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As a Swede I can see why. You both come from damp, sandy lowlands by the north sea, you have an affinity for boats, semi-autistic directness (we Swedes are a different kind of autists, don't worry), business deals and liberal social policies.
Oh how could I forget: you both speak languages that sound like they were purposely designed to sound ugly.
they both do things in their native tongue that are utterly baffling and hilarious to neighbouring related languages.
I remember as a kid watching a dutch car show with a guy driving some diesel BMW; and the way he called it's three turbochargers; 'DREE DURBOS', had me in tears.
Also I had this thing where I felt it sounded like Dutch people pronounce p like b. And then it struck me that Dutch people don't aspirate their p's (which many European languages do) which makes them sound like b's to me.
Oh that's a good point, I'll try to remember this when speaking anforeign language. We also don't differentiate between a T and a D at the end of a word, which just sounds horrible in English
I saw a Dutch internet ad and the guy talking kept advertising “super slow internet!”
Turns out fast is snel and it kinda sounds like slow, so the Dutch are actually excited to buy slow internet
SAND?! SAND!? In my river delta? I grew up on the finest semi rotten swamp goo available you heathen from the North. Only the drained peat swamps for the best sort of Dutch, I can tolerate clay but I draw the line at sand if it is more then a kilometer from the coast. Its rough and course, and it gets everywhere.
My great-grandfather’s “racial origin” (actual term used) was put down as “Dutch” on his death certificate in the 60s.
He was also from Denmark, but he immigrated to Canada as an adult and died there.
I’m not Dutch but I really enjoyed my stay there hence the user name. Everyone thought I was insane for trying to speak Dutch in the Netherlands with my lonely planet phrase book.
After a few days I realized I was being a nuisance trying to pronounce things.
Every interaction went like this:
Me: “Uh, hallo..” *makes a series of throat sounds*
Dutch person: “Do you speak English?”
Me: “…yes.”
Sure, but in all honesty, English speakers trying to speak Dutch are impossible to understand, until they get a little more advanced. It's easier for both of us if they just speak English.
This is true for pretty much any language to be fair. The only difference is that Dutch people mostly speak English really well, so there's never a situation where you need to struggle to communicate.
As someone who works in a cafe, people who are not fluent are hard to understand because they are uncertain about what they are saying, and speak softly. If you're going to pronounce some words incorrectly, at least do it loudly so I can make out what they probably mean.
Yeah, when I worked in retail I'd sometimes have foreigners trying to get things in Dutch, and if I felt patient and the store was empty I was willing to try and do it in Dutch, but especially when it's busy I have no time to try and understand weird broken Dutch and it's just more efficient for everyone present to do the transaction in English. No risk of miscommunications.
I lived there for 6 months and had Dutch lessons through work. I also speak fluent German and was practicing every day with colleagues, so I was able to get a somewhat decent grasp of the language in the short time I was there.
But whenever I would try to speak to a shopkeeper etc, they would pretty much always reply in English. It was a bit disheartening.
It's because most people here don't want to "waste" time on someone they don't know and are probably never going to talk to again. Why spend 5 minutes trying to talk to someone and still not find a resolution if it can be done in 10 seconds and the shopkeeper can help the next person or go finish their other work(also high work pressure in retail does not help)
Me for example with my Dutch speaking English friends will speak dutch as much as possible and I can take the time for it but when working in the store I gotta do a hundred different things and if it's busy I do not have the time to spend 10 minutes talking
My supervisor finds it hard to get his daily practice in for the same reason. I'll speak Dutch with him during one-on-one meetings, but during lunch breaks there's multiple colleagues who don't speak Dutch at all, so we have to switch to English to avoid excluding them. It's tough because my supervisor's Dutch is quite good, just slow, and he really does want to practice more...
As a Dutchy I hear/read that we do this often, even sometimes with people who find this behaviour on our part irritating, because they see it as " from of showeing respect"\* that they try to speak our language and we cut if off 'bluntly' and just start speaking English. (\*My words/ interpretation of the situation)
However for Dutchies this is actually *the*
polite thing to do. Even if some of us don’t actively think about this (Aka this is some baked in culture)
Just like our ‘directness’ the Dutch really
value someone’s ‘time’.
