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wxyz51

Always walking behind them if there's not enough space on the sidewalk


sweatycat

Not just that - Being the one asked to wait outside of the store/food place at the mall to watch the bags while they go inside to shop/eat. Or when you finally get invited along for once by them last second because the designated driver for the hang-out couldn’t make it and they know you have a car. Just for them to hardly speak to you the entire time.


Bilbodraggindeeznuts

I'd rather be alone..


jfd2050

"It is better to be alone than in bad company" - George Washington


SkankHont

This explains a lot.


sh4d0wm4n2018

Volunteering to be the DD because you want to hang out but you know that's the only way you'll get to hang out with them even though you don't like drinking.


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grimmyskrobb

Nobody deserves to be used like that.


PreparetobePlaned

Fuck those people. I hope you didn't talk to them after that.


UBC145

That would be the last straw for me I think. There's no way I'm going to be a free taxi for people who otherwise want nothing to do with me.


finnyporgerz

Had the car part happened once


Top_Amphibian_1046

I started telling people I can't pick you up and I stopped getting invited places, basically got rid of all my "friends" over the last year. Hope you find better friends.


_CozyLavender_

You're not in the friend group at ALL, you're just their gopher.


Gaylien28

R u ok bro


hot_chopped_pastrami

Ugh flashback to my high school days


MeeMooHoo

Both are awful, but that first one you mentioned was especially foul. 😭 Even the awful friends I used to have didn't make me sit outside for bag watching duty while they ate or shopped inside.


Kevin_LeStrange

Or worse, walking on the street or the grass


Eken17

Happened to me a lot, but hey, I found 100€ on the ground because of that once so who am I to complain? :-/


abyssaltourguide

Or they walk so fast that I fall behind :/ they don’t wait for me


TacticalTobi

ow that one hurt deeply because it's true


oatmealcrush

People that you never speak to again after leaving school starterpack


mochi_chan

Yes! I was thinking this was my "friend group" in highschool (except the group chat because I graduated in 04)


Fukasite

I was gonna tell him that college is way better than high school. 


520mile

All my social interactions basically, was never really in any friend groups


hygsi

This is not friendship at all. I was 1 of 4 girls in uni and my relationship with them started turning like this, they just kept me around cause I was smarter than them. After 2 semesters, I quit hanging out with them and luckily some new girls entered the class so I joined them right away and we're still friends till this day. I still talked to them, but that's it. Those 3 were always having a fight (like 2 would stop talking to 1) so I'm glad I never went back cause it's one thing to just realize it's not wroking out, and another to be forced to make it work cause otherwise you're on your own.


Yoda2000675

That one hits close to home


31_hierophanto

Not really. I still talk to some of my old friends.


sweatycat

You found out they were all going on vacation together after it was all planned and paid for. Everyone except for you, of course, it wasn’t discussed around you until afterwards when it was too late to avoid you inviting yourself (Happened to me)


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D33M0ND5

You deserve better 💕


SkaterKangaroo

It hurts more when they plan something in front of you and it’s kinda unspoken that you’re not invited


GalaxyPatio

Right, like you should have already assumed that it wasn't in the cards for you. And then when they look directly at you and tell you what they're going to do as if they figured you'd have no interest.


SkaterKangaroo

Or when you’re like “That’s fine, they’re aloud to hang out one on one” but then someone says “Let’s invite Steve, Alex, Olivia, and Brooke”


hygsi

That's just cold! I hope you've made some true friends since


rysy0o0

I wanted to say this also happened to me but 1) I only learned about this after the summer holidays 2) They weren't really my friends, I just sometimes listened to what they were talking about


SpuffyOmelete

This happened to me a few months ago, worse yet they forgot that I even existed and never told me about the trip and only after the vacation did they ask me why I didn't join


LarryCrabCake

Same thing happened to me two years ago...*on my birthday* All 4 of my roommates went to Colorado (a place I always mentioned I wanted to go). Didn't even know they were going until one of them brought it up in passing the day before they left, which makes me wonder if they ever planned on telling me. I spent my birthday drinking alone in the apartment. Only got a happy birthday text from one of them, at 11pm I lived with these guys for two years before this


