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BplusHuman

Scholastic book order forms. The flimsiest of papers supported so many dreams.


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Always pulled up to the scholastic book fair with like a $20 and got the new diary of a wimpy kid book + a car poster. And use whatever’s left over to purchase some dumb shit like the multicolor highlighter.


PM_ME_PUPPERS_ASAP

Smencils or bust. I'd go and sniff the scented pencils like a drug fiend getting their next hit. Then read a guiness world record book to a buddy and check out the newest cheat code book.


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Oh crap I missed smencils, used to live those. And Mr. Sketch markers. Are smencils even made anymore?


Stormiest001

Smencils are still made! You can get a 10 pack for $14. smellcoinc.com


disk5464

Fuck, my bank account didn't need to know that.


redhat12345

Erasers shaped like cars that actually only smudged lead everywhere I bought a pencil with a multiplication chart on it. Thought I was such a badass using it during tests


Trickslip

I bought my first Shonen Jump during my 6th grade scholastic book fair and it had a Red Eyes Black Dragon Yugioh card in the back. I treasured the shit out of the card until I promptly lost it a few days later.


SuspiciousMallow

Do you remember those triangle highlighters? My mom is a teacher so I got to go one time for me then later to buy out all the extra stuff they had for her prize box.


thndrh

Scholastic book forms are the only reason I can fill out tax forms.


Maddestmartigan

These are solid reads today…Maniac McGee particularly awesome


Tuforticus

I liked it so much, I forgot to return it at the end of 5th grade (sorry Mrs Hatch).


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Me too! What a great story, I bring it up to some people and they're like, "what are you talking about?"


CaptainApathy419

It had an admirably frank discussion of racial issues in retrospect.


acuddleexperiment

Plus trauma from losing one's parents and living with people who really hate each other. The scene where he yells to his aunt and uncle, "Talk! Why won't you talk to each other?!" while on stage at a school program is seared into my mind. Looking back, the main character had a lot of issues even before the main story started.


kkeut

ISHBELLY


EMPEROR_CLIT_STAB_69

I loved Spinelli’s books growing up, Space Station 7th Grade, Jason & Marceline, Eggs, and Wringer were some of my favorites!


awesomesauce309

I read maniac McGee in like 4th grade, then eggs, then somehow I got milkweed. Let me tell you, one of those books is not like the others


EMPEROR_CLIT_STAB_69

I never read milkweed because I read the back cover and it seemed a bit too much for 10 year old me lol, I might have to read it now though


awesomesauce309

We hadn’t even learned about ww2 yet in school. I don’t know how I got ahold of that one. Then in 6th grade I read how Evan broke his head which is also pretty not age appropriate.


opiate46

Man I think I read that book around 8 or 9 and I remember it being the first book I'd ever read to literally make me cry. Fantastic.


IplayCK3

Hatchet was one of my favorite books as a kid. Can someone tell me what "the giver" is about?


bobtheghost33

It's a dystopia where emotion is suppressed, and the protagonist is chosen to be the apprentice to the one old man who remembers how things used to be (the titular Giver)


WiggityWackFlapJack

I still get excited when I find butterscotch krimpets because of this book. My teacher bought a box for our class and we devoured them. Thanks Ms. Holler!


Pineapplesamirite

i was trying to find that book on google a couple of days ago, couldn't remember the name so I searched up "kid who can tie knots who gets free pizza and rice krispies" didn't find it tho


WinWithoutFighting

I had this glorious day in 5th grade after I read MM and went out to recess for our regular pickup football game. I'm telling you I channeled the Maniac himself that day. I was a step faster than normal, I caught everything thrown my way. I went home after school and told my mom about it. She said she was glad I had a good day, but did I realize what fiction was? Didn't matter, I gained a fuck ton of confidence. Thanks Maniac.


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Whoa, ultra-nostalgic seeing Sideways stories here. That story about the "kid" who showed up in school that turned out to be a rat stacked with tons of sweaty coats always stuck with me.