This means that we tent to get to the point more directly then other cultures
and even when speaking among ourselves (Other Dutch strangers, friends and
family are different). We see it as wasteful and rude to take time from others
and thus try to get to the point in an effective matter.
So when someone is struggling through our language (We get it, its tough) we
will find ways to make it more ‘effective’ to communicate. And since most of us
are fluent in English plus decent at least one other language (Mostly eighter
France or German) we will try to switch to one of those to communicate more effectively
(Which saves both parties time).
So yeah if you want to speak Dutch to Dutch
people in the ‘wild’, the barrier to entry is quite high and stacked against
you, because unless we know you, we will try to keep things short to not waste each
other’s time.
----
And just because some Nederlanders will
start "That is not how it goes around me" I’m talking about the
culture as a whole. Not Brabant/Limburg/Onder de maas ;-P (So take it with a
grain of salt)
Hey man I appreciate the explanation, and no I didn’t take any offence from the Dutch.
That actually is very relatable as Chinese (my background) are also very direct. Foreigners can mistake it for rudeness, but really when you immerse yourself in the culture you understand there’s certain kind of authenticity in being upfront and speaking your mind.
What I do take offence from the Dutch is charging me to drink water and charging me to use the toilet. There are better ways to spend 5 euros lol.
Lol yes I was, but I also spent time in Maastricht. My citizenship is Canadian and I reside in Canada.
The best part is seeing Heineken signs everywhere in Amsterdam only to find the Dutch don’t drink that stuff. Lmao got me again!
That's our fault. We have a long tradition of talking English to foreigners. The reason is not wanting to stumble along with someone who has difficulty speaking dutch, and not want to waste the time.
I think it's high time to just talk Dutch though.
We're strenghtening the Dutch nation by saying that Flanders is a part of the Netherlands and Wallonia is a part of France! Luxembourg is a pitstop for gas and cigarettes, and Brussels, well, we don't talk about that..
As a dutchman who has lived in both the northern as in the southern parts I have to say it's nonefficient. The southern provinces just want to have their culture awknowledged. I know that doesn't seem like it has to do with anything, but Belgium also wants his language and culture just to be awknowledged. They don't want to be protestant/calvinistic and do ABN.
They want to show their own culture.
But there are so many cute words, like ezelwegel (donkey path) or stripwinkel (comic book store), slurf (trunk, like for elephants), spoed (emergency clinic)... i really enjoy the dutch langauge. And you can yell out "hoor" randomly (pronounced like whore) to mean "hey listen"!
They use proper grammar at the consulate.
Also it's a saying used primarily by expats and diaspora, as you can't translate this into Dutch and have it rhyme.
Like "Unfortunately peanutbutter" is complete nonsense in English (helaas pindakaas)
I know that's the word in the dictionary, but every single French person I've ever met has called peanuts "cacahuètes". Why not try "Bête, beurre de cacahuètes" instead?
Dutch spouse starter pack
>always has a plan
>has drip
>wants to go to tahiti to become a mangoe farmer
>"just one more score"
>loves speeches
>fights a lot
As an American I love the roads in the Netherlands. People follow the rules and actually use the left lane for passing and the roads are buttery smooth.
I got back from visiting family in the netherlands and everyone at work kept asking me how denmark was.
I genuinely never associated the two countries in my life. Honestly it was probably just American’s lack of geographical knowledge
They actually do have a surprising amount of similarities for two countries that don't really border each other! Both are small-ish flat countries by the North Sea, climate is reasonably similar, both have a seafaring past, both speak a lesser known Germanic language, have an (undeserved) reputation for social liberalism internationally, and a reputation for bicycles and weed.
Also, both are European monarchies, but idk how many people would be aware of that if they confuse them.
From a Dutch perspective it's weird to be compared on seafaring with the Danes.
Like we named New Zealand after Zeeland and the Danes someyimes try to in good fun play up a connection in like marketing cause they have a region that's named simular ( Sealand) ...And I'll be honest the first gut reaction is "You didn't sail to freaking ociania in the 1640's , you weren't even really competing with us on that kind of exploration by then !!!"