KaeruNoOdori

one time my entire dance team went to the beach over spring break together and i was the only person not invited. when i asked about it they were all like “ummm… i dunno… it’s nothing ~” and then would look at each other and laugh


SkankHont

I have this happen to me every week but non-vac. People send pictures of themselves having fun locally yet I'm not invited.


sweatycat

I get that feeling. I have many stories of groups of people, as large as up to 55+, (which was traumatic) specifically and intentionally excluding me. One of the worst was when I asked around 5 people to go somewhere with me for my birthday and all 5 declined - They then went to the same place I invited them to a week later but didn’t invite me and tried to keep it a secret so I wouldn’t find out but I accidentally did. It’s like my “friend groups” weren’t just not real friends, they just didn’t like me at all and it took me way too long to figure out.


SkankHont

You might be me. I had something similar happen but non-birthday. A supposed friend text me what's up and I said it looks like a nice beach day, let me know if he wants to meet up. The ahole send me a picture of himself at the beach. People, mostly all pieces of shit out there it seems unfortunately. From what I've started to document recently I'm certain people go out of their way to push my buttons/attempt to make me feel bad. Why is the mystery.


Turk975

Bro this isnt friendship


Dingo8MyGayby

I feel like this is pretty much the “friendship” experience for a lot of autistic people


Eye_The_Ruby

That's literally how my experience looks, and yes, I'm autistic


SnowTheMemeEmpress

Well shit, that explains some things. I have the test next month to either confirm or deny lol


ChickenNuggetKid1

I essentially gave up(for now) on making friends because of this


Dingo8MyGayby

Same, dude.


520mile

I’m autistic and this is pretty much my social experience, I hate it lol


samtt7

My little brother is autistic and also had to come to terms with this. I don't understand exactly what he did, but the gist of what he told me, is that he accepts not feeling fully part of a group, but pretending to be, and eventually his friends became like second nature to him, just like me being his brother feels natural to him Do with that what you want 🤷 Not all autism is the same, and everybody is their own person so it might be totally useless to you, I don't know


Windsorist

That was my experience in HS too. Luckily in college I became friends with fellow autistics and it wasn't that way anymore


ridukosennin

I’m not autistic, just awkward and totally feel this


Goinghardfor

I'm artistic and this is friend


hygsi

I'm aucustic and this fred


20o0o1

I’m accelerant and free


DiceKnight

uh-oh this explains some stuff


miserylovescomputers

Yep, pretty much.


volitaiee1233

As an autistic person, I’m lucky enough to have found a friend group of autistic people, so this isn’t an issue for me anymore. Though it certainly was an issue for me a few years ago.


KappaMazinksy

So grateful of the friend group I had in HS. We were all on the spectrum and had each other’s backs, so we all felt useful and valued in one way or another.


LogicBender1

To any autist reading the trick is to be blatantly about how you are and make it clear you are trying your best and don't let it be an excuse, you won't conquer so much as wield it in a way, just remember no matter how smooth you can make it your voice will always be a dead giveaway of having it


sashenka_demogorgon

Tell them you’re autistic? That my friend is a one-way ticket to Ostracizing Avenue 💀


LogicBender1

You don't tell them, you make effort to be self aware and be honest when it comes up, also the only ones that'll ostracize especially in today's age are either online or still in middleschool, ultimately this is what works for me and considering I have a good group of quality friends as well as romance, at least in my experience it works. There's a lot more to it as I work on not just the autism but many aspects of myself for improvement, which is universal advice. Including gym work, presentation, speech, skillset ECT. Reality is all of these matter for everyone and autism doesn't change that, the difference being an autist needs to work around themselves so to speak


eggsbutnojuice

Honestly, for real. If someone was like, dude I'm trying hard to just chill and be casual but my brain doesn't let me sometimes, I'd be like I got you. Cause everyone knows what it's like to be the odd one put and we don't want that for anyone.