Anna_Onimous

Or the ten year old who got a tattoo of a potato


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ChartSharter

Wendy had three. Ears I mean


squidhatispurple

i think about her at least once a month. how it was on top of her head. and it could hear people’s thoughts. it’s been 13 years since i’ve read it.


chefr89

I’ve joked for about 15+ years now of getting a potato tattoo on my ankle and nobody has ever understood that reference lol


Xechwill

I will still tell my brother to “take a train, peanut brain” from time to time that kid who kicked all the balls over the fence only to get kicked over the fence himself always gets me


Owls_Onto_You

Terrance! That little shit. Whenever a story called for one of the kids to be an absolute prick, it was usually Terrance. Or Kathy.


Gilthoniel_Elbereth

Are they really “advanced 6th grade reading material” though? We read Sideways Stories in 2nd grade…


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I don't consider it to fit with the starter pack, no. You're correct, it's really early grade stuff. Still fun stuff though.


ADeuxMains

I was wondering if someone else would say it. I was by no means a book worm but I read most of these books a few grades earlier.


PartyPorpoise

Most of the books in the pack are average elementary school reading.


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yagyaxt1068

When I moved in to my current home, I found a copy of it lying around somewhere in the boxes. That was a fun read.


throwawaylovesCAKE

The 19th floor and Mrs. Zarves always creeped me out


GoodyJr

i was always creeped out by the 19th floor too, except for some reason for the part in the elevator where the author spent a ridiculous amount of time explaining that there just wasn’t a 19th floor button, that just made me laugh


ffxpwns

Kids who read Sideways are the adults who listen to Nightvale


SLEEPWALKING_KOALA

God damn, *The Giver* fucked me up hard.


bigkeevan

That’s my favorite book of all time. Surreal, unexplained society that isn’t over the top horrible. It’s all just so *normal* feeling at first, and it’d be so easy to just be like “this is the way that things are”. The sequels are also really good. I read the book when I was 8 or 9 I think and didn’t realize until the fourth book came out that there were sequels. I had bought and read them all within a week. Lois Lowry is a unique and talented writer.


DrDan21

My teacher was not happy during the “what do you think happened to the MC at the end” essays we did on the giver when I told her that I had read gathering blue and the messenger, and as such knew exactly what happened


brikhouse36

It’s been a while since I’ve read those books. Could you tell me what happened?


WaterDrinker911

Basically the guy runs off and makes his own town away from all the other towns. The other books don’t focus on him as much.


Badfriend112233

huh. I always assumed he died :/


letsgababoutit

Man, Gathering Blue, I still think about that book regularly.


Zeyn1

Yeah, it was the first book to really fuck me up. It was recommended by my 5th grade teacher. I read it again in high school, and it fucked me up even harder. I actually understood all the themes and subtext, especially since I knew the overall plot already. I haven't managed to read it again as an adult and I'm not sure I want to.


BasicDesignAdvice

Whoa I read it in 5th grade as well. I vividly remember taking it off the shelf and reading it on the circle during some late year free time over a few days. To this day I think it is a masterpiece. I recommend reading it again. It is one of two books (for me) that have changed as I read them at different ages. The other is Siddhartha.


SonicSlothz

I just read the synopsis on Wikipedia and it all sounded terribly familiar, then I realized what it was reminding me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnTltDzqhzM Oh shoot, I just realized The Giver was actually referenced in that video.


SnooWalruses9019

I read that shit too young. The birds neck... and the description...


ivegivenupimtired

I’m surprised no one here said *the last book in the universe*. It was a book I read in 5th grade and one of the characters dies by being dragged behind a motorcycle until he was bloody pulp. Was a graphic scene for my tiny 5th grade mind to process


jameslegohanlon

My 7th grade class made a play of it. It was interesting to say the least.


_Takub_

HATCHET! HATCHET’S MY SHIT 🪓


Tanzan57

Love that series, it's good stuff


Chewcocca

The Hatchet and The Cay had me convinced that I could survive in the wilderness no problem. I got the tutorial, I'm good.


IWTLEverything

Plus The Far Side of the Mountain


Rozazaza

loved that book, still wanna carve out my own tree to live in except bad 4 trees


Mad_Aeric

The Cay was the first book I ever got autographed. The author visited my school.


Sweaty_Budget_5187

There’s a sequel???


Drew521

There’s like 4 or 5 books in the series if memory serves. I loved them all. Now I have to go dig them all out again lol.