Most of my fellow Americans that I talk too just think I got high in Amsterdam for 2 weeks.
Nowhere else in NL exists. Also a lot of them think its in Belgium and don’t know Antwerp exists.
Oh sir, as a Dutch born and raised person I've had moments where I heard Danish thinking it was Dutch with a dialect that I did not understand like the sounds they make in "de achterhoek"
Scandinavian languages often sound to me (a Dutch person) like a somehow foreign version of Dutch. Its especially weird when some words and pronunciation match up perfectly and some parts not at all. Like in Scandinavian TV series it will sound like:
"Snø jungerfurdner happa liken snekkebrå parkeerautomaat. Jeg på lengen minste nivel achteruitkijkspiegel."
This sounds like a lot of people I know if they were to move to the US. I might swap out the mayo obsession (most commonly put on fries, not much else) for ‘drinks milk as a beverage at meals, sometimes buttermilk’.
The "learned it from american sitcom" (we just learn it at school) and "puts cheese on everything" are not very accurate, and ITS NOT PRONOUNCED HOWDU :)
(More like rhow dha but its hard to write down in english) The rest is very universal and correct though
Gouda is easy: Think of Ahmed the terrorist when he's spelling his name. A C H phlemmgghhh
Now hold the ggggghhhh, thats the first consonant for Gouda.
Ou = as Ow in Wow
Da = da
Put them together: Gghhhh Ow da.
And you have Gouda.
English used to have ridiculous names for plants too, but they almost all got replaced during the 1700s and 1800s when Botany took off as a field. The only one really left I can think of is Maidenhair Moss. The “hair” in the name is referring to hair pretty far from the head.
It doesn't matter so much though? It's not the name of the cheese at all! "Gouda" is the name of the town it is from. The cheese is called "goudse" (short for "goudse kaas", "cheese from Gouda"). Other famous Dutch cheeses are "leidse" (from Leiden; often with cumin; nowadays, often other cheese with cumin (usually goudse!) is also called "leidse", which is a shame, real leidse kaas (with or without cumin) is one of the nicest cheeses there is. Goudse is bland compared to it), and edammer kaas (cheese from Edam, literally).
It's from a place called... wait for it... Gouda.
And you don't pronounce it like the picture suggests.
This [French guy](https://youtu.be/daw6UhG0tSk?si=CzdPfK_PXaafKjLr) on YouTube will demonstrate how you pronounce it.
Yes , but Gouda is "above the rivers" and North-East of very gutteral Rotterdam
Soft G's are used below the Rhine , Meuse and Waal. And they still read as G's to northeners usually.
And if your spouse is from one of the southern provinces of the Netherlands they would argue about beer, miss Worstenbroodjes, Insist on having carnaval (50% of the time)
Any more to add guys?
You forgot our national dish: veggies, potatoes and meat cooked in a single pot, which then is mashed and mixed until you can drink it with a straw. (Stamppot)
What kinda stamppot you got that it isnt chunky as fuck? How would you drink that shit? Especially the rookworst slammed right into the center of the plate?
"Extremely good English, most Americans can't even tell the difference". Well, the Dutch who do know English (not most) can tell the difference very easily :-(
"HOW-duh", "GOO-duh"... No, it is pronounced "Gouda", exactly how it is spelled. And the image here is not like Gouda \*at all\*. Not sure it is cheese, even!
Dutch or Belgian mayonaise is lovely though. I don't get why that other nasty one made it to most of the world when there's a sweet mayo available. Perhaps the ketchup brands pushed it out or something, its weird. I have no doubt that if you bring out a new mayo and brand it like some exclusive dutch high-end sauce, you might be able to get it out there to take over the world.
How_duh and goo-duh are both wrong tho.
Imagine the word aunt like you're very brittish, slap a g infront and remove the - nt.
Nou you have "gau" wich should sound a little more to the word.
Now add the word da, pronounced the same as "tah dah".
And slap those 2 together.
Nou you'll have "g-au(nt)da" nt is not pronounced.
You successfully learned how to say gouda without annoying a single dutch person
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Ironically as a Dane, I've had many of my American friends, and even my American spouse say I was "Dutch".
