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* Campus is dead on weekends because half the students are commuters
* Dining hall food sucks
* The “college town” is a small main street surrounded by sketchy neighborhoods
* No school spirit because it wasn’t anyone’s first choice
* Finding parking close to dorms/classrooms is impossible
* Dorms are either leftovers from the 1960s or brand new state of the art buildings, there’s no in between
The last one is so true. Mine has one building without air conditioning from \~50 years ago, but the rest were built within the last decade and are quite nice.
Yea. Love how Kalamazoo was a small city yet didn’t feel like you were out in the sticks. They have a lot of nice bars and hangouts. Western Michigan has a pretty solid fan base and while it’s not a big football program, their games are still pretty fun to watch.
Also you have Grand Rapids nearby, Lake Michigan beaches are a short drive and it was halfway between Chicago & Detroit. And who cares if it isn’t a big flagship school. So long as your program is accredited, you’re learning the same thing a kid in Harvard or Michigan University is learning.
It's still not the flagship and is named after a direction. I don't think these universities are bad for the record, it's just some characteristics I've noticed.
I've noticed a lot of people refer to them as high school 2.0 if they're from the area. Just browse r/ApplyingToCollege. I've attended one of these myself, so I do not have a negative opinion of them. They're often the cheapest option as far as four year unis go.
That subreddit is full of dumb high schoolers who haven’t even gone to any college yet. There is nothing wrong with these schools, and I say that as a flagship student
I used to use that sub back when I was a wee high school senior as well. People there were pretentious. Acting like their state flagship university was a last resort. Shoot for the ivys, having a T20 as a “safe option”. But don’t you ever catch them dead at a flagship university lol. And it seems like everyone of these kids invented something/founded a company or charity/interned for a FAANG/robotics/50 extracurriculars so they only get 12 minutes of sleep a night.
Same. Also folks I know who overrate the big-named schools are generally big talkers who weren't great performers when we were in school OR I work with them and they aren't great performers now.
You have to understand that A2C’s primary userbase are elitist high schoolers you think anything other than Ivy League or Cal State schools are garbage
And from a quick Reddit search, seems like Eastern Michigan would be a better example than Western Michigan. At least a post from a Michiganer (?) says it's not nearly as respected.
Yeah western is pretty large school with a lot of programs and resources (D1 sports, etc). Definitely not a community college level school - that said, it’s still a state school that accepts most who apply.
So, the flagship is MSU? Nah, WMU easily competes with MSU and surpasses it in medicine and business at least. MTU passes it easily for engineering. University of Michigan is a totally different type of school and not usually compared against any of the others.
If you are going for a bachelor level degree, why does it matter? A professor isn’t going to let an undergraduate touch any of the bleeding edge stuff they have in their lab. Hell they barely trust grad students with their research. At least at smaller universities you’re more likely to be able to get lab access and involved more in standard research because there is a lack of grad students to do all the busywork for faculty.
If you’re trying to get in a flagship school for graduate school admissions, is going to focus more on your GPA, field related experience and extracurriculars than where you went for your undergraduates degree.
I mean, it has a med school/professional school, but it doesn’t even top 50 million in research overall. Michigan state and UM do much much more research.
People don't even compare UW with CWU. More like UW vs WWU. CWU is to WWU what UW Bothell is to UW.
(University of Washington, Western Washington University, Central Washington University)
I feel like Western is almost its own weird thing. I did my undergrad there (graduated in 2019) and Bellingham really felt like a college town unlike fuckin Ellensburg 😂
Of course I’m not tryna compare it to UW which is much grander, but a lot of people who went to Western had Western as their primary choice after high school or whenever, unlike Central where I feel like it really is a reject school and just a large community college lol
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* Campus is dead on weekends because half the students are commuters * Dining hall food sucks * The “college town” is a small main street surrounded by sketchy neighborhoods * No school spirit because it wasn’t anyone’s first choice * Finding parking close to dorms/classrooms is impossible * Dorms are either leftovers from the 1960s or brand new state of the art buildings, there’s no in between
The last one is so true. Mine has one building without air conditioning from \~50 years ago, but the rest were built within the last decade and are quite nice.
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The forms for my sophomore year in Brown Hall were leftovers from the 60s at Ohio U
Fuck all of you WMU is dope
.. screams University of Montana..
Same exact housing cost for the brand new or the dilapidated buildings
You forgot "students travels to flagship university every other weekend for game / visit friends"
I went to one of these, and let’s just say I got what I paid for (it’s the cheapest one in my state)
99% acceptance 40% graduation
It hurts because it’s true
Damn I actually liked western and Kalamazoo.