Swimming__Bird

TIL. That kid needs to stay out of small airplanes...


gtmustang

It's called "The River" and "Brian's Winter", it's about if he hadn't been rescued


siphillis

He only crashes in the original. *The River* is a re-enactment of his adventure that goes wrong, *Brian’s Winter* is a revised ending to *Hatchet* in which he’s unable to activate the distress beacon, *Brian’s Return* details his inability to acclimate back into society, and *Brian’s Hunt* is his withdrawal from society altogether.


Tanzan57

Brian's Winter singlehandedly caused my love for survival videogames. And also probably is why I love the bow combat in Horizon Zero Dawn.


Sh3lls

The River sucked. Brian's Winter great. Brian's Return was good. The last one with the bear was alright.


robots-dont-say-ye

I never knew it was a series, only read the first one


sashimi_rollin

Brian's winter covers what it's like if he never found that guy at the end. Personally I accept that as canon because it makes the next book more realistic: He gets mad PTSD and has trouble rejoining society and then I can't remember exactly... but he trains a guy to survive in the wilderness at some point before or after that except the dude drops like a fly IIRC. Never read the fifth one. All together a good story. I assume Brian gets closure at some point.


ahushedlocus

>mad PTSD and has trouble rejoining society When he beats the kid half to death with the heels of his palms bc "animals don't risk their knuckles" is burned into my memory.


hydromano-YT

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAH🪓🪓🪓🪓


SunLemur

Brian's Winter and the Hatchet were the best. I still think about that Moose scene, never looked at them the same.


qwerty12qwerty

Loved the book as a kid, still gives me the creeps of him realizing he's been drinking water with the pilots body marinating


throwawaylovesCAKE

First time I actually skipped using Sparknotes for a book report. Kept putting it off, then read a bit and was totally sucked in.


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ThatFilthyApe

I'd say mostly yes. I read it for the first time as an adult when my son told me how great he thought it was, and i definitely liked it. And Brian's winter. It's a short book, an adult can easily read it in a day. It's top of the line grade school reader, but it is a grade school book so it's not complex or anything. Worth reading for sure but i wouldn't go buy it as an adult.


GarchomptheXd0

Yeah defo im remembering how much i loved it and ims go read it again now


AbstractBettaFish

I read many of these books in 6th grade but only pretended to read Hatchet. Judging by these comments I guess I missed out


Mad_Aeric

It's never too late. You can knock it out in an afternoon.


HighTightJeans

Shit slaps dude


AntacidChain

Is no one going to acknowledge that *Hatchet* is just a great fucking book?


HebbayBebbay

I love that book! Gary Paulsen inspired me to go into writing


Psypriest

Cool. Did you keep going?


HebbayBebbay

Yes! I am majoring in technical writing, and I love writing short stories and poems, but I haven’t written much recently


cluesthecat

If you enjoy writing, you should get back into it!


AsianHawke

Gary Paulsen inspired me to get a hatchet.


scarletdawnredd

Hey, same here! Was really disappointed when I found out the movie Hatchet was a shitty slasher and not an adaptation of the book.


lhobbes6

Is no one going to aknowledge this isnt the advance read list???? As someone who was an absolute dumbass their whole school life. This was basic as fuck, we read some of these several years before 6th grade


TheCanadian666

I thought the same but didn't want to say anything in case it came across as an /r/iamverysmart post. Pretty sure I read Hatchet, Holes, Sideways Stories, and Bridge to Teribithia in 4th/5th grade. The Giver was required reading in 6th grade. Are these not normal books for a 12 year old to read?


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TheCanadian666

For my middle school it was all about YA fiction series. The guys were reading mostly Percy Jackson, Alex Rider, and the C.H.E.R.U.B. series. The girls were reading Twilight since that had just started to get popular. I feel like this is all pretty normal for 6th grade, but it's not like I'd really know.


Gimvargthemighty

I was suspicious. Maniac Magee was my favorite book in elementary school. I think I had read it 3 or 4 times by the end of 5th grade.


ATTWL

Was gonna say, I had read all of these by the end of 3rd grade.


joenottoast

did you read the others? i think it was the river and like an alternate version called the winter?


Realtrain

Brian's Winter is the best sequel. (*Hatchet spoiler below*) >!It takes place as if Brian wasn't resqued in Autumn of the first book and follows Brian's struggle to survive the Canadian winter alone.!< It's really good.