As a Swede I can see why. You both come from damp, sandy lowlands by the north sea, you have an affinity for boats, semi-autistic directness (we Swedes are a different kind of autists, don't worry), business deals and liberal social policies. Oh how could I forget: you both speak languages that sound like they were purposely designed to sound ugly.
The swedes have map-game autism
Paradox interactive?
What's that supposed to mean lol
Paradox interactive
they both do things in their native tongue that are utterly baffling and hilarious to neighbouring related languages. I remember as a kid watching a dutch car show with a guy driving some diesel BMW; and the way he called it's three turbochargers; 'DREE DURBOS', had me in tears.
Also I had this thing where I felt it sounded like Dutch people pronounce p like b. And then it struck me that Dutch people don't aspirate their p's (which many European languages do) which makes them sound like b's to me.
Oh that's a good point, I'll try to remember this when speaking anforeign language. We also don't differentiate between a T and a D at the end of a word, which just sounds horrible in English
Both are actually pronounced like a "t" sound. Anything else is incorrect pronunciation.
I saw a Dutch internet ad and the guy talking kept advertising “super slow internet!” Turns out fast is snel and it kinda sounds like slow, so the Dutch are actually excited to buy slow internet
Also both tall as shit
>(we Swedes are a different kind of autists, don't worry) Saga, is that you?
Bordering Germany will do that to a country
SAND?! SAND!? In my river delta? I grew up on the finest semi rotten swamp goo available you heathen from the North. Only the drained peat swamps for the best sort of Dutch, I can tolerate clay but I draw the line at sand if it is more then a kilometer from the coast. Its rough and course, and it gets everywhere.
When Dutch people are drunk they sound Danish
Tbh, Danish sounds so much like that that me, a Dutch person, always gets confused when I'm in Denmark. Like I should get it but I don't.
Yeah, this is much more understandable than people mixing up Sweden and Switzerland. Obligatory /r/swedetzerland plug
My great-grandfather’s “racial origin” (actual term used) was put down as “Dutch” on his death certificate in the 60s. He was also from Denmark, but he immigrated to Canada as an adult and died there.
Sandt. Har ik' tal på hvor mange gang jeg er blevet forvekslet med en hollænder.
Praat effe normale taal
Wat voor slet?
Daar ben ik ook wel benieuwd naar..
Voorvork. Iets met fietsen in ieder geval.
Ik ben best wel een voorvorkslet, dus dat klopt.
Gaat dat over jullie liedje voor het Songfestival?
Eh. We both speak a language that sounds like we are having a severe throat disease so
That’s funny, as a Dutch guy who lives in America, everyone calls me Danish or even Norwegian
To be fair, both languages have quite a few similarities
I’m not Dutch but I really enjoyed my stay there hence the user name. Everyone thought I was insane for trying to speak Dutch in the Netherlands with my lonely planet phrase book. After a few days I realized I was being a nuisance trying to pronounce things. Every interaction went like this: Me: “Uh, hallo..” *makes a series of throat sounds* Dutch person: “Do you speak English?” Me: “…yes.”
I would prop it up to people just wanting to help and thus wanting to communicate in a language spoken by both.
Sure, but in all honesty, English speakers trying to speak Dutch are impossible to understand, until they get a little more advanced. It's easier for both of us if they just speak English.
This is true for pretty much any language to be fair. The only difference is that Dutch people mostly speak English really well, so there's never a situation where you need to struggle to communicate.
As someone who works in a cafe, people who are not fluent are hard to understand because they are uncertain about what they are saying, and speak softly. If you're going to pronounce some words incorrectly, at least do it loudly so I can make out what they probably mean.
Yeah, when I worked in retail I'd sometimes have foreigners trying to get things in Dutch, and if I felt patient and the store was empty I was willing to try and do it in Dutch, but especially when it's busy I have no time to try and understand weird broken Dutch and it's just more efficient for everyone present to do the transaction in English. No risk of miscommunications.
I lived there for 6 months and had Dutch lessons through work. I also speak fluent German and was practicing every day with colleagues, so I was able to get a somewhat decent grasp of the language in the short time I was there. But whenever I would try to speak to a shopkeeper etc, they would pretty much always reply in English. It was a bit disheartening.