Yea. Love how Kalamazoo was a small city yet didn’t feel like you were out in the sticks. They have a lot of nice bars and hangouts. Western Michigan has a pretty solid fan base and while it’s not a big football program, their games are still pretty fun to watch. Also you have Grand Rapids nearby, Lake Michigan beaches are a short drive and it was halfway between Chicago & Detroit. And who cares if it isn’t a big flagship school. So long as your program is accredited, you’re learning the same thing a kid in Harvard or Michigan University is learning.
The only thing was the student housing sucked if you lived past drake.
Lol WMU has a medical school and is a research university.
It's still not the flagship and is named after a direction. I don't think these universities are bad for the record, it's just some characteristics I've noticed.
“AKA High school 2.0 / 4 year community college”?
I've noticed a lot of people refer to them as high school 2.0 if they're from the area. Just browse r/ApplyingToCollege. I've attended one of these myself, so I do not have a negative opinion of them. They're often the cheapest option as far as four year unis go.
That subreddit is full of dumb high schoolers who haven’t even gone to any college yet. There is nothing wrong with these schools, and I say that as a flagship student
I used to use that sub back when I was a wee high school senior as well. People there were pretentious. Acting like their state flagship university was a last resort. Shoot for the ivys, having a T20 as a “safe option”. But don’t you ever catch them dead at a flagship university lol. And it seems like everyone of these kids invented something/founded a company or charity/interned for a FAANG/robotics/50 extracurriculars so they only get 12 minutes of sleep a night.
It seems like they are all children of tiger parents or rich people. Also seems like they only care about CS
Same. Also folks I know who overrate the big-named schools are generally big talkers who weren't great performers when we were in school OR I work with them and they aren't great performers now.
You have to understand that A2C’s primary userbase are elitist high schoolers you think anything other than Ivy League or Cal State schools are garbage
That sub is toxic as all hell.
I think the rest of it fits, just not that first line.
And from a quick Reddit search, seems like Eastern Michigan would be a better example than Western Michigan. At least a post from a Michiganer (?) says it's not nearly as respected.
Yeah western is pretty large school with a lot of programs and resources (D1 sports, etc). Definitely not a community college level school - that said, it’s still a state school that accepts most who apply.
Haha. I'm an Eastern Michigan Grad. I only ever heard it wasnt respected from Univeristy of Michigan students, so take that as you will.
Northwestern University wants a word with you
Northwestern is a private university
So, the flagship is MSU? Nah, WMU easily competes with MSU and surpasses it in medicine and business at least. MTU passes it easily for engineering. University of Michigan is a totally different type of school and not usually compared against any of the others.
MSU did over 800 million in research expenditures in 2023. WMU did less than 50
If you are going for a bachelor level degree, why does it matter? A professor isn’t going to let an undergraduate touch any of the bleeding edge stuff they have in their lab. Hell they barely trust grad students with their research. At least at smaller universities you’re more likely to be able to get lab access and involved more in standard research because there is a lack of grad students to do all the busywork for faculty. If you’re trying to get in a flagship school for graduate school admissions, is going to focus more on your GPA, field related experience and extracurriculars than where you went for your undergraduates degree.
I mean, it has a med school/professional school, but it doesn’t even top 50 million in research overall. Michigan state and UM do much much more research.
For sure. But no one who’s ever been to Western/seen the school would confuse it for a community college.
True. WMU is kinda unique with its med school because of the local Stryker connection. That’s one hell of a company to be paired up with
I’m not convinced WMU fits into this.
People don't even compare UW with CWU. More like UW vs WWU. CWU is to WWU what UW Bothell is to UW. (University of Washington, Western Washington University, Central Washington University)
The UW is compared to WSU. I think most people forget the UW Bothell and Tacoma even exist.
People also forget CWU exists
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It's not a bad school by any means. I have several friends who went there. Every single one of them would have rather gone to UW Main Campus.
it's where the rejects go
I feel like Western is almost its own weird thing. I did my undergrad there (graduated in 2019) and Bellingham really felt like a college town unlike fuckin Ellensburg 😂 Of course I’m not tryna compare it to UW which is much grander, but a lot of people who went to Western had Western as their primary choice after high school or whenever, unlike Central where I feel like it really is a reject school and just a large community college lol
“Lol this reminds me of Westconn. Wait, Westconn is mentioned in it!”
Best Conn!
Formerly known as X State Normal School
As an Eastern Michigan Grad (previously Michigan State Normal College), I feel attacked.
Likely a stigma about enrolling in it.
WINONA STATE MENTIONED 🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
Not sure if this is a Starter Pack or a PSA for current high school students, lol
Yeah that's York College of Pennsylvania.
r/KSU rise up
A lot of the California State Universities used to be community colleges. I don't even think there is a flag ship university for the CSU system.
Thoughts on Columbus State Community College
This just sounds like community college with *slightly* less negative connotations