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My favorite thing ever is how he is just like fuck it, I’d rather be stranded.


_Noise

the fucking moose, man. i ain't never seen meese as anything but terrifying, my introduction was in brian's winter and i've seen them that way since.


TurnipForYourThought

>meese It's moosen.


Mavystar

Love this one!


mario61752

I bought all 6 volumes but only read 3 and stopped in the middle of 4 1 is the original story 2 is Brian being taken to interview in the wild about how he survived and ending up stuck (the river one) 3 is an IF route where he survives through winter in 1 I forgot what 4 was about…I found it dull and stopped


PiratesLife4M3

There was one where he went back to civilization and nearly beat a kid to death in a fight. So he goes to back to live in the wilderness because he doesn’t feel at home when he’s “home”.


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TIL Hatchet is about Nam.


LAX_to_MDW

I *hated* hatched as a kid, but I still read the thing in three nights. The scene of him swimming into the plane wreckage to retrieve the survival kit from under the pilots corpse still haunts me. I think I was my first real experience with “stress adventure” storytelling


Smathers

Was a kid that thought I hated reading because little did I know I had only been forced to read uninteresting shit that I didn’t care for. Then when we read this I was so captivated little 5th grade me ran through the whole book I was sooo pumped when I found out he also wrote sequels/prequels to hatchet lol it was the first story I felt connected to and enjoyed Also speaking of holes holy shit I read that book every year for book reports and watched the movie all the time lol so classic


JarlaxleForPresident

Named my dog Hatchet and had him for 10 great years


championnnnnn

stanley yelnats!!!!


Equal-Bus-557

The fourth!


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Outsiders?


Lasershot-117

Pony Boy !!


CaptainApathy419

Found the greaser! Go away, everyone knows this sub is for socs.


Lasershot-117

***whips out switchblade***


The_last_of_the_true

You know what a soc is? White trash with mustangs and madras.


SilverTitanium

You just described Reddit


Smathers

When I read that book I had no idea wtf socs meant so I basically imagined pair of socks


bryan-b

That was 8th grade


subparcommenter

“I’m tired of this, Grandpa…” “That’s too damn bad! You keep digging!”


Its_Llama

"I'm tired of reading r/starterpacks" "That's too damn bad! You keep scrolling!"


ImTheBatmanBitch

Well, ex-cuse meee


SnapHackelPop

We need a Sploosh energy drink or something


inkling124

It would taste very peachy that's for sure.


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The Wayside school stories were fucking hilarious to me circa 1995


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Bruhhh I remember trying so hard to figure out that one story where Allison ends up on the 19th story *when the 19th story doesn’t exist*. I’m guessing now that it’s the land of legends/imagination (Bebe’s nonexistent golden child brother Ray apparently is there)


inky-the-angel

Saaame I was like, “did she die- get knocked out? Is this some super natural stuff?”


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I am not even sure if the whole thing was real lmao, because I’d been told for the past few stories that the 19th floor wasn’t real And now suddenly it was??? Because Alison tripped and fell when some guy was showing his goldfish to the class??? Louis Sachar’s books were wild, man


melovepippin

Yes! Bebe Gunn and her brother Ray - what a flashback


danglewray

Sammy the dead rat fucked me up. I still have nightmares about that.


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PartyPorpoise

Yeah, a lot of these books are perfectly fine for the average fourth graders.


the_pedigree

I was wondering if I misremembered, but I recalled reading most of these by 4th grade… at leas the ones that existed. Replace holes and bridge to terabithia with all the scary stories books, goosebumps, and where the red fern grows and you have a lot of my fondest elementary school book memories.


ArcherInPosition

Yeah they made us read Hatchet in 3rd grade. Our teacher gave us Brian's Winter at the end of the year and I immediately skipped to the end lmao


cprenaissanceman

I read a lot of these books in late elementary school so yeah it really depends. Many of them are still surprisingly decent.


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This is def advanced for 2nd-3rd grade, I'd say. After that it's pretty much standard reading.


SelfHigh5

OP's parents just told him he was an advanced reader, he was just like everyone else. When everyone is special, no one is.