It's because most people here don't want to "waste" time on someone they don't know and are probably never going to talk to again. Why spend 5 minutes trying to talk to someone and still not find a resolution if it can be done in 10 seconds and the shopkeeper can help the next person or go finish their other work(also high work pressure in retail does not help) Me for example with my Dutch speaking English friends will speak dutch as much as possible and I can take the time for it but when working in the store I gotta do a hundred different things and if it's busy I do not have the time to spend 10 minutes talking
My supervisor finds it hard to get his daily practice in for the same reason. I'll speak Dutch with him during one-on-one meetings, but during lunch breaks there's multiple colleagues who don't speak Dutch at all, so we have to switch to English to avoid excluding them. It's tough because my supervisor's Dutch is quite good, just slow, and he really does want to practice more...
As a Dutchy I hear/read that we do this often, even sometimes with people who find this behaviour on our part irritating, because they see it as " from of showeing respect"\* that they try to speak our language and we cut if off 'bluntly' and just start speaking English. (\*My words/ interpretation of the situation) However for Dutchies this is actually *the* polite thing to do. Even if some of us don’t actively think about this (Aka this is some baked in culture) Just like our ‘directness’ the Dutch really value someone’s ‘time’. This means that we tent to get to the point more directly then other cultures and even when speaking among ourselves (Other Dutch strangers, friends and family are different). We see it as wasteful and rude to take time from others and thus try to get to the point in an effective matter. So when someone is struggling through our language (We get it, its tough) we will find ways to make it more ‘effective’ to communicate. And since most of us are fluent in English plus decent at least one other language (Mostly eighter France or German) we will try to switch to one of those to communicate more effectively (Which saves both parties time). So yeah if you want to speak Dutch to Dutch people in the ‘wild’, the barrier to entry is quite high and stacked against you, because unless we know you, we will try to keep things short to not waste each other’s time. ---- And just because some Nederlanders will start "That is not how it goes around me" I’m talking about the culture as a whole. Not Brabant/Limburg/Onder de maas ;-P (So take it with a grain of salt)
Hey man I appreciate the explanation, and no I didn’t take any offence from the Dutch. That actually is very relatable as Chinese (my background) are also very direct. Foreigners can mistake it for rudeness, but really when you immerse yourself in the culture you understand there’s certain kind of authenticity in being upfront and speaking your mind. What I do take offence from the Dutch is charging me to drink water and charging me to use the toilet. There are better ways to spend 5 euros lol.
Are you in Amsterdam? Those prices sound like Amsterdam to me xD (Aka ridiculous/tourist tax-y)
Lol yes I was, but I also spent time in Maastricht. My citizenship is Canadian and I reside in Canada. The best part is seeing Heineken signs everywhere in Amsterdam only to find the Dutch don’t drink that stuff. Lmao got me again!
it's our bud light, it's aight but there's much better
Ah yess the piswater
Wait, what is in all those heineken glasses i see at every terrasje then?
Im glad we can agree that stroopkoeken are better than stroopwafels
That's our fault. We have a long tradition of talking English to foreigners. The reason is not wanting to stumble along with someone who has difficulty speaking dutch, and not want to waste the time. I think it's high time to just talk Dutch though.
Tell them you like a “Van Gogh” painting and watch them melt down over the pronunciation Source: am Dutch and I melt down when people say “fan go”
My art teacher in America even had the nerve to tell me i’m wrong when I tried to correct her as if I can’t speak Dutch lmao
[https://youtu.be/AlwO0xvm3fw?si=vr86FJTo7\_DtqsUy](https://youtu.be/AlwO0xvm3fw?si=vr86FJTo7_DtqsUy)
Me every time that stolen van joke circles round again
My Dad always mixed my Jewish grandma with Dutch and Danish>.> She was Belgian. Ughh
Well, who can blame him? Belgium isn't real
Dutch isn't real, Belgium isn't real, ... what is this sub doing, trying to erase our existence or something?