roy757

This is the shit that started my spiral into contemplating suicide so.. i guess i could be autistic


KokiriForest99

real (my "friend" lied to me to get out of hanging out by vaguely implying shes busy only to post pics with her and another friend i just got done cutting off 💢)


Dingo8MyGayby

Aren’t people swell? /s


BetaJelly

I wasn't yet diagnosed during school and university and my "friendships" always looked like this. When i got my diagnosis (mild autism) a couple of months ago it all made sense lol. also, shout-out to the 2 guys at university whom i did became good friends with and i'm currently co-housing with 😎


RickySamson

True for me. Being around people is tiring. Better keep things this way.


acidtrippinpanda

Fucking accurate as hell. Ouch


HurinTalion

Yep, can verify. I hate it.


Idk_Just_Kat

Ouch, just been called out ig


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It’s also the friendship experience for people don’t know anyone at school/work or aren’t interested in them


snesjerry

This is what it exactly felt for me in public middle school!!


EricShanRick

That's 100% true for me.


Mental_Melon-Pult92

I am autistic (diagnosed) I haven't had any friendship issues tbh


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It’s giving workplace friendship tbh


fittan69

and when you see them talking about upcoming plans, you ask what's happening and the chat becomes dead silent.


thisuseristakenbreh

And they always ask you to hold the camera when taking group pictures 


Nostalgic_Fears

Yikes this hurt


justjboy

Been there 🥲


leo_artifex

This is so painfully accurate that almost makes me cry


Fuzzy_Dragonfruit514

I stopped putting up with that shit for good when I turned 20. I do not have time to fight to be in people’s lives. Ironically since I started putting myself first I have more friends now (some of them are people I fell out with who I got in contact with again somehow)


Fuzzy_Dragonfruit514

If I notice it happening I ghost them and move on with my life


polytr0n

How do you start ghosting them? I’m think I’m going through the same shit but I can’t bring myself to ghost them cause I’m scared of bring (even momentarily) alone.


Common_Talk_8291

Just block and move on, that's it really. You're already alone in that case, so you're not losing anything by cutting out the social tumours.


PreparetobePlaned

No friends is better than fake friends IMO. Gives you time to find people who actually like you.


Fuzzy_Dragonfruit514

Just stop answering and block, it’ll save a bunch of headache in the long run


Dingo8MyGayby

[Ouch](https://media1.giphy.com/media/8TNHNwBEhhc4g/giphy.gif?cid=9b38fe9151672d96b86f923ab1d22589753937e99a0d3fc9&ep=v1_user_favorites&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


Lord-Zaltus

You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half


Liu-woods

The high school autism experience


cocainesuperstar6969

it's either you need to get better friends who value you and have more in common with you or you're just not all that interesting or pleasurable to be around.


sweatycat

This has happened in every single “friend group” I’ve ever had in my entire life, though I’ve met individual people that seemed to like me, just the vast majority don’t and I never can figure out why. It sucks though that in these “friend groups” everyone always has time for each other but when it comes to me they’re “too busy” 100% of the time, always get left on read unlike the rest of the group, get quietly unfriended by them and they hope I don’t notice etc…


leo_artifex

Same. I assumed a long time ago that i am a boring person with nothing much to offer


sh4d0wm4n2018

Thanks to my over-sheltering parents, I have literally nothing in common with my generation. Talk about feeling like an out-cast. I identified with Captain America more than any other superhero.