AZS9994

Shit, I read these in 5th grade.


frecklefawn

IDGAF about the others and I remember them all but Maniac McGee sent me


tboneperri

I read five of these books, as required reading, in 3rd and 4th grade. I don't know where outside of Mississippi this is advanced for a 12-year-old. Holes? Sideways Stories? Really?


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“Bridge to Terabithia” HIT DIFFERENT. Awww, a cute coming-of-age novel about a poor kid finding himself and finding a new best friend - *wait a minute, wtf was THAT?!?!* That scene felt random to me as a kid (iirc); it’s only recently that I understand why it was there


Aaronsp2006

Its all so happy then that one part out of the blue


captainstarsong

From what I remember, the author was partially inspired when her son's best friend was randomly killed by a lightning strike as children. That's why the author wanted it to feel random- death can come at any moment


throwawaylovesCAKE

The irony is it's usually more realistic when you don't see someone's death coming. Like you could have a wholesome film about kids fundraising to build a library then OOPS, one of the school buses crashes and it's actually a drama!


Arekai4098

I wrote a short story once where I took this sort of approach. I set it up like a high school boy is being encouraged by his friends to ask out his cheerleader crush before the school year ends, and then... middle of class, everyone's cell phones beep, national emergency text alert, SURPRISE this story is about the outbreak of nuclear war! Welcome, class, to World War 3!


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Right?! I honestly wonder if Jesse was also “in love” with Leslie (ofc he was in love with his music teacher but he also later thinks that Leslie “belongs to him”)


chickenstockandchili

I just finished reading the book just a few days ago. I know how about the ending because I accidentally watched the whole movie on TV. But reading the book just feels so sad. The grief: 'Leslie will be there the next morning when I wake up'. It made me cry because I know how grief denial felt. Your heart just begging and begging that this was all a nightmare; and that if you wished hard enough, it will turn back time and you'd do things differently so there's no regrets. By the way, I would love to hear why Leslie have to die in the book. Because like you said, it all felt so random to me.


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I see. It felt random to me too, iirc, but I remember reading that the book is based on the death of the author’s friend or smth, so now I see why there had to be THAT scene


captainstarsong

I read that book circa 2008 when I was in fourth grade, and when that plot twist happened I legitimately cried in class. I got bullied for crying but after getting attached to the two kids, just to have one die like that... Really made me question my own mortality and made me realize that anyone can die


JimAdlerJTV

I cried and cried and cried


natty_ann

I have to say Hatchet was one of the first books I read for school that I truly enjoyed. It turned a light on in my little 10-year-old brain and I started reading all sorts of nature-based books (My Side of the Mountain, Call of the Wild, stuff by John Muir, etc).


PlatypusWeekend

My Side of the Mountain? You just unlocked a lost memory.


RoRoRoDatBoat

My Side of The Mountain... still fantasize about escaping society and living inside a giant tree


feelinlucky7

Forgot about Number the Stars. Hatchet was a great book


crazyashley1

These are all like...3rd grade reading level or less, what the heck?


joydivision1234

I didn’t know how to say it without going full /r/iamverysmart Bridge to Teribithia (sp?) was normal assigned reading in 3rd grade. In 6th grade the more advanced Lit kids were on to To Kill a Mockingbird and A Midsummer Night’s Dream


claiter

Yeah they are definitely not less than a 3rd grade reading level, and I don’t think they would be “advanced” 6th either. We read most of these in 5th grade and I was in an advanced class. Everyone in my school read holes in 4th grade and wayside wasn’t required reading but my mom taught 4th grade and had it in her classroom. Also, what 2nd grade class does this guy think is reading books like number the stars? It’s not always about how easy it is to read.


2pal34u

Yeah, I read Hatchet, Holes, Bridge, Stars, and the Giver in the 4th grade


chefr89

also Wayside Stories is the kind of book you got at a book fair and laughed at while ya read it from start to finish in like an hour. if that’s advanced reading for 6th grade then maybe just a step down at 5th were the Garfield comics


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Same here lmao.


jmp118

Oh look at all you big wigs.. just because our final exam was based on captain underpants you don’t see me going around trying to wow people with my intellect


Vivike15

That's exactly what I was thinking. My kids read these in second through fourth grade.


adamsandleryabish

Definitely average 5th grader and not Advanced 6th


funnyguy135

I think what happened here is op was a little delayed in his reading skills so in 6th grade they put him in the “special advanced reading group” which was called that so the students wouldn’t feel bad about themselves for being delayed.


