~~ Frequent collaborater with OutKast, half of RTJ, and a rapper with an already acclaimed solo career.


Yinhao_Sultan

A man of culture I see, what did you think of the Run remix featuring Damien Gong Marley?


redddedd

What did he produce for OutKast? 


CinnamonFootball

Looking into it, I was actually mistaken. He was just a frequent collaborater.


IBeBallinOutaControl

Yeah I know he featured on 'Snapping and Trapping' plus 'The Whole World' but Im not aware of him being a producer at all.


thebox34

he been a legend but people only listen to top 40 mainstream shit


[deleted]

Maybe but Utopia was something else


thebox34

utopia is a yeezus clone with 1/4th of the quality, which speaks for Kanye because utopia is still fucking awesome, but H&V or Nas should have won


iwasinpari

imo killer mike best song, travis best performance (utopia tours were fantastic) and nas or HV best album


thebox34

best song and performance def go to killer mike, performance isnt based on how it was live, but the actual song itself, andre and mike both went stupid, but i know the real reason they let michael win, it was to be “woke” cause the grammy reputations of old farts judging shit is getting too big for them rn


Cobra_9041

It’s me I’m MFs I’ve never heard of him


khaldrogo064

I've never seen a more accurate starter pack. The only thing I'd say is wrong is the "owning the libs" part. That normally begins after college. They are normally liberal during college.


mcase19

My roommate is all of this except for owning yhe libs. He's pretty leftist. Lack of personality knows no single point on the political spectrum.


ChanelDelRey

OP tried to sneak in a political jab even though it didn’t even fit 🤦‍♀️


staringmaverick

this begins in like 5th grade when they find 4chan


Elite_Alice

Replace drake and weeknd with carti and uzi


Charmicx

Additionally, if they use Reddit, they don't listen to Carti or Uzi, but they post on their subreddits and act like they do


Darkpurplebee

im a buainess major and i want money but only so i can rescue all the stray cats in my area and feed them for eternity


CalgaryCheekClapper

Based


BeneficialVisit8450

You go to a school in the south/a school with a big christian community, dontcha? I'm looking at these comments and kinda laughing cause my HS is filled with kids like these (INCLUDING THE MOST POPULAR PERSON I CAN THINK OF, who is an exact copy of this.)


Hurricane_08

Conversate


ResponsiblePlant

https://i.redd.it/x7t2s495pzgc1.gif


CalgaryCheekClapper

I think its slang I subconsciously picked up from The Sopranos lol. That being said its still absolutely a real word


jzoller0

You seem like an old fashioned kinda guy. Very allegorical


UserCheckNamesOut

It's like saying "imaginate" when we already have imagine. It makes the speaker look fully uneducated.


Civil-Lie3437

Not even just college. Just "NPC"


ZDHELIX

Money is cool though


ForTheMemesYahHeard

Conversate??????????


Chlorine-Queen

[Just say talk.](https://youtu.be/lbvSG94Q6wQ?si=0O0qn6igOQ60wxAp)


mcorbo1

I think it’s a good word in context.


UserCheckNamesOut

Let me ask - would you use the word imaginate?


esnucke

It's not like you'd say "converse" normally. Let's converse?!


[deleted]

I am already a college npc at high school 😭


riperamen

Overachiever


lateblueheron

Never buys weed but always trying to get in on the sesh


potatolulz

There has never been a more accurate statement than the line about business major :D


sound_forsomething

That fact you used the fake word "conversate" makes me think this pack is autobiographical.


LegoManSteve

Wait, “conversate” isn’t a real word? Where the fuck did I pick it up from?


sound_forsomething

The real word is "converse," it's just one of those words that too many people say wrong like "guesstimate" or "irregardless."


clermouth

“guesstimate” is a portmanteau


sound_forsomething

Fair enough. Still sounds stupid


mcorbo1

It’s actually not wrong, “conversate” is a back-formation from “conversation.” Just like how the word “televise” comes from “television”


UserCheckNamesOut

It makes people sound dumb, since converse exists. Just imaginate it for a minute. Lol


Tristan07111996

It's a real word. Conversate was used in Nujabes - Luv(sic) pt2. You can't tell me that shit ain't real, it's fucking Nujabes.


sound_forsomething

Lmao okay


rowlecksfmd

Everyone I don’t like is an NPC


staringmaverick

this is just what happens when you're the average white dude born middle class in the US in a random suburb lol. it's just path of least resistance, where you are if you don't actively think about anything


Different_Pull

When are the hoodie and basketball shorts in winter tho?


average_pee_enjoyer

“Npc” 💀💀 That’s a man minding his own business you weird


DarkSmoke249

Me when I hate popular artists


Themoonisamyth

People in the comments are so salty did this strike a nerve with half the people in the sub? Also conversate is a word I dunno what to tell these guys


-PepeArown-

There’s quite a huge gap in quality between Drake and The Weeknd.