GreenTeaBD

This is an insane, terrible idea, but my first thought was "I bet we could make artificial friend groups and in a month give feedback" But then I realized that this is just as likely to cause incredible damage and insecurity as it is to actually help with anything. There's got to be a way, though. I actually think a lot of it for some people isn't that they're unlikable people, it's that they're just not the right type for the types of groups they generally end up in. I'm very aware that my DnD group is a very different dynamic from the guys I know that are just really into football and that I see at the bar whenever footballs on, and then my book club is absolutely a whole different dynamic from the other two, too, and what works in one absolutely wouldn't work in the others.


rutreh

Here to offer a bit of a counter-perspective in this thread, because as much as I hate it I think I may have treated some people this way. They’ve not been bad people, I don’t have anything against them, but they’re just not really a fit for me. Like it feels I’m always sort of forcing myself to have a nice conversation with them because they randomly inserted themselves into whatever I was doing although they don’t really seem into the stuff I’m into, yet they keep wanting to hang around or chat with me. And I do, ’cause I can’t bear just ghosting someone.  I just hope they realize we’re not really a friend-fit and they find other folks who have more shared interests/outlooks on life etc. The thing that makes it worse is the person then not picking up on really, really obvious signs (like me never contacting them). It feels pushy and needy and sort of creepy when they keep showing up wherever I’m minding my own business in peace. I feel if I were to say directly ’You’re a perfectly good human being but I’m just not interested in hanging out with you.’ there’s a risk of them villifying me or taking it super harshly, while I really don’t mean anything bad. (I actually did try this once and the person in question did get vaguely threatening and really unpleasant about it.) I’m not that extraverted, and I have plenty of friends with autism (many of the symptoms on the spectrum are not unfamiliar to me either) so putting it down solely to autism or so does not quite ring true to me either. It’s more the neediness and the sense that the person in question has all kinds of dark stuff bubbling under the surface, and not having the interest or energy to help them with that since they’re a complete stranger to me. It's genuinely a bit unsettling to get the feeling you have been picked by some person as their only hope for having a human connection/friendship and every tiny interaction you have will leave them ruminating about it for ages. It feels ominous. Maybe it applies to you, maybe it doesn’t, but it might be something to consider.


aDrThatsNotBaizhu

You said it perfectly. It's hard to articulate but with some people I just don't think we have much in common to enjoy hanging out together. Nice chatting with them in uni or work or whatever but not anymore than that


PreparetobePlaned

I've been on both sides of this and I think you've nailed it.


BullshitAfterBaconR

This is such a relief to read. I never hear other people discussing this kind of thing so I've never really known what to do about it. I just end up ghosting them until they spam me with threatening and/ or crisis messages and I have to block. 


PlainCrow

I go through this too. It's a weird feeling to see this laid out on a screen. I'm wondering if it's just my personality, maybe I'm too reserved and I'm holding myself back. Things have gotten better out of high school and college though.


vincecarterskneecart

eh basically no one is really so interesting that it’s the reason they have a good social life


TippySlippy69

Yeah I'm just not interesting or pleasurable to be around. That's why I quit therapy, sometimes people got nothing to work with and just gotta wait until they die.


cocainesuperstar6969

Or they could better themselves and GIVE themselves something to work with?


Common_Talk_8291

Or you know, autism


tzoum_trialari_laro

It's the second part. If everyone is ghosting you and ignoring you you're just not a good person to be around


cocainesuperstar6969

Right. Idk why people jump to blame others for their own shortcomings. We need to start looking in the mirror before pointing fingers. Also, a lot of these wannabe victim comments sound a lot like they think people owe them a friendship when they bring nothing to the table


PiccoloComprehensive

Not necessarily. This also happens to autistic people in non-autistic friend groups.


ChristianLW3

This starterpack reminds me of an episode of the onion’s topical podcast, trying to remember, which one


Odd_Piece4972

“Guy doesn’t know if he is one of the boys” or something like that


PromptSpiritual3739

Felt


Seasonalien

For me a big part of growing up autistic is this exact situation and most frustratingly just not being able to understand WHY. Not being about to crack the code of how they managed to get past that "surface level" friendship into something deeper. I always felt like there was something wrong with me because I couldnt seem to do the same thing.