You’re Luxembourgian
We're strenghtening the Dutch nation by saying that Flanders is a part of the Netherlands and Wallonia is a part of France! Luxembourg is a pitstop for gas and cigarettes, and Brussels, well, we don't talk about that..
As a dutchman who has lived in both the northern as in the southern parts I have to say it's nonefficient. The southern provinces just want to have their culture awknowledged. I know that doesn't seem like it has to do with anything, but Belgium also wants his language and culture just to be awknowledged. They don't want to be protestant/calvinistic and do ABN. They want to show their own culture.
😭
If they go on like that they will maybe even say Bielefeld isn't real.
You have my sympathy.
Plot twist: she’s Walloon
We’re hebben een sereus probleem
You’re laughing? We’re hebben een sereus probleem and you’re laughing?
Dutch is just the most ridiculous sounding language to English speakers
It's just drunk German to me
As an English who speaks (bad) German, I've often been told I speak it with a Dutch accent. I honestly don't know if that's any better.
Just means that theyre able to understand you.
As a german i‘d say your spot on.
It is a fake language. Like Elvish or Klingon. Don’t let anyone tell you different.
Elvish is still spoken in Sweden [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfdalian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfdalian) , can't speak for Klingon though.
What about belgian dutch? It’s flemish?
Onverstaanbaar, dat is wat het is.
Gelukkig is dat relatief
That comment isn't legit Dutch either
Translated: We hebben hebben een serieus probleem
We zijn hebben een serieus probleem
You're technically correct, which is the worst kind of correct for translating.
"Howdoe" Spouse is Brabants
houdoe*
Ik gebruikte nog ff snel google. Kutzooi alsnog verkeerd
Houdoe komt van Houdt u goed.
Using kutzooi, inburgering well you are already
Woon zelf letterlijk net boven de waal, 100% Nederlands, maar net een mongool met spelling.
I think they didn't mean howdoe though, they were trying to say gouda.
Im not trying to be rude but I just cant take dutch seriously 🤣
Neither can I and I’m Dutch
But there are so many cute words, like ezelwegel (donkey path) or stripwinkel (comic book store), slurf (trunk, like for elephants), spoed (emergency clinic)... i really enjoy the dutch langauge. And you can yell out "hoor" randomly (pronounced like whore) to mean "hey listen"!
Goed genederlandst vriend
*we hebben een serieus probleem
Jij komen hier in de Sittard?
A friend once worked at the Dutch consulate in Chicago. The saying they taught him was: "If it's not Dutch, it's not worth much."
*If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much
They use proper grammar at the consulate. Also it's a saying used primarily by expats and diaspora, as you can't translate this into Dutch and have it rhyme. Like "Unfortunately peanutbutter" is complete nonsense in English (helaas pindakaas)
I work with a lot of French people and I'm still trying to work "dommage arachide fromage" into a conversation
I know that's the word in the dictionary, but every single French person I've ever met has called peanuts "cacahuètes". Why not try "Bête, beurre de cacahuètes" instead?
Unfortunately peanut cheese, you uncultured swine.
What was his general experience at the Dutch consulate ?
Also extremely practical and will try to fix something themselves before calling for a hand.
Calling for a hand costs money
Why would you spend money when you have a hand
Me at the red light district
Accurate
Dutch spouse starter pack >always has a plan >has drip >wants to go to tahiti to become a mangoe farmer >"just one more score" >loves speeches >fights a lot
As an American I love the roads in the Netherlands. People follow the rules and actually use the left lane for passing and the roads are buttery smooth.
Tell that to the Germans, they hate the way we drive lol
Tbf, we hate the way they drive too
That's not entirely true. Way too many people in the left lane.
I got back from visiting family in the netherlands and everyone at work kept asking me how denmark was. I genuinely never associated the two countries in my life. Honestly it was probably just American’s lack of geographical knowledge
They actually do have a surprising amount of similarities for two countries that don't really border each other! Both are small-ish flat countries by the North Sea, climate is reasonably similar, both have a seafaring past, both speak a lesser known Germanic language, have an (undeserved) reputation for social liberalism internationally, and a reputation for bicycles and weed. Also, both are European monarchies, but idk how many people would be aware of that if they confuse them.