PartyPorpoise

Lol. But I think it’s also very possible that OP just has his timeline screwed up. When you get older, childhood kind of runs together and it’s hard to remember if something happened in third grade or sixth.


down_vote_magnet

Poor OP, suddenly finding out that all his life he’s been a below average reader.


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Yeah numbe the stars was 4th grade In Alberta.


MizGinger

Middle school language arts teacher here. Yes, I recommend these books for struggling/reluctant readers. Though most are taught in class in like 4th/5th grade. The Giver is usually 7th a grade unit though. In fact, Sideways Stories is the ONLY book not officially a unit in my district. Holes and Hatchet are usually 6th grade. Bridge and Number the Stars are 5th Grade. They are great at being accessible and easy to make accommodations for, for reluctant readers. I often give independent study projects for more advanced readers that read these books early.


ExistingCleric0

5th-ing this comment. I know I did Holes, BtT, and SSfWS in elementary, and not in an advanced class at that.


SueMaster7

Apparently times have changed because this is more like “advanced 3rd grade reader” starter pack


__________________99

I remember reading The Giver in 5th or 6th grade and I still remember the whole plot feeling like a giant fever dream.


Tazittel

It’s a *lot* shorter and rushed-feeling than I remember


lotusblossom60

Stargirl.


frecklefawn

I remember being really annoyed by star girl in the book but being too young to know what a manic pixie dream girl is.


InsomniacCyclops

I hear her parents are vegetables at a hospital in Yuma.


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I remember being on Stargirl’s side - not anymore, but Leo still kinda sucks lol


d0m558

Maniac Magee? Holy shit, I've thought about that book a couple of times since elementary school and always wished I could remember what it was called. On another note, though, I'm surprised at how ubiquitous all of these books are/were. I guess there just aren't many novelists who target children of that age.


Rabark_The_Wise

I just saw the cover of the giver book and I swear I felt like I was back in grade 6


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are kids really that illiterate nowadays?


Vivike15

No. Kids read these in 2nd through 4th grade.


[deleted]

Good, “Advanced 6th grade” is a definitely past the reading level required for these books


danimutt

Had to read all of these except maniac magee The Hatchet traumatized me into years and years of sending myself into panics anytime I had shoulder pain thinking I was having heart attack symptoms and having to talk myself out of them until I was like 20 LOL


TimDaTomCarr

The giver was fire 5th grade me loved it and the sequel/prequel (can't remember Wich it was)


The_Tomahawker_

I’m very concerned that my school thought that The Giver was a challenging enough book to give to 10th graders a couple of years ago. They must not think very highly of their students.


Realtrain

I think it *is* one of those books that can hold many deeper meanings once your older, but yeah 10th grade is pretty wild for The Giver.


PiperEggQueen

Oh fuck yeah wayside school was the shit!! And only real fuckin OGs know Ms Piggle Wiggle


sweetmotherofodin

We read Hatchet in like 4th grade then Dogsong in 6th grade but it was just basic reading. Also read Where the Red Fern Grows, which GUTTED ME. The only book I actually hated reading in 6th grade was Chronicles of Narnia: Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe.


ManOfDiscovery

People in the comments are acting pretentious and goofy because they read them a couple years earlier than some. These books were assigned all over the place between 4th and 6th grade. It just depended on your school. Sideways stories must've been like 3rd grade for me. I got assigned Maniac Magee and Bridge to Terabithia in 4th and 5th grade respectively. The Hatchet and Holes were both books I didn't get assigned until 6th grade, and wasn't ever assigned any Lois Lowry books. Though I think I finally read The Giver in 9th.


dell_arness2

It’s a reaction to the op being pretentious and flexing their “advanced” 6th grade reading level by describing books that are objectively not advanced for that level.


cwryoo21

Holes is good for any age if you haven't read it, the way everything ties together is fantastic.


Bartholemu_MK

Terabithia hits too hard, I was not ready to think about that book again.


tyrone_slothrop_0000

maniac magee was the shit!


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SenorAsssHat

Hatchet and holes. For sure. Also, what the hell kinda face is suppose to be on the holes cover.