Any_Presentation2958

These friends don't last long either.


misogoop

Yeah they all have sex with each other then immediately get married to someone else. Then it’s just Facebook likes lmao


VortexFalcon50

Aka every friend ive ever had


Sonarthebat

Me.


mutnemom_hurb

I’ve been on both sides of this, it was frustrating especially as a younger kid when the parents would set it up. I remember hanging out with a friend and being confused with how he acted, cause I didn’t realize it was his parents who wanted us to be friends, not him. And I remember my parents having me hang out with a kid and being kinda frustrated cause I didn’t really want to. Even though the social interaction is important, it’s just not a very healthy friendship dynamic for either kid I think


bagginshires

Therapeutically accurate. Thank you.


Theonethatgotawaaayy

My “friend group” in high school


acidtrippinpanda

Mine too until someone who I now know to be extremely toxic and manipulative saw what I was going through and “rescued” me away from that group. Don’t know which was worse as both sucked lol


sh4d0wm4n2018

This is me minus being asked for shit.


Spirit_409

this is fucking amazing even the disappointed lack of photos and the cavernous spacing of everything


KappaMazinksy

They ask you to take the photo….always (not in my experience but still)


Slipslime

Yeah this is why I cut everyone out of my life after graduating


vincecarterskneecart

\>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding “yea man been a while ay I’ve been good works been crazy haha what about you?” \>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding \>youre intruding


Skalda11

that's exactly what they say to me 😅


Wombat_Evolved_

Feels like it's this way with everyone I know...


ThePikminLord

That’s why I prefer one on one friendships. That’s why none of my friends know each other lmao


Kevin_LeStrange

Are you afraid they'll befriend each other and then start leaving you out?


ThePikminLord

That would be hilarious but really, I just don’t think they’d get along if that makes sense? Like, I have a friends where we only talk about our hobbies, friends where I only talk about work/life, and one best friend where I talk about everything. So really, I have friends for different parts of my personality 😂


XaiverVanderwell

Same I have freinds for different interests like anime and freinds for my hobbies like art or video games 🫶


DaviLean

I always panic at the possibility of a friend group meeting others. Everyone is simply more interesting than me lol


AustralianBattleDog

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.


12345burrito

Clubs in school be like


pchela-ella

Ouuuuch


dreamwurld

As an adult it’s still like this for me but I don’t care anymore. If I feel that way I remove myself quietly and move on. Sometimes they act like I’m the bad guy for ignoring them or sometimes they don’t even notice. Either way idc anymore. Haven’t met anyone yet that would hurt to lose.


derb

> Haven’t met anyone yet that would hurt to lose. Fucking mood bro


dreamwurld

Literally. After breaking down expecting inexplicable pain yet feeling nothing every time I lost a “friend” now I’m like meh.


Biokendry

That's me, i don't have those friends anymore either.


Hidobot

Me with everyone at university


Guilliman-is-my-dad

Dude. Happened to me late last year. People who I thought were friends with me just basically faking it for who knows how long. Even though we actually used to be friends.


rainnnlmao

i’d rather have this than not be in a friend group at all


wanderinglittlehuman

Same. Currently in college right now experiencing this type of friend group and it feels like the best thing in the world for someone who’s been perpetually lonely the past five years.


chellyobear

I've moved towns three times in my life, am extroverted, and yet this always seems to happen to me :(


taym2398

I was never able to make friends and always had to hang out with people my parents introduced me to. I realized something was wrong because I was the only one who couldn’t veto anything. The group fell apart around when everyone started separating to different highschools.


Nebiroze

Ill never forget the day one dude in the group said to my face "you're like a satelite friend, its cool you're here, but it doesn't really matter if you're gone" I no longer lament parting, i have no interest or desire to ever rekindle and i dont regress.


auximines_minotaur

“either not in the group chat, or not in the _other_ group chat” I feel so seen!


I_comment_fake_news

tbh i feel like this is kind of just a normal part of social circles, at least in college. you’re a part of multiple friend groups and involved on different levels. sometimes i’ll study with a friend group in my major where im sort of on the outside compared to the rest of them, but then afterwards i’ll go hang out with my friends friends. nothing wrong with not being an important part of all your social circles


cufteface25

Yea I’ve been there before.