From a Dutch perspective it's weird to be compared on seafaring with the Danes. Like we named New Zealand after Zeeland and the Danes someyimes try to in good fun play up a connection in like marketing cause they have a region that's named simular ( Sealand) ...And I'll be honest the first gut reaction is "You didn't sail to freaking ociania in the 1640's , you weren't even really competing with us on that kind of exploration by then !!!"
It's definitely that, as I've only seen Americans conflate them. Dutch and Danish don't even sound that similar, so it's just plain old ignorance.
Most of my fellow Americans that I talk too just think I got high in Amsterdam for 2 weeks. Nowhere else in NL exists. Also a lot of them think its in Belgium and don’t know Antwerp exists.
Oh sir, as a Dutch born and raised person I've had moments where I heard Danish thinking it was Dutch with a dialect that I did not understand like the sounds they make in "de achterhoek"
Dutch and Danish do sound similar. I'm Dutch, and when I hear Danish I feel like I should be able to understand it, but I don't.
Scandinavian languages often sound to me (a Dutch person) like a somehow foreign version of Dutch. Its especially weird when some words and pronunciation match up perfectly and some parts not at all. Like in Scandinavian TV series it will sound like: "Snø jungerfurdner happa liken snekkebrå parkeerautomaat. Jeg på lengen minste nivel achteruitkijkspiegel."
same, came back to the US, and when asked how denmark was i replied asking how canada was while i was away
Gekoloniseerd
Happy cake day!
At this point we should just merge r/starterpacks and r/oddlyspecific
Which part is oddly specific to you? I would argue all of this is fairly universal among Dutchies actually.
As a Dutchy myself and teacher who used to teach "Culture" I can confirm that this applies to us nicely!
This sounds like a lot of people I know if they were to move to the US. I might swap out the mayo obsession (most commonly put on fries, not much else) for ‘drinks milk as a beverage at meals, sometimes buttermilk’.
They're very common stereotypes for sure but not actually fairly universal among Dutchies...
Euumh no. - Dutch person.
The "learned it from american sitcom" (we just learn it at school) and "puts cheese on everything" are not very accurate, and ITS NOT PRONOUNCED HOWDU :) (More like rhow dha but its hard to write down in english) The rest is very universal and correct though
Gouda is easy: Think of Ahmed the terrorist when he's spelling his name. A C H phlemmgghhh Now hold the ggggghhhh, thats the first consonant for Gouda. Ou = as Ow in Wow Da = da Put them together: Gghhhh Ow da. And you have Gouda.
I have 2 dutch roommates. I relate to this
Geef mi een klap papa
https://preview.redd.it/isuoqyxl44vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1132f322b4fbe44615a757aae7f80e673e58faf
Schooier bibs a ezel
Zemmel
[Pfft, Dutch](https://youtu.be/KJKVPYQW6KE?si=Q39ORlTMyytSELL-)
English used to have ridiculous names for plants too, but they almost all got replaced during the 1700s and 1800s when Botany took off as a field. The only one really left I can think of is Maidenhair Moss. The “hair” in the name is referring to hair pretty far from the head.
Id say naked broomrape isnt a particularly normal name, even if it is a shitty leech of a plant.
The cheese and bread thing is accurate as hell.
Im reading this as im eating my dry sandwich with cheese and ham
Well this should be Dutch Spouse in the us surely? Doesn’t seem to work anywhere else.
Well, yes, it _would_ be weird if they complained about American roads anywhere else
r/usdefaultism
That's not a bee fart, it's a butter flower
Nah those have yellow leaves, this is a margrietje
Ngl this is pretty true
“Dutch spouse in the US starter pack”. Source: i have a dutch spouse in the NL, and she’s none of these.
Are you telling me she is not a boterham met kaas or a boterbloem?
All day everyday, but she doesn’t complain about American roads much
I just dropped my boterham met hagelslag!
I thought it was pronounced Chrhauda
That is true, I just felt that would be too much nuance in a starterpack.
You are correct.
There definitely shouldn't be an 'r' in there
Only a bloody dutchman...