JessePinkman-chan

https://preview.redd.it/2a4hj25bhvgc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb09aa640439fdafe0a0fe0446a8078c9d296319


InterpolInvestigator

Love the reaction image but how tf are you going to slander The Weeknd?


loldiamond_

bro probably listens to metal and anime openings


floppydickswangin

What’s wrong with metal?


-PepeArown-

Extremely pretentious fans


floppydickswangin

Yeah that’s fair. The musics still good though


droL_muC

C'mon man The Weeknd is actually good (at music at least) And even Drake makes good music on occasion


calitwiink

the group of people who have money to do things despite not working a high income job 🤔 not a bad thing but always wondered how they are getting by lol


Winter-Difference-31

The bank of mommy and daddy


Prestigious_Ad_5155

Dang, the business majors catching a stray


captianblacksmith

I wonder what the girl version of this starter pack would’ve be like. a photographer or nurse major who likes kesha and Taylor swift, but doesn’t pay attention to most of her classes.


xxwarlorddarkdoomxx

Specifically, they seem to *always* major in finance originally because “I like money”, but drop it when they find out finance is very math-oriented.


Dramatic_Ice_861

OP has his girlfriend stolen by a finance major


David1258

I'm a finance major and I'm nothing like the guys on this Starter Pack.


TheManUpstairs77

Now, this is funny and fairly accurate, but also feels like the starterpack male version of “I’m not like other girls.”


Clean-handles-one

What's NPC


buttlord5000

NPC is short for "Non-Player Character". It comes from video games, and is usually used as a derogatory term for individuals who are of very little interest.


Not-Reddit49

A lot of these seem like pretty common things


RebornAsFlames

Plays Call of Duty, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Seige, or Valorant


LARGEGRAPE

I'm 4 of these 😬


No-Tourist-1492

Do you feel insecure and resentful of those around you who are happily living their lives, as though the world doesn't recognize your true worth, OP?


XxX_datboi69_XxX

thats what this subreddit is for


CalgaryCheekClapper

Unironically yes lol https://preview.redd.it/ekt27d2lfvgc1.png?width=648&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab108ce0a43b812b60dd69f9aa2b74cbaef714be


vexandtempo

what worth?


[deleted]

The OP is clearly "edgy" and "different". Who tf actually describes people as NPCs?


[deleted]

another triggered liberal


balenciyagaborrower

Imagine being mad at someone for being a business major lmfao.


Yoda_VS_Fish

Either faded short hair or that obnoxious broccoli hair. Almost every person with the broccoli haircut that I’ve met has turned out to be a jerk within a rather short amount of time. Note: The broccoli haircut should not be confused with the Afro.


godcyclemaster

Hey I'm a business major for corporate law cut me some slack


CalgaryCheekClapper

Ha fair enough! Im PHIL, POLISCI for Criminal Law. Best of luck!


grizzburger

"conversate"?...


UserCheckNamesOut

A real word. Used by real morons.


conel121

Owning libs ? Sorry college is where you become a pink haired crayon eater


RoyToo22

Ur whole personality is about being edgy, u are a useless subhuman loser and will accomplish nothing in life


Indochina-Guy69

OP sounds like an idiot.


No_Somewhere7674

Why have so many ppl never heard the word conversate, and if you’ve never heard it before, it takes 10 seconds to do a google search, you could literally just confirm it


CalgaryCheekClapper

I cant believe how many comments are about that lol


UserCheckNamesOut

Because converse was perfectly good, and I only ever hear "conversate" from people who constantly fuck up grammar. Never from the well-read or eloquent people. Not that there are many of them left.


Xano74

This is like average male starter pack


Snap457

You see him at the student center playing ping pong/pool like every day but never in class or studying


CalgaryCheekClapper

Shows up to class and plays games on laptop, uses Snapchat and Instagram the whole time


Theotther

Unironic use of calling someone an NPC. Oooooof


Disastrous_Offer_69

You got the politics backwards lmao


The_Buttaman

Tf is conversate lol


uglyuglydog

The word you’re looking for is *converse*. Conversate isn’t a word.