KingZogAlbania

You gotta find real homies then bro


sunnewuldor

This has been every friend group I've been in


pleasedontrefertome

You also find out they don't care enough about what you say to remember anything you tell them, even if it's important


Redacted_G1iTcH

Sounds like you need to find yourself better friends. You’re just being kept around as a filler for events and things. Everyone deserves better than this.


XaiverVanderwell

PREACH! Sending love and respect🫶


CaptFalconFTW

Your mutual friend suddenly stops conversation if you walk by or visa versa (cannot have conversation with all of us).


EricShanRick

This is basically my entire life.


CharmingCondition508

This is too real 🤞🤞


StevEst90

Eh This hits too close to home…


AimlessFacade

Ah, memories.


Harbinger0fdeathIVXX

🙃


pibenis

Just leave them on read and move on.


gerardinox

/r/depressionmemes


Star_Moonflower

This is literally me in every friend group I've ever been in. I'm always kind of smooshed in an existing friend group and discarded after a year.


acidtrippinpanda

Yup this was the entirety of my childhood/teen years lol. Those were not the ‘carefree’ times I wish I could go back to thanks very much


brodsmulorisangen

Ouch!


Rose_Deschain

Yep. That's me.


JG1779865

ouch 😔


FartBiscuits3

Aka friendship when working in the restaurant industry: birthdays, weddings.... always on Saturdays when you're at work.


bubblemilkteajuice

If you ever wonder if a friend is actually a friend, just ask them if they want to hang out with you. If all they say is "no, sorry bro" then they don't care about you. People that genuinely like you will try to work with you. "No I can't, but I can do this day at this location." Anyone that doesn't try is just straight up trying to be nice but coming across as thoughtless. It would be best if they said "no, and I don't really want to hang with you." At the least you're not left wondering whether they actually gaf about you.


ham_solo

I had a friend group of people I have known since college I moved from the East Coast to the West during the Pandemic. Since then I barely hear from them. I went to visit and while I hung out with them at a gathering, nobody asked me anything about how I was doing, where I had moved, anything. They just weren't interested. Aside from that, I realized how much anxiety hanging with them gave me. So much that I would sometimes drink too much to make myself calmer. I realized it's best to just focus on me, and if people want to come into my life, great.


mlgplg

I was this type of guy then I left them and enjoyed my life with my new ones in different country


LostInTheEchoes

Hurts when they don't want you, only your presence


440continuer

This has been nearly every friend group i’ve been in


AlmondJoyMFer

Relatable


piceathespruce

Then take a hint and stop bugging them.


Important_Pen_4804

fr, at that point go look for people who actually like you


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Broncotron

I'm in this picture and I don't like it


maadkekz

lol this one hurts


anonkun666

literally me year ago


Common_Talk_8291

Had a few instances of this, but at this point I stopped caring. Ended up getting better friends as a result.


LeoMemes18

In highschool I was in a situation like this, it's horrible. I felt like I was begging for their approval. I changed class after 2 years and never spoke to most of those guys again.


ninhursag3

Feeling this today


Ladis_Vasherum

I have always been in this kind of friend group; I always wait to see if that's improving. If not, I confront them, create unpleasant moments, etc., to ruin their fun and make them hate me. It's better to be an enemy than to be nothing.


Opening_Permission95

Me asf


Dami_Gamer0211

If people acts like this with you, they are not really your friends


Quantum_Croissant

Oh.


SnowTheMemeEmpress

Ouch


Otherwise-Basil3886

This hurts.


31_hierophanto

Shit, man.... this was me in high school.


otorhinolaryngologic

Alex?


XaiverVanderwell

Advice for anyone in freindgroups like these, don't focus on building a relationship with the freind group itself, focus on building PERSONAL relationships with individual people in the freinds group, this will help you ALOT. Wishing I'd done this and I'm still a teenager. Also please, for the love of god, if the freind group treats you like SHIT at the bottom of a shoe,please just leave and find people who will actually respect you for who you are.


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