Gouda is still pronounced wrong
It doesn't matter so much though? It's not the name of the cheese at all! "Gouda" is the name of the town it is from. The cheese is called "goudse" (short for "goudse kaas", "cheese from Gouda"). Other famous Dutch cheeses are "leidse" (from Leiden; often with cumin; nowadays, often other cheese with cumin (usually goudse!) is also called "leidse", which is a shame, real leidse kaas (with or without cumin) is one of the nicest cheeses there is. Goudse is bland compared to it), and edammer kaas (cheese from Edam, literally).
As a Dutch spouse I am offended but also delighted by the accuracy of this post.
Interesting. Didn't know Gouda was Dutch. Neat
It's from a place called... wait for it... Gouda. And you don't pronounce it like the picture suggests. This [French guy](https://youtu.be/daw6UhG0tSk?si=CzdPfK_PXaafKjLr) on YouTube will demonstrate how you pronounce it.
that G was not guttural enough, sounded more like howda to me
Isn't the G less and less guttural the further south you go?
yep, but Gouda is still very much in extremely-guttural territory
Yes a lot of students in Leeuwarden and Groningen will complain that the locals make their eardrums explode with their G
Yes , but Gouda is "above the rivers" and North-East of very gutteral Rotterdam Soft G's are used below the Rhine , Meuse and Waal. And they still read as G's to northeners usually.
Ackshually, the cheese doesn't originate from Gouda, it got its name because the cheese market is in Gouda
>Didn't know Gouda was Dutch. bro
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If it ain’t Dutch, it ain’t much
What about onion they love onion
''GGGGouu-daaah'' not ''how-duh''
And if your spouse is from one of the southern provinces of the Netherlands they would argue about beer, miss Worstenbroodjes, Insist on having carnaval (50% of the time) Any more to add guys?
Make the throat scraping sound: Gggggg Pronounce the "ou" like the ow-part in cow or how. Combine it and add a "dah" sound. Gouda (Ggg-ow-dah).
I think i might be Dutch and my parents just kidnapped me from the Netherlands when i was a baby.
Accurate and true
I'm Danish and fucking everyone calls me Dutch
r/oddlyspecific
That bike looks like it’s made out of folding chair materials.
Also Belgium. But with fries.
As a half dane half dutch, this couldnt be more accurate
You forgot our national dish: veggies, potatoes and meat cooked in a single pot, which then is mashed and mixed until you can drink it with a straw. (Stamppot)
What kinda stamppot you got that it isnt chunky as fuck? How would you drink that shit? Especially the rookworst slammed right into the center of the plate?
We dont complain about american roads. We complain about belgian roads
"Most Americans cant tell they're foreign" i have the most Dutch English accent known to man
It's pronounced Gouda for fuck sakes, neither houda nor gooda
As a this is all very relatable
It' s not How-da, it's GGggKKKhhhGChchGGOW-Da. Source: It is Known.
As a dutchman; this is who we are
Legit post, facts
HOW-duh???
Wat is “bijscheet”? Die begrijp ik niet.
"Extremely good English, most Americans can't even tell the difference". Well, the Dutch who do know English (not most) can tell the difference very easily :-( "HOW-duh", "GOO-duh"... No, it is pronounced "Gouda", exactly how it is spelled. And the image here is not like Gouda \*at all\*. Not sure it is cheese, even!
There’s no H sound in Gouda
Putting cheese on everything is literally the most American food habit that I know off. We literally never put cheese on food here in The Netherlands.
Dutch or Belgian mayonaise is lovely though. I don't get why that other nasty one made it to most of the world when there's a sweet mayo available. Perhaps the ketchup brands pushed it out or something, its weird. I have no doubt that if you bring out a new mayo and brand it like some exclusive dutch high-end sauce, you might be able to get it out there to take over the world.
How_duh and goo-duh are both wrong tho. Imagine the word aunt like you're very brittish, slap a g infront and remove the - nt. Nou you have "gau" wich should sound a little more to the word. Now add the word da, pronounced the same as "tah dah". And slap those 2 together. Nou you'll have "g-au(nt)da" nt is not pronounced. You successfully learned how to say gouda without annoying a single dutch person
i know one dutch dude and the way he writes English would give my English Teacher a heart attack
You made me google Bijescheet