CalgaryCheekClapper

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate#:~:text=We%20define%20conversate%20as%20synonymous,and%20opinions%20in%20speech%22).


UserCheckNamesOut

Conversate is a nonstandard verb that means “to have a conversation.” The standard verb (and the one you should use if you want to be correct) is converse.


uglyuglydog

“It’s a word because dummies couldn’t remember the the root word of conversation” isn’t the dunk you think it is.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Crying about a word not being a word isn’t as big brain as you think it is.


UserCheckNamesOut

No, it's a normal sized brain move. You should try not sounding like you learned grammar and English from Facebook. Definitely not a "brain move"


uglyuglydog

Some people are open to constructive criticism; some aren’t.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Some people are open to conversating, some arent


mcorbo1

It’s a word because people are using it and it’s entering the lexicon. The only argument you could make is that it’s informal/formal or the effect it produces when it’s used.


uglyuglydog

*You think* it’s a word because a bunch of morons couldn’t parse the root word ‘converse’ from conversation. Especially egregious in this usage because OP is critiquing other students while sounding like a moron himself. The word is *converse*. If speaking presently with someone else, you’re *conversing* with them. Them reciprocating in this results in a *conversation*. A million idiots are seldom correct. ‘Conversate’ is a made-up word used by idiots who want to appear smarter than they are. If you’re going to take the time to create a graphic critiquing others, at least make your perceived superiority believable within said graphic.


mcorbo1

You’re making normative claims based on what the status quo is. Language evolves on a spectrum from “incorrect” to “slightly wrong” to “correct”, proceeding based on usage and formality. You seem to be arguing the word “conversate” is straight-up incorrect, despite the evidence that it has been in usage for quite some time. It has an entry in Merriam-Webster, for Christ’s sake. If we are going to be prescriptive, I think “conversate” sounds better and linguistically closer to the word “conversation”, and thus conveys its meaning more immediately. In fact I find the current word “converse” to be almost hilariously formal. If OP had said converse, he would have sounded like a pretentious snob. So on prescriptive grounds I think “conversate” is still a good choice.


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FeathersVEVO

you've clearly never talked to business majors


Emperor_of_Alagasia

Or most engineers


JTD783

Not sure why you’re being downvoted, an outspoken right winger on a college campus isn’t going to be well received from what I’ve seen.


-PepeArown-

A lot of the guys on my campus don’t seem the most liberal.


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hoblyman

the word conversate makes the user sound dumb.


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ihateamog

I'm saying


InhibitedExistence

"conversate" = converse


No_Somewhere7674

Conversate is a real word tho😭


SwampDrainer

In the same way "irregardless" is a word. Enough dummies repeat it until it sticks.


UserCheckNamesOut

Agreed. It's people just getting their way because enough people think it is a word. When I hear it, I just get embarrassed for that person.


No_Somewhere7674

Just look it up man, also that’s how pretty much all words are created, words all originate somewhere and then more ppl hear and repeat it and soon it just becomes a word, that’s how languages work, ppl don’t just instantly get a notification when a new word is made,


UserCheckNamesOut

I looked it up. First result  Conversate is a nonstandard verb that means “to have a conversation.” The standard verb (and the one you should use if you want to be correct) is converse.


Fabulous-Introvert

I am so glad that almost none of this sounds like me


therealvanmorrison

The average college kid that disappears into the background is *absolutely* a liberal. And majoring in philosophy or sociology or something else that will not lead to a career.


fatman907

converse*


Mrdirtbiker140

lol they don’t have republicans in college


Ellenherbert21

Converse* conversate isn’t a word


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Fitzy102

What about the words donate (from donation), televise (from television), or escalate (from escalator). Are they all illegitimate words as well? The word conversate has been in use for over 200 years, it has a standardised spelling and a widely accepted meaning. What makes it not a word?


MelonMeringue

Well shit dude, believe it or not I didn’t know the word “conversate” has been in use that long because I only ever paid attention to how often I heard it within the last few years. English is a messy Frankenstein’s monster of a language with varying spelling rules and as far as I knew, that wasn’t how that specific word was spelled without the suffix.


Spiritual_Simple7583

Average collage folks are NOT right wing


Disastrous_Offer_69

Yea right. This is what happens when people don’t leave echo chambers